From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #132 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 6 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 132 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Leonard Cohen Cover Story [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Leonard Cohen Cover Story [Jerry Notaro ] Myrtle [Kate ] Re: Myrtle [Smurf ] Re: Myrtle [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Myrtle [Catherine McKay ] Re: Myrtle [Catherine McKay ] Covers Vol 76 [Rebecca Blundell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 09:37:14 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Leonard Cohen Cover Story http://www.coverville.com/ The latest podcast (and you don't need an ipod to listen & enjoy) is all about Leonard. Thought it might be worth a mention here as there is a strong Leonard connection to Joni. And not a coincidence that so many of the artists in the playlist have Joni ties: Peter Gabriel: Duet with Joni (My Secret Place) Allison Crowe: Has recorded River & A Case of You kd lang: Has recorded Jericho & A Case of You, was part of the TNT tribute singing Help Me Jennifer Warnes: Recorded Chelsea Morning Coverville shows are always great. Bob NP: Mich Gerber, "Haboob" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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"Old Stoneface," I sometimes call myself. It's not that I'm miserable in the least, or thinking critical thoughts. I just look that way. My dad's got the same scary face, and so did his mother ... and we like to laugh and have fun just as much as the next person! And maybe it's the same with Myrtle, who wouldn't be accustomed to sitting on stage in front of all those people and cameras unless she was lecturing, as her teaching experience would have been. Bill is probably a much more easygoing person. At any rate, no mother who isn't very proud of her daughter would keep all that school work as the girl grew up. No way. Also, a lot of Saskatchewan people can be kind of -- um -- not publicly expressive of their love for or pride in family members. My dad adored my mom and misses her terribly since she died last May, yet when I wrote the obit I was not to "overdo" it and yesterday when I called to consult him about putting a memoriam notice in the local paper, he advised me not to make it too flowery or "over the top." In other words, there are many who don't wear their hearts on their sleeves, and who think it unseemly to do so. My goodness, what will others think of them? Myrtle is one of those who care what the neighbours think, as we know from Joni's song Face Lift, and you can be sure she was being careful not to show too much pride at the Mendel. She wouldn't want those neighbours saying she thought she was any better than the next guy, you know, just because her daughter is a famous genius. Kate http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 11:01:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Myrtle Kate, I loved everything you said and I agree with you. I heard someone recently talking about how his face makes a natural frown. Someone asked him, "How are you today?" The sour-faced guy said, "I'm fine." And the other guy answered, "Well, tell your face!" --Smurf, who also has one of those faces . . . Kate wrote: Bob: > Meanwhile, Myrtle was sitting there with a sour look on her face, probably > wondering "who do these people think she is - Kitty Wells?" Oh, I don't know, Bob. Some people just have that kind of face. I'm one of them. "Old Stoneface," I sometimes call myself. It's not that I'm miserable in the least, or thinking critical thoughts. I just look that way. My dad's got the same scary face, and so did his mother ... and we like to laugh and have fun just as much as the next person! And maybe it's the same with Myrtle, who wouldn't be accustomed to sitting on stage in front of all those people and cameras unless she was lecturing, as her teaching experience would have been. Bill is probably a much more easygoing person. At any rate, no mother who isn't very proud of her daughter would keep all that school work as the girl grew up. No way. Also, a lot of Saskatchewan people can be kind of -- um -- not publicly expressive of their love for or pride in family members. My dad adored my mom and misses her terribly since she died last May, yet when I wrote the obit I was not to "overdo" it and yesterday when I called to consult him about putting a memoriam notice in the local paper, he advised me not to make it too flowery or "over the top." In other words, there are many who don't wear their hearts on their sleeves, and who think it unseemly to do so. My goodness, what will others think of them? Myrtle is one of those who care what the neighbours think, as we know from Joni's song Face Lift, and you can be sure she was being careful not to show too much pride at the Mendel. She wouldn't want those neighbours saying she thought she was any better than the next guy, you know, just because her daughter is a famous genius. Kate http://xoetc.antville.org - --------------------------------- Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 15:15:55 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Myrtle Very true, Kate, and a good point. I was just making a bum joke at poor Myrtle's expense. It's obvious that both of them (Bill & Myrtle) are pretty crazy about their Joan and proud of her too. After all, Myrtle saved all those things over the years, with no forethought that she would grow up to be the foremost composer of her times. Of course, I'd bet that most parents save that kind of memorabilia from their children. When my Mom died, the saddest thing in the world was going through all of her "treasures" to dispose of them, and finding all the crayon "I Love You Mommy" pictures, the "handprint" pictures, all the Mother's Day Cards, photos etc. that she had from us. She never cared for joo-wels but she had a big box of 'treasures'. Bob NP: The Beatles, "Revolution" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 15:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Myrtle Don't you just love it when a complete stranger passes judgement on you for that? I've had that happen to me too. (Stranger: Smile! Me: Feck off!) It happens to my daughter too and she's generally a happy person! Poor Myrtle! - --- Smurf wrote: > Kate, I loved everything you said and I agree with > you. > > I heard someone recently talking about how his > face makes a natural frown. Someone asked him, "How > are you today?" The sour-faced guy said, "I'm fine." > And the other guy answered, "Well, tell your face!" > > --Smurf, who also has one of those faces . . . > > Kate wrote: > Bob: > > > Meanwhile, Myrtle was sitting there with a sour > look on her face, probably > > wondering "who do these people think she is - > Kitty Wells?" > > Oh, I don't know, Bob. Some people just have that > kind of face. I'm one of > them. "Old Stoneface," I sometimes call myself. It's > not that I'm miserable > in the least, or thinking critical thoughts. I just > look that way. My dad's > got the same scary face, and so did his mother ... > and we like to laugh and > have fun just as much as the next person! And maybe > it's the same with > Myrtle, who wouldn't be accustomed to sitting on > stage in front of all those > people and cameras unless she was lecturing, as her > teaching experience > would have been. Bill is probably a much more > easygoing person. At any rate, > no mother who isn't very proud of her daughter would > keep all that school > work as the girl grew up. No way. > > Also, a lot of Saskatchewan people can be kind of -- > um -- not publicly > expressive of their love for or pride in family > members. My dad adored my > mom and misses her terribly since she died last May, > yet when I wrote the > obit I was not to "overdo" it and yesterday when I > called to consult him > about putting a memoriam notice in the local paper, > he advised me not to > make it too flowery or "over the top." In other > words, there are many who > don't wear their hearts on their sleeves, and who > think it unseemly to do > so. My goodness, what will others think of them? > Myrtle is one of those who > care what the neighbours think, as we know from > Joni's song Face Lift, and > you can be sure she was being careful not to show > too much pride at the > Mendel. She wouldn't want those neighbours saying > she thought she was any > better than the next guy, you know, just because her > daughter is a famous > genius. > > Kate > http://xoetc.antville.org > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 19:10:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Myrtle - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > kind of face.> > > Very true, Kate, and a good point. I was just making > a bum joke at poor > Myrtle's expense. It's obvious that both of them > (Bill & Myrtle) are > pretty crazy about their Joan and proud of her too. > After all, Myrtle > saved all those things over the years, with no > forethought that she would > grow up to be the foremost composer of her times. I sometimes wonder about that Joni-Myrtle relationship. Imagine being 60 and having both your parents still alive. I wonder how Myrtle deals with Joni's dissing her in songs? I wonder if some of what Joni says about her mother is tongue-in-cheek? I imagine they're both really proud of their daughter and never thought, back when Joan was still doing coffee house gigs, that she'd receive so many honours at home and elsewhere? > Of course, I'd bet that most parents save that kind > of memorabilia from > their children. When my Mom died, the saddest thing > in the world was going > through all of her "treasures" to dispose of them, > and finding all the > crayon "I Love You Mommy" pictures, the "handprint" > pictures, all the > Mother's Day Cards, photos etc. that she had from > us. She never cared for > joo-wels but she had a big box of 'treasures'. > My Mum went through all the stuff before she died. She had cancer, so she knew she wouldn't be around forever. She gave each of us kids a big bag full of stuff, including old report cards, drawings and cards we had made, baby pictures and so on. It's a great thing to do for your kids. I've got a load of stuff that my kids made for me too and, when they're old enough to appreciate it, I'm going to do the same for them. All of my report cards said, "Catherine should participate more in class" or "Catherine should speak up more in class." Handwriting was my worst subject in the early grades. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:02:34 +1200 From: Rebecca Blundell Subject: Covers Vol 76 Bob - thanks so much for putting those links up. So far I've only listened to the first lot - I've still got dial-up internet and the first file took 4 hours to download!! Anyway - some thoughts: 1. Inga Swearingen - Black Crow: Loved it. Interesting arrangement and well performed - I'll be listening to that one a few more times... 2. Vikki and James - Big Yellow Taxi: Average. I think the guitar and voice sound good, but there's nothing really unexpected or original here, and the "Shoo-bop-bops" are kind of flat. 4. Roger & Susanne - The Circle Game: Cringeworthy to say the least. It's really badly recorded, and I'm wondering if that ah-ah-ah-ah-ah... is actually Susanne's vocal or some kind of tech fault. Sounds sort of like the tremolo switch on the old electric organ I used to have. 5. Patrick Thompson - Woodstock: Initially I was interested by the colour of what is definitely an unusual voice - but grew to hate it pretty quick. I think the slow arrangement could work - it just needs to go somewhere, which this doesn't. 7. Mark Murphy - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat (live): This song really suits Murphy's style and voice. I like it. (incidentally, Murphy's not English - he was born in Syracuse NY, and spent the early part of his career in NYC, moving to London when vocal gigs started to dry up in the 60s. I think he's been back in the US since '72 though.) 8. The Swingin' Medallions - How Do You Stop: I like this one for its slightly different take on the song - seems to me to emphasise different lyrics, and I like it when a cover adds something new, rather than just tries to copy the original. 11. Michael Sagmeister & Britta Medeiros - Night Ride Home: Hey this is nice. Pretty much just a re-hash of Joni's vocal, but well-performed and recorded, and I like the guitar. 13. Yuki Murakami - Both Sides Now: Truly awful. As Ron pointed out - some nice guitar, but that vocal sent shivers down my spine. IMO if you're going to sing in a language that's not your own - learn how to pronounce the words first. 14. Mixed Company - Big Yellow Taxi: The arrangement for this song doesn't really work for me - seems a little slick for the lyric - however, I really like the sound of the group. 19. Moishe Lichtfuss & The A-Signifying Semiotics - People's Parties: The lead singer's nasal voice and tuning problems really put me off - although I think the arrangement's quite good - couldn't listen to that voice though! Thanks again Bob for putting those songs together - once I've coaxed my PC into downloading the rest, I'll let you know what I think. Rebecca ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #132 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)