From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #121 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 25 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 121 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: joni mention in ny times editorial section today ["Jamie's Box of Pai] Re: joni mention in ny times editorial section today [J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: joni mention in ny times editorial section today Hi Patrick, Yes, the Joni lifts from Shakespeare discussion has been a really interesting one on the list previously... I think Joni quotes WtS mainly because Myrtle quoted Shakespeare when she was teaching her at home, while other mothers quoted the Bible... Other notable liftings are I am as constant as the Northern Star (Julius Caesar) 'A Case of You' Romeo, Romeo (Romeo and Juliet) (Talk to Me) Blood, blood blood (Othello) (Dog Eat Dog) ok, so the last one isn't true, but its a great line from Shakespeare ;o) Jamie Zoob On 23/04/06, patrick leader wrote: > there was an editorial in the sunday 'week in review' section in the new > york times, about shakespeare, with a joni mention: > > "Or that his words would inspire their own honoring thefts: Joni Mitchell > took a glittering simile of his for "That Song About the Midway"; ..." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/opinion/23moore.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&page > wanted=all > > so i googled to find the original reference and found a direct comparison... > > "It seems she hangs upon the cheek of night > Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear; > Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear! > > --Romeo and Juliet, I, v, 49 > > This would seem to be the source for a line in the Joni Mitchell > song called "That Song about the Midway": > > I met you on the midway at a fair last year > And you stood out like a ruby in a black man's ear" > > now i'm thinking i'm going to write the times about 'talk to me' in which > joni makes fun of people who quote shakespeare... > > patrick > > np - underworld, 'jal to tokyo' > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: joni mention in ny times editorial section today Hey, Patrick. Thanks for pointing out the Joni editorial reference. I just reread the lyrics to Talk to Me. Can you explain where/how you draw the conclusion that Joni is making fun of people who quote Shakespeare? J patrick leader wrote: there was an editorial in the sunday 'week in review' section in the new york times, about shakespeare, with a joni mention: "Or that his words would inspire their own honoring thefts: Joni Mitchell took a glittering simile of his for "That Song About the Midway"; ..." http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/opinion/23moore.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&page wanted=all so i googled to find the original reference and found a direct comparison... "It seems she hangs upon the cheek of night Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear; Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear! - --Romeo and Juliet, I, v, 49 This would seem to be the source for a line in the Joni Mitchell song called "That Song about the Midway": I met you on the midway at a fair last year And you stood out like a ruby in a black man's ear" now i'm thinking i'm going to write the times about 'talk to me' in which joni makes fun of people who quote shakespeare... patrick np - underworld, 'jal to tokyo' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:28:53 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Joni's speech at the Commonwealth Club, April 22, 2005 The transcript of Joni's talk at "An Earth Day Celebration with Joni Mitchell" at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco on April 22, 2005 is now online. Also included there is the transcript of the question and answer period after the talk. Many thanks to Andrew Lawton (Chair, Environment and Natural Resources) of Commonwealth for providing us with this important transcript. http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/05/05-04mitchell-intro.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:08:19 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: joni mention in ny times editorial section today hey there j. i guess i think she's making fun of herself, or of the character she's singing. i mean, she takes so many tones trying to get this guy to talk to her. first she's vulgar, trying to be 'one of the guys' drinking too much and pissing in the parking lot. then she talks about how cultured and well-read she is, able to talk about martha or bergman. and when she starts quoting shakespeare, one quote is not enough. this chick (not joni, but the girl in the song) is so insecure, and the pompousness is but a symptom. and i do think joni's sticking a gentle pin in the balloon of her own pretentiousness. with very good humor. 'talk to me' is one of my favorite joni songs, the neediness i identify with, but i love that she laughs at herself and all of us in our neediness, and makes us laugh too. patrick np - silence - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of J Kendel Johnson Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:14 PM To: jonilist Subject: Re: joni mention in ny times editorial section today Hey, Patrick. Thanks for pointing out the Joni editorial reference. I just reread the lyrics to Talk to Me. Can you explain where/how you draw the conclusion that Joni is making fun of people who quote Shakespeare? J patrick leader wrote: there was an editorial in the sunday 'week in review' section in the new york times, about shakespeare, with a joni mention: "Or that his words would inspire their own honoring thefts: Joni Mitchell took a glittering simile of his for "That Song About the Midway"; ..." http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/opinion/23moore.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&page wanted=all so i googled to find the original reference and found a direct comparison... "It seems she hangs upon the cheek of night Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear; Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear! - --Romeo and Juliet, I, v, 49 This would seem to be the source for a line in the Joni Mitchell song called "That Song about the Midway": I met you on the midway at a fair last year And you stood out like a ruby in a black man's ear" now i'm thinking i'm going to write the times about 'talk to me' in which joni makes fun of people who quote shakespeare... patrick np - underworld, 'jal to tokyo' ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #121 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)