From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #112 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 16 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 112 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: That Remixes Compilation [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: That Remixes Compilation [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Fallen Angels ["Garret" ] Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - [Bob Muller ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #111 [StDoherty@aol.com] JM.com ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - [Em ] Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - [Bob Muller ] Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - [Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: That Remixes Compilation Hi Nuri. I am the one who is putting together the remixes compilation but, it is still incomplete. I haven't received any contributions for some time. There are two contributions from list members so far. I will announce when the remix collection is ready for distribution. In the meantime, if anyone has any remixes, extended versions, mash-ups or their own mixes of Joni's songs, please write to me off list. Mark in Sydney NP Cold and The Crackle - Not Drowning, Waving ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: That Remixes Compilation Thanks, Mark. I'll be waiting then. Good luck with your mission! Nuri Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: Hi Nuri. I am the one who is putting together the remixes compilation but, it is still incomplete. I haven't received any contributions for some time. There are two contributions from list members so far. I will announce when the remix collection is ready for distribution. In the meantime, if anyone has any remixes, extended versions, mash-ups or their own mixes of Joni's songs, please write to me off list. Mark in Sydney NP Cold and The Crackle - Not Drowning, Waving - --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:38:12 +0100 (BST) From: "Garret" Subject: Re: Fallen Angels Hey Em, I think you have summed it up perfectly (i'll let you do all the work and just accept, accept, accept...) I tend not to pick apart songs and think about specific phrases; i am usually struck by a general feeling. But his makes sense as sometimes i just don't hear teh lyrics to songs at all which can lead to all sorts of hilarity when i atempt to sing a song i think i know very well, lol:-) Then i log on and read descriptions that seem spot-on, succinct, cogent. mmmm What am i trying to say? Basically, i had never really thought about the song C&S specifically but what you said fits with my general impression of hte song and the album generally and now i feel i understand if just a little bit more thanks to you. GARRET NP- Janet/Q-tip/Joni, Got 'Til It's Gone Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Fallen Angels Los Angeles, the name of the city, means "the angels" in Spanish. To me a fallen angel would be a star thats come to ruin. Someone who has seen glory, but that glory is now way diminshed or tarnished or hech, just faded away. So the angels are human, and are no longer up in the lofty places. thats my take! Em ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:04:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - Happy weekend to everybody, hope the skies are as blue everywhere as they are here in SC. When I posted Covers 75 earlier this month, I mentioned that I'd have a bonus later on, and since we're at the Ides of April, I thought I'd go ahead and throw this out there for those who are interested. It's the very first Volume of Joni Covers, back when I started this silly project. Here's the link: http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F618F5F50B2CCF0A I never imagined it would go where it has, what a trip. The tracklist is as follows: 1. Fairport Convention - Eastern Rain 2. Fairport Convention - Marcie 3. Fairport Convention - Chelsea Morning 4. Fairport Convention - I Don't Know Where I Stand 5. Fairport Convention - Night In The City 6. Fairport Convention - Woodstock (live) 7. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (studio) 8. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (live) 9. Tim Curry - Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire 10. Caroline Lavelle - A Case of You 11. Cleo Laine - Both Sides Now 12. Cassandra Wilson - Black Crow 13. Betty Buckley - River 14. Betty Buckley - A Case of You 15. Bonnie Raitt - That Song About The Midway 16. Holly Cole - River 17. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Woodstock (alternate version) 18. Phoebe Snow - A Case of You If you guys dig the idea, I'll continue offering a retro-volume every month. According to the yousendit website, they've upgraded to allow more downloads from a single link. If you aren't able to get it and want it, please let me know. Bob NP: Fairport Convention, "Both Sides Now" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:51:20 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - hi >>>bob wrote that would be great - for lazy people like me who were too lazy to order by mail :-) thanks bob ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:14:38 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #111 In a message dated 04/15/2006 3:10:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 02:08:47 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Dog Eat Dog... Redux I've been spending a fair amount of time in the digest archives recently and ran across a post I wrote almost 6 years ago about "Dog Eat Dog". I know it's not exactly a crowd-pleaser in this group but it's an album I really came to appreciate and love. I felt that, perhaps, it might be appropriate to repost this for some of the newer list-members. Those who can't abide DED should either delete here or read with an open mind. Warmly, Cassy I've always been a fan of DED too .. but probably for different reasons. I enjoyed the music - though granted now it does sound more dated than other Joni recordings. I loved the politics of it. At that time I think we all needed some reminding of things and the contrast between the right/left, have/have nots, pious/partiers. It was good material. A reoccuring theme in many of the posts is that whole duality thing that Joni poses - this album was the culmination of that on many levels - from the obvious to the subtle. I think she was trying to be hip, especially to get her message out. But she was way smarter than she was hip. The masses didn't take to it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:57:04 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: JM.com The boss has been quietly putting new additions to the News section, signing each with a modest (li). If you haven't read the News since the transition, you're find some cool stuff. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 14:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - Bob! thank you very much for doing that! what a wonderful gift... :) Em - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Happy weekend to everybody, hope the skies are as > blue everywhere as they are here in SC. When I > posted Covers 75 earlier this month, I mentioned > that I'd have a bonus later on, and since we're > at the Ides of April, I thought I'd go ahead and > throw this out there for those who are > interested. > > It's the very first Volume of Joni Covers, back > when I started this silly project. Here's the > link: > > http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F618F5F50B2CCF0A > > I never imagined it would go where it has, what a > trip. The tracklist is as follows: > > 1. Fairport Convention - Eastern Rain > 2. Fairport Convention - Marcie > 3. Fairport Convention - Chelsea Morning > 4. Fairport Convention - I Don't Know Where I > Stand > 5. Fairport Convention - Night In The City > 6. Fairport Convention - Woodstock (live) > 7. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (studio) > 8. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (live) > 9. Tim Curry - Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire > 10. Caroline Lavelle - A Case of You > 11. Cleo Laine - Both Sides Now > 12. Cassandra Wilson - Black Crow > 13. Betty Buckley - River > 14. Betty Buckley - A Case of You > 15. Bonnie Raitt - That Song About The Midway > 16. Holly Cole - River > 17. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Woodstock > (alternate version) > 18. Phoebe Snow - A Case of You > > If you guys dig the idea, I'll continue offering > a retro-volume every month. According to the > yousendit website, they've upgraded to allow more > downloads from a single link. If you aren't able > to get it and want it, please let me know. > > Bob > > NP: Fairport Convention, "Both Sides Now" > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 15:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - Hey, you're welcome Em...I'll fill that ipod up with Joni covers if you give me half a chance. Stay tuned, more coming. Like the song says (though it wasn't originally written about Joni covers): "hide 'em under a bushel? No! I'm gonna let 'em shine!" Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Saving All My Love For You" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:40:05 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: joni healthy person Nuri wrote: >I honestly think that an album like TI was made to make you feel very >uncomfortable with yourself >and the world around you. The >only word i can think of to describe this is vomit, meaning that Joni was >vomitting her anger and >bitterness in order to release >herself, but what happened is that she's really poisoning minds in this >album, and i'll never forget >how sick i felt the day i heard >it for the first time. It was like a snake bit me. . . . me now: Purging is a good thing. . . it may purging. . and it is also letting us look in the mirror. . like, do we care? does anybody really care? As I re-read Joni's lyrics on Turbulent Indigo. . I realize that this is ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT HER. . she is helping us to look at these issues for the first time, or for some who have already seen them up close. . to not forget them. . to feel them. . to really feel them. . (remember she is a scorpio) they are really important issues . . "let me speak, let me spit out my bitterness. . ." "do you have eyes? can you see how mankind sees? why do you starve the faithful why do you crucify the saints. . everybody looks so ill at ease so distrustful so displeased. . . I see a borderline strung tight strung tense prickling with pretense a borderline most girls come here pregnant some by their own fathers Bridget got that belly by her parish priest consealed behind their rosaries. . one day I am going to die here too and they'll plant me in the dirt. . like some lame bulb that never blooms come any spring last chance lost six hundred thousand doctors are putting on rubber gloves and they're poking at the miseries made of love sex kills just the strong doing what thy can and the weak doing what they must and the gas leaks and the oil spills doctors' pills give you brand new ills. . this massive mess we're in. . I bleed - for your perversity these red words that make a stain" She made me love her even more for all of this. Did she think this would make her popular. . or Did she think that these stories should be told? Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:58:23 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - This is great, Bob. Thanks so much. It's great for those of us who haven't been continuous members since the beginning. Mark in Sydney. NP Eastern Rain - Fairport Convention On 16/04/2006, at 12:04 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Happy weekend to everybody, hope the skies are as > blue everywhere as they are here in SC. When I > posted Covers 75 earlier this month, I mentioned > that I'd have a bonus later on, and since we're > at the Ides of April, I thought I'd go ahead and > throw this out there for those who are > interested. > > It's the very first Volume of Joni Covers, back > when I started this silly project. Here's the > link: > > http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php? > action=download&ufid=F618F5F50B2CCF0A > > I never imagined it would go where it has, what a > trip. The tracklist is as follows: > > 1. Fairport Convention - Eastern Rain > 2. Fairport Convention - Marcie > 3. Fairport Convention - Chelsea Morning > 4. Fairport Convention - I Don't Know Where I > Stand > 5. Fairport Convention - Night In The City > 6. Fairport Convention - Woodstock (live) > 7. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (studio) > 8. Fairport Convention - Both Sides Now (live) > 9. Tim Curry - Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire > 10. Caroline Lavelle - A Case of You > 11. Cleo Laine - Both Sides Now > 12. Cassandra Wilson - Black Crow > 13. Betty Buckley - River > 14. Betty Buckley - A Case of You > 15. Bonnie Raitt - That Song About The Midway > 16. Holly Cole - River > 17. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Woodstock > (alternate version) > 18. Phoebe Snow - A Case of You > > If you guys dig the idea, I'll continue offering > a retro-volume every month. According to the > yousendit website, they've upgraded to allow more > downloads from a single link. If you aren't able > to get it and want it, please let me know. > > Bob > > NP: Fairport Convention, "Both Sides Now" > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - That's kinda what I was figuring, Mark...why punish you for not knowing that THIS was the coolest internet cafe back in '99? Plus, with the technology enhancements being what they are now, it just seems to make sense. And I'll add that the original spark for the project was from one of your countrymen in Sydney, the honorable John Low, my wombattish friend. Bob NP: Built To Spill, "Traces" (best rock album of the year thus far, at least what I've heard) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:47:11 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Covers, Volume 1 - Where it all began - On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Bob Muller wrote: > That's kinda what I was figuring, Mark...why > punish you for not knowing that THIS was the > coolest internet cafe back in '99? Plus, with the > technology enhancements being what they are now, > it just seems to make sense. That plus it's a great track list. I don't necessarily want every Joni cover, but the moment I saw the contents I started the download. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 23:29:17 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: Re: Is Joni a Healthy person Nuriel Tobias wrote: I honestly think that an album like TI was made to make you feel very uncomfortable with yourself and the world around you. The only word i can think of to discribe this is vomit, meaning that Joni was vomitting her anger and bitterness in order to release herself, but what happened is that she's really poisoning minds in this album, and i'll never forget how sick i felt the day i heard it for the first time. It was like a snake bit me. Worse than that, i think it has come to a point where i truely feel that Joni is enjoying this. ------------------------- I'm sorry, but this is just insane. Yes, Joni expresses anger and bitterness in her art ... artists do that. Especially when there's so much in the world to be angry and bitter about. And art often makes its audience uncomfortable, nothing wrong with that. People on both sides of artistic relationship often find this cathartic, but some don't, and that's OK, too. You felt sick upon hearing TI for the first time ... that's your honest reaction, no one can argue with that. But to extrapolate that Joni is "poisoning minds" and, worse, that she "is enjoying this" is just completely beyond the pale. Can you imagine living a life as a sincere, committed artist, and somewhere out there among your audience there's someone who is convinced that you're intentionally hurting them and indulging in Schadenfreude over their discomfort? I mean, really ... - Fred Simon ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #112 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)