From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #110 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, April 14 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 110 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers [ReckersL@ebrd.com] Ruth Paz Foundation Fundraiser [Michael Paz ] Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers [Gertus@aol.com] Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers [Lucy Hone ] Joni and the Sun [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Joni and the Sun [Em ] Re: Joni and the Sun [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Henry Lewy ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Joni and the Sun [Em ] Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni and the Sun/ Is Joni a Healthy Person [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Henry Lewy ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Henry Lewy ["Sherelle Smith" ] Anti-war songs [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Is Joni a Healthy person ["Cassy" ] Re: Joni and the Sun/ Is Joni a Healthy Person [djp ] Anti-war songs ["Richard Flynn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:06:28 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: RE: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers No, very sorry, but I couldn't make the date to my regret, as I told Jamie. I hope to read Jamie's review and wish all those who go a great time. Lieve in London (but off to Belgium this weekend) - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 April 2006 00:14 To: Jamie's Box of Paints; Joni JMDL Cc: Lieve Reckers; Lucy Hone; Les Ross; Jacky Walls Subject: Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers Jamie - Lieve had said she was going, is that still the case? What about Lucy, Les, Jacky? Wish *I* was going. Bob NP: Joni, "Conversation" - --- Jamie's Box of Paints wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone else was going > to the Ian Shaw concert on > Saturday at the Bloomsbury Theatre (in > Bloomsbury)? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com EBRD SECURITY NOTICE This email has been virus scanned ______________________________________________________________ This message may contain privileged information. If you have received this message by mistake, please keep it confidential and return it to the sender. Although we have taken steps to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, the EBRD accepts no liability for any loss or damage caused by computer viruses and would advise you to carry out your own virus checks. The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 07:36:15 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Ruth Paz Foundation Fundraiser Hi Everybody- This email is to let you know about a great fundraiser being held in Miami, Florida to help the Ruth Paz Foundation with our Burn Clinic in Honduras. Maria Celeste Arrara's is hosting a Rock and Roll Cocktail at her residence in Miami on Friday May 5th, 2006 from 8pm-12pm. Contribution is $300 per person. Attire is for a Rock Concert. She is a Latin TV star who is organizing this event to help us. There will be lots of celebs and there will be auctions of memorabilia etc. to raise more money. My sister and I are both planning on attending. It is possible I will not be able to go because of my video shoot schedule at Jazz Fest but I am trying to work that out. I will let you know soon as I am having a meeting with the producers today. If any of you party animals in Florida want to go please write me with your address privately and I will send you an invitation with all the details. Have a great day! Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:43:37 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers No, I can't make it either. We have a house full as it's Easter. I must say it's nice to get all these JMDL e-mails though. It's time we all met up again. "Who knows where the time goes?" Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:15:15 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers Ok, it's looks like that it's just gonna be Jamie 'On His Own' Zubairi at this gig.... Oh, and Ian Shaw fans.... ;-) Jamie Zoob On 13/04/06, Gertus@aol.com wrote: > > No, I can't make it either. We have a house full as it's Easter. > I must say it's nice to get all these JMDL e-mails though. It's time we all > met up again. "Who knows where the time goes?" > > Jacky - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Joni, Life, Death All these sad events made me think...Joni is really a very vivid songwriter...In the sense that she's writing about LIFE and LIVING so well...Not at all morbid...When i was younger listening to her made me feel like i'll live forever...As if she's worked out death in her songs...Something very eternal in her work...Maybe that's why i feel it's so very important that she would continue...And so strange that she chose to stop...If she releases another album, i'm sure it would be one of her most amazing...Saying goes that she wrote 3 new songs, and i'd kill to find out what they're about...Cause she's getting older and yet so very much alive... Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2"/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:56:45 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers Ah seeing the end of your mail there Jacky, who knows indeed..where does it go?.... and spookily synchronously I was listening to Sandy Denny asking that question earlier on in the car...... WE also have a houseload this Easter... I like Easter... Lucy Gertus@aol.com wrote: > No, I can't make it either. We have a house full as it's Easter. > I must say it's nice to get all these JMDL e-mails though. It's time > we all met up again. "Who knows where the time goes?" > > Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:48:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Joni and the Sun I've just realized i never saw Joni wearing sunglasses...And for such a sun-and-summer-loving woman like her, i don't remember ever seeing her tanned, at least not during recent years...on the other hand, it seems to me she's always wearing hats to hide herself from the sun, and looks pretty pale...Skin white or skin golden? What do you think? Love, Nuri p.s. - Do you think she's ever been to a nudist beach?:) - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:21:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > p.s. - Do you think she's ever been to a nudist beach?:) on the rocks in FTR cover? People are being warned these days not to get too much sun. Where in the 60's and 70's and 80's people would lay out alot and get dark, now I see people with sun bonnets and straw hats and wearing long sleeve gauzy things, to keep the sun off. Its just healthier really, even tho pasty white doesn't *look* as nice as tan, I guess it is healthier. Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun Hi Em Sorry to bother you with this question - but do you really consider Joni as a healthy person?... Em wrote: People are being warned these days not to get too much sun. Where in the 60's and 70's and 80's people would lay out alot and get dark, now I see people with sun bonnets and straw hats and wearing long sleeve gauzy things, to keep the sun off. Its just healthier really, even tho pasty white doesn't *look* as nice as tan, I guess it is healthier. Em - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:55:14 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Henry Lewy Mark, I had the opportunity to see "Woman of Heart and Mind" about a month ago and there was a gentleman who worked with her who could understand her musical idiosyncricies (sp?) when no one else could. I thought it was wonderful. Is this the gentleman who passed away? Sherelle Mark wrote: I don't think this is njc. Joni must be having a hard time right now. First Don Alias and then Henry. Two people who surely had significant places in her life and in her art. It's hard when good friends pass away and to lose two so close together has to be very sad for Joni. My thoughts are with her and all of those these two people touched. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun Hi Nuri, well not as far as the smoking. But aside from that, maybe she is healthy. I really don't know. She's not fat. So that health hazard isn't there. I just do not know. I hope so. I think of her entire "thrust" in life as healthy. Em - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Hi Em > > Sorry to bother you with this question - but do you really consider > Joni as a healthy person?... > > > > Em wrote: > People are being warned these days not to get too much sun. Where > in > the 60's and 70's and 80's people would lay out alot and get dark, > now > I see people with sun bonnets and straw hats and wearing long sleeve > gauzy things, to keep the sun off. Its just healthier really, even > tho > pasty white doesn't *look* as nice as tan, I guess it is healthier. > Em > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Ian Shaw UK jimdlers Well, look on the bright side, Jamie - you can embellish all you want, and even declare that Joni was there, and who could dispute it? Enjoy, and I look forward to reading your report. Bob NP: Roine Stolt, "Dog With A Million Bones" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun/ Is Joni a Healthy Person Yes, Em, it's hard to tell, i know what you mean. I must say that a moto like "all i want to do right now is find another lover" (and that is a Joni basic, imho) is very unhealthy. I think that happiness IS health, and Joni's wealth, isn't, after all, love. Love or money? I think most of us know the answer to that one. The fact that Joni, who wrote so much about love and maybe helped us all in finding it, winded up without a man by her side, is worse than her smoking. I think that the lack of man's love for life, is the "source" to all her bitterness towards so many things. But that's just me, and i really do not want to upset anyone who believes she's happier than ever. I for one don't buy that. Let me know what you think... Love, Nuri Em wrote: Hi Nuri, well not as far as the smoking. But aside from that, maybe she is healthy. I really don't know. She's not fat. So that health hazard isn't there. I just do not know. I hope so. I think of her entire "thrust" in life as healthy. Em - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Hi Em > > Sorry to bother you with this question - but do you really consider > Joni as a healthy person?... > > > > Em wrote: > People are being warned these days not to get too much sun. Where > in > the 60's and 70's and 80's people would lay out alot and get dark, > now > I see people with sun bonnets and straw hats and wearing long sleeve > gauzy things, to keep the sun off. Its just healthier really, even > tho > pasty white doesn't *look* as nice as tan, I guess it is healthier. > Em > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun/ Is Joni a Healthy Person djp@grandecom.net wrote: "Oh, please. She's bitter because she's not getting laid?" Oh please yourself, whoever you are. I was talking about love, not sex. Some of us can still tell the difference between this and that and thank God for that. But stepping down to your level, not that it pleases me much, i'd have to say that "not getting laid", as you call it, is not that sweet or for that matter healthy either. "She seems to be surrounded by loving friends and family, seems pretty content with life outside of her dealings with the music business. Her exes love her dearly. This is perhaps, after all these years, more satisfying to her than heterosexual monogamous coupling." Like i said before, i don't buy that. Nothing and no one can replace the true love of a man/woman in one's life. Take some time to read the lyrics for Last Chance Lost and you'll see what i mean. "djp,reminded of a bumper sticker from the 70's: A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle." Strangely enough, i'm reminded by "If i didn't have love i'd be nothing", so you can stick that revolting bumper wherever you feel like... Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2"/min or less. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Is Joni a Healthy person One thing more... Whenever i listen to Joni's albums, there's always a strange feeling of some "slight disease" taking over...If being happy is what health's all about, then the amounts of sadness pouring from so many songs is a sign of a very troubled and unhealthy mind. I know, i know, this is VERY argueable, but sometimes her songs are really overloaded with a strange sicky mood. TTT is a fine example for an album that was made to hurt it's listenr badly, but again, that's just me and my thoughts. Nuri - --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:19:20 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Henry Lewy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Henry Lewy > Mark, I had the opportunity to see "Woman of Heart and Mind" about a month > ago and there was a gentleman who worked with her who could understand her > musical idiosyncricies (sp?) when no one else could. I thought it was > wonderful. Is this the gentleman who passed away? Hi Sherelle, I haven't watched 'Woman of Heart and Mind' in a long time but I would imagine that it was him. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:23:20 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Henry Lewy Thanks Mark, I think you are right. I was very touched by that musical relationship. Sherelle >From: "Mark Scott" >To: "Sherelle Smith" , >Subject: Re: Henry Lewy >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:19:20 -0700 > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherelle Smith" > >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:55 PM >Subject: Re: Henry Lewy > > >>Mark, I had the opportunity to see "Woman of Heart and Mind" about a month >>ago and there was a gentleman who worked with her who could understand her >>musical idiosyncricies (sp?) when no one else could. I thought it was >>wonderful. Is this the gentleman who passed away? > >Hi Sherelle, > >I haven't watched 'Woman of Heart and Mind' in a long time but I would >imagine that it was him. > >Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:33:56 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Anti-war songs Hi Bruce. I would like to suggest The Beat of Black Wings. It is the best personalisation of war I have heard in a song. Mark in Sydney NP Funkytown -Lipps Inc (How gay is that?!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:33:24 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Is Joni a Healthy person I disagree. I don't believe that Joni made any of her music to hurt it's listener badly. If one can relate to where her head is when that piece or those pieces were written then her ability to move us to huge emotion is masterful and I'm sure she intended to move us by making us think and feel strongly. There have been times Joni sang my life. At those times her music hurt me... not because the music *actually* hurt me but because the lyrics stirred the memory of a hurt in my own life or she was, with her music, in exactly the same place I was and my soul was moved by her ability to put into such succinct and beautiful words the way I felt. I can't count the times I've cried listening to Joni music. For me, when I play her music she creates an atmosphere where I feel safe to let myself feel and she moves me like no other songwriter ever has. Regarding Joni's health, mental or physical, I can only send positive energy in her general direction, light a white candle and hope tonight she can feel us there. Speculating is not really somewhere I want to go though I can hope she's able to bring her musical talents to us for a long time to come. Warmly, Cassy NP: Distant Lover - Marvin Gaye From: "Nuriel Tobias" <<< I know, i know, this is VERY argueable, but sometimes her songs are really overloaded with a strange sicky mood. TTT is a fine example for an album that was made to hurt it's listenr badly, but again, that's just me and my thoughts. >>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:42:39 -0500 From: djp Subject: Re: Joni and the Sun/ Is Joni a Healthy Person At 07:24 PM 4/13/2006, Nuriel Tobias wrote: >"djp,reminded of a bumper sticker from the 70's: A woman without a man is >like a fish >without a bicycle." > > Strangely enough, i'm reminded by "If i didn't have love i'd be > nothing", so you can stick that revolting bumper wherever you feel like... I seem to have hit a nerve. I was suggesting, and I'll suggest again, that she has *plenty* of love in her life, even without a husband. And she seems content, except as regards her treatment by the music industry. Also, I'm not sure what you meant when you referred to me as "whoever you are." I'm a member of this list. If that's not enough, you can look up my gallery listing on jonimitchell.com. If that's not enough, you can keep engaging with me and get to know me. djp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:35:55 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Anti-war songs You know, when it came out, "The Fiddle and the Drum" was very powerful to me. And it's just as powerful now--I don't listen to Clouds all that often, but a capella anti-war songs like "Fiddle" or Steve Goodman's "Ballad of Penny Evans," once memorized, are amazingly portable. I carry them with me in the same way I carry the great Emily Dickinson poem "After great pain, a Formal Feeling comes--," which has sustained me in times of grief. Of course there's also room for the rambunctious, "And it's a one, two, three,/ What are we fighting for? / Don't ask me I don't give a damn / Next stop is ol' Iran" 'night all! Richartd - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mark-Leon Thorne Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:34 PM To: brucejuli@homeinternet.net Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Anti-war songs Hi Bruce. I would like to suggest The Beat of Black Wings. It is the best personalisation of war I have heard in a song. Mark in Sydney NP Funkytown -Lipps Inc (How gay is that?!) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #110 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)