From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #104 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 9 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 104 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC [Mark-Leon Thorne ] WWJD? [frednow@aol.com] Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item [Bob Muller ] Re: WWJD? [Catherine McKay ] Re: Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ["mike pritchard" ] re: Joni guitar licks ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ["Mark Scott" ] Re: WWJD? ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? ["Lori Fye" ] joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news ["patrick ] Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news [Bob M] Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news [J Ken] Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news [Nuri] Any info. of the "upcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album"? ["Richard Flynn] Re: Any info. of the "upcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album"? [Bob Muller] ok this is weird [Em ] Re: Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC [Catherine McKay ] Joni questions/commands ["Marianne Rizzo" ] recording, bob ["Marianne Rizzo" ] tags ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Joni tribute podcast ["Marianne Rizzo" ] WWJD? [Victor Johnson ] Joni musings via Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ["Kate Bennett" ] "The Essential Herbie Hancock", JC? ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: ok this is weird [Doug ] counting crows ["Marianne Rizzo" ] mueller and chainsaw ["Marianne Rizzo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:34:19 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC Hi gang! In case your curious about some of the artists I listed in my top 20 singer/songwriters, I thought I'd give you all a taste. Here's a track from Katie Noonan. She is classically trained but, made her name in Australia with the band, george. The single, Special Ones was a huge hit here. This track is from her other project band, Elixir. The song is Before You Sleep. As far as I know, she has not yet recorded a Joni cover but I am hoping one day she will. Her style is a mix of folk/rock/jazz. Her voice would suit several Joni songs. Here is the link http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx? id=0OFO0NQ84D5Y0PVO3IE8JQBD1 Enjoy. Mark in Sydney NP Breath of Grace - Elixir. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 04:00:26 -0400 From: frednow@aol.com Subject: WWJD? "Lori Fye" wrote: > Maybe then at least this might become a music discussion list again. As one of the most guilty of NOT discussing much music here lately, let me also remind everyone that the "only Joni" options exist. Lori, always instigating (and WWJD? I think she would approve!) ------------------------ This is exactly what comes to mind when I read complaints on the list about the njc content. What Would Joni Do? Would she: 1. Want people to talk exclusively about her music? or would she: 2. Want people to talk about their anger about how scary fucked up the shit in the world has gotten these days, by which I mostly mean BushCo, Iraq, burgeoning fascist theocracy, etc.? I think number 2. But maybe that's just me. - Fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? Lori Fye wrote: What do the "only Joni" people think of receiving email that may not be Joni-related but is still music related? Hi Lori, There's so much music going on in our friends minds and in the world that maybe recieving email about non Joni-related music would be a bit too much, and maybe once it's started it'll be hard to get back to the main point which is after all Joni. And there's still so much to talk and share about her... On the other hand, once you see the subject of an email and that it's not JC you may simply choose not to read it, right? So i'd say - anything, as long as it's not politics. Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 01:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: re: Joni guitar licks My choice is the guitar on Love Puts On a New Face. Magical. Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:27:02 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item >>Bob, big time WTRF fan<< And there was me telling everyone that Muller never let me down yet... ;-) mike, not a WTRF fan, in barcelona np bill evans trio: live in rome 1979 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 04:45:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item > And there was me telling everyone that Muller > never let me down yet... ;-) Sorry to let you down, amigo - it happens to everyone, you just hung in there longer than most. I guess that part of the appeal of WTRF for me was that I had moved to Greenville from Raleigh about a year prior, hadn't made any real friends, my job was so-so, the music scene here was dead and so was the radio, and I felt very stranger-in-a-strange-land-ish. WTRF put a friendly and familiar voice back in my life, and for the most part she was joyful, and I found the sonics to be a nice combination of infectious rock rhythms and contemplative jazz-oriented melodies. I listened to it a lot. Bob NP: Emmylou Harris, "Hour of Gold" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 07:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: WWJD? - --- frednow@aol.com wrote: > What Would Joni Do? > > Would she: > > 1. Want people to talk exclusively about her music? > > or would she: > > 2. Want people to talk about their anger about how > scary fucked up the > shit in the world has gotten these days, by which I > mostly mean BushCo, > Iraq, burgeoning fascist theocracy, etc.? > > I think number 2. But maybe that's just me. > I think so too. Joni seems prepared to talk about anything. I find it hard to talk about Joni's music and lyrics without getting into discussions about just about anything, from the sublime to the ridiculous. But I suppose some people don't have the time, so it's all good. Talk To Me by Joni Mitchell There was a moon and a street lamp I didn't know I drank such a lot Till I pissed a tequila anaconda The full length of the parking lot! Oh I talk too loose Again I talk too open and free I pay a high price for my open talking Like you do for your silent mystery Come and talk to me Please talk to me Talk to me talk to me Mr. Mystery We could talk about Martha We could talk about landscapes I'm not above gossip But I'll sit on a secret where honor is at stake Or we could talk about power About Jesus and Hitler and Howard Hughes Or Charlie Chaplin's movies Or Bergman's nordic blues Please just talk to me Any old theme you choose Just come and talk to me Mr. Mystery talk to me You could talk like a fool I'd listen You could talk like a sage Anyway the best of my mind All goes down on the strings and the page That mind picks up all these pictures It still gets my feet up to dance Even though it's covered with keyloids From the "slings and arrows of outrageous romance" I stole that from Willy the Shake You know - "Neither a borrower nor a lender be" Romeo Romeo talk to me Is your silence that golden? Are you comfortable in it? Is it the key to your freedom Or is it the bars on your prison? Are you gagged by your ribbons? Are you really exclusive or just miserly? You spend every sentence as if it was marked currency Come and spend some on me Shut me up and talk to me I'm always talking Chicken squawking Please talk to me Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC > Here's a track from Katie Noonan. Thanks for that track, Mark - very nice stuff. And talk about synchro! Just yesterday some Joni-related chase led me to their site, and I discovered that on their CD "Elixir" they have a track called "Blue" - since they are Joni fans, I emailed them to see if this was in fact a cover of Joni's song, though I doubt it. But it's my job to leave no stone unturned. Besides, I've had more than 1 group send me a recording of a Joni cover that they did and never released, that's always cool. Bob NP: Prince, "When Doves Cry" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:13:30 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item OK, chief, I'm still waiting for your review of Welsh jazzer Ian Shaw's cover album. I like it a lot, and one important thing about it is that it made me listen to some of Joni's songs which I didn't care that much for before. He does some very nice songs on this album, even some from WTRF, I think. mike in bcn - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "mike pritchard" Cc: "JMDL" Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item > > And there was me telling everyone that Muller > > never let me down yet... ;-) > > Sorry to let you down, amigo - it happens to > everyone, you just hung in there longer than > most. > > I guess that part of the appeal of WTRF for me > was that I had moved to Greenville from Raleigh > about a year prior, hadn't made any real friends, > my job was so-so, the music scene here was dead > and so was the radio, and I felt very > stranger-in-a-strange-land-ish. WTRF put a > friendly and familiar voice back in my life, and > for the most part she was joyful, and I found the > sonics to be a nice combination of infectious > rock rhythms and contemplative jazz-oriented > melodies. > > I listened to it a lot. > > Bob > > NP: Emmylou Harris, "Hour of Gold" > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 08:50:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: re: Joni guitar licks Opening slides to Cold Blue Steel. Hands down. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? I think it would be a disaster. How many catagories does one group need? The purpose of a subject line is to allow a reader the one or two seconds it takes to delete it. And how many Please make sure you put the NJC but Music Related tag on posts will we then receive? Lori Fye wrote: > Thinking more about this ... > > Victor wrote, about the option of subscribing to the "only Joni" options > versus receiving all posts: > >> Actually that's NOT really an option because then one >> only gets email relating to Joni, excluding any other >> music related email, which would defeat the whole >> purpose of switching. > > What do the "only Joni" people think of receiving email that may not be > Joni-related but is still music related? > > If listers were to omit the (N*JC) tag from music-related email, would you > welcome that? Or do you already get enough other music-related email from > other sources? > > Personally, although I subscribe to the "everything" mode, if I subcribed > to > the "only Joni" mode I think that I would like prefer to receive all > music-related email. Otherwise I would miss out on a lot of great new > music > that people hear and pass on via this list. But that's just me. > > What about YOU? > > I'm posting this to the entire group because I would like to encourage > discussion about it. You can respond privately to me or to the group, > with > or without the (N*JC) tag. > > (Or has this been discussed before?) > > Thanks, > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 06:56:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sonya w/ Herbie Hancock at Sonama Jazz Very cool catch, Jerry - I thought at first that it might be one of the alternate "Mingus" recordings that were shelved and re-recorded with the band that made it to the CD. But his website states that it's a live recording so perhaps it's the one from 1979 where Joni played with Herbie at the Playboy Jazz Festival - June 15, 1979. She performed GPPH as well as Coyote, Chair In The Sky, Dreamland, Black Crow & Dry Cleaner. Bob NP: Elvis C, "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:16:53 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: Favorite among Joni's guitar licks Hmmm There are just so many and I guess it just depends on what is playing on my minidisc at the time as to which lick I like.... In no particular order The intro to Don't Interrupt The Sorrow Just Like This Train The Wolf That Lives in Lindsay Woman Of Heart and Mind Sisotowbell Lane Refuge Of The Roads - especially when it gets going Trouble Child Oooooh that'll have to do, I'm sure that once I get looking at the whole collection and remembering what track does what, the list will be huge but that's a good starting point, methinks Much Joni JamieZoob On 03/04/06, Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama wrote: > * That loosely-strung opening slide upwards at the beginning of "Cold Blue > Steel and Sweet Fire". > > * That barking duet with Jaco, on "G*d Must Be A Boogie Man". Joni slaps > and Jaco slaps. They remind me of two dogs barking at each other from > different yards after everyone has gone to bed. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 and http://uk.castingcallpro.com/jamie.zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:23:24 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:06:22 -0700 "Lori Fye" wrote: > What do the "only Joni" people think of receiving email >that may not be > Joni-related but is still music related? I would prefer to keep it Joni-related only. For me, this means Joni and musicians who are CLOSELY related to her. For example, the sad news on Don Alias was something we all needed to hear. I know some will think "anyone who likes Joni will like this", but that's, I suspect, never true. I think the recent "singer" poll showed how wide ranging the likes on this list are, but probably the dislikes as well. There were a lot of singers on that list, some who scored pretty high, that I couldn't listen to for 2 minutes, but so what? We all have Joni Mitchell in common. I'll end by saying that the only reason I'm on "Joni only" has to do with time. If I find myself getting a lot more messages and many are on people I could care less about, I'll probably start deleting too freely and miss some of what I'm here for. OK, so that's one vote for "no". ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:39:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: "Shadows And Light" on CD I have this version and I love it. The only thing that slightly bothers me is the jump between tracks not being cohesive, especially when there's applause. I first bought the tape many years ago and I became used to an even transition between songs. I suppose with CD's it can't be helped but what are you going to do. Glad we are talking about Shadows and Light as I am still sad over the death of Don Alias. I never got the chance to see him perform live so Shadows and Light is my way of veing there without being there. It has become even more special to me... Sherelle This looks like your best bet and it's cheap: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002GXI/ I haven't done a back to back comparison with my vinyl, but with 2 discs, it should be complete. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:04:19 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Joni at The Duplex NYC Jerry wrote: The Storefront has announced plans for its second production of 2006. Tales of Joni: The Storefront Sings Mitchell will be presented on Sundays, April 23rd and 30th at 7pm at The Duplex Cabaret Theatre (61 Christopher St., in the heart of New York's West Village). There is a $12 cover charge ($10 for members of MAC and Cabaret Hotline Online), as well as a two-drink minimum. Credit cards are accepted, and no one under 21 will be permitted. For reservations, please call 212.255.5438. Me: As luck would have it, my partner and I will be in NYC from April 19 - 25th. Since we missed the Carnegie Hall show, it would be great to catch this tribute evening on Sunday the 23rd. Are there any other Jonilistas planning to attend ? Michael in Quebec NP: Now It Last - Leslie Feist _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 18:30:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni musings via Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek Hi all, I was supposed to delurk briefly only in response to the recent mention of The Kings of Convenience, but allow me to talk a little bit about Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek -- two very good jazz singers. During our fall break late last year I went to NYC to visit my ex-girlfriend who helps manage a family business (we hang out still as much as we can -- long story). I was able to catch the Cabaret Convention at Lincoln Center one night where they featured around 12 or so singers. I did a mini review of that evening's show here in the List and in some obscure online journal. About a month ago I got a nice email from one of the singers who I said I like very much. Her name is Adi Braun and the Canadians in this List may know of her. She sang two songs that night -- I think a cover of one of Gordon Lightfoot's songs. She told me she was grateful for the nice words I said about her and we exchanged an email or two. One of my suggestions to her is to cover a Joni song and she said she will think about it in the future. It would be a delight to listen to her voice give a different spin to Joni's songs. So there, maybe in the near future we will be hearing a version from her. Can't wait! I got a chance to attend to a singer named Mishka Adams of Filipino-British parentage, last summer when I was in Manila. I asked her if she ever considered covering a Joni song and her beautiful face lit and told me she liked Joni's "Shadows and Light" album very much. She is now in the UK doing music studies. Last night I listened to an up and coming jazz singer named Sara Gazarek. As some of you know, Sara covered Joni's "The Circle Game" in her fabulous 2005 debut album called "Yours". Listening to her last night in the drkness of my room, I must say that she imbued TCG with a new insight. Either that or the fact that the absence of light made me pay more attention to her voice than when lights are on. For the most part she mainly stuck to the song's familiar melodic line but she also changed dynamics here and phrased it differently there. At times she reminds you of the huskiness of a Jane Monheit and the clear-toned beauty of Karrin Allyson -- excellent contemporary jazz singers who both covered Joni more than once. I have to say though that when Sara (like most singers singing TCG) sings the part "Yesterday a child came out to wonder". The way the word "wonder" is phrased ALWAYS reminds me of Joni's particular way of phrasing that word. Like "wond-derrrr" with a trembling vibrato in the end. It sounds very sexy to my ears. But enough of these rambling thoughts. Joseph in even cloudier Chapel Hill np: Isaac Stern "Humoresque" - --------------------------------- Nouveau : tiliphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Dicouvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Tilichargez la version beta. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:31:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni at The Duplex NYC How I would love to be able to see both shows. And at the fabulous Duplex, no less. The very place that "Just Jack" got his start :) Please let us know how the show was, and for heaven's sake find some way to record it!! Jerry Michael O'Malley wrote: > Jerry wrote: > > The Storefront has announced plans for its second production of 2006. > Tales of Joni: The Storefront Sings Mitchell will be presented on Sundays, > April 23rd and 30th at 7pm at The Duplex Cabaret Theatre (61 Christopher > St., in the heart of New York's West Village). > > There is a $12 cover charge ($10 for members of MAC and Cabaret Hotline > Online), as well as a two-drink minimum. Credit cards are accepted, and no > one under 21 will be permitted. For reservations, please call > 212.255.5438. > > > Me: As luck would have it, my partner and I will be in NYC from April 19 - > 25th. Since we missed the Carnegie Hall show, it would be great to catch > this tribute evening on Sunday the 23rd. > Are there any other Jonilistas planning to attend ? > > Michael in Quebec > NP: Now It Last - Leslie Feist > > _________________________________________________________________ > Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented > Microsoft. > SmartScreen Technology. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 09:33:34 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" > complete with nipple slip! > RR nipple slip??!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:40:34 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: WWJD? I also choose ... > 2. Want people to talk about their anger about how > scary fucked up the shit in the world has gotten these > days, by which I mostly mean BushCo, Iraq, burgeoning > fascist theocracy, etc.? Evidence? The Beginning of Survival . Need I say more? (Oh yeah, I do: Thanks Fred! For bringing this up and for ALL that you do!!) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:50:16 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Scott" > From: "Randy Remote" >> complete with nipple slip! >> RR > > > nipple slip??!! Yeah....I was in the very last row of the Berkeley Community Theater, and was sure I could see her nipple poking out of her dress as she played. For years I wondered about that, but it was confirmed by another lister who was there, RellieA, who sent me the following: "Joni accidentally exposed her breast when she put her guitar strap over her head and started playing. I can't remember which song she was playing but I'll never forget the moment David yanked the binoculars from my hands and couldn't believe his good fortune. As a female musician I can only imagine how embarrassing it must have been for Joni to have played an entire song 'exposed' onstage like that." This was in March of '74, if memory serves, and kind of amazing it wasn't caught on film (or maybe it was). Also, at the risk of sounding like a total perv, you can see the edge of her areola in some of the bikini photos from the HOSL sessions that yielded the shot on the inside of the gatefold. The songbook for HOSL has them. RR, who notices these things ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:50:48 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? Jerry: > I think it would be a disaster. How many catagories does > one group need? > > The purpose of a subject line is to allow a reader the one > or two seconds it takes to delete it. And how many Please > make sure you put the NJC but Music Related tag on > posts will we then receive? Michael: > I would prefer to keep it Joni-related only. For me, this > means Joni and musicians who are CLOSELY related to > her. For example, the sad news on Don Alias was > something we all needed to hear. > I'll end by saying that the only reason I'm on "Joni only" > has to do with time. Excellent points. Okay, better suggestion: If you feel like you might be missing something but you don't want your Inbox cluttered, visit http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni/, where you'll find the latest "all posts" digest at the bottom. (The digest posts every morning around 3 am -- Eastern time, I believe. It posts more often if it's been a particularly busy day on the list.) There is also an "only Joni" version that can be found at http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni/ Scroll at your leisure. : ) Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:33:33 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news hey folks- from an article in this week's new yorker about muzak, the company http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060410fa_fact "Covers can be useful when you have a range of ages, McKelvey told me. You can play Vanessa Carlton and Counting Crows doing Big Yellow Taxi, and it s relevant to young people today because the message is still meaningful and they know who Vanessa Carlton and Counting Crows are, but its also relevant to their parents, who think, Wait a minute, I know this songisnt that what s-her-name? They may not think of Joni Mitchell right away, but the song affects them because they listened to it when they were younger. also, i saw a good friend of mine this morning, also a joni fan, and she's very good friends with the brazilian singer luciana souza (who performed at wall-to-wall joni in new york a couple of years back). my friend told me that souza and larry klein are engaged to be married. news to me... patrick np - petrova and safarova playing tennis on tv ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news And the Counting Crows cover has since spawned a flurry of covers of itself, especially on the college acapella circuit. A few of the CD's credit the song to The Crows as opposed to Joni. If I'm not mistaken, it's their biggest hit thus far, pretty ironic as it was a hidden track on Hard Candy to start with. Bob NP: Steely Dan, "Here At The Western World" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 13:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news patrick leader wrote: also, i saw a good friend of mine this morning, also a joni fan, and she's very good friends with the brazilian singer luciana souza (who performed at wall-to-wall joni in new york a couple of years back). my friend told me that souza and larry klein are engaged to be married. news to me... patrick From Detroit's MetroTimes online at http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8987 and apparently a March 15, 2006 posting of Luciana's answers to interview questions: 2. Moving: I'm moving to Los Angeles. So that's foremost in my mind because of No. 1. 1. Wedding: I'm getting married to a man who lives there. His name is Larry Klein; he is a music producer. (MT: Doesn't he do pop stuff?) Yeah. (MT: Don't change too much when you move to L.A.) Oh, no. I'm keeping my place in New York. But he's there, and I fell in love, and I want to pursue it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 14:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni mention in the new yorker, plus larry klein marriage news I somehow feel this whole wedding thing isn't going to please Joni too much... Nuri J Kendel Johnson wrote: patrick leader wrote: also, i saw a good friend of mine this morning, also a joni fan, and she's very good friends with the brazilian singer luciana souza (who performed at wall-to-wall joni in new york a couple of years back). my friend told me that souza and larry klein are engaged to be married. news to me... patrick From Detroit's MetroTimes online at http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8987 and apparently a March 15, 2006 posting of Luciana's answers to interview questions: 2. Moving: I'm moving to Los Angeles. So that's foremost in my mind because of No. 1. 1. Wedding: I'm getting married to a man who lives there. His name is Larry Klein; he is a music producer. (MT: Doesn't he do pop stuff?) Yeah. (MT: Don't change too much when you move to L.A.) Oh, no. I'm keeping my place in New York. But he's there, and I fell in love, and I want to pursue it. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2"/min or less. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 17:11:35 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Any info. of the "upcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album"? This was probably mentioned before when I was not reading the closely, But I read on the unofficial Emmylou Harris web site that "Emmylou has recorded 'Magdalene Laundries' for the upcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album." Jan. News at http://www.emmylou.net/ Any info on this album? Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:51:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Any info. of the "upcoming Joni Mitchell tribute album"? Subject: ok this is weird but DJRD is finally becoming attractive to me. I'm finding myself oddly OK when it comes on. Downloaded it all from iTunes a few weeks ago - and the downloaded cuts seem maybe cleaner (could that be?) than on either the vinyl or CD versions I have. I don't know where Joni went off to in her head....but this is an interesting peek in. It is quite a soaring work. Even tho some of the themes are of the earth, I sense this one as viewing from above - or maybe its just the big sky thing. Em http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 21:15:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Who is Katie Noonan? VLJC - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > Here's a track from Katie Noonan. > > Thanks for that track, Mark - very nice stuff. > I was just listening to that. Very pretty! Thanks, Mark. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:41:47 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Joni questions/commands laura wrote: >"and when (I) we ask you why" >"Can I(we) help you find the peace and the star" these two, in particular, touch me uhm m m I love this dicussion of commands: >I can think more easily of commands than questions in Joni's songs... >like "shine your light on me Miss Liberty" or "look at those jokers" or >"study >war no more" or "send me somebody whose strong and somewhat sincere," etc. command - ----Original Message Follows---- From: LCStanley7@aol.com A lazy inquisitive mind asks: What are any of Joni's references to *questions (of any kind)? Perhaps my favorite Joni question ever is: "Do you want to dance" Other favorites: "does the moon play only silver" "dying roses will they will their perfumed rhapsodies to me" "and when (I) we ask you why" "how did you come to trade the fiddle for the drum" "Can I(we) help you find the peace and the star" "Lady, have you no heart" "wondering, where had it to go" I can think more easily of commands than questions in Joni's songs... like "shine your light on me Miss Liberty" or "look at those jokers" or "study war no more" or "send me somebody whose strong and somewhat sincere," etc. Love, Laura _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:47:27 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: recording, bob >Besides, I've had more than 1 group send me a >recording of a Joni cover that they did and never >released, that's always cool. >Bob that is very cool .. . what's up with this thing about " 'me too' posts." I am all for them. : -) _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:56:07 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: tags no more tags looked it up. . . tag: ~a label that classifies a piece of data, for example, by its type, to facilitate later retrieval ~the tip of an animal's tail, especially if in a contrasting color with the rest of the tail Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Joni only, or all posts about music? I think it would be a disaster. How many catagories does one group need? The purpose of a subject line is to allow a reader the one or two seconds it takes to delete it. And how many Please make sure you put the NJC but Music Related tag on posts will we then receive? _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 21:59:23 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Joni tribute podcast Let us know Bob let us know. . not that I really know what a pod cast is. . do I need an ipod for this. I don't have one. Marianne >And in other cover-related news, I'm working with Brian Ibbott of the podcast Coverville to put together a Joni tribute podcast. Details on this hopefully coming soon. Kakki, as you recall, you were one of the folks who greatly encouraged me with my covers project and I will always be grateful for that. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:01:35 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: WWJD? >> Would she: >> 1. Want people to talk exclusively about her music? >> or would she: >> 2. Want people to talk about their anger about how scary fucked up the >>shit in the world has gotten these days, by which I mostly mean BushCo, >>Iraq, burgeoning fascist theocracy, etc.? or 3. What ever people want to talk about because she doesn't really care I would say #3 and also I'd rather use this list as an outlet to talk about music and other positive things than dwell on the negative but maybe that's just me. Victor, home after singing Mozart's Requiem with the Georgia State Singers and Orchestra ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 22:17:40 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Joni musings via Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek I enjoyed reading all of this Joseph. all roads lead to joni? Bob, which cover has Sara Gazarek? >Last night I listened to an up and coming jazz singer named Sara Gazarek. >As some of you know, Sara covered Joni's "The Circle Game" in her fabulous 2005 debut album called "Yours". Listening to her last night in the drkness of my room, I must say that she imbued TCG with a new insight. Either that or the fact that the absence of light made me pay more attention to her voice than when lights are on. For the most part she mainly stuck to the song's familiar melodic line but she also changed dynamics here and phrased it differently there. At times she reminds you of the huskiness of a Jane Monheit and the clear-toned beauty of Karrin Allyson -- excellent contemporary jazz singers who both covered Joni more than once. I have to say though that when Sara (like most singers singing TCG) sings the part "Yesterday a child came out to wonder". The way the word "wonder" is phrased ALWAYS reminds me of Joni's particular way of phrasing that word. Like "wond-derrrr" with a trembling vibrato in the end. in it's entirety: From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni musings via Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek Hi all, I was supposed to delurk briefly only in response to the recent mention of The Kings of Convenience, but allow me to talk a little bit about Adi Braun and Sara Gazarek -- two very good jazz singers. During our fall break late last year I went to NYC to visit my ex-girlfriend who helps manage a family business (we hang out still as much as we can -- long story). I was able to catch the Cabaret Convention at Lincoln Center one night where they featured around 12 or so singers. I did a mini review of that evening's show here in the List and in some obscure online journal. About a month ago I got a nice email from one of the singers who I said I like very much. Her name is Adi Braun and the Canadians in this List may know of her. She sang two songs that night -- I think a cover of one of Gordon Lightfoot's songs. She told me she was grateful for the nice words I said about her and we exchanged an email or two. One of my suggestions to her is to cover a Joni song and she said she will think about it in the future. It would be a delight to listen to her voice give a different spin to Joni's songs. So there, maybe in the near future we will be hearing a version from her. Can't wait! I got a chance to attend to a singer named Mishka Adams of Filipino-British parentage, last summer when I was in Manila. I asked her if she ever considered covering a Joni song and her beautiful face lit and told me she liked Joni's "Shadows and Light" album very much. She is now in the UK doing music studies. Last night I listened to an up and coming jazz singer named Sara Gazarek. As some of you know, Sara covered Joni's "The Circle Game" in her fabulous 2005 debut album called "Yours". Listening to her last night in the drkness of my room, I must say that she imbued TCG with a new insight. Either that or the fact that the absence of light made me pay more attention to her voice than when lights are on. For the most part she mainly stuck to the song's familiar melodic line but she also changed dynamics here and phrased it differently there. At times she reminds you of the huskiness of a Jane Monheit and the clear-toned beauty of Karrin Allyson -- excellent contemporary jazz singers who both covered Joni more than once. I have to say though that when Sara (like most singers singing TCG) sings the part "Yesterday a child came out to wonder". The way the word "wonder" is phrased ALWAYS reminds me of Joni's particular way of phrasing that word. Like "wond-derrrr" with a trembling vibrato in the end. It sounds very sexy to my ears. But enough of these rambling thoughts. Joseph in even cloudier Chapel Hill np: Isaac Stern "Humoresque" _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 20:06:06 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: WWJD? As someone recently wrote (was it you smurf?) this list is amazing because of its wide range of content & the first hand information from folks around the world experiencing events as they unfold in our news media... checking in here on 9/11 & hearing from the nyc folks is just one of the most poignant examples... but there have been many others... .. The music & other cultural discussions here are as wide ranging as it gets... it is always fascinating to hear what others are listening to, or what concert they attended, or what movies they have seen... So the current affairs mixed with the arts seems most befitting of the woman whose name this list is in honor of... especially considering her most recent releases which provide us all with an insight into what she is trying to say (putting aside the fact that they are not new songs)... Growing up in the era I did, it has always felt natural for music & world events to be intertwined... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 20:17:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item Most certainly a wardrobe misfunction! > > nipple slip??!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:38:20 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: "The Essential Herbie Hancock", JC? Hmmm... Mr. Hancock's official site, http://www.herbiehancock.com/music/discography/?aid=54 lists 20 tracks in "The Essential Herbie Hancock", *due* to be released (a few weeks ago) on Feb 16, but none of them are "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat". But the news section of the same site http://www.herbiehancock.com/news/story.php?sid=41 dated Feb 16, 2006, says " The Essential Herbie Hancock also features features one previously unreleased selection: a live version of Charles Mingus' "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" featuring a vocal by Joni Mitchell." Amazon list 20 tracks too (on 2 discs) but, again, none of them are "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat". These guys http://www.homegrownmusic.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code =HancockE&Category_Code=New show "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" as the 6th track on disc2, and a total of 21 tracks in the collection. They say it was "*Released* 3/7/06", my emphasis. Disc: 2 1. Butterfly 2. People Music 3. Milestones 4. 4 Am 5. Come Running To Me 6. Goodbye Porkpie Hat 7. Finger Painting 8. Stars In Your Eyes 9. Rockit 10. St. Louis Blues 11. Manhattan Maybe the ultimate reference, the Legacy recordings portion of Columbia Records, http://www.legacyrecordings.com/site_artists/product_10282.html only prolongs the ambiguity. The description of the album ends with >The Essential Herbie Hancock also features features one previously unreleased selection: a live version of Charles Mingus' "Goodbye Porkpie Hat" featuring a vocal by Joni Mitchell.> The tracklist doesn't show the Mingus title: 1. Butterfly 2. People Music 3. Milestones 4. 4 A.M. 5. Come Running To Me 6. Finger Painting 7. Stars In Your Eyes 8. Rockit 9. St. Louis Blues 10. Manhattan My best hope is that "The Essential Herbie Hancock" was scheduled for release on Feb 16 but they held it till March 7 to add Mingus' "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" with Joni singing. I guess it could be the other way around: the Essentials were held up when Joni pulled 'her' track. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:38:40 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: larry klein marriage news Klein chooses interesting women From: J Kendel Johnson From Detroit's MetroTimes online at http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=8987 and apparently a March 15, 2006 posting of answers to interview questions: 2. Moving: I'm moving to Los Angeles. So that's foremost in my mind because of No. 1. 1. Wedding: I'm getting married to a man who lives there. His name is Larry Klein; he is a music producer. (MT: Doesn't he do pop stuff?) Yeah. (MT: Don't change too much when you move to L.A.) Oh, no. I'm keeping my place in New York. But he's there, and I fell in love, and I want to pursue it. patrick leader wrote: also, i saw a good friend of mine this morning, also a joni fan, and she's very good friends with the brazilian singer luciana souza (who performed at wall-to-wall joni in new york a couple of years back). my friend told me that souza and larry klein are engaged to be married. news to me... patrick _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:40:56 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: ok this is weird Funny you should say that. As I've said before, I lost interest in Joni's music after HOSL, though I did like most of that album. I never listened to Hejira or any after until the last few years when I picked them up on used vinyl or CD ( except TTT, so far). Against my expectations, DJRD was the most interesting. I say interesting rather than attractive because I haven't been moved to play it much since, but I definitely felt it was the best of the lot. I case anyone should suggest that I should "try harder" , if I have to try, it ain't workin'. I don't choose to like music, it chooses me. However, I'm likely to play that album again. I'll call it "intriguing". Doug Em wrote: > but DJRD is finally becoming attractive to me. > I'm finding myself oddly OK when it comes on. Downloaded it all from > iTunes a few weeks ago - and the downloaded cuts seem maybe cleaner > (could that be?) than on either the vinyl or CD versions I have. > I don't know where Joni went off to in her head....but this is an > interesting peek in. > It is quite a soaring work. > Even tho some of the themes are of the earth, I sense this one as > viewing from above - or maybe its just the big sky thing. > Em > > http://www.eventsounds.com/wav/imsorry.wav ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:07:06 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: counting crows >And the Counting Crows cover has since spawned a flurry of covers of itself, especially on the college acapella circuit. A few of the CD's credit the song to The Crows as opposed to Joni. If I'm not mistaken, it's their biggest hit thus far, pretty ironic as it was a hidden track on Hard Candy to start with. Bob< interesting. . I think I should play this in class. . a lot. . . and then play joni's version back to back a lot Bob, I know we have the counting crows version on one of your cover cd's. Do you remember which one? I hope I get my act together on this. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:10:11 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: mueller and chainsaw >So in the meantime, check out Ian Shaw's >wonderful "Drawn To All Things"...I was hoping to >get to a review of it today, but a tree fell this >week in my neighbor's yard, half in his and half >in mine and I was out with a chainsaw acting all >macho and all. >Bob wow. . .I'd like to see that. : -) XOXO _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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