From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #98 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 3 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 098 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni's voice [rsc1@humboldt.edu] hatbox, valuable joni item ["Marianne Rizzo" ] sjc Oliver Jones and Ranee Lee concert ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: hatbox, valuable joni item - NOT!! [Bob Muller ] Re: More Don Alias updates... [Bob Muller ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: hatbox, valuable joni item - NOT!! ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item [Victor Johnson ] RE: valuable joni item [Smurf ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 [Randy Remote ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #95 [ROBMSTEEN@aol.com] Re: Top 10, no top 20 ["ron" ] The week that was... [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni & The Dan [Bob Muller ] Covers Vol 75 uploaded again. [Brian Gross ] RE: valuable joni item [Em ] Favorite among Joni's guitar licks ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" The destruction of her voice through decades of chain smoking is a > tragedy that stabs me in the heart every time I think about it. > Sitting in auditoriums recently listening to the still-vibrant, > full-ranged voices of Joan Baez and Judy Collins -- Judy, in particular > -- just twisted the knife that much further. As a live sound engineer, I've had the opportunity to do a couple of shows with Judy Collins in the last 3 years. I was once a fan of her work, but she was really difficult to listen to now. She requests that her voice be drenched in reverb, ALL THE TIME, even when she speaks, which helps smoothe out the notes that she has trouble sustaining, but also makes her sound like she is in a huge cave. It was weird when she talked between tunes with this 3-4 second concert hall 'verb on her voice. Ugh. The last time I worked with her was worse. She did a couple of tunes ("things I picked up from my granddaughter - here's a song by the group Train") with her accompanying herself on piano and a cheesy drum and bass track on a laptop. She got lost a couple of times and fumbled and smiled, obviously embarassed. The songs weren't very good, and her performance of them poor. She also had a lot of trouble staying in pitch during the second set. Plus, she was the stereotypical diva... walked right off stage, smiled, and had her assistant wrap a coat around her as she walked out the door and straight into the limo. Sorry folks, Judy has left the building. Give me Joni and her weathered, but full-bodied and passionate voice over that any day! Now Joan Baez - she can still sing! I actually prefer her voice of the last ten years to any before. Her pipes have just gotten better and better. Gus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 10:55:58 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: hatbox, valuable joni item Re: Most Valuable Joni Item Lori Fye wrote: Nuriel asked a great question: >What's the most valuable Joni item that you posses? (In terms of price or emotion) Price: Limited edition "Night Ride Home" cd ... or Limited Edition "Both Sides Now" hatbox (neither of which are really worth a whole, whole lot in terms of price, at least not yet). me now: I threw that hatbox thing away. . I couldn't stand it. . . I know it was joni sacrilegious. . but it bothered me that the item was not useful . . I mean, once you took the cd out of it . . you could not even put things into it. . I mean. . the way it was packaged irratated me. . and every time I looked at it, on my shelf. . I was aggravated with joni for allowing an item such as this to represent her. . such the epitome of a non recyclable thiing. I mean I coudln't even pout rocks or diamonds in it. . I know this is bad but I had to chuck it. . . Marianne _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:06:03 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: sjc Oliver Jones and Ranee Lee concert With the high standing of the great Ella on our JMDL singers list, it seems appropriate to speak of a show I saw last night, here in Quebec. Oliver Jones and Ranee Lee are long time friends and old pros from the old school of jazz. Together with their trio, they gave us a great evening of standards, paying tribute to the great ladies of jazz: Lena, Sarah and Ella. Piano highlights included some of Oliver's original material (a song for Diana Krall), Gershwin melodies and What a Beautiful Life. In the second half of the show, Lee gave us a very moving rendition of Both Sides Now, sung downtempo as a dramatic ballad. She followed this with red-hot versions of Lady Be Good and Honeysuckle Rose. After a generous standing ovation, they closed the evening with an intimate rendition of Stardust, one of the lovliest ballads in the repertoire, to be sure. Mostly grey heads in the audience. Concerts of this ilk are now few and far in between - a sign of the passing times. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:42:36 EDT From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: More Don Alias updates... forgive my njc....there is a link on his website _www.donalias.com_ (http://www.donalias.com) to find your local listings A tribute to Don is expected to be heard on Sunday evening, April 2, 2006 on NPR's "All Things Considered." Click _here_ (http://www.npr.org/templates/stations/schedule/index.php?prgId=2&showNav=1) to find a radio station in your area. (clocks are changing on Sunday) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:49:41 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: hatbox, valuable joni item Great question,,Nuri.. valuable joni item: Marianne bought me the Mendel Gallery book with Joni's autograph. sentimental Joni item : Ladies of the Canyon...this was the first music of Joni's I was exposed to. It takes me away..I get goosebumps still... >>I mean I couldn't even pout rocks or diamonds in it. . All your diamonds wouldn't fit? >I know this is bad but I had to chuck it. . . > > >Marianne > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 11:16:03 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:48:37 +0200 "ron" wrote: > hi > > > so - i pulled all the digests as some bright spark (hi >bob - thanks for voluime 75!!) suggested > > there were 786 votes, consisting of 410 different >artists, of whom 206 were male, 181 were female, 1 was >grace jones & the others were unknown to me. Thanks, Ron! That took a bit of work, I would guess, and was interesting reading. Joni coming in first was the only thing that would have been completely obvious to me. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:22:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: hatbox, valuable joni item - NOT!! This 'hatbox' issue could not have been more of a fiasco. First of all, it's certainly not a collector's item - you can go on Amazon.com today and buy one for $14, about a third of what the original release commanded. Second of all, as we recall, the CD wasn't secured and lots of them got scratched as they bounced and shook in transit. Third (and worst, imo) the hatbox came out 6 weeks prior to the basic jewel-case edition, exploiting those of us who were aching to have the latest Joni the day it came out. (Hyped as a special "Valentines' Day" promo - feh!) Why did they do this? Reprise refuses to answer my questions...the American people need to demand answers! A useless and impractical packaging scheme, and that doesn't even touch on the quality of the music on the discs that did play. I was all too happy to give my worthless dust-collecting hatbox to Ashara for a Jonifest giveaway. Bob NP: The brilliant April Fool's Day Coverville podcast - Clive, have you heard it? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 09:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: More Don Alias updates... They typically archive these broadcasts online, so you should be able to pull this up at your convenience. I'm anxious to hear it, thanks for staying on top of this for us Rose. Bob > A tribute to Don is expected to be heard on > Sunday evening, April 2, 2006 > on NPR's "All Things Considered." > Click _here_ > (http://www.npr.org/templates/stations/schedule/index.php?prgId=2&showNav=1) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:37:44 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Yes..thanks so much! It was a lot of fun going through your compilation. Joni voice: I'm glad she came in first..... her voice was just so right for her songs. Thanks to Mack for starting the whole thing!! Bree >>hi >> >> >>so - i pulled all the digests as some bright spark (hi bob - thanks for >>voluime 75!!) suggested >> >>there were 786 votes, consisting of 410 different artists, of whom 206 >>were male, 181 were female, 1 was grace jones & the others were unknown to >>me. > >Thanks, Ron! That took a bit of work, I would guess, and was interesting >reading. Joni coming in first was the only thing that would have been >completely obvious to me. > >Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:01:26 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: hatbox, valuable joni item - NOT!! > Reprise refuses to answer my questions...the American > people need to demand answers! Not funny, Bob. Sorry. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:13:35 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item ok, I'll see if I can scan it and post it somewhere, maybe on myspace.... Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:31:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: RE: valuable joni item Easy question, easy answer . . . the JMDL. The JMDL has taught me more than I ever needed to know about Joni and it has given me thousand of hours of fun and enlightenment. I've met people I love here, people who have changed my life in various ways, and people whose support and friendship I will always be grateful for. I am glad that by following my bliss I ended up in such a perfect place. Other than that, my Jonifest mugs, t-shirts and ephemera -- like welcome packets! -- are the material things I, ahem, cherish. And, of course, many of the Joni covers, concerts, CDs and DVDs I now have. XO, - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:10:53 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 Thanks for your compilational labors, Ron- Interesting that Mick Fleetwood and John McVie each got a vote, but not Lindsay Buckingham*. Also that Ozzie Osbourne got the same votes (1) as Otis Redding and Brian Wilson, and that 3 of the top 6 are from our parents generation. * to my knowledge, the only vocals they ever did were a spoken piece by Fleetwood on the obscure Mac album "Time", and McVie's unison "dum-dum" singing with his bass on a song on the "The Dance" cd/dvd. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:08:34 EDT From: ROBMSTEEN@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #95 Re: Morph the Cat Just to endorse the views expressed thus far. By my estimation, based on a week of solid iPod-ing, there are at least four stone-cold classics in among the 8-and-a-reprise tracks (and I reckon a 50% success rate is a damn fine ratio given that even the wisest acts are now making records twice as long as they did in their prime) - the apocalyptical swing of 'Morph the Cat', the Haitian-Divorce-guitarring 'H Gang', the plaintive-but-assertive Don-Talks-To-Brother-Ray 'What I Do' and the unbelievably funky 'Bright Nightgown'. The last could easily be a dancefloor hit if anyone had the wit to market it (or sell it to Coke or summat). But then, as Joni will testify with some gusto, marketing fiftysomethings and sixtysomethings is a new and horribly inexact science. What fascinates me is how Donald's solo work compares with his labours with Walter B, and what that says about the most intriguing musical writing partnership since Paul and John fell out. Gone, it seems to me, is most of the scabrous wit, and the more inventive jazzy shuffles and inflections, the trickier time signatures. On the other hand, Walter's sole solo effort, 11 Tracks of Whack - the fact that there were 12 tells you all you need to know about Mr Becker's sense of humour - was distinctly short on memorable or even foot-tapping melodies, let alone what Nick Kent so memorably called Fagen's "dry white whine" of a voice. Similarly, much as I loved parts of Kamakiriad (esp Teahouse on the Tracks and Florida Room), the relief at some new "Dan" product was palpable: five years on and Two Against Nature (Janie Runaway, Almost Gothic, Cousin Dupree and Jack of Speed, West of Hollywood) sounds both worse than I remembered and better than I probably had any right to expect. Then came Everything Must Go, which was as sharp and funky and - unusually - as moving as the Chromatic Duo have ever been. Not their best, granted: just as Joni, in my view, could never cap Hissing or Hejira, or Bob trump Highway 61 or BOTT, or Todd surpass Something/Anything or A Wizard A True Star, or Van better Astral Weeks (now there's a millstone!), so Countdown to Ecstasy, Pretzel Logic and Gaucho remain distant peaks. But, as with Taming the Tiger, Things Must Change and Liars, the mere fact that these musicians are still rewarding our loyalty, and not disappointing our expectations, is a small miracle for which I will be eternally grateful. And, by way of a Joni link, I wonder whether I am alone in dreaming of a collaboration between Don, Walter and the Divine Ms J. I can picture it now: the best jazz-pop confessionals ever by The Artistes Henceforth To Be Known As Two Yids and a Yok. Lurve and peace Rob xx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 22:30:29 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 hi >>>randy wrote > Interesting that Mick Fleetwood and John McVie each > got a vote, but not Lindsay Buckingham*. > * to my knowledge, the only vocals they ever did were > a spoken piece by Fleetwood on the obscure Mac album > "Time", and McVie's unison "dum-dum" singing with his bass on a song on > the "The Dance" cd/dvd. the vote was actually for fleetwood mac as a whole. the poster went on to list the names & i just took that as a vote for each of them. i'm not very familiar with fleetwood mac so i didnt pick up on this - tho i did wonder why the poster didnt mention stevie nicks. > and that 3 of the top 6 are from our > parents generation. my dad would have been so happy to see the list - he was a huge ella fitzgerald & frank sinatra fan, and also listened to billie holiday . i had ella shoved down my throat till i couldnt stand her, & i never got the point of frank sinatra - he just always seemed so slick & so false to me. i think the most amazing thing about the list is the range of different tastes once you get lower down the list - there are some real surprises down there from both points of view - some who i wouldnt have expected to see at all, and some who i really would have expected to see higher up the list - like most of the ones i voted for ;-) ron ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:50:16 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: The week that was... Posted on Sun, Apr. 02, 2006 AP Entertainment highlights during the week of April 2-8: b"B 1956: Paramount Pictures signed Elvis Presley to a three-movie contract just a few days after his first screen test. b"B 1960: "Ben-Hur" won the best picture and best director Academy Awards. The film's star, Charlton Heston, was named best actor. b"B 1961: Bob Dylan played his first paid gig in New York, in the Loeb Music Center. b"B 1964: The Beatles held the top five positions on Billboard's Hot 100 chart. "Can't Buy Me Love" was No. 1, followed by "Twist and Shout," "She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Please Please Me." b"B 1971: Carly Simon performed her first concert, opening for Cat Stevens in New York. James Taylor was in the audience and went backstage to meet her. They married in 1972 and divorced 10 years later. b"B 1986: Clint Eastwood won his bid to become mayor of Carmel, Calif. b"B 1994: Kurt Cobain of Nirvana was found dead in his Seattle home of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He was 27. b"B 1996: Elizabeth Taylor split up with Larry Fortensky after four years of marriage. He was her eighth husband. b"B 1997: Joni Mitchell was reunited with Kilauren Gibb, the daughter she gave up for adoption 32 years earlier. b"B 2003: Russell Crowe married Danielle Spencer in Australia. b"B 2005: ABC News anchor Peter Jennings announced he had lung cancer. He died four months later. - ------ - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:52:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni & The Dan I'm sure you're not...I know that there are quite a few that would relish such a project. Back in the 70's I remember hearing rumors about a "Doobie Dan" project, combining Steely Dan & The Doobie Brothers, since they already shared Skunk Baxter & Michael McDonald. But alas, I fear that it would never work. As much as Joni admires their work, all three of them are studio dictators (not a bad thing) and refuse to be deterred from their musical vision. And imo, Todd's "Liars" is his finest and most consistent work, not plagued by the excess of his earlier releases. And funny that you mentioned "Brite Nitegown" as one of your 4 classics as it's the only tune on the CD that I think is on the weak side. Well, to each their own after all. Bob NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Marry Me" (new one from them this month - can't wait!) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Covers Vol 75 uploaded again. http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0PPEUDAAXYLQH1NL0GP5LILK2M Included are the track descriptions by The Covers King, Bob Muller. Thanks for the great job you do for this Community, Bob. It is truly appreciated. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 18:29:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: valuable joni item Hey! I was gonna say that! I was! But then I thought, nah, they'll just all think its cuz she doesn't even have any cool/rare/valuable Joni stuff. LOL! But the list? P R I C E L E S S! My head has been sooooooo well nourished, musically, since coming here. And not just musically - other ways. I am thankful. Thanks Les. You played real good for free. :) Em - --- Smurf wrote: > Easy question, easy answer . . . the JMDL. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 02:09:46 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Favorite among Joni's guitar licks * That loosely-strung opening slide upwards at the beginning of "Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire". * That barking duet with Jaco, on "G*d Must Be A Boogie Man". Joni slaps and Jaco slaps. They remind me of two dogs barking at each other from different yards after everyone has gone to bed. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #98 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)