From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #97 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 2 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 097 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's Smoke Gets In Your Eyes [Nuriel Tobias ] Joni Covers Volume 75 - Diamonds On My Windshield [Bob Muller ] re: Top Voices [seulbzzaj@aol.com] Don Alias [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item [Victor Johnson ] Let's help out the Alias family if we can [RoseMJoy@aol.com] Most Valuable Joni Item ["Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" ] Re: Most Valuable Joni Item [Nuriel Tobias ] Covers 75, the songs [Bob Muller ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #95 [StDoherty@aol.com] re: Top Voices [dsknyc05 ] Re: Top 10, no top 20 ["ron" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 02:39:02 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Joni's Smoke Gets In Your Eyes Lori Fye wrote: "However, Joni smokes, she always has, she probably always will. She has said it "grounds" her." I totaly know what she's talking about, Lori. The belly is the center of emotions in the human body. Breathing smoke numbs it a bit, otherwise we would simply burst out in tears. Love, Nuri Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 04:24:58 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers Volume 75 - Diamonds On My Windshield It's a diamond anniversary of sorts...after all, the 75th anniversary is known as the Diamond anniversary, and the baseball season kicks off this month and they play on a diamond, plus the songs on this compilation are so sharp they can cut glass! Well, not all of them, but to be sure there are many many shiny joo-wels to be found in this month's edition of Joni Mitchell covers. As is my custom, I offer my heartfelt gratitude to the good folks who helped me round these up: Catherine McKay Les Irvin (I will follow up with a link to the tunes - for some reason the one that I had isn't working) Thanks y'all - now let's get on with the listening & yakking: 1. Bruce Radtke Jazz Trio - The Circle Game: The first of 5 Circle Games on V75, and interesting because each of them is so different. New York based Bruce Radtke Jazz Trio (guitar, bass, drums) utilizes a really different arrangement, very exploratory and unique. And with a running time of almost eight minutes, they definitely enjoy stretching out a bit. It actually takes a couple of listens to pick out the melody, and it definitely rewards repeated listens. 2. Amelia Browning - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: A Southern California jazz vocalist, Amelia brings a nice degree of bass-heavy funk to her cover of Dry Cleaner and navigates the tricky melody with ease. 3. Bill Kaffenberger - Urge For Going: While I usually always enjoy UFG covers, this one has way too much echo on the vocal and employs what sounds like a pre-programmed drum and bass track that gives it a very canned feel. Plus he messes up the words, and that's a criminal offense with what I consider to be one of Joni's most poetic songs. It sounds like he's going for a Roger McGuinn sorta thing with his voice and guitar...swing and a miss. 4. Erana Clark - The Circle Game: From Auckland, New Zealand, Erana started singing in talent shows as a child and pretty much grew up in the show business life. She's now a vocal coach on "Australian Idol". She's certainly got a nice voice and puts it to good use in this spirited and pop-flavored 1973 recording. 5. Celia Slattery - Both Sides Now: Boston area cabaret singer & performer, Celia's take on the franchise is smooth and well-done, and the arrangement has some really nice twists to it, including a background choral chant that recalls "Life In A Northern Town". I like it a lot - maybe I'm pouring it on too thick, but like they say, Slattery will get you everywhere! 6. Sarah Slean - Woodstock (live): An unreleased live recording, Sarah (a Toronto-area singer-songwriter) channels Tori Amos on this one. 7. Jennifer Scott - Free Man In Paris: A very fresh take on the Court and Spark standard - loose and jazzy, and the intro recalls Steely Dan's "Home At Last". A wonderful band, fun swinging solos, an outstanding tune - what more could you ask for? And again, they take their time, stretch out and sound like they're really enjoying it. 8. Jennifer Scott - You Dream Flat Tires: Jennifer scores a two-for-two with one of my fave WTRF songs, and a not-often covered one at that. Her vocal is right on, and the arrangement swings and features excellent players, including a smooth, velvety sax solo - she takes it in a great Steely Dan-ish jazz direction, moreso than Joni did. 9. Robin James - Circle Game Medley: This reminds me of when I was in Elementary and on Thursdays the "Music Lady" would come to our class and play the piano and sing. This is an interesting medley but the singing is too didactic for my tastes. 10. The Escape Committee - Woodstock: Hailing from Warrington, Cheshire in the UK, these guys like to get out and rock out in the pubs and such and pull out all the classic chestnuts. They're pretty tight and the guitarists can wail. This one takes the CSNY cover and makes a nice jam ala Skynyrd and Free Bird-style. 11. Rita Chao - The Circle Game (Mandarin): I love the foreign language covers, and lovely Rita sings it Mandarin. 12. Cyril Ornadel Orchestra - Woodstock: Cheesy but fun, sounds like the background music they'd play in a 70's spy movie or detective show when the good guys are on the run from the evil agents. A real variety of sonic devices including a pizzicato string chorus and some righteous fuzztone electric guitar. Makes me wanna do the frug! 13. Wheatones - I Don't Know Where I Stand: Early recording (1978) from the ladies of Wheaton College, this one is interesting because they employ a nearly different melody than what Joni wrote. Nice harmonies though. 14. Tom Young - Both Sides Now: A lovely and intimate instrumental. 15. Cherry Boys - The Circle Game: And those Circles keep going round and round and round and round. The fifth CG in this compilation is an instrumental that features a Duane Eddy-style "twangy" guitar and uses the Agnes Chan arrangement. 16. Stephen Fretwell - Rainy Night House: A pleasant surprise, this live in-studio performance was from 2005 and was only available as a B-side to his single release of "Emily". Stephen is an English singer-songwriter, and given that he's only 20-something I hope to hear more Joni covers from him before he's done. 17. Lynn Skinner - Help Me: Many of us got the chance to hear Lynn in NYC this year, the uber-talented Colorado-based jazz singer and vocal teacher does Help Me in a lovely samba-style. Given her vocal range and talent, and those of her supporting musicians, it makes for a great listen. And at over 6-1/2 minutes, there's some nice solo-ing and time for the players to get into it. 18. Cadence - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: More Toronto-based talent. Acapella, with amazingly creative vocals and harmonies. This one almost makes my jaw drop, I am truly in awe of their talents. The more you listen to it, the more you hear. And that's it - not too many clunkers this month, and once again recordings that span the globe, the years, the genres, and the genius that is Joni Mitchell. I'll be back in a month with a fresh batch, and may even have a surprise or two as the month rolls on. Bob NP: John Hiatt, "You Must Go" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 07:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 I've resent mine to Ron. I'd venture to guess that besides Joni, Judy Collins was next. Jerry ron wrote: > well - that was fascinating. > > how about a collation of the results? > > since im at home on leave for a week (& have already blown all my money) > ill > volunteer to do the honours. > > if everyone will send me their lists (i havent kept them) ill tot up all > the > votes - a mention on a list regardless of ranking = 1 vote > > obviously the poiny here would not be to see whos the best singer, but who > is the most popular > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:00:54 -0500 From: seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: re: Top Voices Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:44:24 +0100 From: Gordon G Mackie Subject: Top Voices Maria Callas (pre 1965 - if ever there was a lesson for JM its here) >> No brickbats being thrown by me, but I don't think that's a good comparison. You'd probably have to say pre 1958, which is when her vocal problems began. This is when Callas started her highly publicized affair with Onassis, and little by little, stopped studying and singing. Her performances became fewer and far between - and like an athlete, you lose it, if you don't keep in shape. Regardless, her interpretations were even deeper, even if her voice couldn't handle the pressure anymore. She didn't sing at all between 1965, and when she returned for that last tour in 73/74, so there was very little left of her voice at that point. Someone wrote of Callas, those that ride the tiger, never get off - and even in 73, she still gave everything she had, even though there wasn't much left to give it with. To keep this on topic, Joni's voice just became deeper, like most voices do with age. She didn't get a big wobble in her voice, and was never a loud singer to begin with. - - Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:45:54 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Don Alias this from Don's website....... Wake to be held on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 4:00-8:00 PM Benta's Funeral Home 630 St. Nicholas Avenue at West 141st Street Harlem, New York City 212-281-8850 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:55:21 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item I would have to say the photo(taken by David Mingus) of Joni holding the stuffed tiger and card that I gave her for her birthday. This is when I first reconnected with Joni and later joined the jmdl, went to Pazfest....the rest is history. It was definately a magical night. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 10:17:00 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Let's help out the Alias family if we can I just received this email from Gene Perla. Gene was the bassist who substituted for for the ailing Jaco Pastorious when Joni headlined the Playboy Jazz Fest at the Hollywood Bowl in L.A. on June 15, 1979 In lieu of sending flowers, the Alias family asks that donations be made to defray expenses. Please send to: Mrs. Violet Richardson-Alias 1380 University Avenue, 6F Bronx, NY 10452 see _www.donalias.com_ (http://www.donalias.com) thank you, rosie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:17:03 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Most Valuable Joni Item The outtake 16" x 20" B&W photo from "The Hissing of Summer Lawns", shot by Norman Seeff. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Most Valuable Joni Item Victor Johnson wrote: "I would have to say the photo(taken by David Mingus) of Joni holding the stuffed tiger and card that I gave her for her birthday." Hehe, stuffed tiger, that's a great gift, Victor! Would love to see that photo sometime! Love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1"/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:38:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Covers 75, the songs Here's the yousendit link for those interested in listening to Covers 75: http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LWL1FRGELYZ42XJX6A6AU74HN I apologize in that there is no 9/11 content, other than the fact that there is a track 9 and a track 11. Bob NP: Marc Copland, "Rainy Night House" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:52:33 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #95 I've gotta chime in on the top twenty one singers: Billie Holiday Joni Van Morrison - yes all his grunts and groans too Nina Simone Tom Waits Beth Orton Smokey Robinson Kaye Starr John Doe (especially on the Knitters album) King Sunny Ade Leonard Cohen (golden voice is it?) Allison Krauss Aretha Emmylou Phoebe Snow Hank Williams Etta James k d Al Green Eva Cassidy Bill Withers ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:49:19 -0800 (PST) From: dsknyc05 Subject: re: Top Voices Fascinating lists from everyone! I have just one name to add: Leontyne Price. Magnificent voice, my favorite Madame Butterfly (decided years ago based on comparing all recorded versions owned by my opera fanatic neighbor). Beautiful beautiful voice! Rich and warm and, for an opera singer, extremely pleasing. Time to hook up the turntable and listen to her again. Madame Butterfly, Porgy and Bess, Barber's Knoxville... The only singer I've ever said, "stop! I hate that!" about is Rosemary Clooney. I know, weird, huh? There's something spooky to me about her singing, like she doesn't have any insides or something. Good thing I haven't had to hear her often. And Joni as a singer? I've been trying to figure out if she's a great singer or if I just think she's a great singer because I love her songs so much. I don't know. Her voice and her songs are so intertwined I can't figure it out. One thing I do know is that I can't listen to Joni's recent voice, not because it's lower (that's nice) but because she doesn't have the lung power to get out the phrases, and her compensating by chopping formerly long phrases into little bits doesn't appeal to me. I know emphysema when I hear it, and I choose not to hear it. Debra Shea, in NYC Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 00:48:37 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: Top 10, no top 20 hi so - i pulled all the digests as some bright spark (hi bob - thanks for voluime 75!!) suggested there were 786 votes, consisting of 410 different artists, of whom 206 were male, 181 were female, 1 was grace jones & the others were unknown to me. surprisingly - joni came in first with 32 votes?!?!?!?! then there were the following: 12 votes - 1 artist 10 votes - 1 artist 9 votes - 2 artists 8 votes - 7 artists 7 votes - 4 artists 6 votes - 7 artists 5 votes - 12 artists 4 votes - 13 artists 3 votes - 30 artists 2 votes - 55 artists 1 vote - 278 artists detailed results are: joni mitchell - 32 Stevie Wonder - 12 Ella fitzgerald - 10 frank sinatra - 9 Janis joplin - 9 billie Holiday - 8 Bob dylan - 8 Eva cassidy - 8 james taylor - 8 Judy collins - 8 Judy garland - 8 Rickie Lee Jones - 8 laura nyro - 7 Paul simon - 7 Tom waits - 7 Van morrison - 7 al Green - 6 Aretha franklin - 6 Elton John - 6 emmylou harris - 6 Jeff Buckley - 6 marvin Gaye - 6 Neil young - 6 Art garfunkel - 5 Bonnie raitt - 5 Bruce springsteen - 5 david Bowie - 5 David crosby - 5 Karen carpenter - 5 Kd lang - 5 nina Simone - 5 Phoebe snow - 5 Sarah vaughan - 5 Smokey Robinson - 5 Stevie nicks - 5 Bette midler - 4 David sylvian - 4 Donald fagen - 4 Jane Siberry - 4 John lennon - 4 kate bush - 4 Luther vandross - 4 Nick Drake - 4 Robert plant - 4 Roseanne cash - 4 sade - 4 shawn colvin - 4 Todd rundgren - 4 Alison krauss - 3 andy partridge - 3 Ani difranco - 3 Annie lennox - 3 barbra streisand - 3 Bill Withers - 3 Bob marley - 3 Bono - 3 Carole king - 3 Christine mcvie - 3 Dave matthews - 3 dinah Washington - 3 Dusty springfield - 3 Graham nash - 3 Jackson Browne - 3 Janis ian - 3 Joan baez - 3 Johnny cash - 3 Jon anderson - 3 Kate bennet - 3 Maddy prior - 3 Michael McDonald - 3 natalie Merchant - 3 Patsy cline - 3 Paul mccartney - 3 Sam cooke - 3 Sandy denny - 3 Sarah mclachlan - 3 Stephen stills - 3 Tori amos - 3 aaron Neville - 2 Al jarreau - 2 Ann wilson - 2 Ben harper - 2 Beth gibbons - 2 Beth orton - 2 Betty Carter - 2 Bjork - 2 Caetano Veloso - 2 Carly simon - 2 Cassandra wilson - 2 Cat stevens - 2 chrissie hynde - 2 Curtis mayfield - 2 Damien Rice - 2 Diana Krall - 2 Edith piaf - 2 Etta James - 2 freddie Mercury - 2 Gillian welch - 2 Gladys Knight - 2 Grace slick - 2 Harry nilsson - 2 Ian anderson - 2 Jim morrison - 2 Jimi hendrix - 2 Johnny hartman - 2 Julia fordham - 2 June tabor - 2 Karla bonoff - 2 Leonard cohen - 2 loreena McKennitt - 2 Lucinda williams - 2 Mahalia jackson - 2 Maria callas - 2 Maynard james keenan - 2 Michael franks - 2 Michael stipe - 2 Nat king cole - 2 Peter Gabriele - 2 Prince - 2 Ray charles - 2 Roberta Flack - 2 Rosemary clooney - 2 Roy orbison - 2 Seal - 2 sheila chandra - 2 Sherrelle Cary Smith - 2 Stan rogers - 2 Stevie winwood - 2 Tim buckley - 2 Toni childs - 2 Tracy Chapman - 2 Ute lemper - 2 Wilson Pickett - 2 Aengus finnan - 1 Agnetha faltskog - 1 Aimee mann - 1 Alicia keys - 1 Alison moyet - 1 Andrea Marcovicci - 1 Anita Baker - 1 Anna Moffo - 1 Annie herring - 1 Annie ross - 1 Arlo guthrie - 1 Barbara cook - 1 Barbara mandrell - 1 Barrie White - 1 Basia - 1 BB King - 1 Beck - 1 Bessie smith - 1 Betty buckley - 1 Bill Champlin - 1 Bing crosby - 1 Bob dorough - 1 Bob welch - 1 Bobby bandiera - 1 Bobby Caldwell - 1 Bobby mcferrin - 1 Bon scott - 1 Bonnie Hayes - 1 Boz scaggs - 1 Brendan perry - 1 Brian McKnight - 1 Brian wilson - 1 Bruce cockburn - 1 Bruce dickinson - 1 Bruce frank - 1 Bryan ferry - 1 Buddy holly - 1 Byron stingily - 1 Cab calloway - 1 Candi staton - 1 Cara luft - 1 Carl wilson - 1 Carmen mcrae - 1 Caron wheeler - 1 Chaka khan - 1 Cher - 1 Cheryl Bentyne - 1 Cheryl lynn - 1 Chris Issac - 1 Christina Friis - 1 Christine collister - 1 Claudia sansoucie - 1 Cocteau twins - 1 Colin moulding - 1 Crystal waters - 1 Daniel roy - 1 Danny kirwan - 1 Darryl hall - 1 Dave frishberg - 1 Dave gilmour - 1 Dave lambert - 1 Dave Mason - 1 David bridie - 1 David byrne - 1 David grey - 1 David surkamp - 1 Deana carter - 1 Deb talan - 1 Deborah conway - 1 Diamanda Galas - 1 Dianne reeves - 1 Dionne warwick - 1 Donna summer - 1 Donny Hathaway - 1 Dory previn - 1 Eagle & hawk - 1 Eddi reader - 1 Eddie hinton - 1 Eddie vedder - 1 Edie Brickell - 1 Eleanor mcevoy - 1 Elliott Smith - 1 Elvis Costello - 1 Enya - 1 Eric Clapton - 1 Ethel Waters - 1 Fiona apple - 1 Frank orral - 1 Frank zappa - 1 Frankie Beverly - 1 Garnet rogers - 1 Geddy lee - 1 Genesis - 1 George benson - 1 George harrison - 1 George michael - 1 Gino vannelli - 1 Giselle hawkins - 1 Giuseppe di Stefano - 1 Gordon lightfoot - 1 Grace jones - 1 Greg lake - 1 Gregg cagno - 1 Hank williams - 1 Happy rhodes - 1 Harold Melvin - 1 Henry Butler - 1 Holly Cole - 1 Imogen heap - 1 Indina menzel - 1 Israel Kamakawi'ole - 1 Issac Hayes - 1 Jack bruce - 1 Jack johnson - 1 Jack Nielsen - 1 Jacob moon - 1 Jane olivor - 1 Janet jackson - 1 Janis siegel - 1 Jenny Goodspeed - 1 Jenny lewis - 1 Jerry garcia - 1 Jim Croce - 1 Jimmy buffet - 1 Jimmy scott - 1 Jimmy Webb - 1 Joan armatrading - 1 Joanie Sommers - 1 Joe walsh - 1 John denver - 1 John doe - 1 John farnham - 1 John lee hooker - 1 John lydon - 1 John Mayer - 1 John mcvie - 1 John mellencamp - 1 John pizzarelli - 1 John wetton - 1 Johnny mathis - 1 Jon hendricks - 1 Jonatha brooke - 1 Jorge drexler - 1 Jussi bjorling - 1 Karen Peris - 1 Karin Bergquist - 1 Karrin Allyson - 1 Katie noonan - 1 Kay Ashley - 1 Kaye starr - 1 Keith & renee - 1 Kenny Loggins - 1 Kenny Rankin - 1 Kim richey - 1 King sunny ade - 1 Kings of convenience - 1 Kurt cobain - 1 Kurt Elling - 1 Lady miss kier - 1 Lani Hall - 1 Laurel Masse - 1 Leah kunkel - 1 Lena horne - 1 Lenny kravitz - 1 Leslie Feist - 1 Levi stubbs - 1 Levon helm - 1 Liam McKahey - 1 Linda ronstadt - 1 Lisa Moscatiello - 1 Lisa stansfield - 1 Lisa winn - 1 Liz Fraser - 1 Louis armstrong - 1 Lulu - 1 Macy Gray - 1 Manhattan Transfer - 1 Marc jordan - 1 Margaret becker - 1 Margo timmins - 1 Marianne faithfull - 1 Mark reeves - 1 Martha wash - 1 Mary black - 1 Mary chapin carpenter - 1 Mary coughlan - 1 Mary j blige - 1 Mary Margaret O'Hara - 1 Matilde santing - 1 Maureen mcgovern - 1 Melanie - 1 Melissa manchester - 1 Michael crawford - 1 Michael Jackson - 1 Michael martin murphy - 1 Michael Ruff - 1 Michel normandeau - 1 Michelle shocked - 1 Mick fleetwood - 1 Milton nascimento - 1 Minnie ripperton - 1 Missy higgins - 1 Monica schroeder - 1 Morrissey - 1 Murray pulver - 1 N'dea davenport - 1 Nanci griffith - 1 Neil finn - 1 Nils lofgren - 1 Nnenna Freelon - 1 Olivia newton-john - 1 Otis Redding - 1 Ozzy osbourne - 1 Patti austin - 1 Patti cathcart - 1 Patty griffin - 1 Paul buchanan - 1 Paul kelly - 1 Paul weller - 1 Pauline henry - 1 Peggy van zalm - 1 Pete townshend - 1 Procol harum - 1 Ray davies - 1 Ray LaMontagne - 1 Reba mcentire - 1 Renata scotto - 1 Renee geyer - 1 Richard Bliwas - 1 Richard bona - 1 Richard hawley - 1 Richard manuel - 1 Rick astley - 1 Rick danko - 1 Robert hunter - 1 Robert Johnson - 1 Robert owens - 1 Roger mcguinn - 1 ronnie milsap - 1 Rory block - 1 Sam moore - 1 Sarah Ellyson - 1 Sass jordan - 1 Seu Jorge - 1 Sheila Jordan - 1 Sinead o connor - 1 Skip James - 1 Spirit - 1 Steve perry - 1 Steve tyler - 1 Steven Santoro - 1 Stevie ray vaughn - 1 Sting - 1 Susanna hoffs - 1 Suzanne Vega - 1 Sylvester - 1 Tanita tikaram - 1 Taye diggs - 1 Teri thornton - 1 Terry roche - 1 The scorpions - 1 Tift merrit - 1 Tina turner - 1 Tom johnston - 1 Tom petty - 1 Tracey thorn - 1 Ultra nati - 1 Victor johnson - 1 Vince gill - 1 Walter becker - 1 Waltraud Meier - 1 Whitney Houston - 1 Will porter - 1 Woody guthrie - 1 Xavier rudd - 1 Youssou n'dour - 1 ron ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #97 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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