From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #81 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, March 19 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 081 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Half-assed update from Walt [littlebreen@comcast.net] RE: Chieftains CD ["mike pritchard" ] Joni and Mariah and Rosanne Cash too [Patti Witten ] Re: Post Hejira faves [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Rosanne Cash (and a little Joni) ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: Joni cover mention on NPR [Bob Muller ] Vienna Teng collaborating with Larry Klein - vljc [Catherine McKay ] A beautiful dream ["Charlotte Nielsen" ] my joni dream [vince ] Re: Joni & Cheech & Chong & you know.... ["Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: Chieftains CD >>Some of the other featured women are Loreena McKennitt, Diana Krall, Joan Osborne, Mary Chapin Carpenter, The Corrs, and Natalie Merchant.<< I usually like Diana Krall, in small doses, but I think her version of Danny Boy is the worse I've ever heard, amateur or professional, and I've heard quite a few. As it's the last track I remove the CD when she begins to sing. The other women on the CD do a fine job, esp Bonnie Raitt. mike o'richard in bcn np Lee Konitz - A different shade of blue ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 06:58:13 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Joni and Mariah and Rosanne Cash too Rob wrote: > Of course, as I've said before, my favorite singer now behind Joni and Stevie > has to be Rosanne Cash, I am privileged to know her a little, since having been twice invited to her workshop, "The Essence of Songwriting." She changed my life, truly. ROT (unfortunate acronym) was amazing ("September When It Comes" is the pinnacle for me) and Black Cadillac, the newest, is, as she promised, an album of songs about death -- but not all sad. Just thinking about her recent burdens gives me chills. After my own losses I'm comforted by hearing and sharing grief and transformation in songs. "The World Unseen" is my favorite from her new album. BTW I just got an email forward from Walt Breen about the aftermath of Robert's death. I know some of you are sending him notes and lilac sprays, and I'm sure he appreciates it. xo Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts Hey there, Joni Digest Family! Happy Saturday to all...and a happy Sunday as well. I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: (obviously not all Diva's) Joan Baez Barbara Sreisand Cher Gloria Estafan Very Early Whitney Judy Collins Do not very Diva count? If so: Suzanne Vega (early) The Story Jonatha Brooks Bonnie Raitt Carley Simon India Arie Tina Arena Anna Nalick Dido Too many already Post Hejira Favorites: "How Do You Stop" "Last Chance Lost" "The Magdalene Laundries" "Borderline" Every cut on "Songs Of A Prairie Girl" (yep, know this isn't post Hejira) "The Reocurring Dream" "Lacota" "Man From Mars" There's more and more and more...wanted to say, though, that regardless of who shows up on my Delicious Diva List, there is not one soul that even comes close to Joni's calibar, creativity, originality...and that list goes on for Miles of Isles. Growing up on Motown I love the classic groups...and LOVE to dance!!!! I like Craig Davis a lot...he's relatively new. And I love opera, classical, jazz....pretty much all music. Always interested in learning about an older or newer artist....can you believe...don't ban me from the list!!!!...I like some of Pink?????? Oh...Dory Previn, Carol Bayer Sager, Carol King... so many!!!! Change..... I've been thinking about how many of our family have recently experienced the loss of a parent....I guess because my dad died on March 24, '81, this would be on my mind. I wrote to Marianne and Paz...there's a quote that helps in many ways: "In Memory Is Life's Reason" (can't remember the author). In our world there's so much to be so very sad about....but there's the flip side too. I try to give the gorgeous side as much thought. Can some of you share with me some of your favorite authors and the top three books you've adored. Mine are: "Love In The Time Of Cholera"...Gabriel Garcia Marquez "She's Come Undone" Wally Lamb "Man's Search For Meaning"...Dr. Viktor Frankl Then there's Tolstoy...some contemporary authors...Alice Hoffman, Barbara Kingsolver, Ethan Canin (especially, "Emperor Of The Air", Milan Kundera, Marry Morris (especially "Nothing To Declare")...too many to list!!!!!!! Wonder what this weekend will bring to each of us? Wonder what we'll give to this weekend? Toeach and all...a delightfully delicious weekend! With love from Bo - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:43:25 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Post Hejira faves -- the Chieftains >>Here's a fun fact: St. Patrick was Welsh, just like Mike from Barcelona, only born 1700 years earlier. << O'Smurf Close, but no cigar. When I was born Churchill was the British Prime Minister, and the US President was probably Eisenhower. mike in bcn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:49:37 -0800 From: "Russell Bowden" Subject: Post Hejira Faves Gang, How about one song from each post-H studio album? Don Juan's Reckless Daughter God Must Be a Boogie Man Be Cool Shiny Toys My Secret Place Two Grey Rooms Sire of Sorrow Harlem in Havana And those are just off the top of my punkin haid. Love, Russ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:47:45 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Post Hejira faves Thought I'd chime in on this thread.... With my ipod on shuffle recently the Travelogue version of Borderline came on and I was blown away by the poignancy of the lyrics and timeliness of the concepts within. And yet the song never struck me particularly before from the NRH album. Although I won't claim it as my #1 post Hejira fave it's among my top 5 now and it has proven to me again that arrangement, mix, tempo and production have everything to do with how a song comes across to the listener. Same thing happened with Eva Cassidy's vesrion of the moldy oldy Autumn Leaves. I invite anyone else to revisit Borderline on Travelogue and see what I mean... p.s Robin and I just added Down to You and Dreamland to our show. Dreamland is a blast to play with multiple percussionists and Down to You took me days to transcribe for our pianist Barnaby Finch. I wrote a composite score reduction of the piano and orchestral arrangement of Down to You to be playable by piano alone. I will offer it to the transcriptions section of jonimitchell.com once I've fine tuned the chart but I can also send a pdf of it to any piano playing listers who are interested in studying/playing this piece. Dave Blackburn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:12:19 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Rosanne Cash (and a little Joni) On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:02:32 EST LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Wow... "to be herself"... that's for sure. Just like >her father was totally > himself, wink. Lol! Read back to me, that does sound funny. However, record labels would much rather someone like Rosanne or Joni play a part--act a certain role that they can market--rather than express themselves. I'll throw in here that while I love Black Cadillac, my favorite is still Interiors, followed by The Wheel. Both deal heavily with her breakup with Rodney Crowell ... some real Joni territory (in themes, not music, really). Like Blue and H, a feeling of the music as therapy for performer and listener. I think RoT was a great song, as was September When it Comes (although I have an earlier version w/out Johnny that I prefer), but that album was a bit too pop (for lack of a better word) for my personal tastes. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:08:16 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peep Richman" > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: (obviously not > all Diva's) Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I would also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? Mark E, Dusty fanatic PS: Bo, I owe you an email that is long overdue PPS: I also want to thank everybody for their kind words over the last 2 or 3 weeks. I have been thinking about writing more about this as there are lots of things going on in my head and heart right now. PPPS: I'm glad Walt checked in and my heart goes out to him. I've been where he is and it's a dark, dark place. Sometimes the light can be so hard to find and this is one time in a life when you begin to think it's gone. But it is still there, Walt. Just give yourself time and try to be kind to yourself. Keep those around you who love you and understand and they will help you. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts lol, yes it obviously differs from person to person, because to me Baez is (refreshingly) not a diva. I sense punishment coming on, but that's ok - maybe I need it. Em :) - --- Mark Scott wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peep Richman" > > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: > (obviously not > > all Diva's) > > > Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I > would > also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Diva's & probably some other Saturday thoughts Well since I started this whole Mariah thing, I'll confess that once I hit send with my list I realized Dusty should have been in the top five, at least. She is without peer at a purely pop artist of her, or any, time. Jerry Em wrote: > lol, yes it obviously differs from person to person, because to me Baez > is (refreshingly) not a diva. > I sense punishment coming on, but that's ok - maybe I need it. > Em > :) > > --- Mark Scott wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peep Richman" >> > I've enjoyed developing my Devine Diva List...here goes: >> (obviously not >> > all Diva's) >> >> >> Ok, I would like to know what everyone's definition of a diva is. I >> would >> also like to know why NOBODY has mentioned Dusty Springfield??? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:46:28 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: Joni cover mention on NPR I was just listening to NPR and they were featuring Portuguese fado singer, Cristina Branco's new album, Ulysses. They said the theme was "wandering or roaming," and that there was a Joni cover on it. Of course I assumed it would be something from Hejira, but I looked it up and it's yet another cover of A Case Of You. There is no audio clip on Amazon, but I found one on Barnes and Noble: http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?z=y&EAN=602498208984&ITM=1 Kerry - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:44:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni cover mention on NPR The operative word being "new"...Cristina's album came out mid-last year - her cover of ACOY is pretty sweet. It was featured on Volume 69. Broadway star Julia Murney (Wicked) will have another cover of ACOY on her release, coming out next month. Bob, covered up with covers yet never satisfied NP: NPR's All songs Considered, which features a Furry Lewis tune - synchro. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:16:49 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Vienna Teng collaborating with Larry Klein - vljc Hey, all. I got this e-mail from the Vienna Teng group. There's a wee Joni-connection: "Exciting news: Vienna has signed with Zoe/Rounder Records! With the independent label's long history of successes,reputation for artistic freedom, and a roster that includes Duncan Sheik,Kathleen Edwards, Sarah Harmer and the Cowboy Junkies, it looks like Vienna's forthcoming releases are in very good hands. "http://www.rounder.com "Currently she's in the studio with producer Larry Klein (also a film composer, renowned bass player, and longtime Joni Mitchell collaborator), recording her third album and Zoe debut, tentatively titled "Dreaming Through The Noise." Release date and other details will be posted soon as we know them. "A big THANK YOU to all of you for supporting Vienna's music and making this possible. You came to listen at coffeehouses and living rooms and street corners; you told friends to listen to this song you found; you believed in an artist even if she wasn't all over the radio and the magazine rack. Really and truly, we couldn't have gotten here without you. "An equally big THANK YOU to Virt Records for their tireless work on the first two albums -- it's been an amazing journey these past four years. "And congratulations on their great new bands, Ellery and The Bittersweets! *** "Solo performances this spring: "4/29 Annapolis MD 4/30 Washington DC 5/04 Birmingham AL 5/06 Atlanta GA 5/09 Houston TX 5/10 Austin TX 5/11 La Grange TX 5/12 Dallas TX "Check http://www.viennateng.com/tour for details and to purchase tickets. "Friends in Europe: tour dates are in the works for early summer!" Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:41:05 -0800 (PST) From: Kerry Subject: Re: Joni cover mention on NPR Oops. I thought I had a scoop.... Bob Muller wrote: The operative word being "new"...Cristina's album came out mid-last year - her cover of ACOY is pretty sweet. It was featured on Volume 69. Broadway star Julia Murney (Wicked) will have another cover of ACOY on her release, coming out next month. Bob, covered up with covers yet never satisfied NP: NPR's All songs Considered, which features a Furry Lewis tune - synchro. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 04:39:56 +0100 From: "Charlotte Nielsen" Subject: A beautiful dream In 1999 I bought the albumTeras Of Stone with the Irish folk group The Chietains. The music was great I cry very much my mother was died an year before, Inside of the cover I saw a blondhaired woman with lovely and warm smile and a cigarette in her hand. In the beginn I thought was anoyher singer Mary Chapin Carpenter I looked in a book and I saw Mary and I were nearly same age, So I beginn to dream about we got married and we life together in Denmark, Eurpe where I life and I should learn Mary the language Of me and she was the must intelligent woman in my life (Only a Royal Air Force General from Secondworldwar was higher). But yesterday I asked by Mary Chapin Carpenter List, who she is and they answered me JONI MITCHELL, WAUH so I take the book She4s born in 1943 she4s to old she could be my mother so today I4m sad, but I see at Joni homepage she4s an artist, painter too, so Maybe will we Meet each other there one day and we say hallo can we be friends. I know I4m a hopeless dreamer. Today I hope Joni Mitchell is still going strong, that must must important I think? Charlotte ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 01:14:05 -0500 From: vince Subject: my joni dream we are watching American Idol at her house and Jerry is making crepes in the kitchen while Joni sings along with a contestant's version of My Funny Valentine. Joni gives the finger to Simon just as Patti descends from the second level, and asks Joni to change the channel on the tv. Joni says in canadian, you cann, which makes Patti jump for joy saying "Joni loves UCONN, Joni Loves UCONN!" while she flips on the NCAAs. Joni pulls a Peter Townsend and smashes a guitar, screaming changes the channel back to American Idol, and shouts, "I don't love UCONN, I am a Michigan fan." Bob comes out from under the covers and says "Tarheels." Joni stomps her foot and says "Michigan! Michigan." Jerry comes in from the kitchen with blueberry crepes Joni requested and says, My diva, you will crush sensitive Jimmy, the Florida fan" and tosses the crepes on the table. And Jerry says, "why blueberry anyway." Patti is petting Joni's dog saying, "why aren't you a husky, my dear" and dialing the emergency number in Storrs for a breed transplant. Joni whirls about the middle of the table and says, "the crepes are blueberry because I love blue. Don't you get it? The Blue album? Michigan! Go Blue!" and Joni picks up a new guitar and sings Hail! to the Victors Valiant!" with tunings never heard before. Jerry says, "but why Michigan" while he repositions his chef's hat at the chic rakish angle to get the attention of the pool boy angel. Joni says, "I got my start there! Michigan!" and she starts to sing, "I am on a lonely road and I am traveling, looking for the key to set me free, what will it be? Oh the Wolverines, Ann Arbor is the gathering, the gathering and it creates all the joy that could be..." Jimmy arrives riding on the shoulders of Katherine Harris, and says, "but not my Gators? My Gators are in the NCAAs and your Wolverines are only in the NIT." Joni regally puffs on her cigarette and exhales Marlene Dietrich style and says, slowly, emphatically, "Number 1 seed in the NIT, and get that bitch out of my house." Suddenly Lori Fye vaults into the middle of the room on her Harley. Patti says, "Lori, I love the leather." Bob asks, "can I try it on?" and as he does, he starts singing Britney Spears' "Hit Me Baby One More Time...". Simon leaps out of the tv, grabs Bob, and says, "Paula is hot for you, she wants you to cover Pat Benetar's 'Hit me with your best shot' while you wear that leather." Bob jumps for joy and into the tv and was last seen promising to devote his life to Paula Abdul covers if only Ryan Seacrist will give Bob hair styling tips. Joni looks at the mess in the hose and asks Lori to fly her to Detroit on the magic Harley. "Why Detroit" everyone asks and Joni does a long inhale, a long exhale, and says. "gotta get to my trouble man, my homey, my boy." Every draws back; has she forgotten Marvin Gaye is long dead? But Em comes out of the kitchen in a tuxedo and starts passing out engraved cards to each of us that read: Bruce and Bonnie Mathers and Myrtle Mitchell invite you to the upcoming recording session between Joni Mitchell and Eminem Together at last. Yes, the lady is going home to her home boy. Joni laughs and says, "I haven't been painting all this time, I've been working on my beats, you thought Wild Dogs was a crazy album, that Mingus explored new territory, well, I am taking music in a new direction. And she began to rap 8 Mile: Sometimes I just feel like, quittin I still might Why do I put up this fight, why do I still write Sometimes it's hard enough just dealin with real life Sometimes I wanna jump on stage and just kill mics And show these people what my level of skill's like But I'm still white, sometimes I just hate life Somethin ain't right, hit the brake lights Case of the stage fright, drawin a blank like Da-duh-duh-da-da, it ain't my fault Great then I falls, my insides crawl and I clam up (wham) I just slam shut Every one was stunned. Eminem's lyrics were Joni's real feelings! A soul mate connection had been made over at iSongs! Joni continued rapping Man fuck this shit yo, I'm goin the fuck home World on my shoulders as I run back to this 8 Mile Road Em smiled and whispered in my ear that it was Joni who taught him it was ok to say "fuck" on a record but Joni gave us the evil shut up and listen look and on she went... Time for me to just stand up, and travel new land Time for me to just take matters into my own hands Once I'm over these tracks man I'ma never look back (8 Mile Road) And I'm gone, I know right where I'm goin Sorry momma I'm grown, I must travel alone ain't gon' follow the footsteps I'm making my own Only way that I know how to escape from this 8 Mile Road Now Patti was rocking out, having forgotten all about basketball, as she started laying down some beats at the studio we were suddenly magically in. She is now DJ P Conn, and Dre is signing her to a contract and giving her Ne-Yo's private cell number so she can arrange a collaboration between Ne-Yo and Joni (Patti already lined up a Joni-Ludicris duet, and one with Kanye West as well), Em's daughter sits on my lap and we sing Mockingbird together and she tells Jerry that he made the best blueberry crepes ever. Paz walks in, with Smurf, and Lil John offers them each a Vernor's Ginger Ale. They smile. Pure contentment. Jerry wanders up and down the hall looking for Mary J. Blige but she won't talk to Jerry because he left her off the diva list he made. Suddenly Em sees my Sox tattoos and says, "what's that" and I point at his Tigers tat and say "hey, what's that" and we laugh and embrace as brothers, no, more than brothers because Em hires to be chaplain on the next Anger Management Tour! I jumped for joy and that's when I hit my head on the ceiling and woke up. Oh, sweet dreams are made of this - who are you to disagree - Vince ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 06:22:09 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Joni & Cheech & Chong & you know.... SCJoniguy wrote: >Which was by Cheech & Chong, who also appear on >Court & Spark (Twisted, floop shooby, flip city), >so even talking basketball, it all comes back to >Joni! I didn't know that (about Cheech & Chong). Thanks, Bob! You are a treasure trove of Joni information. I just got home from searching for a Heart of Gold tonight in New Haven. And I found it! Great movie/concert/love experience. And the last bit of text of the screen (I won't give it away for those who haven't seen it), his dedication, ripped my heart out. Keep on rockin' in the free world, Neil and Pegi and Emmylou and friends! Beautiful. And your Court & Spark mention could not not have been more timely. I saw Joni at Woolsey Hall on the Yale campus in New Haven, winter 1974, when C & S was just released. Gee, I was so young then (a sophomore in college). I wish I could remember more details of the concert to share with you all. I do remember that it was magical and intimate and that she played the piano and that we snuck in a bottle of Mateus (anyone remember that wine from the 70s?) in my oversized orange hippie embroidered pocketbook with all the little mirrors on it and that her encore was "Twisted". The album was so new then that we didn't even know the song. Imaginez-vous! In any case (of you), driving through New Haven tonight in my Space Buggy, totally lost after the movie (New Haven has all these one-way streets -- it's a crazy floop shooby, flip city), my wonderful date said: "I think that's Woolsey Hall." "What?????", I cried. He said: "What's the matter?" I said: "That is sacred ground! I saw Joni there!" So we *had* to drive around the crazy blocks a few times so I could see it again. I wanted to get out and kiss the ground but kept my composure (sort of). I just sent up a silent Joni prayer. Oh, to see Joni at Woolsey Hall again! I feel like, given my youthful state, I just did not appreciate it enough at the time. Not like I would now, anyway. "Don't it always seem to go...." And yes, Bob, of course: "even talking basketball, it all comes back to Joni." Voila! Exactement! Although in more appropriate Joni-lingo, one should say "it all comes *down* to Joni." Love, Patti P., fading in a suburban room at 1 a..m. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #81 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)