From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #76 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 14 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 076 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Broken link: siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm [Patti Witten ] From Personal Experience ["Cassy" ] Re: Sad news ["Sherelle Smith" ] Joni and Mariah [Jerry Notaro ] 5:12Pm thoughts [Peep Richman ] South by Southwest Music Festival [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni open Mic night [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni and Mariah [Randy Remote ] the amazing JMDL, sjc [LCStanley7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:55:40 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: Broken link: siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org wrote: > Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) Yes, she is. But this link needs to be updated. It's at the bottom of the list digests. In other news, Sue McNamara and I will be hosting another Only Joni Open Mic, this time during the day, in a student union building on Cornell University campus in Ithaca NY on Wed. April 5. Sue's all excited (as she should be) cuz she gets to use her new @jonimitchell.com email address in the publicity. How cool is that? Viva la Joan! Mmmwha! Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:45:07 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Oh man, too much to catch up on . . . . . . In my post, the only reason I referred to "my generation" is to zero in on a countable quantity. Demograhics, I guess you could say. I, myself, am actually a bit too young to have been part of the 60's thing. I was only 10 when the year turned to 1970. But demographically am still in that "baby boom". So in that post, I was only referring to the huge numbers of people around my age, and not alluding to any greatness of any other kind. At least not this time! I always did look up to the crop of artists (all kinds of artists) who are about 15 years older than myself though, who were already young adults as the 60's went by. Anyway, your generation is REALLY gonna resent the heck out of some of the boomers when we are sooooooooo messed up and old and have no money we can barely move, and there are trillions of us. I'm sure by that time we will have figured out something. Some new "ultimate solution". Anyway, I'm pretty sure that whatever post of mine you are talking about, this time anyway, I only meant to refer to my gen. in a demographic sense - and not in a "look at us we were so groovy" sense. Cuz I was not there for the actual 60's grooviness, was just watching it through the eyes of a child. But demographically I am still in with that "generation" - altho really, the boomers encompass more than one generation. I think an early boomer could have given birth to a late boomer. Thats just my take. Sorry you are resentful. Em - --- Snapple1984@aol.com wrote: > Em, as regards "your generation" - I'm not sure what generation that > is > exactly, but many of the songs I write are about the relationship > between the > baby boomer generation and my own, > yet-to-be-named-born-in-1985-generation. I > think many people of my generation feel a certain resentment towards > the > children of the 60s because they often tend to act like their > generation was the > best and most influential ever. Of course, they lived in the shadow > of "The > Greatest Generation" - those of the Depression and World War II. As > I am > writing this, "Fiddle and the Drum" is playing - just by chance. I > know so many > people who protested th Vietnam War who seem to just protest for the > sake of > protesting. I believe that if America can create any kind of > change, the > baby boomer generation and my generation must stop being competitive > and work > together. Maybe that sounds namby-pamby, but I believe it's true. > Again, > I'm not saying the 60s and 70s didn't bring about many incredibly > important > changes, ch anges from which I myself have benefited, but sometimes > it seems > that generation must live in the present, not the 60s - and my > generation must > stop trying to prove themselves. Social activism and social justice > should > be about just that, not about image. I know this isn't what you > were talking > about, but the generational talk seemed appropriate. > > Peace and Love :) - Kira (the child of boomers) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: From Personal Experience Regarding the state of things in this country I feel I have to chime in. I came to this country in 1969, I was a teenager then and felt like I'd been dropped into a maelstrom. The Vietnam War was raging on Television, there were heavy protests and Kent State was only a year away. I'd dropped myself into the Jimi Hendrix experience and found Joni for the first time in my life. Time warp with me if you will. I became a U.S. Citizen because I developed a deep love of this country and believed that if I were going to live here and be governed by the laws of this country I should have a say (vote) in who would be doing the governing. I have yet to miss even the smallest of opportunities to vote since I have had the right, feeling that the smaller local elections tend to impact me the most (property taxes, millages, school board etc.). Fast forward again please to a dark time in my life. I suffered a stroke. I was at work one day, covered by health insurance, a single mother of one son, receving a weekly paycheck, and then the rug came out from underneath me. I was talking on the phone to a customer and began to slur my words then got completely confused and couldn't remember what I was doing or saying. My boss tapped me on the shoulder, took the phone from me, made some excuse to the client and called 911. The next thing I remember is being in hospital. The point is that my life changed drastically at that moment in time. I was unable to work, no paycheck, unable to afford the COBRA to keep my health insurance at a time I needed it most. I couldn't afford groceries let alone a mortgage payment. So... what about welfare? I went, in my wheelchair, down to the welfare office where there were reams and reams of paperwork to fill out. I was told that I had to go to the job-programs office and get work to qualify for benefits. The fact that I wasn't able to work complicated things, the end-result was that I qualified for $10 a week in food stamps and that I should go to the Social Security offices to apply for SSI. I applied for SSI and was told that it would be upwards of 6 months to process the paperwork but that if they determined my claim was valid I would receive back-benefits. In the mean time I still had nothing. Had it not been for my mother's generosity I would have lost my home. Friends brought meals, the local school turned my name in to GoodWill so that I could have Christmas for my son that year. I cannot think of a time in my life where things looked so bleak. My mother also picked up the COBRA payments so that I wouldn't have to forgo medical treatment. Charity is something I never thought *I* would need but I swallowed my pride for the sake of my child. I think back on those days and wonder what might have happened to us if I didn't have anyone to help me. I was extremely fortunate to have a mother in a position to come to my aid but had she not, my life would have gone much differently. I have suffered three strokes over the years since that time, one more devastating than the others. I remarried and divorced again (that's a whole other story) spent several months in rehab and a considerable amount of time in a wheelchair... I work hard not to let it be too visible or hold me back. As a single mother I live close to the edge. Savings are practically non-existent, I have managed to hold onto my home and am now covered medically through government programs. I have not completely regained my health but most people would not know that I have issues, my disabilities are not "visible" to those who don't know me well. The cost of my monthly prescriptions (those that keep me feeling well and able to function) totals $1,580.00. If I had to pay for those myself I would be dead. I am now in a better place, physically. I had been putting a little money aside and was able to go to the Joni Tribute in New York (still paying the credit card bill for that one!) but it will be a long time before I'm able to splurge like that again. I have some close friends who have helped me both emotionally and in more tangible ways and I feel very lucky. It took me a while to get back on my feet but I'm doing OK now. This country provided me the means to improve my, seemingly impossible, situation, Yes, it was a slow process but there is so much fraud they have to do a thorough job of weeding through the bullshit to help those in genuine need. I may not ever be wealthy and I do without things I'd like to have but if it weren't for programs in place in this country I wouldn't have made it this far. Warmly, Cassy NP: The Right Stuff - Bryan Ferry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:35:10 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Sad news Oh Geez!!! I'm so sorry to hear this Kakki!!! My dear Paz!!!Thank you so much for letting us know. I'm sorry, I took the NJC tag off just this once so everyone can know and keep Paz in their thoughts and prayers. So sorry to hear this! Sherelle Kakki wrote: I just learned that Michael Paz's father Juan has passed away. Michael had recently been to Honduras to see his dad and is leaving this weekend to return for the memorial. I know many of you will want to send him a note. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:38:39 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Joni and Mariah From the new Rolling Stone: 3Imagine my disbelief to see Mariah Carey on the cover. I can9t recall an artist who has recorded more dreck than her. Every time one of Mariah9s sixth-grade fans buys one of her records, it9s a slap in the face to true female artists such and Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Tina Turner, and Aretha Franklin.2 Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:52:55 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: 5:12Pm thoughts Just read the Digest (today's I think) and I have some thoughts, etc. to share. I can't wait to see "March of the Penguins"....soon. Thanks for the beautifully written, descriptive and insightful sentences, Bree. I DID see a movie yesterday...and hope you all will give some consideration to having this myriad of feelings experienced t as I watched. "Because Of Winn Dixie". A jewel. Kira, I am really a child of the 60's and found your thoughts so very stimulating. Oh how I agree: we MUST stop competing (ALL generations) and work together toward continued and consistent positive change. My father, who died on March 24, 1981, lived in "The Greatest Generation"...the mighty depression and the unmentionable horrors of World War 11. I never realized, until you wrote, Kira, that, indeed, I live in that generation's shadow. My father was a simple man; a man of so few possessions. Yet, after his death, my mother and I discovered, hidden deep within his closet, a huge oblong box of approximately 40 pairs of brand new, never worn shoes. Certainly this speaks to the immense poverty imprint of the Depression. My dad was a professional baseball player, signed by Connie Mack....I have the letter. He was a pitcher. He was shot in the left leg while serving in the Burmese Theater, and developed Osteomialitis (spelling?)...had his arm amputated...not in half...but he weathered a two inch scar that mirrored the tale of losing the majority of his bone and most of his right shoulder...the bone from the elbow up. He couldn't raise his right arm, his beloved pitching arm, above his waist, yet he maintained a 2 handicapp in his second beloved sport which was golf. His left arm doesn't do justice to the word 'power'. Upon reflection, there were some/many of the baby-boomers who appeared to protest for the sheer "enjoyment" of protesting. I wasn't one of them. I protested...attended every March....with Martin...oh what a memory...I was extremely serious. Yet, I gladly let my bra fly out the car window one afternoon, got caught in the feminist's exploration of their thoughts, and dare I say, complex feelings?! I tossed my birth-control pills off a cliff in Big Sur one August afternoon. Come to think of it, I have so many very, very complex feelings about my generation. Kira, you ignited my immediate exploration, that has been stagnant, I fear....and I thank you. WALMART: off and running into the wall of yet another subject. It's all in the art of manipulation and intimidation and the mighty mask of hope....false hope. I know several WalMart employees. The sun is beginning the setting journey. The bulbs are beginning to peek up through the hardened earth. The sun is changing positions. A hopeful time of year...another chance at our collective exploration into a rebirth. "Well I'm learning It's peaceful With a good dog and some trees Out of touch with the breakdown Of this century They're not going to fix it up Too easy" "We once loved-together And we floodlit that time Input-output-electricity" "She's not going to fix it up Too easy" Love vibes to all...to all generations...from Bo - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:10:07 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: South by Southwest Music Festival Hey now, Jonilistas... I fly out to Austin, TX at the crack o' dawn tomorrow to attend the huge SxSW music conference and showcase. I'll be there for a week. If anyone lives in the area and would like to take in a few shows or join me to break bread or have a drink or two, I've got tons of VIP performance and party passes to share! One party I've been invited to at SxSW may be of particular interest: A "Canadian Blast BBQ and Musical Sneak-Peak" hosted by Feldman & Associates...Joni's management. Performers there will be: Controller Controller, Wintersleep, Small Sins, The Illuminati and Uncut. I'm also going to parties put on by the United Kingdom and New Zealand consulates in Texas. I'll be seeing the following performances/interviews for sure: - -Neil Young (keynote speaker; interviewed by film director Jonathan Demme) - -Lyle Lovett - -The Pretenders - -Sonya Kitchell - -Sam Moore - -Judy Collins - -Morrisey - -Beastie Boys - -Kris Kristofferson ...and literally thousands of musical acts from around the world performing 24/7 during the conference Please join me if you're in the area and have time to hang. I'll hook you up! My cell phone # is 415-505-1679. I would love to see some of you! It will be fun to meet Sam, if he shows up... - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni open Mic night Hi Sue & Patti - I know this will be a great gig and I wish I could be there. You know of course that wherever a Joni song is covered, I am there in spirit. I'd love to hear how it went, who sang what, etc. Bob NP: AC/DC, "Shoot To Thrill" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:14:02 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni and Mariah - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" > From the new Rolling Stone: > > 3Imagine my disbelief to see Mariah Carey on the cover. I can9t recall an > artist who has recorded more dreck than her. Every time one of Mariah9s > sixth-grade fans buys one of her records, it9s a slap in the face to true > female artists such and Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Tina Turner, and > Aretha > Franklin.2 Mariah's not really female? Say it ain't so! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:30:24 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: the amazing JMDL, sjc - - --- Jerry wrote: > This list is amazing. As a University Librarian I > get bombarded by all > sorts of information from all sources, but this list > informs me more, and > more intelligently, than any of them. Smurf wrote: I second this thought. I am not a university librarian, but I am constantly reading stuff of all kinds, and this list informs me in ways other sources just do not. From the events surrounding September 11th to the post-Katrina situation to health care in other countries to happenings -- and music! Hi Ya'll, I third the motion of this notion. I see this list as very similar to Joni in that regard. Her songs are educational for me and thought provoking... just like this train, I mean this list. I appreciate all who are open-minded enough to participate. You know who you are. Love, Laura ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #76 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)