From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #72 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, March 10 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 072 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Wal-Mart ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Here's the cover of the new Ian Shaw Joni Tribute CD [Nuriel Tobias <] Re: Here's the cover of the new Ian Shaw Joni Tribute CD [Bob Muller ] Re: Subject: Re: Great Radio Morning ["Ruth Davis" ] Re: Judy's Seagulls Cover Photo [Jerry Notaro ] Sweet Sixteen Joni Sampler [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Our upcoming Joni tribute shows [Dave Blackburn ] Site [Jerry Notaro ] Site [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Great Radio Morning ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: If at first...Sweet 16, Volume 1...ready for download again [Brian Gr] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #71 [" janine sherman" ] Re: FW: Message re; River [Bob Muller ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #71 [Catherine McKay ] Re: FW: Message re; River [JRMCo1@aol.com] Ian Shaw Interview [seulbzzaj@aol.com] Re: Joni Dream [Smurf ] Re:The Human Jukebox [PassScribe@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:57:22 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: Re: Wal-Mart Steve wrote: They of course will undercut local doctors etc with the usual Wal-Mart game plan. Sell the prescriptions etc. - --If they can undercut anyone in the healthcare industry, good for them. I dont' know any local physicians that are reasonable and even the one back in the little bitty town charged $70 bucks just to walk in the door. Have no sympathy for any of the drs., hospitals, etc. and surely not for the frecking drug companies. Luckily I have a good health plan this month but that could change at any time and I do not look forward to going back to the uninsured game that so many of my friends, colleagues, and Americans are left with. If Wal-Mart can give those services to the poor folks, good for them. mack ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 01:14:46 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Here's the cover of the new Ian Shaw Joni Tribute CD That's a really a well taken photo. I liked the bad weather mood and the fact that Ian's sinking in the mud. Could it be Malibu? Love, Nuri Bob Muller wrote: http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05XPROZPILQ1A3EY8B7RD4H13J - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 03:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Here's the cover of the new Ian Shaw Joni Tribute CD Surely not, but I'm not sure. My guess is that it's somewhere in the UK. But I can find out, and I will. Bob NP: The Clash, "Wrong 'Em Boyo" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 03:40:02 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Judy's Seagulls Cover Photo I was wondering. I know this album cover of Judy C., i think it's her Best Of, where she's at the beach and playing with the seagulls hovering above her head. It always makes me think about Joni's own Seagull, maybe her strongets impression ever, and my question is - since i can't find out details - was Judy's photo taken as an homage to Joni's love to all flying things? To the seagulls? What's Joni's involvement in Judy's album cover, if at all? Thanks and love, Nuri - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:20:56 GMT From: "Ruth Davis" Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Great Radio Morning Hi, Bob! I hoped you might have heard something about this. Apparently some serious jazz musicians think Joni has jazz credibility, the reaction to Mingus notwithstanding. There is nothing like hearing a new Joni-related piece to brighten your day! Ruth - -- Bob Muller wrote: Not too many covers of that one yet, Ruth - a couple though...one is coming up on Volume 75 next month and it's ssssssmokin' good. Am not aware of any instrumental versions but I'm always on the prowl. Matter of fact, I found our first "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" cover today. Very exciting for me, which pretty much sums up what my life is like these days. Thanks for coming out of the shadows, always great to hear from you. Bob NP: Neil Young, "Without Rings" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:12:02 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Judy's Seagulls Cover Photo My guess would be it is a recreation of the scene from The Subject Was Roses, where Patricia Neal walks the beach with seagulls flying over head to Judy singing The Albatross from Wildflowers. Both the album and the movie were very popular at the time. Jerry > I was wondering. I know this album cover of Judy C., i think it's her Best Of, > where she's at the beach and playing with the seagulls hovering above her > head. It always makes me think about Joni's own Seagull, maybe her strongets > impression ever, and my question is - since i can't find out details - was > Judy's photo taken as an homage to Joni's love to all flying things? To the > seagulls? What's Joni's involvement in Judy's album cover, if at all? > > Thanks and love, > > Nuri > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:56:01 -0500 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: Sweet Sixteen Joni Sampler ============================================ Hi Stewart. My favourite Joni covers are: Sara McLachlan - Blue, Laurent Cugny - Man From Mars Cris Wiiliamson and Holly Near - The Tea Leaf Prophecy George Michael - Edith and The Kingpin Bonnie Raitt - That Song About The Midway Gary Zack - Winter Lady kind of like spitting - The Last Time I Saw Richard Brian Kennedy - A Case of You Wilson Phillips - California Natalie Merchant - All I Want Judd Grossman - Carey There are are so many that I'm putting together my own compilation. Really Interesting List Mark - thanks. Bonnie Raitt's version of Midway seems to be a favorite of several others as well. I have never heard Spittings version of Last Time I saw Richard (for that matter, I have never heard of Kind of Like Spitting)? Any idea where I can locate it? Generally it takes me a while to warm up to Joni covers since they never do seem to convey the same "stuff" as Joni but more recently, I really have started to enjoy them. If you haven't heard KD Lang's version of Jericho I really recommend it.....Stewart - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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The show list is a pdf file so I'm hoping it will appear as such in this post but if it doesn't I'll find out tomorrow morning and repost with the info in the email itself, formatting be damned!! thanks all, Dave Blackburn o?< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:35:47 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: If at first...Sweet 16, Volume 1 I completely missed Volume 1. :-( Mark E. > > It did work this time, so - thanks! > > If that one expires and there are still a few > stragglers, on digest or whatever, that still need it > in the next day or two, let me know and I'll upload it > again. Share the wealth, I say, but don't cherish it > too much! > > > Catherine > Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:10:57 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Site Can9t get into JoniMitchell.com. Anyone else having trouble? Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:34:56 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Site Finally got in. Must have been server problems. Thanks, Em. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:45:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Great Radio Morning Hi Ruth! It's so nice to see you post again! That is one Joni song that I've never had the pleasure of hearing but I will try to find it somewhere. I may have it! What CD is it on? So glad you got to catch the radio program! Doesn't feel like "fate" when something like this happens? Take care Ruth! Love, Sherelle Hello, all. I am delurking to report that I had a great radio evening last night. On a jazz program, I heard a tune that sounded strangely familiar. I am almost certain that it was a jazz take on "You Dream Flat Tires". They played a riff throughout the piece that sounded like the part of the song when Joni sings "I know that you love me, but when are you going to let love be" and her voice goes low, and then, as jazz versions do, they "went off" on it, improvising deconstructions and reconstructions of the melody. Flat Tires and Moon at the Window are my favorite songs from WTRF. Ruth ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:24:50 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: If at first...Sweet 16, Volume 1...ready for download again Here you go, Mark. http://s56.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=15PM3CY31QGUE15LZX214F0VPX I'm sorry about your Mom :-( You and Travis take good care, Brian - --- Mark Scott wrote: > I completely missed Volume 1. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:38:36 -0500 From: " janine sherman" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #71 Hey all, Is there hope after all? In the Showtime premier of All We Are Saying, Joni says something like she did not get savvy until she quit the business, which was last year. Rosanna says, "I think this is a terrible tragedy." Joni responds with, " well either I've quit or I'm taking a sabbatical, I don't know." She also says she still gets the MUSE, she writes things down but then reacts like a horse refusing the jump, refusing to take it any further. She demonstrated that with the jerking of her head like a horse does refusing the jump! (twice) There is an opening shot where Rosanna is waiting for her and Joni strolls down a path ( presumably at her place in Bel Air ) with the Jack Russell at her heels. They are sipping wine at a mosaic tile outside table and Joni is smoking. She looks relaxed and her nails look freshly manicured! I have it burnt to DVD, but have no idea how to do copies. I am willing if someone can take it from there. Lots of other artist angst and frustration filmed in this documentary. Much geared toward music downloading. All the best, Janine in Gettysburg NP: Man on the Moon REM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:16:15 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni Dream Had a Joni dream this morning : We were having our annual chat about the meaning of life and Joni said that she'll be anything but bored during her retirement. I can divulge the real reason why she didn't go to Carnegie; Joni is actually a tall man with whitish hair and a mustach, now bearing a resemblance with John Cleese. Who would have guessed she was hiding this for all these years? Crazy uh! Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:35:05 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: FW: Message re; River Hi Emma - my "analysis" of River: In a bushel full of top-notch songs, River is surely one of Joni's finest and emotionally strongest. Following the pattern of some of the other songs on Blue, it takes universal themes and makes them become personal. One of her top five recorded songs, it's been recorded over a hundred times by others, mostly on Christmas or Holiday collections which I find a little strange sometimes, but then again I suppose it's also pretty appropriate. Christmas is, after all, one of the most depressing and suicidal times of year for many. And that's exactly how Joni sets it up: "It's coming on Christmas They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer And singing songs of joy and peace Oh I wish I had a river I could skate away on" (A conflict between seasonal joy and her own sorrow. She certainly is experiencing neither joy nor peace.) "But it don't snow here It stays pretty green I'm going to make a lot of money Then I'm going to quit this crazy scene Oh I wish I had a river I could skate away on" Contrasting the Canadian Christmases of her childhood with the evergreen Christmases of California, she yearns for the temperatures that would freeze the ponds and allow her escape, or at least a diversion. And an interesting note about the cutting down of trees; from "Big Yellow Taxi" to Hejira's "Song For Sharon", she contrasts ecological concerns with affairs of the heart, and ultimately finds herself yearning for love rather than ecological solutions. "All I really want to do right now is...find another lover" (Song For Sharon). "He tried hard to help me You know, he put me at ease And he loved me so naughty Made me weak in the knees Oh, I wish I had a river I could skate away on" But finding another lover is not her concern in "River"; rather it's a song of mourning for a lost love who was so passionate he affected her on every level; physically, emotionally, psychologically. And following on the "tried hard to help me" line, she then proceeds to blame herself and her personality traits for the fact that things didn't work out. "I'm so hard to handle I'm selfish and I'm sad Now I've gone and lost the best baby That I ever had I wish I had a river I could skate away on Oh, I wish I had a river so long I would teach my feet to fly I wish I had a river I could skate away on I made my baby say goodbye" So, unlike so many of the songs (of others in the pop/rock genre) that preceded River, it's not a case of being sad because "my baby left me", but it goes to a deeper level (*I* made my baby say goodbye) and expresses the despair that is compounded by the fact that SHE has caused this tragedy to happen, like she could have prevented it. That emphasis definitely raises the bar emotionally for River and is likely one of the reasons it is such a powerful song. Bob NP: Joni, "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #71 - --- janine sherman wrote: > Hey all, > > Is there hope after all? > > [Joni] says she still gets the MUSE, she writes > things down but then > reacts like a horse refusing the jump, refusing to > take it any further. She > demonstrated that with the jerking of her head like > a horse does refusing > the jump! (twice) Don't refuse da muse! I wonder if it's possible to refuse the muse. Muses can be awfully persistant. Or they can just leave without warning. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:22:29 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: Message re; River A cogent analysis of "River," Bob. Thank you. That song is packed with Joni genius and duality. I'll explicate it in words someday, but I'm still learning more from it upon every listen, even after 35 years. You make an excellent point when you illuminate the fact that Joni frequently took on universal themes and made them personal. I believe she does so in much the same way that Gordon Parks often focused on one person in his photography to illustrate broad social themes. His "American Gothic" for instance: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2006/03/08/GA200603080009 7_movie.htm?startat=2 Synchronistically, James Taylor's website features his cover of this Joni classic as soon as you surf onto it. http://www.jamestaylor.com/_mp3/james_taylor--river.mp3 He still sings "river so wide" instead of "long," but who's perfect? I'm off to play my own standard tuning version on my own guitar. Ever so cathartic. - -Julius In a message dated 3/9/06 4:08:38 PM, scjoniguy@yahoo.com writes: > Hi Emma - my "analysis" of River: > > In a bushel full of top-notch songs, River is > surely one of Joni's finest and emotionally > strongest. Following the pattern of some of the > other songs on Blue, it takes universal themes > and makes them become personal. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:42:13 -0500 From: seulbzzaj@aol.com Subject: Ian Shaw Interview Here is an interview with Ian Shaw frm a newsletter e-mail that I received from Linn Records: Ian Shaw New Album - Exclusive Interview Having already featured on the front cover in the brand new March edition of leading publication Jazzwise and a host of live dates just announced, the portents are good for the forthcoming Ian Shaw album "Drawn to All Things" (Linn AKD 276). It is a sumptuous reworking of the Joni Mitchell songbook from the UK's leading male jazz singer. Produced by Richard Cottle, it features a mouth-watering array of talent. Sure to be one of the musical highlights of 2006, it places one foot in jazz territory and another into a broader spectrum that is both soulful and big in the production stakes. His most recent albums have been released on US-based labels but this, his debut album on Linn Records, represents a homecoming that, in the words of respected publication Jazzwise, will see Ian's profile raised beyond "the confines of the jazz world". Often compared with the legendary Mark Murphy, many critics believe Ian to be an important international talent in a world with a very few male jazz vocalists. Released on Monday 3 April, you can pre-order your copy online at www.linnrecords.com. Linn Records' Colin Cook took some time to catch up with Ian for an exclusive interview - which we will present in two parts, in this and the next edition of the Linn Records Jazz Newsletter. It will offer a fascinating insight into the artist and his new album, the current jazz scene and music industry in general. Joni Mitchell has an extensive back catalogue of songs. How did you choose the material for "Drawn to all Things"? The songs which made the final collection were chosen mainly for my own personal connection with Joni's work. "Both Sides Now" was one of my first singles albeit sung by the impossibly blue-eyed Judy Collins. "Night Ride Home" has been a duet with Claire Martin for almost all our gigging years. It is joyful. "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" album was a glorious ephiphany for me as a student in the 80s, so "Edith" represents that record. Some of Joni's compositions are too . . . well, too . . . Joni!! To re-interpret "Hejira" (apart from "Furry Sings the Blues" which I recorded in 1999 with Cedar Walton) would be like discovering a locked diary, prising it open and reading it out aloud, naked on a uni-cycle with a flat tyre. Can you describe the thought process behind the arrangements from their original formats? I hope that, although some of my arrangements twist a gentle, rhythmic and harmonic squewer, occasionally daring to re-harm and re-structure, the overall narrative tension and 'scape of each miniature is merely re-interpreted and not re-invented. Will there be any surprises when performing them live? The only surprises when I perform these songs live is that, because I work with jazz musicians, there will be improvisation over whole repeated sections, unlike Joni's originals which, of course, focus on her story and carefully spun arrangements in studio format. I am able, as a jazz singer, to play these lines live as I would Gershwin or Porter. What would you say to the diehard Joni Mitchell fan about the album? I hope the die-hard Joni fans will only see my album as a body of work that reflects a complete devotion to composer and poet. Which non-Joni Mitchell song would you like to hear her sing? I would like to hear Joni sing Fran Landesmann and Tommy Wolf's "Spring Can Really Hang You Up the Most". Don't miss part two of this exclusive interview which will be featured in our next newsletter on Thursday 23 March, 2006. Ian Shaw will be touring extensively this year - full details can be found here. - Scott ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: Joni Dream - --- Laurent wrote: > Joni is > actually a tall man with whitish hair and a mustach, > now bearing a > resemblance with John Cleese. > > Who would have guessed she was hiding this for all > these years? \ Bob Dylan did say she was a man. - --Smurf . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:37:44 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:The Human Jukebox Hi, all, I was surprised no one mentioned the human jukebox that used to appear on the streets of San Francisco, down by the waterfront area. I last saw him in 1990, I think; there was a guy in a homemade box, resembling an old telephone booth. It was brightly colored and had a list of songs on the front. There was an opening, as I remember, and if you put some money in there, a sliding door opened up near eye-level, and a guy inside would proceed to play a song on a trumpet for you. Cool, eh?! Kenny B In a message dated 3/8/06 3:13:59 AM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: > From: Nuriel Tobias > Subject: Human Jukebox > > Hi friends! > In one of her DVD's (Sorry for not recalling which one) Joni says she > doesn't want to become a human jukebox. > Anyone knows what did Joni mean by that? > ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #72 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)