From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #48 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, February 14 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 048 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Desktop pics [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Covers 73 - Better late than...whatever [Bob Muller ] Re: The Long and Winding Road... ["Donna Binkley" ] FW: Help with identifying a Joni concert please ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Chuck Mitchell [Bob Muller ] Joni's excuse [Casey Certis-Milby ] Re: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 [vince ] Re: Various Ramblings [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Various Ramblings ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: Joni's excuse ["Scott and Jody" ] Re: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 [Randy Remote Subject: Desktop pics Hi everyone. If you're wondering what happened to the desktop pics I was posting for you all to download. I stopped once the website was available to everyone. If you haven't checked it out yet, there are now 42 to choose from. There are several from our own website creator, Les and a couple of contributions have come in from visitors to the site. If you want to try your hand at some Joni related graphics, there is a link there to me. Go to www.jonimitchell.com/wallpaper Feel free to browse and download any that you like. Mark in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:15:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Covers 73 - Better late than...whatever Bonnie's version is gonna be hard to top - I heard it before I heard Joni's and it remains my favorite. And would it kill Judy to cover a post-1970 Joni tune? Subject: Re: Covers 73 - Better late than...whatever > still like Bonnie Rait's version best though.> > > Bonnie's version is gonna be hard to top - I heard it before I heard Joni's > and it remains my favorite. And would it kill Judy to cover a post-1970 Joni > tune? > Dog Eat Dog, maybe? Actually she would do a killer Ethiopia. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 06:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: J Kendel Johnson Subject: Chuck Mitchell Hello, all. I am at the Folk Alliance conference in Austin -- looking forward to seeing several of you at the Joni tribute artist showcase this evening, if I can persuade my partner, David, to head back to Dallas a little later. I'm headed to a workshop I signed up for this morning, so I just have a sec, but wanted to report that Joni's ex-husband, Chuck Mitchell, played a 30-minute set at the conference last night, and he was quite good -- very "old school" troubadour and somewhat theatrical, but a very solid job as an entertainer. I will write more, and I took pictures I will post, but I wound up talking to Chuck afterward, and he also gave me his CD and asked for mine in exchange. (Yes, I will post mp3's, too.) He sang Circle Game, but did not mention Joni on stage or during our conversation. He says he has been working at buying, renovating and selling old houses for about 10 years and decided he needed to come to the conference to get his touring career restarted, if he was ever going to. He was upbeat, friendly and confident -- nothing like the down-and-out and embittered guy I remember reading about in a review of one of his shows several years ago (but, of course, we did not talk about Joni!) If he was bitter, maybe he's turned a corner. Who knows. I will write more about his set when I get home, if you would like to hear about it. It was an incredible experience for me to have the encounter with someone who knew Joni so intimately in the early days of her career. This is an incredible conference. I've wound up chatting very casually with Lloyd Maines, Terry Hendrix, Judy Collins, Jeff Black, Sara Hickman, (okay, Jeff & Sara were already friends), Sarah Lee Guthrie (Arlo's daughter) and her husband, Johnny Irion (what a dynamic duo!), and I topped off my evening last night chatting sitting at the bar with Jonathan Edwards! (I have his first 6 albums on vinyl!) More soon, J (in Austin, back in Dallas soon) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:46:22 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: The Long and Winding Road... Welcome home Victor! Missed you in NYC, you would have loved it! love, db >>> 2/10/2006 9:31:53 AM >>> Hello, I'm back on the jmdl. I think a vacation did me well. I heard about the tribute in NYC...sounds like it was a lot of fun. I'm currently going to music school at GSU in Atlanta. It's a little weird with so many classmates who are 18, 19, 20...but after one full semester I'm over the novelty of it and I'm going to just focus more on my classes. Honestly, I'm kind of tired of being around so many kids so much. At first it was funny but its starting to get kind of old. The other weekend, I sang with the GSU singers at the new Georgia Aquarium. I hadn't been yet (even though I bought a yearly pass back in November) and was blown away by just the small glimpse I got. Hopefully I'll find some time to make it back over soon. The whale sharks and rays were particularly exciting. I was just down the street from where Coretta Scott King was laying but I did not try to go to the courthouse or the Baptist church. There were lines going for blocks and blocks and several hour waits in the freezing cold. I understand why some people would stick the weather out and make a pilgrimage but I can't afford to get sick and have too much work to do anyway and plus I don't really like to see open caskets. I did listen to Stevie Wonder singing "His Eyes are on the Sparrow"- there's an 8 minute video you can stream at CNN.com . I did not watch the Grammies but opted instead to watch the new LOST episode which I enjoyed thoroughly. I have gotten hooked on LOST and it is the one show I look forward to every week(besides the Simpsons.) Next week looks particularly compelling. Also, rumour has it that I'll be in the Boston area from March 8- 12th. There are already plans brewing for a mini fest that weekend. Any interested parties contact Jody Johnson at your leisure. That's about it for now. Hope everyone is well. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:59:25 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 There was discussion some time ago of a movie made by actress Rosanna Arquette called "All We Are Saying", a documentary of face-to-face interviews with well known musicians, Joni Mitchell amongst them. I saw a promo clip for it last night that showed Joni speaking, also David Crosby and others. It will be shown on Showtime on March 8th. Looks like a winner. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:42:23 -0800 (PST) From: Jahida Jorganes Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #47 Hello everyone!! I promise I will write my review and post my pictures of the show as soon as I have a moment to breathe. I have been rehearsing and performing for the past 2 weeks nonstop!! I am so exhausted and can't wait until the end of this week because next week is a well-deserved break for me. Peace, Love,and Joni, Jahida P.S. Who would've thought that my hometown of Guttenberg, New Jersey would get more snow than where I now live in Vermont? It's truly comical. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 14:24:35 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: FW: Help with identifying a Joni concert please - -----Original Message----- From: Joe Jones [mailto:joejones@onetel.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Help with identifying a Joni concert please Hi, greetings from sunny (yet very cold) North Wales. Over a dimeadozen.org, there's a debate about the time and whereabouts of a Joni concert. The details are below. Can anyone help please. Cheers - Joe NP - The Arctic Monkeys - Live in Koln. Favourite Joni - Don't Interrupt The Sorrow The details of the Joni concert so far are: 1) Joni Mitchell - 1968 or 69 - Germany Maybe.torrent This one is a mysterious but very high-quality recording of Joni in 1967, 1968, or 1969. Early Joni, featuring her beautiful 1960s voice and a recording that is astoundingly good--crisp, clear, no static, very little hiss. 2) Joni Mitchell Unknown Venue received as Germany(?) 1968 (?) Joni didn't play in Germany in 1968. She first played Fayetteville on January 3rd, 1967 and again in May of the same year, so presumably this show is after that (as she discusses her visit to Fort Bragg in the intro to "Dr. Junk"). She says the visit was "about 2 years ago," which would suggest that this performance took place in 1969, but the presence of "Dr. Junk" in the setlist would argue against the show being as late as 1969. One real highlight of this is the Circle Game/Little Green medley. Any help identifying the particulars of this amazingly high-quality recording is welcome. 01 - Marcie 02 - Nathan La Freneer 03 - Intro To Dr. Junk 04 - Dr Junk The Dentist Man 05 - Roses Blue 06 - Circle Game/Little Green 07 - I Don't Know Where I Stand 08 - Go Tell The Drummer Man 09 - Michael From Mountains - -- Joe Jones: 07771 625411 joejones@onetel.com "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so" Douglas Adams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:37:44 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 I like the part where David Crosby says, "That's how Britni Spears who is a deep as a bird bath gets ahead of someone like Joni Mitchell. I wonder what the context was? Wanna Guess. Just back from hanging with Paz and the Dulson's at the mini joni tribute. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 12:59 PM Subject: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 > There was discussion some time ago of a movie made by actress Rosanna > Arquette called "All We Are Saying", a documentary of face-to-face > interviews with well known musicians, Joni Mitchell amongst them. I saw a > promo clip for it last night that showed Joni speaking, also David Crosby > and others. It will be shown on Showtime on March 8th. Looks like a > winner. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:33:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat podcast with JC http://straightnochaserjazz.blogspot.com/2006/01/podcast-31-goodbye-pork-pie-hat.html This guy, who does a jazz podcast, did a show about GPPH, and plays about 5 different versions of the song, including Joni's from Mingus, Mingus' original recording from "Mingus Ah Um", Jeff Beck's and Kevin Mahogony's, which features the alternate (and way inferior imo) Rahsaan Roland Kirk lyric. It's an enjoyable 30 minutes-or-so show. And you don't need any special equipment or anything to hear it, you can just download the fila and enjoy it through the media player of your choice. Bob NP: Kenny Loggins, "Set It Free" - --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Chuck Mitchell \ Hey, thanks for the nice reporting, J - sounds like you're having a grand time. I'd love to hear more details when you get back home - for now just kick back and have fun. Chuck, as you probably know, recorded The Circle Game for an album he released in the 70's. What you may not know is that he also recorded Joni's "Winter Lady", which was never released but will be coming to a Covers Volume in the near future. Bob NP: Hole, "Northern Star" - --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:01:13 -0800 From: Casey Certis-Milby Subject: Joni's excuse This from the most recent Tom Rush newsletter: > The Carnegie Hall show (the Joni Mitchell tribute/fund raiser) was a > blast. As blasi as I try to pretend to be, getting a Standing O at > Carnegie is a buzz! But my favorite part of the evening (23 acts, AND > the show ran on schedule!) was Joni's excuse for not being there - she > emailed in to say her cat was sick. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:07:51 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 > I like the part where David Crosby says, "That's how Britni Spears who > is a deep as a bird bath gets ahead of someone like Joni Mitchell. Apart from the fact that David Crosby's life does not speak to me as someone who has lived life with depth... and apart from the fact that Britney Spears (who will slash her wrists when she realizes she could of spelled it "Britni") has given us, in Oops I Did it Again, one of the greatest pop songs ever... is the fact that Joni chose a long time ago to not get ahead in the popular music, because she chose quite intentionally not to stoke the star maker machinery behind the popular song. Joni could have been one of the great hitsmakers ever. She chose a different path. I am glad she did. I think it is clear that she lives with occasional twinges of regret over that, but it was the only path that would be true to her inner core of being. She has chosen the better way. David Crosby may be plagued with all kinds of inner demons that have kept him from living his life to the fullest. I can be very sympathetic to the weaknesses that he has that have led his life to be lived as he has done. I am certainly no personal monument to a better way. But there is something that grinds me that he feels compelled to rip another artist to extol Joni. Joni does not need to be celebrated by diminishing other artists. I am sure that Britney could do a great job of imitating some of the low points of Crosby's life. Besides, it is too easy to use Spears as the example of "bad." That is not creative. Unless Spears changes her career path, she will be remembered with fun only by those who came of age when her music came out just as we remember fondly the fun music of our youth, fluff though it may be. Crosby will be remembered for some great music that he accomplished with others. Joni will be remembered for the great music she did alone. That should be the ultimate reward and the ultimate getting ahead - very few of us will ever be remembered. Joni is so far ahead in the getting ahead game that we all have cause to celebrate. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:10:43 -0500 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Joni's excuse Hmmm, I only recall one standing ovation and that was for Little Jimmy Scott. From: Casey Certis-Milby << This from the most recent Tom Rush newsletter: ... As blasi as I try to pretend to be, getting a Standing O at Carnegie is a buzz! >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:15:21 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Various Ramblings Just a few thoughts that I've neglected to pass along but, every time I read verious posts by other folks, I'm reminded that I meant to comment: on losing a pet: without a doubt, the worst day of my life was the one when I had to put down my Spanial mix, Corky, after 14 wonderful years. on Tom Rush: I recently found & bought his early album featuring "Circle Game", "Tin Angel" and "Urge For Going" at a flea market, happy to have an old record with three Joni covers. Upon playing it, though, I disliked his versions so much I haven't listened to it since. His performace at Carnegie was better but I wouldn't rave about it; guess I just don't like his style. and, has anyone heard the cover of "Both Sides Now", by Iron & Wine on their Bloc Party CD? It's a v-e-r-y slow version, although respectably performed. Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:31:55 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Various Ramblings On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:15:21 EST PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > on losing a pet: without a doubt, the worst day of my >life was the one when I > had to put down my Spanial mix, Corky, after 14 >wonderful years. OK, my dog was not a Spanial, but he was a mix, his name was Corky, and we put him down when he was 14 ... one of the worst days of my life. That's ... too weird. Yes, I consider Joni's "excuse" (I don't like the word, but I'll let it stand) legitimate, and unless there is evidence to the contrary, believe her. Otherwise, it's just gossip. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:53:11 -0500 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: Re: Joni's excuse she > emailed in to say her cat was sick. I have always been under the impression that Joni doesn't even own a computer. Something is awry! jody - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey Certis-Milby" To: Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:01 PM Subject: Joni's excuse > This from the most recent Tom Rush newsletter: > >> The Carnegie Hall show (the Joni Mitchell tribute/fund raiser) was a >> blast. As blasi as I try to pretend to be, getting a Standing O at >> Carnegie is a buzz! But my favorite part of the evening (23 acts, AND >> the show ran on schedule!) was Joni's excuse for not being there - she >> emailed in to say her cat was sick. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:55:10 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Joni in movie to be shown on Showtime Mar. 8 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "vince" > Unless Spears changes her career path, she will be remembered with fun > only by those who came of age when her music came out just as we remember > fondly the fun music of our youth, fluff though it may be. Yeah, I think that's true, and we all have our guilty pleasures...(although I still feel that putting out a song by a young woman called "Hit Me One More Time" is unconscionable). I don't think Croz has anything against BS per se, but sees her as an example of the mindless, souless pap that has been pushed and promoted by the big mu$ic powers-that-be. As someone who was on the crest of the wave that included Hendrix, Dylan, Joni et al, it must be even more sad for him to see that greed has triumphed over art. He had seen the mountain top-where art could affect people's lives in a positive way. > Crosby will be remembered for some great music that he accomplished with > others. Hmm...I've seen the man a few times with just a guitar...damn...he's written some fine songs...also witness the first 2 or 3 albums he made with Nash > Joni will be remembered for the great music she did alone. Some of it...then there's the LA Express, Jaco, Herbie... and not to forget, Croz brought Joni to the biz, and had the good sense to "produce" her 1st album by doing pretty much nothing but stay out of the way > That should be the ultimate reward and the ultimate getting ahead - very > few of us will ever be remembered. Joni is so far ahead in the getting > ahead game that we all have cause to celebrate. She has achieved an incredible amount in artistic and human terms...but surely knowing one has done good works, or helped others, whether they are ever recognized or not, must be it's own reward, Rev, and good energy is never lost; like wisdom, it's passed along. I don't think Joni regrets not being a hitmaker, so much as she regrets that the world did not have the good sense to recognize her as Queen. I think Croz would be the first to bow down before her. That a marginally talented pair of boobs like Brit is crowned instead is part of our sad world, I guess, like having a privileged moron for a president rather than someone like, say, MLK who could truly inspire and advance the people. RR ps did you hear about Cheney shooting that guy? Do you think they hushed it up for 24 hrs so the alcohol could get out of his system? These people have their finger on the button? ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #48 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)