From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #43 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 9 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 043 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni at Wembley 83 dvd Vine (anyone?) [Lucatello Adriano ] When I first saw your Gallery, I liked the ones of Joni... [RoseMJoy@aol.] Suzanne - Joni etc. [Oddmund Kaarevik ] Re: Suzanne - Joni etc. ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Richard Thompson ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Box of Paints ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Box of Paints ] Re: Richard Thompson [Bob Muller ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Deb Messling ] Questions, questions, question... [Bob Muller ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Randy Remote ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [karen ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 ["JR" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [karen ] '68 Live Recording ["Snatch N. Grabster" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Randy Remote ] Old Town School ["Snatch N. Grabster" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [vince ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [vince ] Better Than Joni??!?!?!? [Box of Paints ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [karen ] Let history repeat itself... [JRMCo1@aol.com] BitTorrent [Box of Paints ] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [Brian Gross ] delurking for suzanne vega [Sharon G ] Re: Jack Robinson [LCStanley7@aol.com] The Wembley Concert Vine [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Joni and Neil [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Jack Robinson [RoseMJoy@aol.com] jonimitchell.com review of the olde towne folk school benefit ["patrick l] Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 [karen ] Re: Chicago story [Bobsart48@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 11:42:00 +0100 From: Lucatello Adriano Subject: Joni at Wembley 83 dvd Vine (anyone?) On 8 Feb 2006, at 09:00, JMDL Digest wrote: > > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:45:46 -0000 > From: Duarte Moniz > Subject: Joni at Wembley 83 dvd Vine > > Box of Paints [jamiezubairi@gmail.com] will reoffer soon. > > ------------------------------ > This is to thank Randy for his kind offer to pass on the "Joni at Wembley 83" dvd, I received it yesterday and I wish to honour the promise to send it along to the first person who would like to receive it. Please e-mail me separately at lucatell@ictp.it with your snail address. Ciao from sunny Italy! Adriano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:43:27 -0500 From: karen Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 Hi everyone! Some Joni questions for ya. Joni used to be managed Elliott Roberts (who I am familiar with because of my psychotic Neil Young worship; Elliott has been Neil's manager forever, and shadows him wherever he goes.)...I understand that Elliott no longer manages Joni, but I thought he did so for a long time? Am I wrong about that? Also, Joel Bernstein, who also works for Neil, has a Joni connection, does he not? Joel is currently Neil's archivist, but I know he took some of Joni's album cover photos (the ice skating one, maybe?) Also, speaking of my psychotic Neil Worship, how could I have not said that "Circle Game" was my favorite song. Written about Neil, right? In response to Sugar Mountain. : ) Do you all know Neil's (unrecorded) song "Sweet Joni (from Saskatoon)" ? I have it if you don't. Happy to share. And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for a benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six years ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you probably already do. Anyway, just wondering about Joni this morning ... Told ya I didn't know a lot of stuff! : ) Good morning. best,karen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 14:38:06 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: When I first saw your Gallery, I liked the ones of Joni... The Jack Robinson Archive For those of us who had the rad pleasure of attending Julius's pre-party at the Citigroup Cafe I'm sure you took notice of the awesome photograph taken by the legendary Jack Robinson for Vogue Magazine in 1968. Only one of these photos was used, but he took 60 shots which were just amazingly beautiful. She appeared to have been very relaxed with Jack as I'm sure you can see. These photographs are available for sale and the prices range from low end budget to high. Feel free to browse some of the photographs which are available for all to see on the new and improved Joni Mitchell.com site. If anyone is interested to own one, please do not hesitate to contact Dan Oppenheimer at the Jack Robinson Gallery in Memphis, TN. Email: (901) 619-4478 _info@robinsonarchive.com_ (mailto:info@robinsonarchive.com) _www.robinsonarchive.com _ (http://www.robinsonarchive.com ) He is VERY friendly. Don't forget to mention where you saw the photos. Check out the ones of Beale Street and the Old Daisy, the New Daisy Theatre, and Handy Park. Maybe if you look hard, you'll find "Furry" Some of these date back to the 40's! I am just blown away by them. thanks for the bandwidth... Rosie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:17:02 +0100 From: Oddmund Kaarevik Subject: Suzanne - Joni etc. As some of you may remember - I pointed out - before the Tribute Concert - that Joni in some interviews have pointed out her dislike of Suzanne Vega. When people have compared her music to Suzanne's shes said "Well - yeah - with no heart in it" Typical Joni - And in that respect I would say Joni is Ms. Arrogant of the two. But - I love Joni -despite or maybe becuse of that. She can be as arrogant as she wishes - she is SIQUOMB- anyways. I would say that it is great of Suzanne to take part in the concert - and pay her tribute to Joni - even though Joni pays none to her. Maybe that one was one of the reasons Joni did not came - some of the artists -so little in her spirit? I like Suzanne Vega. And I like Joni Mitchell. Or I love Joni. Suzanne can never compete with her. But her two first albums are so great. The song "Crackin" - "Luka" "Marlene on the Wall" and "Tom's diner" They're classics - and stood out in the time they were made as something different - something closer - something real. I know that Suzanne Vega has suffered badly - her late husband - abondoned her for the younger and better looking woman singing in "Ally McBeal" - disaster! I find it sad to hear that she doesn't seem able to give anything anylonger. It seems to me that she has turned more like The Queen - in "The Queen and the soldier" than anything else - but can we blame her for that? She's suffered her losses - she lives in NYC- she has to take care of herself- and I guess it was a great relief and comfort for Ms Vega to have Lou Reed accompanying her at the Carnegie event. They are both arrogant. Just as Joni is. And as we forgive Joni for that (Our Dear Lady of Duality) I believe we should forgive them too. They do they're best - and they have both given they're share to us- the human race through their arts and music. And I am grateful for that. I want to write a letter to Joni Mitchell - I guess this is impossible. I guess she never answers or opens her fan-mail - but maybe Julius or someone could give me the adress to her secretary - and maybe - they can - if they are allowed- hand it to her? Love Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:21:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Suzanne - Joni etc. Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: and I guess it was a great relief > and comfort for Ms Vega to have Lou Reed accompanying her at the Carnegie > event. They are both arrogant. They may both be arrogant, but Lou was there accompanying his long time love, Laurie Anderson. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:17:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Richard Thompson There is a new 5 cd box set, The Life and Music of Richard Thompson, which includes "rarities, unreleased tracks, covers, and live workouts." Hey, Muller, might there be a Joni cover on it???? Jerry P.S. Hint, Hint Ms Mitchell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:35:11 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 Hi Karen I can answer *some* of your questions... Yes Elliot Roberts (nee Rabinowitz) did manage Joni during the 60's and 70's but once she migrated to Geffen (or something) she was managed by Peter Asher of Asher Krost Management. Peter is Jane Asher's brother, who used to date Paul Macartney who used to be in an English band... And Joel is ofter quoted by Joni as her 'annex memory' as not only does he take photographs of that crowd but also he knows her guitar songs inside out, every tuning, every voicing, so anytime she wants to play a song for a tour, I guess she calls him up. Apparently he is also working on a Joni Archive but really, I don't see a better one than jonimitchell.com ;-) Much Joni to you Jamie Zoob On 08/02/06, karen wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Some Joni questions for ya. > > Joni used to be managed Elliott Roberts (who I am familiar with because of > my psychotic Neil Young worship; Elliott has been Neil's manager forever, > and shadows him wherever he goes.)...I understand that Elliott no longer > manages Joni, but I thought he did so for a long time? Am I wrong about > that? > > Also, Joel Bernstein, who also works for Neil, has a Joni connection, does > he not? Joel is currently Neil's archivist, but I know he took some of > Joni's album cover photos (the ice skating one, maybe?) > > > Anyway, just wondering about Joni this morning ... Told ya I didn't know a > lot of stuff! : ) > > Good morning. > > best,karen > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:35:11 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 Hi Karen I can answer *some* of your questions... Yes Elliot Roberts (nee Rabinowitz) did manage Joni during the 60's and 70's but once she migrated to Geffen (or something) she was managed by Peter Asher of Asher Krost Management. Peter is Jane Asher's brother, who used to date Paul Macartney who used to be in an English band... And Joel is ofter quoted by Joni as her 'annex memory' as not only does he take photographs of that crowd but also he knows her guitar songs inside out, every tuning, every voicing, so anytime she wants to play a song for a tour, I guess she calls him up. Apparently he is also working on a Joni Archive but really, I don't see a better one than jonimitchell.com ;-) Much Joni to you Jamie Zoob On 08/02/06, karen wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Some Joni questions for ya. > > Joni used to be managed Elliott Roberts (who I am familiar with because of > my psychotic Neil Young worship; Elliott has been Neil's manager forever, > and shadows him wherever he goes.)...I understand that Elliott no longer > manages Joni, but I thought he did so for a long time? Am I wrong about > that? > > Also, Joel Bernstein, who also works for Neil, has a Joni connection, does > he not? Joel is currently Neil's archivist, but I know he took some of > Joni's album cover photos (the ice skating one, maybe?) > > > Anyway, just wondering about Joni this morning ... Told ya I didn't know a > lot of stuff! : ) > > Good morning. > > best,karen > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:38:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Richard Thompson Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 Tell us about the Chicago benefit, please. I do recall hearing about it but don't remember much. I vaguely remember some snippy press coverage about the fact that Joni wasn't folky enough for the Olde Towne Folk School. At 07:43 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote: >And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for a >benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six years >ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you >probably already do. > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:46:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Questions, questions, question... And Peter's wife is Betsy Asher, the "Betsy" in Moon at the Window and Song For Sharon. And longtime JMDLer's will recall that Old Towne show in Chicago, we got the news firsthand from someone who had an usher sneak them in. But we're always ready for a good story, and I'll bet LOTS of folks haven't heard it, so spill away, Karen. And lots of us have heard Neil's "Sweet Joan", it's included on the Second Fret Sets collection that's been heavily traded/distributed. At least it's ONE song where we know for sure who she was singing about! Bob NP: Neil Young, "He Was The King" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger- Start an email from Y! Messenger, plus be alerted when new emails arrive. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:48:53 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 > Yes Elliot Roberts (nee Rabinowitz) did manage Joni during the 60's > and 70's but once she migrated to Geffen (or something) she was > managed by Peter Asher of Asher Krost Management. Peter is Jane > Asher's brother, who used to date Paul Macartney who used to be in an > English band... He was also Peter of Peter & Gordon fame, who had a hit with the Lennon/McCartney penned "World Without Love", as well as producer of Linda Ronstadt's big hit albums. > > And Joel is ofter quoted by Joni as her 'annex memory' as not only > does he take photographs of that crowd but also he knows her guitar > songs inside out, every tuning, every voicing, so anytime she wants to > play a song for a tour, I guess she calls him up. Apparently he is > also working on a Joni Archive but really, I don't see a better one > than jonimitchell.com ;-) Supposedly, when he finishes compiling the mammoth Neil Young unreleased series project, he is going to work on a Joni boxset; may we (and he) live that long. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 18:52:57 -0500 From: karen Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 OK, well, I have a good friend who lives in Chicago and she was there, she is not a huge Joni fan but her partner is. Anyway. It was of course, a thrill, that Joni was going to be performing, so everyone was very excited. Towards the end of what was, I gather, a short-ish set, Joni noticed that a man in the front row yawned. (!!!) She got up, put down her guitar or whatever it was she was playing, and said "Get some sleep, Chicago," and walked off stage, (or maybe it was "Wake Up, Chicago,"), not sure, and she did NOT come back out. She was supposed to do a whole other set as an encore or something, had planned on it. !!!! Now, I was not there, I am hearing this through a friend who was, so take it for what it's worth. Evidently, there is some kind of green room, still there, where all the artists sign their names on the walls ... Somewhere in there, Joni signed whatever it was she said on stage, like "Wake up Chicago," joni. Would you be so mortified if it was you who had yawned ? ! ? Incredible that she is still that sensitive after all these years, after all her incredible success. Whoa. She's intense. Love her.. : ) bestkaren On 2/8/06 6:41 PM, "Deb Messling" wrote: > Tell us about the Chicago benefit, please. I do recall hearing about it > but don't remember much. I vaguely remember some snippy press coverage > about the fact that Joni wasn't folky enough for the Olde Towne Folk School. > > > > At 07:43 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote: >> And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for a >> benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six years >> ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you >> probably already do. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Deb Messling -^..^- > dlmessling@rcn.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:13:59 -0500 From: "JR" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "karen" To: "Deb Messling" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 > Towards the end of what was, I gather, a short-ish set, Joni noticed that a > man in the front row yawned. (!!!) She got up, put down her guitar or > whatever it was she was playing, and said "Get some sleep, Chicago," and > walked off stage, (or maybe it was "Wake Up, Chicago,"), not sure, and she > did NOT come back out. Sounds like we got off lucky on Boston Common in the summer of '83. With people still "milling around" as she put it, six or seven songs into the show, she just couldn't get into it, and stopped Song for Sharon right in the middle of the song and after a short explanation, went backstage for about 20 minutes "to compose myself". It seemed like the rest of the show went pretty quickly, which, I'm sure those who were there or have the recording will attest. At least she came back out! Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:22:06 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 I remember Chicago, but was it a benefit? That I don't recall. I do remember hearing tell that the Chicago venue dressing room has a wall that performers customarily signed after gigging. The story goes that our Joan was miffed that some guy in the front row had the nerve to up and *yawn* during her performance. So, on the wall, Joni Mitchell signs, roughly: "Get some sleep, Chicago! See you next time, maybe... Joni Mitchell." Mwah! - -Julius In a message dated 2/8/06 3:50:27 PM, dlmessling@rcn.com writes: > Tell us about the Chicago benefit, please. I do recall hearing about it > but don't remember much. I vaguely remember some snippy press coverage > about the fact that Joni wasn't folky enough for the Olde Towne Folk School. > > > > At 07:43 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote: > >And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for > a > >benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six > years > >ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you > >probably already do. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:29:24 -0500 From: karen Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 I heard it was a benefit for the Olde Towne Folk School, which had just undergone a significant renovation or rebirth or new building or something, at that time. best,karen On 2/8/06 7:22 PM, "JRMCo1@aol.com" wrote: > I remember Chicago, but was it a benefit? That I don't recall. > > I do remember hearing tell that the Chicago venue dressing room has a wall > that performers customarily signed after gigging. The story goes that our > Joan was miffed that some guy in the front row had the nerve to up and *yawn* > during her performance. So, on the wall, Joni Mitchell signs, roughly: > > "Get some sleep, Chicago! See you next time, maybe... Joni Mitchell." > > Mwah! > > -Julius > > In a message dated 2/8/06 3:50:27 PM, dlmessling@rcn.com writes: > > Tell us about the Chicago benefit, please. I do recall hearing about it > but don't remember much. I vaguely remember some snippy press coverage > about the fact that Joni wasn't folky enough for the Olde Towne Folk School. > > > > At 07:43 AM 2/8/2006, you wrote: >> >And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for a >> >benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six years >> >ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you >> >probably already do. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:31:03 -0600 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: '68 Live Recording Check out torrent #81806 at www.dimeadozen.org, it's said to be a fantastic soundboard of Joni circa 1968 (unknown venue). PS- Does anyone know if Joni's performance at the opening of the new Old Town School branch was taped? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:48:53 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 > Yes Elliot Roberts (nee Rabinowitz) did manage Joni during the 60's > and 70's but once she migrated to Geffen (or something) she was > managed by Peter Asher of Asher Krost Management. Peter is Jane > Asher's brother, who used to date Paul Macartney who used to be in an > English band... He was also Peter of Peter & Gordon fame, who had a hit with the Lennon/McCartney penned "World Without Love", as well as producer of Linda Ronstadt's big hit albums. > > And Joel is ofter quoted by Joni as her 'annex memory' as not only > does he take photographs of that crowd but also he knows her guitar > songs inside out, every tuning, every voicing, so anytime she wants to > play a song for a tour, I guess she calls him up. Apparently he is > also working on a Joni Archive but really, I don't see a better one > than jonimitchell.com ;-) Supposedly, when he finishes compiling the mammoth Neil Young unreleased series project, he is going to work on a Joni boxset; may we (and he) live that long. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:50:41 -0600 From: "Snatch N. Grabster" Subject: Old Town School This was the inaugural concert at a new branch of the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago. The original branch on Armitage is still there. The second branch is several miles further north in the Lincoln Square neighborhood. The building had been the Hild branch of the Chicago Public Library. When the library was moved to a larger building, the old building was renovated, and turned into a performance space with classrooms, a guitar store, practice rooms, etc. etc., it's really quite nice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:55:49 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 karen wrote: >I heard it was a benefit for the Olde Towne Folk School, which had just >undergone a significant renovation or rebirth or new building or something, >at that time. > As the young people say: word. Vince ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:58:09 -0500 From: vince Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 karen wrote: >I heard it was a benefit for the Olde Towne Folk School, which had just >undergone a significant renovation or rebirth or new building or something, >at that time. > >best,karen > > > >In the Beginning > > The >Old Town School of Folk Music opened in December of 1957 with its first >home at 333 North Avenue. The first five years of the School's history >mirrored the boom in folk music at that time. Enrollment grew and >programs expanded. Over 150 students attended guitar and banjo classes >on a weekly basis. Folk dancing, and family sing-alongs rounded out the >programming. The School also offered concerts by nationally renowned >artists. Pete Seeger, Mahalia Jackson, Jimmy Driftwood, Big Bill >Broonzy, and Josh White were just some of the many folk music artists >who performed at the Old Town School in its early years. > > > > 1960s > > The >School continued to grow, contributing to and benefiting from the folk >revival movement of the 1960s. The School developed a special >atmosphere of community and camaraderie, and helped to launch some of >the brightest artists on the folk music scene: Roger McGuinn of the >Byrds, Bob Gibson, John Prine, Bonnie Koloc, and the late Steve Goodman >all studied at the Old Town School. In 1968, the School purchased and >moved into a 13,000 square foot building at 909 West Armitage Avenue. > > > > 1970s > > In >the early 1970s the School introduced private instruction in a variety >of instruments, a more high-profile concert schedule, and the opening >of satellite locations. Enrollment peaked in 1975 with over 650 >students attending classes each week. > > > > 1980s > > The >late 70s marked a decline in enrollment, concert attendance, and the >beginning of a severe financial crisis that left the School on the >brink of bankruptcy. In 1982, the School's staff and Board began a >broad series of institutional changes that increased management >effectiveness, placed a higher emphasis on fundraising, and expanded >the scope of programming to include ethnic and traditional music from >around the world. Solvent, the School rebounded. By 1987 the School was >able to renovate the Armitage Avenue facility, a renovation that >contributed to a surge in the School's popularity. That same year the >School won the prestigious Beatrice Foundation Award for Excellence. > > > > > > 1990s and beyond > > In >the early 1990s, the School recognized the need for additional space >and began to explore options. Coincidentally, at about the same time >the City of Chicago approached the Old Town School and other cultural >institutions about the former Hild Library, an art deco builiding that >had stood vacant for twelve years. The 43,000 square foot building was >situated on North Lincoln Avenue in Lincoln Square, one of Chicago's >most culturally diverse neighborhoods. Chosen by the city as the >preferred recipient, the School began planning and soliciting support >to expand operations to the new facility in late 1994. > > > >With funds raised from a $10 million capital campaign, the School >expanded its programs to the much larger Lincoln Avenue facility, and >maintained its music education programs at the Armitage building in >Lincoln Park. The new Old Town School building was dedicated on >September 18, 1998, with a concert by Joni Mitchell and Peter Yarrow. >The new facility, the finest in North America for the study and >presentation of folk and traditional music forms, dramatically raised >the School's profile and garnered national praise and recognition. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 01:15:26 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Better Than Joni??!?!?!? I'm up watching this prog about music on television I just heard this segment about The Sex Pistols and when they first appeared on UK TV which was on a programme called' Revolver' which only broadcast to the Northwest... it caused a stir despite only being seen by a limited number of people but it was championed by people who didn't like 'The Old Grey Whistle Test'. Not sure why but the female presenter of 'Revolver' said That was The Sex Pistols... they were better than Joni Mitchell....' Can't undertand that... Much Joni Jamie Z - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:21:27 -0500 From: karen Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 So this was in 98, six years ago. When was Joni9s last concert? Is there any hope that she will perform ever again, or no? I think I know the answer ... best,karen On 2/8/06 7:58 PM, "vince" wrote: > > > karen wrote: >> >> I heard it was a benefit for the Olde Towne Folk School, which had just >> undergone a significant renovation or rebirth or new building or something, >> at that time. >> >> best,karen >> > >> >> >> > In the Beginning > > The > Old Town School of Folk Music opened in December of 1957 with its first > home at 333 North Avenue. The first five years of the School9s history > mirrored the boom in folk music at that time. Enrollment grew and > programs expanded. Over 150 students attended guitar and banjo classes > on a weekly basis. Folk dancing, and family sing-alongs rounded out the > programming. The School also offered concerts by nationally renowned > artists. Pete Seeger, Mahalia Jackson, Jimmy Driftwood, Big Bill > Broonzy, and Josh White were just some of the many folk music artists > who performed at the Old Town School in its early years. > > > > 1960s > > The > School continued to grow, contributing to and benefiting from the folk > revival movement of the 1960s. The School developed a special > atmosphere of community and camaraderie, and helped to launch some of > the brightest artists on the folk music scene: Roger McGuinn of the > Byrds, Bob Gibson, John Prine, Bonnie Koloc, and the late Steve Goodman > all studied at the Old Town School. In 1968, the School purchased and > moved into a 13,000 square foot building at 909 West Armitage Avenue. > > > > 1970s > > In > the early 1970s the School introduced private instruction in a variety > of instruments, a more high-profile concert schedule, and the opening > of satellite locations. Enrollment peaked in 1975 with over 650 > students attending classes each week. > > > > 1980s > > The > late 70s marked a decline in enrollment, concert attendance, and the > beginning of a severe financial crisis that left the School on the > brink of bankruptcy. In 1982, the School's staff and Board began a > broad series of institutional changes that increased management > effectiveness, placed a higher emphasis on fundraising, and expanded > the scope of programming to include ethnic and traditional music from > around the world. Solvent, the School rebounded. By 1987 the School was > able to renovate the Armitage Avenue facility, a renovation that > contributed to a surge in the School's popularity. That same year the > School won the prestigious Beatrice Foundation Award for Excellence. > > > > > > 1990s and beyond > > In > the early 1990s, the School recognized the need for additional space > and began to explore options. Coincidentally, at about the same time > the City of Chicago approached the Old Town School and other cultural > institutions about the former Hild Library, an art deco builiding that > had stood vacant for twelve years. The 43,000 square foot building was > situated on North Lincoln Avenue in Lincoln Square, one of Chicago9s > most culturally diverse neighborhoods. Chosen by the city as the > preferred recipient, the School began planning and soliciting support > to expand operations to the new facility in late 1994. > > > > With funds raised from a $10 million capital campaign, the School > expanded its programs to the much larger Lincoln Avenue facility, and > maintained its music education programs at the Armitage building in > Lincoln Park. The new Old Town School building was dedicated on > September 18, 1998, with a concert by Joni Mitchell and Peter Yarrow. > The new facility, the finest in North America for the study and > presentation of folk and traditional music forms, dramatically raised > the School's profile and garnered national praise and recognition. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 20:24:03 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Let history repeat itself... Hi. Here's "Entertainment History Highlights!" ...from "Yahoo!.com." Read it and weep.: 1970: Joni Mitchell announced her retirement from live performances. The singer was back doing shows within the year. - -------- Sniffle. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 01:24:54 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: BitTorrent Anyone got any Joni-related content on bit torrent as all? Jamie Z - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:59:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 - --- karen wrote: > So this was in 98, six years ago. > When was Joni9s last concert? June 2, 2000 at the E-center in Camden NJ (across the Delaware River from Philly) I was in the second row in the pit, closest that I ever was for a Joni show!!! > Is there any hope that she will perform ever again, or no? > I think I know the answer ... I think you know the answer too :-( Pass the tissue box, please And welcome to the list Karen! Brian in south jersey I've looked at love from both sides now From give and take, and still somehow It's love's illusions I recall I really don't know love at all --Joan, with the wisdom of the ages Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:55:13 -0500 From: Sharon G Subject: delurking for suzanne vega i really didnt think that i would delurk this quickly, but i find a need to straighten out some of the suzanne vega information. i actually have been reading the list on and off and off and on for a while and join and stopped and started again leading up to the Carnegie Hall Tribute. I was there and i have to say...i feel like i know some of you, or at least i have met some of you after the tribute.... first off.... i really like shawn colvin's outfit.. Norah Jones played the livingroom and a small 200 seater on the upper west side called Makor alot when she was breaking out. its is not uncommon for her to show up and work on new material. She is a member of a new band called the Little Willies who play not only willie nelson music but also hank williams and texas honky tonk suzanne vega was not escorted to the CHT with Lou Reed. Lou Reed is married to Laurie Anderson. Many years ago, Suzanne used to say in concert that "she wanted to be lou reed" or she wished she was lou reed... dont ask me what she meant by it but it brought Lou into her sphere. THey are close friends. He shows up at all her NYC shows... i know , he sat behind me in October and he always sees her after the show....the new york songwriter crowd is a small world and they all have overlapping managers, producers, players etc.. it really hasnt changed much... suzanne has had the same share of grief as many of us, she lost her brother prematurely and suddenly and she and her producer husband Michael Froom broke up..... If you listen to her last cd... Songs from Red and Grey....its all about her decaying marriage...its a classic painful cd.. her music has gone through many changes since Luka and Solitude Standing... she has tried all sorts of genres too.. Suzanne is known to be painfully shy but she is ungrateful or refusing of fans... i never seen her to refuse a picture or a signature.. i thought her Amelia was one of the best versions i have heard, she applied her style to the song and actually i thought she was made to sing it... she made me believe it... and understand it... so it resonated with me.. suzanne has more in common to joni mitchell than most songwriters. she is a paint artist, poet and songwriter.. glad you all had a good time in NYC.. i am grateful every day that i get to live in this playground.. i rode the subway with Joe from NC who was going to williamsburg and i hope he got home safely... sharon - -- Cuz things could be better, cuz things could be worse Cuz life can be charmed and cursed There's fast, slow and stall, no reverse There's nothing wrong with you The simple life gets complicated There's nothing you can do, just enjoy the view be glad you made it marychapin carpenter "sage advisor, does weary mean wiser?" dar williams ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:25:07 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Jack Robinson Rosie wrote: If anyone is interested to own one, please do not hesitate to contact Dan Oppenheimer at the Jack Robinson Gallery in Memphis, TN. Hi Rosie, Holy shot, Memphis is just down the street from Little Rock. Might be a good road trip if this gallery has the photos. BTW listas... all this NYC stuff is really blowing me away. Like the photo of Ashara with Amy Grant. I know Amy's cousin Sloan Burton... Burton Grant was their grandfather maybe great. Anyway, Amy is looks so much like Sloan in the picture, it tripped me out. All that talk about seeing Sonya standing outside a hotel and Norah coming through the curtains... Wow. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 00:02:47 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: The Wembley Concert Vine Just to let you all know the copy I have is going to Mark-Leon in Australia; shipping out Thursday. He says his brother may be able to convert it so that USA fans will be able to view it on their TV/DVD (Mark... if that happens, I will be SO grateful!); even if that doesn't happen, he will make PAL copies and/or copies to be viewed on computers as it originally was supposed to be (although I could not view the copy I had on my Mac G4 nor two friends' PC's). Kenny B (Having Night In The City Withdrawal Syndrome... I need another FIX...) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 00:15:25 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Neil Karen asked (and I will reply with my limited knowledge) "I understand that Elliott no longer manages Joni, but I thought he did so for a long time? Am I wrong about that? " Perfectly correct. I believe he managed Joni first, and got her hooked up with his friend/business associate David Geffen. This was in the 60's - circa '68. Do you have the PBS "American Masters" DVD "Woman of Heart and Mind" ? Great piece to have if you want to get a feel for Joni's life. No real Neil footage to speak of, though. I think Neil liked Joni - at The Last Waltz, I thought he was chasing her while she was chasing Robbie Robertson. "Also, Joel Bernstein, who also works for Neil, has a Joni connection, does he not? Joel is currently Neil's archivist, but I know he took some of Joni's album cover photos (the ice skating one, maybe?)" I think he's Joni's archivist also - long time relationship, and chronicler of her many open tunings and arrangements. He's quite the guy. "Also, speaking of my psychotic Neil Worship, how could I have not said that "Circle Game" was my favorite song. Written about Neil, right? In response to Sugar Mountain. : ) " Yes, that's the story Joni tells on at least one of her bootlegs - Second Frets ? The polio thing, the Canadian prarie thing, commonality that shows up in their art. "Do you all know Neil's (unrecorded) song "Sweet Joni (from Saskatoon)" ? " By Neil Young ("Baying at the Moon"). Yes, we have it on one or two of our compilation CD's. I suggest that you take up Bob Muller on any offer he makes you in this regard (I think he's made one already, eh ?) My following of Neil was limited to a couple of his electric albums with Crazy Horse (you know, Cowgirl and Southern Man - classics) and the CSN&Y collaboration Deja Vu and Harvest records, but I really don't have much more than that, except the Rust Never Sleeps DVD, which I bought recently and have watched once or twice while on the treadmill - will watch it properly soon. Interesting - but no Shadows and Light :-) Now that's a DVD from that era ! Oh, and nice job by Neil on harmonica on 'Furry Sings the Blues' ! "And ... Do you all know the story about when Joni performed in Chicago for a benefit for the re-opening of the Olde Towne Folk School? Five or six years ago, I think? Good story, I'll tell you if you don't know it, but you probably already do." The others here probably do, but I don't (and would like to hear it, if you'll tell it, Karen). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 00:16:39 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Jack Robinson Hell, if I were that close I would go just to see his exhibit. I don't know how many of Joni are on display there. You may want to call ahead of time to see. Julius brought to my attention the photos he took of Julius's home town of San Antonio, and there is this photo of the Rose Window that I would love to see. It makes you want to visit some of these places. The man traveled a great deal. Rosie sad that Bruce had yet another Grammy disappointment, but he did win for best solo rock vocal:o) yeah, bring 'em on home;~) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 00:20:47 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: jonimitchell.com review of the olde towne folk school benefit brian, thanks for digging this out. it's a wonderful piece of writing. doug stapleton ("wolfebite") was an attendee at the very first jonifest, in pittsburgh, including the field trip to fallingwater. one of my favorite people on the list, though i haven't heard from him in a while. patrick np - kcrwmusic.com late night house music. http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/details.cfm?id=1706 Doug Stapleton reported on the event for JM.com: Review by Doug Stapleton Your adventurous reporter here- bringing you the latest on all things JONI. I went with no expectations. My hope was to hang around back behind the theater for some sound seepage through the windows. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:34:27 -0500 From: karen Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2006 #48 Thanks, everyone for answering all my questions. Neil Young and Joni are clearly connected, that's cool, I think, gosh Joel Bernstein has like the best freaking job in the world, does he not? Neil and Joni's archivist/photographer/etc??? I think he lives on Neil's ranch. He is The Fan Who Crossed Over! : ) Don't worry, I won't try to sneak Neil into every conversation. I have another question. Do you guys have a website for tabs for Joni's songs? For guitar. (I know she plays other things.) ... I am a relatively new player (a couple of years), and I know a couple of Joni tunes (mostly Neil, uh oh, there I go again, heh), but would love to play more. Next Carnegie Hall Music of Joni Mitchell Show: The All JMDL List Fan Tribute to Joni! : ) Thanks again, bestkaren On 2/8/06 8:59 PM, "Brian Gross" wrote: > --- karen wrote: > >> So this was in 98, six years ago. >> When was Joni9s last concert? > > June 2, 2000 at the E-center in Camden NJ (across the Delaware River from > Philly) I was in the second row in the pit, closest that I ever was for a Joni > show!!! > >> Is there any hope that she will perform ever again, or no? >> I think I know the answer ... > > I think you know the answer too :-( > Pass the tissue box, please > And welcome to the list Karen! > > > Brian in south jersey > > > > I've looked at love from both sides now > From give and take, and still somehow > It's love's illusions I recall > I really don't know love at all > > --Joan, with the wisdom of the ages > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 00:31:56 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Chicago story karen told the story (thanks Karen), then asked "Would you be so mortified if it was you who had yawned ? ! ? Incredible that she is still that sensitive after all these years, after all her incredible success. Whoa. She's intense. Love her.. : )" Yes, I would "turn to stone" ! Imagine this - you get up 6 or 8 or 10 or 12 hours before Joni, have a drink at dinner, a yawn comes on - maybe you're accompanying a JMDLer but you're not one yourself - and then BOOM from the lady in the prime of her night. Yeah, Susan Lacy (Ms. American Masters) described Joni as "a tough lady". 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