From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #10 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, January 11 2006 Volume 2006 : Number 010 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A Strange Girl [Wes Taft ] World Caf=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SA=?=Tue Jan. 10 [Patti Witten ] joni ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: Boy on DJRD [Box of Paints ] Re: Boy on cover of DJRD ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Boy on cover of DJRD [Box of Paints ] Re: Boy on DJRD - that's not Joni [Wes Taft ] Joan Osborne on for Tribute [JRMCo1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:41:42 -0500 From: Wes Taft Subject: A Strange Girl Thanks for the DJRD "drag" info from several members. Had no idea. What a hoot. Once again she proves she is an artist without boundaries; a real free spirit. Still curious about the boy... and boy, how I love Don Juan's reckless daughter ; ) Wes On 1/10/06, Lori Fye wrote: > > Wes wonders: > > > Does anyone know who the kid is on the front of Don Juan's Reckless > > Daughter? I used to think it was her son until I learned more about her. > > What about the older guy (who I presume is Don Juan?). Thanks for any > info. > > I am not sure about the kid, but if the "older guy" you're asking about is > the black guy, that is actually Joni Mitchell in drag. > > Lori, > still in Berkeley > > ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:12:10 -0500 From: Patti Witten Subject: World Caf=?ISO-8859-1?B?6SA=?=Tue Jan. 10 Tue, 10 Jan 2006 - Today's playlist includes one of my faves: JONI MITCHELL REFUGE OF THE ROADS HEJIRA http://worldcafe.org Patti - -- http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:40:26 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Boy on DJRD Wes queried: >Does anyone know who the kid is on the front of Don Juan's Reckless >Daughter? I used to think it was her son until I learned more about her. >What about the older guy (who I presume is Don Juan?). Thanks for any info. And Lori responded I am not sure about the kid, but if the "older guy" you're asking about is the black guy, that is actually Joni Mitchell in drag. And my two cents: I read Joni said that "all THREE figures" on the cover art were herself. That would include the little boy. There is a photo credit to Myrtle Anderson and something in the back of my mind traces some reference of a photo (perhaps the one of young Joni in Indian dress) to a school pageant...can anyone corraborate? Now, the question I have is whether the "third" figure is the boy. Could it be the nude? Oh, Margaret! CC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:27:43 -0600 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: joni She never ceases to amaze or surprise me. While driving on a trip the other day attending to elderly mother problems I played a game I play. I pick the cd's I am going to listen to without looking at them and then am surprised and usually happy with what comes out from the speaker. Picked one, put it in, and out comes the first sounds of Mingus. I thought 'oh, no, anything but Mingus.' I have listened to parts of it since I got it but have never really listened as it didn't do much for it. I didn't like it. I decided to give it a go and listen to the whole thing at one time. After doing so have decided I still don't care much for it but one time during it I was thrilled to find more magic from Joan. Don't know which tune it was or the exact line but it said something to the effect of knowing someone and going through the entire life without ever kissing them. Now, forgetting the Greek definition, that is tragedy and could think of two or three persons that the line pertained to. Made me sad then resolved to find them and kiss them before my days are over. This am have the music on revolve and 'circle game' played. Always liked the tune but heard a line that had never got through before. 'there will be new dreams.' New dreams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ah Joan, I love ya. mack np: missy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:00:04 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Boy on DJRD I'm sure I read somewhere that the boy was a friend of the photographer or something, or the kid of the person who brought in the balloons. I will have to look it up in the extensive jmdl library! Much Joni Jamie Zoob Happy 2006 folks On 10/01/06, c Karma wrote: > > Wes queried: > > > >Does anyone know who the kid is on the front of Don Juan's Reckless > >Daughter? I used to think it was her son until I learned more about her. > >What about the older guy (who I presume is Don Juan?). Thanks for any > info. > > And Lori responded > > I am not sure about the kid, but if the "older guy" you're asking about is > the black guy, that is actually Joni Mitchell in drag. > > And my two cents: > > I read Joni said that "all THREE figures" on the cover art were herself. > That would include the little boy. There is a photo credit to Myrtle > Anderson and something in the back of my mind traces some reference of a > photo (perhaps the one of young Joni in Indian dress) to a school > pageant...can anyone corraborate? > > Now, the question I have is whether the "third" figure is the boy. Could > it > be the nude? Oh, Margaret! > > CC > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:24:19 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Boy on cover of DJRD >>> Lori Fye 01/10/06 12:23 AM >>> I am not sure about the kid, but if the "older guy" you're asking about is the black guy, that is actually Joni Mitchell in drag. Lori, still in Berkeley Donna replied: Thanks for clearing that up Lori, it was on the list sometime back too. I still chuckle when I tell you that for years and years I thought that was Jaco Patorius, I have no idea why, guess it just seemed logical at the time...db ~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:19:38 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Boy on cover of DJRD This is from the jmdl's lovely website! Hope it's informative.... I wonder what the 'previous album was, probably from Hejira? Would you say he's meant to be there? I wonder if he's in the music book for Hejira? I'll have to have a look! Much Joni Jamie Zoob "In the song, Don Juan is really the art of the tongue, it's rapping - coffee house poet talk," says Joni who dressed up as a black guy for the LP's cover and sleeve. That's her too, underneath the Indian garb. The shooting sessions were upbeat, with Joni trying on different dresses and dancing around while Norman Seeff clicked away. When he asked for another change of clothes, he hardly recognized the black character that strutted from the dressing room five minutes later. "At that point, I realized I really enjoy character acting," she says. Working again with the Camera Lucida (Lucy) machine, Joni arranged the photos agreed upon from the sessions: she blew up the shot of her as the black guy and put it in the foreground; she liked the spirit of the shot with the top hat because it symbolized what she felt was the 'magic' on the album; and she included the shot of a kid who'd been in a session for a previous album. "He was shy and had never danced before, that's why he's looking at his feet," she says. But to her, the elements were not "homogenized" enough to be the final cover shot. When she noticed a postcard of a nude with a Mickey Mouse hat and balloons on a bulletin board she felt it was "the element that was like the cherry on the pudding that makes the whole thing come together." She worked it onto the dress, partly obscuring the pubic area and figure of Mickey Mouse (for legal reasons), I added the birds, and then had an airbrusher smooth over the edges of all the photos. She then selected the background colors from the options presented by Glen Christensen, who, she says, has a "wonderful knowledge of inks." According to Joni, most reviews of the album missed its point: "Basically it has to do with turning your back on America and heading into the Third World...at the time Muslims were messing around in Washington, there were radical tensions. I was disillusioned. The songs on the album have a lot of ethnic references and there's a certain sentimentality for the North American Indian." On 09/01/06, Wes Taft wrote: > Does anyone know who the kid is on the front of Don Juan's Reckless > Daughter? I used to think it was her son until I learned more about her. > What about the older guy (who I presume is Don Juan?). Thanks for any info. > > Wes > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:18:49 -0500 From: Wes Taft Subject: Re: Boy on DJRD - that's not Joni While, I recognize the picture of her as a little girl (recalls the cowboys/germans story she tells during the 1/26/95 Gene Autry radio broadcast), and I definitely see her in the "Don Juan" shots, she just can't be the boy. Thanks to everyone for the info. Wes On 1/10/06, Box of Paints wrote: > > I'm sure I read somewhere that the boy was a friend of the photographer or > something, or the kid of the person who brought in the balloons. I will > have > to look it up in the extensive jmdl library! > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > > Happy 2006 folks > > On 10/01/06, c Karma wrote: > > > > Wes queried: > > > > > > >Does anyone know who the kid is on the front of Don Juan's Reckless > > >Daughter? I used to think it was her son until I learned more about > her. > > >What about the older guy (who I presume is Don Juan?). Thanks for any > > info. > > > > And Lori responded > > > > I am not sure about the kid, but if the "older guy" you're asking about > is > > the black guy, that is actually Joni Mitchell in drag. > > > > And my two cents: > > > > I read Joni said that "all THREE figures" on the cover art were herself. > > That would include the little boy. There is a photo credit to Myrtle > > Anderson and something in the back of my mind traces some reference of a > > photo (perhaps the one of young Joni in Indian dress) to a school > > pageant...can anyone corraborate? > > > > Now, the question I have is whether the "third" figure is the > boy. Could > > it > > be the nude? Oh, Margaret! > > > > CC > > > > > > -- > > I am a lonely Painter > I live in a Box of Paints > I'm frightened by the devil > But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... > A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 18:23:56 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: joni mack watson-bush wrote: > She never ceases to amaze or surprise me. Don't know which tune it was > or the exact line but it said something to the effect of knowing > someone and going through the entire life without ever kissing them. That was probably 'Chair in the Sky', Mack. It's a song that tries to imagines Charles Mingus' thoughts and feelings as he sees his life coming to an end: Chair in the Sky The rain slammed hard as bars It caught me by surprise Mutts of the planet And shook me down for alibis I'm waiting for the keeper to release me Debating this sentence, biding my time In memories of old friends of mine In daydreams of Birdland I see my soul on fire Burning up the bandstand Next time I'll be bigger I'll be better than ever I'll be happily attached To my cold hard cash But now.... Manhattan holds me To a chair in the sky With the Bird in my ears And boats in my eyes Goin' by..... There's things I wish I'd done Some friends I'm gonna miss *Beautiful lovers* *I never got the chance to kiss* Daydreaming drugs the pain of living Processions of missing lovers and friends Fade in And they fade out again In these daydreams of rebirth I see myself in style Rakin' in what I'm worth Next time I'll be bigger I'll be better than ever I'll be resurrected royal I'll be rich as Standard Oil But now... Manhattan holds me... To a chair in the sky With the Bird in my ears And boats in my eyes Goin' by....... Give it a few more listens, Mack. You might find some more gems in there. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:50:12 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Joan Osborne on for Tribute ...but no official mention of Allison Krauss, as rumoured, yet. http://www.musicforyouth.org/joni/index.htm - -Julius ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2006 #10 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)