From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #356 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, December 17 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 356 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Casting. Edith & The Kingpin ["mike pritchard" ] Joni Tribute and Daniel Lanois [WirlyPearl@aol.com] Re: In a "Hissing" Mood ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: In a "Hissing" Mood ["Michael Flaherty" ] Joan the Bone [Kate ] to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute [LCStanley7@aol.co] Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute [rosemjoy@aol.] Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute [Box of Paints] Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute [Em ] Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute [LCStanley7@ao] RE: Making a list checking it twice... ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Making a list checking it twice... [Jenny Goodspeed ] Joni tribute concert in New York at Carnegie Hall, Feb 1 2000 ["Jim L'Hom] Re: Joni's comin' to town! [JoniPD ] Audio interview [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Audio interview 2 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Making a list checking it twice... ["Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Casting. Edith & The Kingpin I would like to see Julianne Moore, as Edith, Christopher Walken as TK, Mike Pritchard as plainclothes cop. Directed by Hal Hartley, screenplay by John Sayles, from an original idea by Joni Mitchell. If Walken unavailable, David Geffen. mike in casting np Joan Armatrading - Turn Out The Light ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:22:25 EST From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Joni Tribute and Daniel Lanois Hi Everyone, I'm so excited about going to this Joni Tribute in New York and hopefully seeing Joni again. I've also got tickets in Row E Seats 10-12 on the right side so I'll be sitting near you Bree and across the aisle from you Julius. It will be great to have a JMDL gathering as well. Yippee! Also wanted to let you know that I noticed another concert at Carnegie Hall just 2 days later. DANIEL LANOIS will be performing and his drummer is BRIAN BLADE! Tickets are $30-$35. That might be another thing to do. He'll also be showing a film. Wonder if JONI will stay in New York to see this show. Some new exciting Joni news, finally. Don't have time to write more right now. Love to all. Pearl in Hollywood FL Carnegie Hall Daniel Lanios Friday, February 3, 2006 8:30 PM Tickets $30-$35 Daniel Lanois, Guitar and Vocals Brian Blade, Drums Remaining artists to be announced John Schaefer, Host Renowned guitarist, singer, songwriter, and producer Daniel Lanois brings his music and his experimental film Silvio to New York for the first time. Glorious pedal steel guitar playing and innovative sonics will make for an electrifying night. Presented by Carnegie Hall in partnership with the New York Guitar Festival. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:38:33 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: In a "Hissing" Mood Hi Michael, I think she would like the interaction we are having with this song. I bet you have it more right than you think! Where you're going with it makes perfect sense to me and now when I listen to it again, I will take your thoughts into consideration. It only enhances my listening pleasure! Joni couldn't object to that! Sherelle >From: "Michael Flaherty" >To: "Sherelle Smith" ,FMYFL@aol.com, >joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: In a "Hissing" Mood >Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:19:42 -0600 > >On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:46:25 +0000 > "Sherelle Smith" wrote: >>Wow! I like how that works for you when reading novels, Michael! This song >>is like a mini-novel, isn't it? > >Yes, one in which this conversation has made me realize just how much of my >own I've added in. I think perhaps those pictures in my mind made me add >an entire backstory, albeit subconsciously. > >On Edith being innocent: my take on her only works if coupled with my take >on the Kingpin. If he's a crime boss, then the very act of getting >involved with him would show a certain level of innocence--perhaps a >romantic idea of who the kingpin is as she ignores the reports of his >"crimes" and decides that the crimes "belong". > >I'm well aware that I've totally left Joni's intensions behind at this >point and am just making my own story up, but while I've never put it in >words before tonight, this really is how I've always taken the song. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:17:29 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: In a "Hissing" Mood On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:38:33 +0000 "Sherelle Smith" wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I think she would like the interaction we are having >with this song. I bet you have it more right than you >think! Where you're going with it makes perfect sense to >me and now when I listen to it again, I will take your >thoughts into consideration. It only enhances my >listening pleasure! Joni couldn't object to that! As a open as most of her lyrics are (which for me is always preferable), I'm sure you're right. My top 3 Joni albums have always been H, HoSL, and B. For a very long time H was my favorite, but for the last few years HoSL has definitely become my #1 pick. It's interesting to take some of it apart and look a bit more closely. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:36:07 -0600 From: Kate Subject: Joan the Bone Rose: > when "Joan the > Bone" got up there to sing Both Sides Now. Why did JT call her that? Does > anyone know? I have a sister named Joan, and often call her Bony Joanie or Bonehead or somesuch. Maybe just because it sorta rhymes? Then again, Joni was pretty skinny. It would suit. Kate ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Who does she think she is? Anaos Nin? http://xoetc.antville.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:41:58 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute Hi Ya'll, Where are you staying? Wouldn't it be cool if we could all stay in the same hotel or adjacent hotels? Anybody from NYC have any suggestions on what hotels we might consider? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:56:58 -0500 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute yeah, and maybe you guys can get a group discount. I'm serious - -----Original Message----- From: LCStanley7@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Cc: treegreen1@hotmail.com; bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com; nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net Sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:41:58 EST Subject: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute Hi Ya'll, Where are you staying? Wouldn't it be cool if we could all stay in the same hotel or adjacent hotels? Anybody from NYC have any suggestions on what hotels we might consider? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:57:52 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute I am really p'd that I can't come to this... I just called the company I'm doing the show for and the only date that week we are performing is Feb 1st. I can not believe that this is happening... Otherwise I'd have booked my ticket for this concert TODAY!!! Ah well... I guess I'll never EVER see Joni perform. Much Joni and Merry Festive Season Jamie Zoob On 16/12/05, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Ya'll, > > Where are you staying? Wouldn't it be cool if we could all stay in > the > same hotel or adjacent hotels? > > Anybody from NYC have any suggestions on what hotels we might > consider? > > Love, > Laura > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute I had fantasized about the Chelsea http://www.hotelchelsea.com/ but whats happening with me, is it looks like I'll be staying with a close friend in Long Island. Almost wish we were staying in town in a hotel. You all could have a big JMDL slumber party! (Jonifest?) :) Em - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Hi Ya'll, > > Where are you staying? Wouldn't it be cool if we could all stay > in the > same hotel or adjacent hotels? > > Anybody from NYC have any suggestions on what hotels we might > consider? > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:13:07 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute Em you coming?! Wow..this just gets better and better! This gets me through the winter blahs having this to look forward to. Bree >From: Em >To: LCStanley7@aol.com, joni@smoe.org >CC: treegreen1@hotmail.com, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com, >nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net >Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) > >I had fantasized about the Chelsea >http://www.hotelchelsea.com/ >but whats happening with me, is it looks like I'll be staying with a >close friend in Long Island. Almost wish we were staying in town in a >hotel. >You all could have a big JMDL slumber party! (Jonifest?) >:) >Em > >--- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Ya'll, > > > > Where are you staying? Wouldn't it be cool if we could all stay > > in the > > same hotel or adjacent hotels? > > > > Anybody from NYC have any suggestions on what hotels we might > > consider? > > > > Love, > > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:29:29 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: to those going to NYC Feb. 1st to see the Joni Tribute I know of a nice 20 room suites hotel, 4 rooms on each of it's five floors right near Carnegie Hall. We could take over a whole floor or two, even. We can get rooms for $132 per night there. It's practically on Central Park. I'm pretty sure it's where I'll stay. I'll fly in to JFK and check in to the hotel on Monday night. Will check out on Thursday. Let's all stay there! Email me if you want details, please. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:37:33 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: FW: can see the seats here... Em and others... > >_http://www.carnegiehall.org/pdf/stern_seating_chart.pdf_ >(http://www.carnegiehall.org/pdf/stern_seating_chart.pdf) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:45:37 EST From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: can see the seats here... This is cool, too, once you know where you're sitting: http://www.carnegiehall.org/common/360view_stern.html?eventid=null - -Julius In a message dated 12/16/05 9:40:57 AM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Em and others... > > > >_http://www.carnegiehall.org/pdf/stern_seating_chart.pdf_ > >(http://www.carnegiehall.org/pdf/stern_seating_chart.pdf) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:53:50 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Making a list checking it twice... I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) Okay... Julius and Gail Marianne Bree Laura Gary Pearl Patty P. and guests Em Jack Rosie Alison Patrick Kaye ....and you know there may be more..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:55:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joan the Bone - --- Kate wrote: > Rose: > > > when "Joan the > > Bone" got up there to sing Both Sides Now. Why > did JT call her that? Does > > anyone know? > > I have a sister named Joan, and often call her Bony > Joanie or Bonehead or > somesuch. Maybe just because it sorta rhymes? Then > again, Joni was pretty > skinny. It would suit. > > Kate > Not to mention her wonderful bone structure, especially the cheek bones. 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In a message dated 12/16/2005 11:54:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) Beret here. I'll be looking for a red one. Or are we color coordinating? We should have them embroidered with JMDL. Well, on second thought, then they might think we are some extremist group. And maybe they would be right... no left... no right... no left. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:25:40 EST From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Re:Joni's comin' to town! Patti...I hate to burst your bubble dear...I don't see anything in the information I've seen that indicates Ms. Mitchell will be in attendance. Don't get me wrong...I hope, for your sake, she will, although I've seen nothing to indicate that. Good luck...maybe I'm wrong. Jonily Yours, Warren Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:27:39 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... Great! I just added you. >From: djp >To: "Bree Mcdonough" , LCStanley7@aol.com, > treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:24 -0500 > >djp (aka david): G 2, 4, 6 > >At 12:53 PM 12/16/2005, Bree Mcdonough wrote: >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. >> >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) >> >>Okay... >> >>Julius and Gail >> >>Marianne >> >>Bree >> >>Laura >> >>Gary >> >>Pearl >> >>Patty P. and guests >> >>Em >> >>Jack >> >>Rosie >> >>Alison >> >>Patrick >> >>Kaye >> >> >>....and you know there may be more..... David! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:24 -0500 From: djp Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... djp (aka david): G 2, 4, 6 At 12:53 PM 12/16/2005, Bree Mcdonough wrote: >I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. > >Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) > >Okay... > >Julius and Gail > >Marianne > >Bree > >Laura > >Gary > >Pearl > >Patty P. and guests > >Em > >Jack > >Rosie > >Alison > >Patrick > >Kaye > > >....and you know there may be more..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... i live to close to ny to miss this. did anyone spring for the VIP package? jenny Bree Mcdonough wrote: Great! I just added you. >From: djp >To: "Bree Mcdonough" , LCStanley7@aol.com, > treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:24 -0500 > >djp (aka david): G 2, 4, 6 > >At 12:53 PM 12/16/2005, Bree Mcdonough wrote: >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. >> >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) >> >>Okay... >> >>Julius and Gail >> >>Marianne >> >>Bree >> >>Laura >> >>Gary >> >>Pearl >> >>Patty P. and guests >> >>Em >> >>Jack >> >>Rosie >> >>Alison >> >>Patrick >> >>Kaye >> >> >>....and you know there may be more..... David! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... i live too close to ny to miss this. did anyone spring for the VIP package? jenny Bree Mcdonough wrote: Great! I just added you. >From: djp >To: "Bree Mcdonough" , LCStanley7@aol.com, > treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:24 -0500 > >djp (aka david): G 2, 4, 6 > >At 12:53 PM 12/16/2005, Bree Mcdonough wrote: >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. >> >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) >> >>Okay... >> >>Julius and Gail >> >>Marianne >> >>Bree >> >>Laura >> >>Gary >> >>Pearl >> >>Patty P. and guests >> >>Em >> >>Jack >> >>Rosie >> >>Alison >> >>Patrick >> >>Kaye >> >> >>....and you know there may be more..... David! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:13:00 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: RE: Joni Tribute concert I'm still trying to imagine 1. Why a Toronto band (the Cowboy Junkies) which is so good with interpreting other's songs hasn't released a song from Canada's finest singer-songwriter, and 2. Which Joni song would sound great slowly way, way down. Obviously, it should be a song about murder, abuse, or danger. I think the Cowboy Junkies should try Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire. It fits their slow-motion nightmare vibe. The bass takes Joni's riff. Mike takes the obigatory "this is the end" guitar solo. I think I'll wait for the audience recording from Pomona, NY. Jim Catherine, "CBS&SF" looks really stupid. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:32:39 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: Joni Tribute concert - --- "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" wrote: > 2. Which Joni song would sound great slowly way, way down. > Obviously, it > should be a song about murder, abuse, or danger. TI! em ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:39:11 -0500 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Joni tribute concert in New York at Carnegie Hall, Feb 1 2000 Rose, On Simon's audience recording, I heard somebody (with the production company?) say something like, "It would be nice if artists would address Joni from the stage." Later (if I recall correctly) Shawn Colvin and Mary Chapin Carpenter gave their 4 cents. When it was JT's turn at the mic he pieced together four slightly imperfect lines: >>There's Joan / the bone / on the throne / where she belong.>> Then simply, >Thank you for writing this> >>it's comin' on christmas / they're cuttin down trees >>puttin puttin up reindeer >>singing songs of joy and peas >>oh i wish i had a river i could skate away on >>i wish i had a river so wiiiide >>i would teach my feet to fly >>a-waaaaaaaay-eeee Go on and sing the song, brother James. Jim Rose wondered, >I went back inside and wasn't interested in any of the performers except when "Joan the Bone" got up there to sing Both Sides Now. Why did JT call her that? Does anyone know? Funny huh? JT has always been one of my favorites.> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:17:53 +0100 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: Joni's comin' to town! Hi, dears! I'll be there... in spirit. I'm feeling very glad for you: maybe our siquomb will sing, she'll certainly be there... and you'll have a Wonderful gathering!!! Kisses for all! and Happy winter solstice! Emiliano NP: Jimmy Scott. Imagination PS: I'm diiiiiiiyng to meet you, but... !Oh Dios Mio! (listen to it with Bob's voice, please) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:29:09 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Audio interview Hi folks! As I mentioned in a previous post, I had an old videotape of Joni material recorded onto DVD and discovered there was an interview on it. It is from the Today show on the Nine Network from 1988. Joni's only tour of Australia. She was also promoting the release of the album, Chalk Mark In A Rain Storm. I have been trying to extract the video but, have been unable to due to my lack of hard drive space. In the meantime, I have managed to record the audio. It is only 4 minutes long but it is interspersed with some live performing of Number One. The interview is introduced by the original co-host of the Today show, Liz Hayes who is now a reporter for 60 Minutes. I have to say, I feel a little cultural cringe at the ignorance of the interviewer. The questions are lame but Joni saves it with some candour and extrapolation. I did edit out the outro by the other co-host, George Negus who describes Joni as a "cult singer" (grrrrrr!). Download it here: http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2UQH2L5GGJJ8131GO4YWIGN25Z Here's a screenshot from the interview: http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KVEPN2T41R8F03AYSNXOXFWID Enjoy. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:29:33 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Audio interview 2 Hi again. Continuing on from my last post, whilst watching the Joni material I had recorded onto DVD, I discovered another hidden interview. This is from the same promo tour for Chalk Mark In A Rain Storm but is much longer and way better. It is 25 minutes long so, there is much more to it. This interview is from a popular music show from 1988 called, Rock Arena on SBS. Unfortunately the show no longer exists but it was a highly intelligent format of analysis, interviews and music clips. It focussed on a variety of styles from various parts of the world as well as popular music. It was shown on SBS which is Australia's multicultural television network and hosted by a highly respected music journalist whose name escapes me (do any of the Aussies remember the name of the Rock Arena host?) so, this interview has slightly more intelligent questions than the Today show did. The reference to taking place in Greece just refers to the set. A picture of a Greek seaside villa is behind them during the interview. Download it here: http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AKB1Q6C2GO2E2IC65DRMCVWY9 Here is a screenshot of the interview: http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1XFV7PW7O5K810IQAN0G7TLN34 The host of Rock Arena: http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17BVGFON02SDW2C34DG2LQ37CM Mark in Sydney. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:05:21 -0500 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... Great..Jenny!! >i live too close to ny to miss this. > > did anyone spring for the VIP package? jenny > > Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Great! I just added you. > > >From: djp > >To: "Bree Mcdonough" >, LCStanley7@aol.com, > > treegreen1@hotmail.com, joni@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: Making a list checking it twice... > >Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:24:24 -0500 > > > >djp (aka david): G 2, 4, 6 > > > >At 12:53 PM 12/16/2005, Bree Mcdonough wrote: > >>I'm just curious to how many listers going so far. > >> > >>Who will be wearing berets and who will not? ;-) > >> > >>Okay... > >> > >>Julius and Gail > >> > >>Marianne > >> > >>Bree > >> > >>Laura > >> > >>Gary > >> > >>Pearl > >> > >>Patty P. and guests > >> > >>Em > >> > >>Jack > >> > >>Rosie > >> > >>Alison > >> > >>Patrick > >> > >>Kaye > > >> > >> > >>....and you know there may be more..... > > >David! Jenny >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #356 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)