From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #326 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, November 18 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 326 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow [Box of Paints ] RE: What was just a false alarm? Amelia E. stuff [Em ] Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow [Jim Ayson ] RE: What was just a false alarm? [Smurf ] re -Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song ["J.DAVID SAPP" ] BYT desktop pix ["Michael O'Malley" ] Fwd: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow [Jim Ayson ] Big Yellow Taxi ["MIKE HICKS" ] Re: Podcasting - now jc [Les Irvin ] Re: Joni Live 1972 question [Bob Muller ] Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow [Bob Muller ] Re: re -Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" ["Michael Flaherty" ] RE: What was just a false alarm? Amelia ["mia ortlieb" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:31:45 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow Mabuhay Jim! Welcome to the list! The recent HDCD re-issue of Shadows and Light has the tracks you are talking about. I wish that the DVD version included Don's Solo. I do like Diana Krall but I can hear a LOT of her husband in 'The Girl in the Other Room', which is not necessarily a bad thing as I'm a fan of Elvis Costello too. I hope that her next album will be more 'her' than 'him'. I like her version of Black Crow - it has a certain world weariness in delivery which I like. On 16/11/05, Jim Ayson wrote: > > I also like her fellow Canadian Diana Krall, and I was wondering what > you guys thought of Diana's cover of "Black Crow" - it's a driving > jazz version with plenty of piano and guitar solos. Not the usual > choice of cover material, but it works surprisingly well. It's on > Diana's album "The Girl in The Other Room", and live version shows up > in her "Live ay Montreal" DVD. Diana also performed solo piano version > of "A Case of You" on her "Live in Paris album. > > I just read here that someone has a copy (hopefully in mp3) of the > live version of Black Crow that was on the vinyl copy of "Shadows and > Light" but not on the CD reissue. Could I request someone to send that > to me? > > peace, > jim > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:20:06 +0000 From: Box of Paints Subject: Re: Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song Yes I have and have been meaning to buy it! Did you manage it? It looks pretty interesting. Jamie Zoob On 16/11/05, Gary Z wrote: > I'm wondering if I've just missed something...but I came across this > book rather by chance. > Has anyone seen or read this? It appears to have been published last > year. > > http://stores.channeladvisor.com/Movie-Mars/Items/0275973921? > > Thanks for any info. > > Best regards, > > Gary > Detroit > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... A Case Of You , Joni Mitchell 1971 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:19:23 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: What was just a false alarm? Amelia E. stuff wow I hadn't looked into "new" Amelia stuff in a quite a while. Looks like this group wants to make a movie. http://www.ameliaearhartmovie.com/pages/1/index.htm Not that I don't think you all aren't capable of researching your own stuff - just thought I'd throw it out there, in case, like me, you are interested and hadn't checked in a while. Another thing that struck me while looking at some pics of Amelia: Amelia, as the wife of publisher George Putnam was quite a wealthy woman. She didn't need to wonder where the next nice car was coming from, or other luxuries. So that struck me as another similarity with Joni. They were/are both women taking risks and flying and exposing themselves, who didn't *need* to for $$$ reasons. They left behind some significant creature comforts to do their hejiras. I forget what the deal was with Icarus and his pop Daedelus, why they had to leave that place they lived. That was different, right? They weren't flying just for the sake of flying, right? Wasn't there some reason they "needed" to haul ass? or? You know who remind me of Icarus, are the Cubans who took to the open water in rafts and all, to come to FL. Sheesh, talk about a "leap" of faith. Ok, sorry, going on and on. Feeling somewhat chatty, I guess. Wish we could all just sit together and have coffee. :) Em - --- Em wrote: > I never heard that, about inaccurate maps. So they thought the island > was closer? (Howland Is, was that it?) > I've been sorta/kinda following this since about 1977, when I was > obsessed with Amelia for about a year. Seems the last reasonable > conclusion anyone reached, is that they plain old ran out of gas. > Interesting though, I never heard about the map thing! > gonna check it out NOW......... while I should be working.... > :) > Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:38:13 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: What was just a false alarm? Amelia E. stuff just read a quick recap of the myth, and it would appear that pop Daedelus made it OK, while son Icarus crashed because he got fancy and flew too close to the sun. So he was having fun with it..rather than sticking to the original purpose of the flight, which was to have transportation to escape. He "played" and it cost him. He was not content to sit on the seat and RIDE the damn motorcycle, noooooooooooo, he had to do handstands on the bars and wheelies and jumps. So again, taking risk beyond that necessary for mere survival. To me, Joni's risk is being naked and peeling away even further layers, to write these songs. And I think after Hejira, her willingness to "peel" waned. So we don't get the naked poet anymore. No more BLUE for you! But I surely could be wrong about that. Thats just my hunch. I'm glad Joni's fine and dandy and sitting pretty whereever she is. And I think its AWESOME that she gave up the original art to Court and Spark for that auction. Em ps: I used to be very familiar with alot of Greek mythology - funny how someone could forget that stuff. Seems it would be ingrained, once you learned it as a child. Guess not. - --- Em wrote: > Another thing that struck me while looking at some pics of Amelia: > Amelia, as the wife of publisher George Putnam was quite a wealthy > woman. She didn't need to wonder where the next nice car was coming > from, or other luxuries. So that struck me as another similarity with > Joni. They were/are both women taking risks and flying and exposing > themselves, who didn't *need* to for $$$ reasons. > They left behind some significant creature comforts to do their > hejiras. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:59:38 +0800 From: Jim Ayson Subject: Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow On 11/17/05, Richard Flynn wrote: > "Black Crow," and indeed the whole version that was on vinyl is on the > current CD of S&L: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002GXI/ Thanks Richard - I had the old CD (with its omissions) for the longest time and am amazed to find out about the reissue just now. Finally the whole set comes back!! - - jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:41:17 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: RE: What was just a false alarm? mia wrote: << So maybe we can also say that men were responsible for bringing Amelia down, and men are also responsible for bringing Joni down (physically and emotionally). >> But then again, it was men who put both of them up there in the first place! --Smurf - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:36:17 -0600 From: "J.DAVID SAPP" Subject: re -Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song awesome book highly recommended peace, david No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/173 - Release Date: 11/16/05 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:57:45 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Yellow Taxi desktop She looks so cute! Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:24:56 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: So - Why Do You Love Joni?:) Because Joni has gotten me through so many times, good and not-so-good, and because I always discovered something new within her music at a critical time in my life ... her songs became the soundtrack for my travels, on the road and spiritually. Lori, who first discovered Joni through "Hejira," just as I was beginning my own hejira ... who literally left my man at a North Dakota junction ... who had just started reading Carlos Casteneda's books about Don Juan Mateus when DJRD was releasted ... who went to Staten Island to see my friend Sharon ... the list goes on and on and on ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:00:28 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: BYT desktop pix Very nice desktop Mark - fresh and fun. Thanks. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:00:04 +0800 From: Jim Ayson Subject: Fwd: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow On 11/17/05, Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Being a jazz fan what is your favorite Joni album? Hi Bree, thanks for the welcome! I would have to say "Shadows and Light" because of that incredible band with Jaco Pastorious, Pat Metheny, and Michael Brecker. I enjoy that band's interpretations of the"Mingus" material better than the studio version. Of the jazz Joni tunes my favorite would probably be "The Dry Cleaner from Des Moines" from both Mingus and Shadows and Light. The lyrics are a lot of fun and go by so fast, Joni has that smooth vocalese type phrasing down pat, and it's a bass player's dream (listening to jaco go crazy on the live version is always a hoot). "hejira" , "court and spark", "the hissing of summer lawns" and "miles of aisles" are probably next on the list. Joni's cover of Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross' "Twisted" from Court n spark was just great. I also love the jazz big band arrangements from "travelogue" of some tunes like "God Must be a Boogie Man" "You Dream Flat Tires" and "Be Cool" . Not to say that I don't enjoy joni's other phases but the "jazz period" is undoubtedly my favorite. - - jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:24:50 -0500 From: "MIKE HICKS" Subject: Big Yellow Taxi Could we please get the Big Yellow Taxi screen saver back? I accidentally deleted it. Mike NP: Byrds - Eight Miles High ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:07:45 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Podcasting - now jc [earlier, the all-Joni list was chatting about Podcasting, and the fact that we will be putting Joni-based JMDL-penned podcasts on the website for the world to download] On 11/17/05, Gerald A. Notaro wrote: > > A spectacular idea. There is more expertise on Joni in this group than > anywhere else in the world. She is lucky to have so many people devoted to > her work. > OK then... here's a call to everyone who's wanted to - - tell their Joni story - - compile and comment on their favorite Joni songs - - go on a Joni rant or rave - - do any audio-based Joni thing imaginable.... We'll put it on the website. People will listen. You'll be a star. Contact me for details. Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:55:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Live 1972 question Hi Matt, I don't have that particular bootleg BUT I do know the tracklisting and by looking at it I can tell you that it's a combination of performances. Some of the album was culled from the classic Joni-James Taylor concert from 1970, the balance (including the YTMOIAR that you have) looks to be from the same recordings that spawned the "Saturday Songs" bootleg from 1972, an appearance in London on 5/26/72, broadcast as "Sounds For Saturday" on the BBC. I do have the complete Joni-James show and the "Saturday Songs" bootleg too, if you need any more information about them. Hope that helps. Bob NP: ELO, "Do Ya" MattJones wrote: I was doing some searching the other day and ran across a live performance of You Turn Me On I'm A Radio from 72. The download was called "Kept On By Her Own Devices," and was obviously taken from a live recording. Does anyone know anything about this or does anyone have the complete concert? - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:04:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow Hi Jim, and welcome to the JMDL - thanks for sharing your new excitement(s) with all of us. Funny to hear "Coyote" being called a usual suspect that exposed people to Joni, I've never heard that before. I love Joni covers (as you may already know or will soon find out if you stick around awhile), and Diana's covers are exquisite. I really like Black Crow anyway (Hejira remains my fave Joni), and I love the extra musical fluorishes that Krall & band bring to the table. Black Crow isn't all that unusual a cover choice, it's in the top 25 Joni covers, matter of fact, and I've recently acquired some very nice and unique new ones as well. Enjoy your continued re-discovery, look forward to hearing more from you. Bob NP (Now playing): The Brothers Johnston, "I'll Be Good To You" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:11:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: re -Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song Just to 2nd David's opinion, he was kind enough to loan it to me and it was awesome as he says - matter of fact I'd call it a must read for the Joni fan, it's as intelligent an analysis of her music as I've ever seen (except for us of course). Being a huge Elvis C fan as well, I dug it from cover to cover. Bob NP: Ben McPeek, "Both Sides Now" "J.DAVID SAPP" wrote: awesome book highly recommended - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:43:45 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" It's a sad mention, but they were interviewing John Lennon's killer, Mark Chapman. They were asking him about the music he plays, and he said he's working on some Joni Mitchell songs. (I'm not sure about the exact words). I sure hope he doesn't come out with a cover of one of her songs. What would it be? "Trouble Child"??? Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:53:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" Ugh! I hope I never have to add any of his covers to our collection. Bob NP: The Shins, "Gone For Good" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:40:24 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:53:55 -0800 (PST) Bob Muller wrote: > of her songs. What would > it be? "Trouble Child"???> > > Ugh! I hope I never have to add any of his covers to >our collection. > > Bob If it happens you should exempt it, Bob. No one should buy or even listen to anything he does. Inside Edition shouldn't interview him. Celebrity was exactly what he was after. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:44:42 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Diana Krall's cover of Black Crow On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:00:04 +0800 Jim Ayson wrote: > Not to say that I don't enjoy joni's other phases but >the "jazz > period" is undoubtedly my favorite. > > - jim I like your list! I would add DJRD. Of course, there are many nights when only B and FtR will do. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 03:17:19 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" Hi, Yes I heard this one as well but I have quite a different take. For some reason I likened this to the film "Point of No Return" (international title: "The Assassin") where Bridget Fonda's character listened to Nina Simone's music to calm her. Or maybe because it speaks to her -- I can't quite recall that part. When I heard about Chapman's admission to listening Joni, that connection came tomind right away. Just my two cents. Joseph in chilly Chapel Hill np: Keren Ann "Not Going Anywhere" FMYFL@aol.com a icrit : It's a sad mention, but they were interviewing John Lennon's killer, Mark Chapman. They were asking him about the music he plays, and he said he's working on some Joni Mitchell songs. (I'm not sure about the exact words). I sure hope he doesn't come out with a cover of one of her songs. What would it be? "Trouble Child"??? Jimmy - --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Tilichargez le ici ! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:23:54 -0600 From: "mia ortlieb" Subject: RE: What was just a false alarm? Amelia Em wrote:<>....... Em, I didn't think I would find it, but sure enough, here it is... in my 7th laboratory on Topographic Maps and Aerial Photographs from the 4th edition "Laboratory Manual in Physical Geology." I'm typing quickly, so there may be a few flubs in here ( plus my fingers are flippin freezing!): "In 1937, American aviator Amelia Earhart and her navigator Fred Noonan attempted to make the first round-the-world flight. But two-thirds of the way around the globe, they disappeared in the South Pacific Ocean. Earhart and Noonan were trying to reach tiny Howland Island, a mere speck of land just north of the equator, when they vanished. It appears that their flight plan gave the wrong coordinates for the island. "Earhart's flight plan listed the island's coordinates as 0o49' north latitude, 176o43'west longitude. But the actual coordinates are 0o48'north latitude, 176o38' west longitude (Barker, V., New Haven Register, Dec. 21 ,1986:A48). In the open ocean, with nothing else to guide them and limited fuel, such a miss was fatal. Investigators who researched their disappearance thought that Earhart and Noonan were on course and would certainly have reached Howland Island - had they been given the correct coordinates. Thus, their demise probably was due to a mapmaker's mistake, or to the flight planner's inability to correctly read a map." (The little o's are substituted here for the degree symbol) Now that I've got maps on the brain, it's got me thinking of Joni's Blue Motel Room "I've got road maps of 2 dozen states, I've got Coast-to-Coast...." -- Every song on that album is its own little Hejira. Mia - who could really use a little Hejira of her own right now, preferrably in a warmer climate...brrrr... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:20:24 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Joni mention on "Inside Edition" - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Flaherty" > If it happens you should exempt it, Bob. No one should buy or even listen > to anything he does. Inside Edition shouldn't interview him. > > Celebrity was exactly what he was after. > Amen! This was exactly my reaction when I heard about this. He's getting the attention he craved to begin with. Sometimes the supply and demand of sensationalism makes me sick to my stomach. Artifice, brutality and innocence. Take your pick. 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