From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #314 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 6 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 314 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Toronto Star article on Kate Bush with a tiny Joni mention [Catherine McK] 'Now Playing' [Chuck Eisenhardt ] For free ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Banquet - a drug song??? ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 'Now Playing' ["Mark Scott" ] a Joni mention, and some segues ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: a Joni mention, and some segues [Bob Muller ] Re: a Joni mention, and some segues [Smurf ] Chat, anyone? [Bob Muller ] back to the fold JC [debra pease ] Re: back to the fold JC [JoniPD ] Re: back to the fold JC [RoseMJoy@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Toronto Star article on Kate Bush with a tiny Joni mention This article is from today's Toronto Star. _____________________________________________________ Lost and found After a 12-year absence, British rock enigma Kate Bush returns to the fertile musical landscape she helped create GREG QUILL ENTERTAINMENT COLUMNIST In the weird cast of eccentric, renegade geniuses credited with having influenced the course of late 20th-century pop music, Kate Bush is perhaps weirder, more eccentric, more of a renegade and more influential than most. Not that she cares. "I've never been aware of inspiring others," she says over the phone from her home in Reading, England, on the eve of the release this Tuesday of Aerial, her first album in 12 years. "That was never my intention. You do the best you can ... that's all I care about." A child prodigy who burst into public view in 1978, Bush churned out seven extemporaneous, genre-defying albums in the following 15 years. She also released a string of groundbreaking videos, undertook one strange and fantastic tour before retreating, apparently forever, to her home studio, and in 1993, disappeared completely, leaving a legion of mythically devoted fans puzzled and gasping for more. Bush might have remained one of the curiosities of the 1980s Britpop explosion had it not been for a steady stream in subsequent years of performers who clearly owe much to her vision and style. Hip-hop star Antwan "Big Boi" Patton of OutKast has called Bush his "No. 1 musical influence next to Bob Marley." And if that's hard to believe, try listening to Bjvrk, Sarah McLachlan, Dido, Fiona Apple or Tori Amos without conjuring Kate Bush. Her passion, frankness and musical daring with electronic and symphonic structures has its roots in 1970s British prog rock, but Bush, who's now 47, is one of those rare and preternaturally gifted artists whose work stands outside time, impervious to musical trends and changes in social, economic and political patterns. In fact, the time away from the music biz whirl has passed so quickly for her that she barely feels it, she says. "I've been having a good time. I've been raising my son (Bertie, aged 7), and living a quiet life, shopping, cleaning my house, going to movies with friends. And I've been recording, taking my time. Once I start recording, I have to make it as good as I can. This album didn't start out to be as big as it is, but by the time it was finished, I'd been at it for almost five years. I have a reputation for being overambitious." Cheerful and talkative  except when it comes to details of her personal life  Bush sounds genuinely at a loss to explain her reputation in the media as a wacky recluse. "Reclusive, mysterious and weird  it's ridiculous, isn't it? Just because I've chosen to live a normal life, and not in the public eye. I've never promoted myself, I'm not a celebrity, I'm a worker, and I don't see a reason to do interviews unless there's something to talk about, a piece of work. "I don't hide from people. I go shopping, I go to restaurants and movies ... yet somehow I'm made out to be some mad hermit. It's too much. "I think my cult following got grumpy waiting so long," she laughs. That all sounds a bit disingenuous in light of the number of high-end European art and fashion photographers whose ubiquitous images of Bush created at least the impression of a showbiz diva between 1978 and 1990, when an eight-CD anthology appeared in the box set This Woman's Work  complete with a colour booklet containing nothing but these extravagant portraits. `Reclusive, mysterious and weird ... Just because I've chosen to live a normal life.' In lieu of personal appearances  erroneous reports of stage fright that have apparently prevented her from touring after 1979 are another bone of contention with her  fans have had nothing to fuel their addiction other than Bush's wild, rich and allusive music, and magnificent, stylized graphics. "I never consciously gave up touring," she explains. "I only did just one, in 1979 and 1980, and I think other people gave up on me. I remember it as a fantastic experience, like being on the road with a circus. We're working on some ideas about doing some shows to promote this album, but it's early days." And she says she has no regrets about the image she helped create, though Aerial comes unadorned with large and ornate likenesses of her, and instead features realistic images of the ornaments of an ordinary village life  washing on the line, a view from the kitchen window, a placid seashore, pigeons in the yard. "Graphics are important," she adds, by way of explaining the effort that went into designing the honeyed landscape artwork for Aerial. "This may sound pompous, but I'm uncomfortable working with the CD format. I used to work in vinyl, when the artwork was big, and said something significant about an artist. "And I loved double albums. They indicated that the music was conceptual, too important to be reduced, and you could open up the covers and get lost in the pictures and information inside. "I liked it when an album was 20 minutes of music a side, with a breathing space in the middle. I think CDs are too long for people with short attention spans, people who are distracted by all the technological tools we have these days." The Aerial format, she explains, is a respectful nod to the great days of vinyl. The package contains two discs, both around 40 minutes in length, the first a collection of single songs, the second a conceptual piece that unfolds as a musical panorama encompassing the span of a single day, with vast dreams and powerful reminiscences inspired by simple sounds of nature, the words of passers-by and routine chores. The album lacks the frenetic pace and bluster of her last conceptual effort, 1985's Hounds Of Love, and achieves an almost elegiac, English pastoral grace. Several songs feature just vocals and piano, and expose matters closer to her heart than the turgid melodramas of her earlier work: the joy childhood brings in "Bertie," memories of her late mother in the eerie but strangely comforting waterscape "A Coral Room," the bucolic "Sky Of Honey" with its compelling echoes of Vaughan Williams. Orchestral charts were written by award-winning composer Michael Kamen, who died of a heart attack at age 55 in 2003. They were recorded just weeks before his death. "He was a lovely person, very talented and brave," Bush recalls. "I'd worked with him on other albums, and he was never offended if I suggested changes  he'd rewrite arrangements on the spot, even with the orchestra waiting in the studio. I admire his work for its visual qualities." While it's debatable, as acolytes claim, that Kate Bush's impact on Western music and female artists in particular is as profound as Joni Mitchell's, it can't be denied that Bush has attracted more than a fair share of serious attention from new artists in the years since her so-called self-exile began. This includes R&B singer Maxwell, whose reworking of Bush's childbearing chronicle "This Woman's Work" was a hit in 2001, as well as male-dominated British rock acts Placebo and The Futureheads, who scored a hit last year with a version of her "Hounds of Love." Her beginnings were more than auspicious. Bush was "discovered" at age 16 by Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour. He who paid for an orchestra to back her distinctive, hyperbolic soprano on demos of several elaborately theatrical, sexually loaded romantic fantasies that would become the core, three years later, of her hair-raising debut, The Kick Inside. Though she had nothing in common with the post-punk, new wave acts with whom she shared the high end of the charts  she was genteel, well educated, and possessed of aesthetic and artistic sensibilities that had less to do with rock than with the progressive side of opera, world music, jazz, musical theatre and epic cinema  she became the darling of British prog-rock. Peter Gabriel gave her a nod by recording the moving duet, "Don't Give Up" with her in 1986. Procol Harum member Gary Brooker's organ and vocal contributions anchor Aerial, an exotic two-CD set. Some pieces on Aerial will remind fans of the daring Kate Bush of old: "Pi" is little more than a series of numbers sung with dramatic extremes of emotion; "King Of The Mountain," the first single, is a contemplation on celebrity and its cost, with direct references to Elvis; in "Mrs. Bartolozzi," a washing machine becomes a sexual allegory in the romantic fantasies of a cleaning woman. "After seven years with Bertie, I know a lot about washing machines," Bush chuckles. "He keeps me normal. I never wanted to be famous. I just want to create nice music, and I believe celebrity threatens creativity. "What's important to me is to have a soul  and my lovely little boy." Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:41:47 -0500 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: 'Now Playing' I was thinking about a range of possibly usual variants of 'Now playing' for use in signing off a post. Actually, since I sometimes wonder REALLY if such and such a song WERE truly playing in the moment (and not just ended a while back), I think employment of various related acronyms might even improve truth in messaging....Lord, knows I've fibbed a little here....so..... NP: 'now playing' NPIMH 'now playing in my head' (seen this one actually used) JFPAWA: the above-mentioned 'just finished playing a while ago' PY: 'played yesterday' PSR: 'played sometime recently' IOIWNPIMH: 'if only it were NOT playing in my head, as in 'IOIWNPIMH 'American Pie' POPS: 'plan on playing soon' NPITUA: 'now playing in the upstairs apartment' BICOHTB: 'but I can only hear the bass' well, you get the idea. there may be more. NPIMH: I Will Not Be Broken, Bonnie Raitt Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:36:58 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: For free >From the Economist style guide: "Free is an adjective or an adverb, so you cannot have or do anything for free. Either you have it free or you have it for nothing." What would Joni say? mike in barcelona NP Solaris - Photek< Artistic license allows you to use words anyway you please including the making up of words :~} Npimh jahmobethere ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:42:21 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Banquet - a drug song??? WATCHING kids grow?! Not exactly how I'd describe raising kids but then again joni is on the outside looking in for this one... >"Some turn to Jesus Some turn to Heroin Some turn to rambling round Looking for a clean sky and drinking stream. Some watch the paint peel off Some watch the kids grow Some watch their stocks and bonds Waiting for that big deal American Dream." What I love about these lines is that Joni really nails human choices in a nutshell kinda way: Religion Drugs Nature Family Simplicity Goals Mia< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:07:51 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: 'Now Playing' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Eisenhardt" > POPS: 'plan on playing soon' > NPITUA: 'now playing in the upstairs apartment' > BICOHTB: 'but I can only hear the bass' > > well, you get the idea. there may be more. > > NPIMH: I Will Not Be Broken, Bonnie Raitt > > Chuck With me it's usually: IBPTIMC- I've been playing this in my car Mark E. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:57:10 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: a Joni mention, and some segues My friend Judy, who is a great environmentalist (she works for the DEP) and is always teaching me good new things, sent me an article from an environmental magazine. Here's the Joni part: "There are other social and economic arguments about the virtues and vices of chain stores, of course, all of them beyond the scope of this column. But at base, I think, a large factor in our objections to these stores -- particularly in the environmental argument against them -- is aesthetic. And there's no denying that looks matter; our love of nature's beauty is a big reason we care about the environment, after all. Squatting dumbly behind their vast aprons of blacktop, America's suburban chain stores are as ugly as they are banal, together comprising a built environment that exemplifies Joni Mitchell's song about paving paradise for a parking lot. And she didn't even have a verse about runoff." (Entire article is at: http://www.grist.org/comments/soapbox/2005/11/03/akst/index.html ) Yay! Don't you just love to see her name in print? I think "paved paradise" may be her most famous, oft-quoted chicken-scratching. Do you agree? Which reminds me....last year it was comin' on Christmas and I was travelling in my son's vehicle. Chris and Michael were listening to some sports radio show (w/ Chris Berman, I think) when all of a sudden Mama lets out a big Joni whoop. "Oh my God, he just mentioned Joni Mitchell!" My boys exchanged glances and start shaking their heads ("Uh oh....there she goes again!"l) as I continued: "Joni MItchell wrote that! Joni Mitchell wrote "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot" and even your sports guys know that. See how great she is? Even Chris Berman quotes Joni!" My sons tease me all the time about my JMOCD. I have so many stories to share, but here's just one quick one. Michael (21) had a tonsillectomy AND deviated septum surgery last June. Both at once...ouch! Well, he took a while to come out of the anesthesia, and I was getting a little worried. (I worry sometimes.). FINALLY, the doctor said he was awake and we could go see him. He looked awful...all bandaged and swollen and red eyed, with parched lips. Well, I can't conceal emotion -- what I'm feeling is always written on my face -- and he must have seen the concern. So my sweet boy used some heart and humor to comfort his mom. He said, in a horribly raspy hurting voice: "Mom. I meant to ask you a favor." Me, totally open and at his disposal: "What, honey?" Michael: "I meant to ask you to bring me some Joni Mitchell CDs." Me, coming on as bright as a neon light: "Really??? You want some Joni CDs?" (thinking: "He's *finally* getting it! The anesthesia is bringing out his deepest feelings"!) Michael rasps: "Yeah, I need them for a frisbee tournament." Argh! I thought I had him! But the sweet part, of course, was seeing him, despite HIS pain, trying to erase the worry from my face. And he succeeded. Just thought I'd share! Love, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: a Joni mention, and some segues Without a doubt - between "paved paradise, put up a parking lot" and "you don't know what you got 'til it's gone", there's typically 3-4 articles every week that quote it. Les was keeping track of them for awhile: http://www.jmdl.com/yellow/ But I think he must have thrown in the towel because the most recent one shows to be from May of this year. (And I ain't knocking Les, to be sure - he's the hardest working man in cyberspace as far as I can tell.) Also, I'm sure that Smurf was delighted to see Google's newest search engine, Google Print, that searches entire texts of books. It's been a little controversial, but for now it's a good tool to find lots of new "Joni in Fiction" entries. http://print.google.com/ (2,270 returns when searching for "Joni Mitchell", of course most of them are non-fiction.) Bob NP: The Postal Service, "Nothing Better" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:35:55 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: a Joni mention, and some segues - --- Bob wrote: > Also, I'm sure that Smurf was delighted to see > Google's newest search engine, Google Print, that > searches entire texts of books. It's been a little > controversial, but for now it's a good tool to find > lots of new "Joni in Fiction" entries. > http://print.google.com/ > (2,270 returns when searching for "Joni Mitchell", > of course most of them are non-fiction.) Thanks so much, Bob. I was looking for somehing to do with the rest of my life. - --Smurf __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:05:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Chat, anyone? http://www.jmdl.com/chat.cfm - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) From: debra pease Subject: back to the fold JC Hi All, I am sure there are still a few of you out there who remembers me as Catgirl. I left the list several times and had returned a few months ago to lurk. I left before because my life was in such a mess and I felt miserable that I felt like I had nothing to offer and even got into a fight off list with Wally. Well, I was planning on writing a few months ago but was so busy with my wonderful new life that i never got around to it. I had been in a miserable relationship and trying to figure out how to get out of it. Well, as soon as I got out of it the door to a fabulous life opened for me and three months later was married. That was well over a year ago so Brian and Mags, YES, it does work. However, I got blindsided a few weeks ago with the death of my only child, Michael, age 22, in a car crash down in Florida. It has left me numb and so filled with pain and sorrow. So, I am back to being miserable again. I have missed so many of you and wanted to share my joy, now I have nothing to share but sorrow. We are having a benefit in memory of my son for my 4 year old grand daughter, Autumn in Lansdale, PA. I trimmed my finger nails and am back to playing guitar again which is a soothing balm for me. I plan on singing Michael from Mountains in dedication to him. When he was young, he would urge me to sing that song to him and would chime in. I am also playing Night Ride Home, another song that we would sing together. Memeories of us driving in the car with him by side and singing together, *I love the man beside me...* If anyone is local and would like to attend the event, please email me privately. I am sorry for such back in fourth commitment to the list and miss the conversations..... Hugs to all! Catgirl aka Debi And if you don't know where you're going, Any road will take you there - -George Harrison - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:41:35 +0100 From: JoniPD Subject: Re: back to the fold JC Oh, Debi, that's so Devastating! Michael from Mountains. Let me take my STAS album (always so close) and put it for you, for me, for everyone of us. Please, Debi, you've got always much to share. We want to hear from you, from your sorrow today, from your joy of other days (in the past, and in the Future) Well, you know, even if you don't have the strength/humour to write... it's good to know you're here) A big transoceanic hug to you, Catgirl. Emiliano NP: I Had A King debra pease wrote: >Hi All, >I am sure there are still a few of you out there who remembers me as Catgirl. I left the list several times and had returned a few months ago to lurk. I left before because my life was in such a mess and I felt miserable that I felt like I had nothing to offer and even got into a fight off list with Wally. >Well, I was planning on writing a few months ago but was so busy with my wonderful new life that i never got around to it. I had been in a miserable relationship and trying to figure out how to get out of it. Well, as soon as I got out of it the door to a fabulous life opened for me and three months later was married. That was well over a year ago so Brian and Mags, YES, it does work. However, I got blindsided a few weeks ago with the death of my only child, Michael, age 22, in a car crash down in Florida. It has left me numb and so filled with pain and sorrow. So, I am back to being miserable again. I have missed so many of you and wanted to share my joy, now I have nothing to share but sorrow. We are having a benefit in memory of my son for my 4 year old grand daughter, Autumn in Lansdale, PA. I trimmed my finger nails and am back to playing guitar again which is a soothing balm for me. I plan on singing Michael from Mountains in dedication to him. When he was ! > young, he > would urge me to sing that song to him and would chime in. I am also playing Night Ride Home, another song that we would sing together. Memeories of us driving in the car with him by side and singing together, *I love the man beside me...* If anyone is local and would like to attend the event, please email me privately. I am sorry for such back in fourth commitment to the list and miss the conversations..... >Hugs to all! >Catgirl aka Debi > > >And if you don't know where you're going, >Any road will take you there >-George Harrison > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:50:09 EST From: RoseMJoy@aol.com Subject: Re: back to the fold JC Oh Catgirl, I am so so sorry. rosie in nj ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #314 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)