From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #282 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, October 4 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 282 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Australian Idol Quotes Joni [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: not to blame [Jamie Zubairi ] Joni bootlegs [Garret ] Joni bootlegs [Garret ] Joni bootlegs [Garret ] jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions ["Donna Savage" ] Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions [Bob Muller ] Re: "Like Joni" ["Suze Cameron" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:02:46 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Australian Idol Quotes Joni When introducing the final 9 group song, The Radicals, You Get What You Give; James: "Now with a song that Joni Mitchell describes as one of the best songs of the last 30 years..." Andrew G: "Joni Mitchell never lies" Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 11:33:44 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: not to blame Succinctly, the story is a fiction... or it could be attached to several people in the media at the time. Browne accused her of labelling him with this song (me thinks the singer-songwriter doth protest too much). Joni just lets sh!t fly, if it sticks, so be it... Who is the 'they' that you mean? Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- mack watson-bush wrote: > To the knowing here. Listening to 'not to blame.' > One of the tunes I have > again thanks to limewire. Only had the cassette > before and rarely listen to > them anymore as they go the way of the 8 track. > Have often wondered and want > to know, succinctly, is the story true. Did Browne > really do it? Was it as > they say? > > mack > > np: Barry Manilow- Ships ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:04:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Joni bootlegs HI everyone, I recently offererd to copy any of the Joni bootlegs i have for anyone who wanted them. I got two replies to this and stupidly deleted them both before getting in touch. I can't remember who you are. I glanced at them both and said "i'll reply later" and then did not. Sorry. Please email me again (and anyone else interested) Thanks GARRET NP- Joni, Just Like Me (24/10/66) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:04:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Joni bootlegs HI everyone, I recently offererd to copy any of the Joni bootlegs i have for anyone who wanted them. I got two replies to this and stupidly deleted them both before getting in touch. I can't remember who you are. I glanced at them both and said "i'll reply later" and then did not. Sorry. Please email me again (and anyone else interested) Thanks GARRET NP- Joni, Just Like Me (24/10/66) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:04:24 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Joni bootlegs HI everyone, I recently offererd to copy any of the Joni bootlegs i have for anyone who wanted them. I got two replies to this and stupidly deleted them both before getting in touch. I can't remember who you are. I glanced at them both and said "i'll reply later" and then did not. Sorry. Please email me again (and anyone else interested) Thanks GARRET NP- Joni, Just Like Me (24/10/66) - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:53:29 -0400 From: "Donna Savage" Subject: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions Hi to Jonifans everywhere! Here goes - my first post ever. A tad scary as I've never written any post in my life and I suddenly feel vulnerable. I've read tons of yours though and similar to what someone said earlier, I am amazed and admiring of all of you who diligently discuss our beloved Joni and her life. Thanks to you all. It's been an education! I've reaped sooo much and have given zilch. Sorry. Here's a little contribution... Years ago, I was thrilled to find jonimitchell.com and spent hours reading about and looking at pics of my fav musician in the whole world. Finally, a place to learn about my mysterious, fabulous Joni who I've been enamoured with all these 30+ years! I fell in love with her at age 15. It was the live "Rainy Night House" that did it for me on a jukebox in my little hometown teen hangout. I'd heard her off and on before on the radio but didn't pay too much attention until I heard this. Ohhhh. I went out the very next day and bought Ladies of the Canyon, Miles of Aisles, then Court and Spark a while later, then...you get the picture. I used to wonder why I was so engrossed in Joni and sometimes felt a little guilty about it. What was it about her that enraptured me so? And at such a young age? I think I was simply in love with love and all the sweet and sometimes melancholy stuff that goes along with it. Ahhh. Joni sure stoked those embers in me! Plus I was enamoured with the hippie lifestyle and to me, Joni embodied all that to my young eyes. I strove to be like her as much as my conservative upbringing would allow. Me with my wavy brown hair! Little did I know back then how Joni herself strove NOT to be the hippie chick I thought her to be! I diligently sought out converts to her and repeatedly failed. A few of my friends indulged me - humored me a bit and pretended to like her. Hmph. It was maddening! Why in the world couldn't they see her GENIUS?! You'd think it would've gotten better in college, but no. No Joni people to discuss the deep things in life with. By then, most in my crowd were gravitating to mainstream blah - or bluegrass (nice, but I could only take so much of it), new wave (never understood it), or worst - disco. NO offense, please, anyone... I hid in my Joni stuff, Steely Dan, Neil Young and the like. I do remember a group that played on the campus grounds - an awesome bluegrass band who did a Joni cover! It was an amazing rendition of "For the Roses"! Can you imagine it in your head? Fast boom-chuck with heavy dobro and mandolin? I was thrilled! Someone knows her! Appreciates her! And why am I melting here on the pavement? Why does this woman's stuff affect me so? Btw, anyone reading who went to ASU in Boone, NC in the mid-to-late 70s? Remember all the bluegrass everything everywhere? Who was that band? Wish I had a recording to give to you, Mr. Muller! Okay. Zip ahead to Seattle Wa, 1979. That's when I up and moved to Wa and stayed there for 9 years. Still no Joni people! Nowhere! "I must be weird", I finally concluded. By then, marriage, new baby and life swallowed me up into a new and different season of life. I kinda forgot about Joni - Kinda felt that this obsession with her was not healthy! Time to grow up! To help my reasoning, sometimes on the radio I'd hear some eighties sounding song of hers. ugh. Is this my beloved Joni and what in the world is happening?! Plus, to further the growing up mission, all my albums back home were being kindly and generously distributed by my mom to friends and sibs over the years of my absence (unbeknowingst (sp) to me!) Ha! Anyway... Okay. Then, in 1988 I found her all over again. I was Joni born again, again. No sacrilege meant here as I'm not bashing Christianity. Just using that expression as a means to convey my exhilarating re-entry into Joni-ness. Since my re-entry, I so appreciate a lot of the stuff that sounded loathe to my ears at one time. I fell back in love with her music and re-experienced it with more mature eyes and realised her genius all the more. Exciting and gratifying. I still haven't heard ALL and don't own her eighties material but want to and will someday! There is and will always be some of her stuff that just doesn't suit me, but she will ever be my all-time favourite - my choice of music to go back to time and time again. I never tire of her for the reason that I do believe she writes in and with a lot of truth and light and that one thing makes her music and lyrics almost alive. Again, thanks to all of you! You are the Joni people! If I never post again, please know that I'm here - interested in all that's being discussed and said - - happy to know that I'm not alone. Well, forgive me, this long first time post. I have more boiling around for later (maybe)! All the Best! Donna in NC p.s. My firstborn to marry in BC, Canada this month! Wonder if I'll spot Joni? Any good places to hear music while on Vanc. Island? Pardon my ignorance, but is Joni's p/t house on V. Island or on the other coast of the mainland? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:30:42 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions I love your first post Donna, Welcome to the JMDL!!! Rosie in NJ - -----Original Message----- From: Donna Savage To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:53:29 -0400 Subject: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions Hi to Jonifans everywhere! Here goes - my first post ever. A tad scary as I've never written any post in my life and I suddenly feel vulnerable. I've read tons of yours though and similar to what someone said earlier, I am amazed and admiring of all of you who diligently discuss our beloved Joni and her life. Thanks to you all. It's been an education! I've reaped sooo much and have given zilch. Sorry. Here's a little contribution... Years ago, I was thrilled to find jonimitchell.com and spent hours reading about and looking at pics of my fav musician in the whole world. Finally, a place to learn about my mysterious, fabulous Joni who I've been enamoured with all these 30+ years! I fell in love with her at age 15. It was the live "Rainy Night House" that did it for me on a jukebox in my little hometown teen hangout. I'd heard her off and on before on the radio but didn't pay too much attention until I heard this. Ohhhh. I went out the very next day and bought Ladies of the Canyon, Miles of Aisles, then Court and Spark a while later, then...you get the picture. I used to wonder why I was so engrossed in Joni and sometimes felt a little guilty about it. What was it about her that enraptured me so? And at such a young age? I think I was simply in love with love and all the sweet and sometimes melancholy stuff that goes along with it. Ahhh. Joni sure stoked those embers in me! Plus I was enamoured with the hippie lifestyle and to me, Joni embodied all that to my young eyes. I strove to be like her as much as my conservative upbringing would allow. Me with my wavy brown hair! Little did I know back then how Joni herself strove NOT to be the hippie chick I thought her to be! I diligently sought out converts to her and repeatedly failed. A few of my friends indulged me - humored me a bit and pretended to like her. Hmph. It was maddening! Why in the world couldn't they see her GENIUS?! You'd think it would've gotten better in college, but no. No Joni people to discuss the deep things in life with. By then, most in my crowd were gravitating to mainstream blah - or bluegrass (nice, but I could only take so much of it), new wave (never understood it), or worst - disco. NO offense, please, anyone... I hid in my Joni stuff, Steely Dan, Neil Young and the like. I do remember a group that played on the campus grounds - an awesome bluegrass band who did a Joni cover! It was an amazing rendition of "For the Roses"! Can you imagine it in your head? Fast boom-chuck with heavy dobro and mandolin? I was thrilled! Someone knows her! Appreciates her! And why am I melting here on the pavement? Why does this woman's stuff affect me so? Btw, anyone reading who went to ASU in Boone, NC in the mid-to-late 70s? Remember all the bluegrass everything everywhere? Who was that band? Wish I had a recording to give to you, Mr. Muller! Okay. Zip ahead to Seattle Wa, 1979. That's when I up and moved to Wa and stayed there for 9 years. Still no Joni people! Nowhere! "I must be weird", I finally concluded. By then, marriage, new baby and life swallowed me up into a new and different season of life. I kinda forgot about Joni - Kinda felt that this obsession with her was not healthy! Time to grow up! To help my reasoning, sometimes on the radio I'd hear some eighties sounding song of hers. ugh. Is this my beloved Joni and what in the world is happening?! Plus, to further the growing up mission, all my albums back home were being kindly and generously distributed by my mom to friends and sibs over the years of my absence (unbeknowingst (sp) to me!) Ha! Anyway... Okay. Then, in 1988 I found her all over again. I was Joni born again, again. No sacrilege meant here as I'm not bashing Christianity. Just using that expression as a means to convey my exhilarating re-entry into Joni-ness. Since my re-entry, I so appreciate a lot of the stuff that sounded loathe to my ears at one time. I fell back in love with her music and re-experienced it with more mature eyes and realised her genius all the more. Exciting and gratifying. I still haven't heard ALL and don't own her eighties material but want to and will someday! There is and will always be some of her stuff that just doesn't suit me, but she will ever be my all-time favourite - my choice of music to go back to time and time again. I never tire of her for the reason that I do believe she writes in and with a lot of truth and light and that one thing makes her music and lyrics almost alive. Again, thanks to all of you! You are the Joni people! If I never post again, please know that I'm here - interested in all that's being discussed and said - - happy to know that I'm not alone. Well, forgive me, this long first time post. I have more boiling around for later (maybe)! All the Best! Donna in NC p.s. My firstborn to marry in BC, Canada this month! Wonder if I'll spot Joni? Any good places to hear music while on Vanc. Island? Pardon my ignorance, but is Joni's p/t house on V. Island or on the other coast of the mainland? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:43:27 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions Hi Donna Welcome to your first post to the list! Such agreat post. My knowledge into Joni was also Rainy Night House but the album version when I heard it o the tv during 'Fashion Aid'. It was so haunting and mysterious, I played that section of the vidoetape over and over again. Then a pushy Chinese CD storeguy (I lived in Malaysia at the time) suggested that my mum buy Ladies as we'd just bought a cd player (1988) and was looking for stuff to get. Mum had bought a Joan Baez cd (I bought Five Star - I was 15!) and he suggested LOTC. I didn't think much of it until I came down one night and RNH was playing in the kitchen on the new-fangled cd player. I was hooked from then on. Joni lives in or around Sechelt (I think that's how you spell it!) in BC. I know what you mean about trying to convert the masses, my friends have always humoured me on this one... I've converted one at least but he's a slow burner and mainly likes hip-hop, soul and Kate Bush... All the best and much Joni JAmie Zoob - --- Donna Savage wrote: > > Donna in NC > p.s. My firstborn to marry in BC, Canada this > month! Wonder if I'll spot > Joni? Any good places to hear music while on Vanc. > Island? Pardon my > ignorance, but is Joni's p/t house on V. Island or > on the other coast of the > mainland? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:51:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions - --- Donna Savage wrote: > Hi to Jonifans everywhere! Here goes - my first > post ever. A tad scary as > I've never written any post in my life and I > suddenly feel vulnerable. I've > read tons of yours though and similar to what > someone said earlier, I am > amazed and admiring of all of you who diligently > discuss our beloved Joni and > her life. Thanks to you all. It's been an > education! I've reaped sooo much > and have given zilch. Sorry. Here's a little > contribution... Hi, Donna, and welcome to the cult, or the Church of Am-I-the-only-freak-in-the-world-that-knows-who-Joni-Mitchell-is? The story you relate is one that many of us here can reiterate, and relate to. Like you, I was about 14-15 when I first discovered Joni, so maybe there's something about that age, when you first discover an artist/musician who really speaks to you and for you. And similarly, I sort of lost Joni along the way, once I got married and had kids. But she never really went away and was rediscovered a few years before I got internet access and discovered jonimitchell.com and jmdl.com and she stayed with me and buoyed me up - and continues to do so - through the breakup of my marriage and various other times both good and bad. I think you've come to a good place - here, you know, you're not alone! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:15:44 +0300 From: The Boho Dance Subject: "Like Joni" If you're interested, go and check my music at http://cdbaby.com/cd/sippola . I guess all the songwriters are compaired to Joni, if they are females.. Hope that one day I'll be worth comparison. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:56:40 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:53:29 -0400 "Donna Savage" wrote: > It was the live > "Rainy Night House" that did it for me My favorite track on MoA. In fact, I'd have to go through them again to be sure, but this may be the only song in which I strongly prefer the live version to the studio (although there would be many ties). Like you, I've done more reading than posting, but recently have been posting more often (not sure why). Also, I too started listening at about 15 or 16, although I've never stopped--she's been a regular part of my listening for ... ohhh ... it HAS been a long time! ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:12:54 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni with B. B. King, Bread and Roses Festival, 10/4/80 Hi gang, Apologies if someone already mentioned this, but I was looking through Friday's S.F. Chronicle this morning when to my delight, in the "Our Past" column, I saw a picture of Joni singing with B. B. King accompanying, at the October 1980 Bread and Roses Festival at the Greek Theater in Berkeley. (The column goes through articles that were in the Chronicle 25, 50 and 75 years ago and picks out some of the more interesting ones.) The entire entry reads: October 4: The Bread and Roses Festival of Music takes place at the Greek Theater in Berkeley. The first night is given over to folk-rock and features Neil Young. The second day features the comedy of Robin Williams, bluesman B. B. king and Joni Mitchell, Taj Mahal and others. The photo is wonderful, Joni gesturing as she sings, B. B. with his guitar looking on with a Mona Lisa smile. Any of our number attend this wing-ding? Sounds like it woulda been fun. best, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 16:11:38 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: not to blame On 10/3/05, Jamie Zubairi wrote: > > Browne accused her of labelling him with this song (me > thinks the singer-songwriter doth protest too much). > Although the line... "His mother had the frailty you despise And the looks you love to drive to suicide" ... could certainly be "attached" to JB if an interpretor had the inclination. Les NP: John Patitucci - "Imprint" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: jc - a longish first post - Plus BC questions Hi Donna, Wow - that was some post, and having grown up in Raleigh in the mid/late seventies I could definitely relate to all of it. And now you've got me jones-ing for that bluegrass FTR cover. The fact that FTR has only been covered twice (at least as far as I can tell) is a downright crime. Now that you're here, in the clan of your Joni people, stay and gab. Fresh voices rule. Congrats on the upcoming wedding, and let us know about your Joni sighting. Bob NP: Lydia van Dam, "People's Parties" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:43:05 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Krispy Kreme donuts at the Excalibur in Las Vegas. Joe..my nephew.. just called to tell me that they were playing a Joni tune. I said .."which one?" ..he said...." I don't know?" he called his sister over to the phone and she hummed it for me...I said...."Free Man In Paris"...and they said "yeah...that's it." Cute ..huh...great kids!!!? ( Joe is twenty-five Teena is thirty-three ) Bree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:13:54 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Art Jamie pointed me to: http://www.jonimitchell.com/DiaryDecade/art.htm Thanks Jamie! Wow... I really love these paintings. Just like her songs, so much in them. I can't imagine ever getting bored of them. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:27:28 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: "Like Joni" Hey Laura, I checked out your stuff...I really like Kaunajaiset. Can you tell me the lyrics? Also, the fact that you sing in English is appreciated by me. What song is "Just Breathe"? Anyway gang, go to the website have a listen, it is brilliant. CD Baby says: Laura Sippola is a pianist and a singer/songwriter based in Helsinki, Finland. Her songs, piano playing and singing are all combined into one whole entity with a unique sound. As a vivid and an emotional character she draws her inspiration from human experiences and all that life brings ahead, and translates them into a song from upbeat rhetorical to slower breath-taking ballads. She is eager for life, meeting new people and different cultures. Suze - ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Boho Dance" To: joni@smoe.org Subject: "Like Joni" Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:15:44 +0300 > > If you're interested, go and check my music at > http://cdbaby.com/cd/sippola . > I guess all the songwriters are compaired to Joni, if they are females.. > Hope that one day I'll be worth comparison. - -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:36:51 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: "Like Joni" Oh my goodness! I feel very foolish! I downloaded your mp3 into my iTunes, and it overlapped into the next song, which wasn't you! My apologies about the singing in English comment! Still, what I heard was beautiful. Take care, Sue - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suze Cameron" To: "The Boho Dance" , joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: "Like Joni" Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 22:27:28 -0500 > > Hey Laura, > > I checked out your stuff...I really like Kaunajaiset. Can you tell > me the lyrics? Also, the fact that you sing in English is > appreciated by me. What song is "Just Breathe"? Anyway gang, go > to the website have a listen, it is brilliant. > > CD Baby says: Laura Sippola is a pianist and a singer/songwriter > based in Helsinki, Finland. > > Her songs, piano playing and singing are all combined into one > whole entity with a unique sound. As a vivid and an emotional > character she draws her inspiration from human experiences and all > that life brings ahead, and translates them into a song from upbeat > rhetorical to slower breath-taking ballads. She is eager for life, > meeting new people and different cultures. > > Suze > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Boho Dance" > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: "Like Joni" > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 20:15:44 +0300 > > > > > If you're interested, go and check my music at > > http://cdbaby.com/cd/sippola . > > I guess all the songwriters are compaired to Joni, if they are females.. > > Hope that one day I'll be worth comparison. > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 - -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #282 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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