From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #266 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, September 18 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 266 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Library addition: 'Cultural centre concept unveiled' [LesIrvin@jmdl.c] New Library addition: 'Cultural centre concept unveiled' [LesIrvin@jmdl.c] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 ["Paul Headon" ] jmdl etiquette? ["Jeff Hankins" ] Re: joni and sports [Jamie Zubairi ] RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: jmdl etiquette? [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: jmdl etiquette? [Catherine McKay ] Re: jmdl etiquette? [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: jmdl etiquette? part deux [Catherine McKay ] RE: joni and the bbc ["Guy Brown" ] Re: joni and sports [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni and sports [Jamie Zubairi ] How tall is Joni? [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni and sports now vljc [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 03:32:01 -0400 From: LesIrvin@jmdl.com Subject: New Library addition: 'Cultural centre concept unveiled' The following article has just been added to the JMDL Library: Title: Cultural centre concept unveiled Publication: Saskatoon StarPhoenix Date: 2005-9-16 Type: News Item Find it here under 'Most recent additions...': http://jmdl.com/library ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 03:34:19 -0400 From: LesIrvin@jmdl.com Subject: New Library addition: 'Cultural centre concept unveiled' The following article has just been added to the JMDL Library: Title: Cultural centre concept unveiled Publication: Saskatoon StarPhoenix Date: 2005-9-16 Type: News Item Find it here under 'Most recent additions...': http://jmdl.com/library ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:16:01 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 Re Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version Can anyone tell me how I can get a copy of this track please? Paul Headon Wales ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:36:38 +0100 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: jmdl etiquette? Hi to everyone. I've shot my mouth off on a few subjects within the last couple of weeks, so I'll probably go quiet again soon. As a old kind of newbie, and as a long-time lurker coming out of the cold... it's a bit unsettling. Like - ever been to a party where everyone goes very quiet after you just said something, even though you were just making some small talk hoping to kind of find your way in...? Hmmm? So - is there any kind of etiquette going on here that one ought to familiarize oneself with? - like 'whoah - stay off that subject. We don't mention that here. We don't talk about those aspects of Joni's work..' or maybe even 'o no, not that ol chestnut again - we've done that topic to death..yawn' Just asking. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:04:07 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: joni and sports Hmmm Yes she's always been skinny. I believe someone saw a dress that she wore for some concert of other for auction and it was a size 6 or something ridiculous... She is only short as well... Can someone tell me HOW short she actually is? She always looks tall in pictures... But always dwarfed by most men. Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Chain-smokers must visit the dead sea.(100 miles > from Haifa, my hometown). Ha, you can float for > hours and the water keeps still. Amazing, and very > good for your skin and bones. Regarding that Joni > pic - Doesn't she look awfuly skinny in it?... > > Catherine McKay wrote: --- > Nuriel Tobias wrote: > > > Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) > > > > Nuri > > > > She's floating on her back. Even those with terrible > lungs can manage - and you'd be able to smoke at the > same time, and you could balance the ashtray on your > belly. > > > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:59:12 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 Hi Paul You need to go back to the original email and click on the link. from there you'll be sent to a site called 'you send it.com' or something like that and it'll ask you if you want to download it. It'll download to your computer automatically after that. Much Joni Jamie Zoob soon to be gone from the list for a few weeks doing a tour of the UK in a show called 'The Nightingale' playing the Emperor of China (!). For more details of venues and times click on http://www.yellowearth.org - --- Paul Headon wrote: > Re Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version > > Can anyone tell me how I can get a copy of this > track please? > > Paul Headon > Wales ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:00:30 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: jmdl etiquette? Hi Jeff Yes. We don't mention the perm. Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- Jeff Hankins wrote: > Hi to everyone. > > I've shot my mouth off on a few subjects within the > last couple of weeks, so > I'll probably go quiet again soon. > > As a old kind of newbie, and as a long-time lurker > coming out of the cold... > it's a bit unsettling. > Like - ever been to a party where everyone goes very > quiet after you just > said something, even though you were just making > some small talk hoping to > kind of find your way in...? Hmmm? > > So - is there any kind of etiquette going on here > that one ought to > familiarize oneself with? - like 'whoah - stay off > that subject. We don't > mention that here. We don't talk about those aspects > of Joni's work..' or > maybe even 'o no, not that ol chestnut again - we've > done that topic to > death..yawn' > > Just asking. > jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jmdl etiquette? - --- Jeff Hankins wrote: > Hi to everyone. > > I've shot my mouth off on a few subjects within the > last couple of weeks, so > I'll probably go quiet again soon. > > As a old kind of newbie, and as a long-time lurker > coming out of the cold... > it's a bit unsettling. > Like - ever been to a party where everyone goes very > quiet after you just > said something, even though you were just making > some small talk hoping to > kind of find your way in...? Hmmm? > > So - is there any kind of etiquette going on here > that one ought to > familiarize oneself with? - like 'whoah - stay off > that subject. We don't > mention that here. We don't talk about those aspects > of Joni's work..' or > maybe even 'o no, not that ol chestnut again - we've > done that topic to > death..yawn' > > Just asking. > jeff I figure you can talk about whatever you want. It's a pretty eclectic bunch here. I don't think there are any rules. There is the one about marking posts that don't deal with Joni as njc that people forget about sometimes. I deliberately DIDN'T mark this one njc, because I wanted the Joni-onlies to know that most of the time those of us who get all the posts do remember to mark the non-Joni ones as njc, but sometimes newbies haven't read the "etiquette" blurb that you get when you first join, and sometimes people just forget, so it's useful to remind them. Things were really buzzing for a while and then it went strangely silent, such that I thought there was something wrong with my e-mail, or people were snubbing me, but that's just the weird nature of the list. Every so often someone asks what SIQUOMB means and sometimes someone else gets all pissy about it, which is quite unnecessary, because some people really don't know and I doubt it's a crime not to. I certainly didn't when I first joined. Now I know, but I still don't care. ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:33:36 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: jmdl etiquette? And on a more 'proper' hello, Jeff, I thought I'd just say welcome to the list from another fellow UK lister. You're from Wales, is that right or am I mistaking you for someone else? Me, I live in London but soon to go on a UK tour with a show so I'll be virtually SILENT for the next 6 months... Yes, the NJC tag is MOST important it must be put in the subject line as the email gets sorted electronically (or however it's done) and that's probably the most important jmdl specific etiquette you'd need to know. Otherwise it's plain 'netiquette', you know, don't flame anyone, make sure you know that people know you're joking by putting helpful symbols like ;-) (which is a winking eye if you read it by turning your head sideways to the left - you can tell me I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs but I just thought I'd add it in, in case you were a newbie to email too... ;-) hee hee All the best with it all and Much Joni Jamie Zoob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:28:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: jmdl etiquette? part deux - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > I figure you can talk about whatever you want. It's > a > pretty eclectic bunch here. I don't think there are > any rules. Oh yes, there are (correcting me). Being abusive isn't good. Arguing is fine. Namecalling isn't on. Respect is good. All that stuff. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:32:34 -0700 From: "Guy Brown" Subject: RE: joni and the bbc I also carefully recorded the audio of many of these BBC2 'In Concert' recording back in the early 1970's and have shows by John Sebastian, Neil Young, James Taylor, and Crosby and Nash preserved and transferred to CD-R these days, as well as both Joni shows. So if wants copies of any of them. Get in touch. The thing was that BBC2, being a channel which generally had odd length time slots to fill, but cut and paste and make various length versions of the shows. My old reel to reels coughed up 3 different shortened version of the 1970 Joni show (yes I was a big Joni fan even then at age 19). So to assemble a definitive version I had to pick from them all. I think these videos, not just the audio, have survived into the 21st century and are now being shown again on UK telly. GUY >>>JEFF HANKINS wrote: Bob's recent uncovering of 'Carnival in Kenora' set me to thinking again about hidden treasures (Sorry) And particularly about fat corporations who sit on great mounds of jewelled treasures, like big scaly Smaug in his den (for you hobbit-fans) Take our much revered BBC for example. Now, back in the very early 70s they broadcast a cutting edge series of solo acoustic performances of singer songwriters 'In Concert' on the almost-avant garde BBC2 channel; they were produced by Stanley Dorfman. Fellow Brits, remember? In my memory John Sebastian was the first - though I may be wrong on that one. Certainly the list that followed was, looking back, monumental - and visionary - since some of these were only just becoming renowned. There were quite a few, I'm sure, but those I remember included: Laura Nyro, David Gates, Neil Young, Elton John (the Your Song/ Border Song/ real hair era), Carole King, James Taylor, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Labi Siffre, Judy Collins, and Joni. twice. (To my knowledge only the Neil Young.. and part of the first Joni concert, have been 'released') The first studio concert was recorded in 1970, and is often now known as 'The Pink Dress Concert' I believe. (I can remember watching it on TV, a transfixed 17 year old, while 'My Old Man' caused my parents to ask who on earth this dreadful warbling woman is). The concert ( Simon Montgomery has it right of course in his wonderful 'chronology' section) was broadcast again in 1971. Imagine my surprise to find several of the songs quite different, eg. The Gallery was in it, and (Did she open with this, perhaps?) 'Hunter' (The Good Samaritan); And.. a rendition of 'All I want' as a work in progress! with plenty of dooddoo doodoo dedoo. So, I realized.. the original concert must have been about an hour long. And BBC, presumably, still sit on it. But the concert she did for BBC in 1972 (when she came over for her Royal Festival Hall Concerts) was an even better one (and this time I had the sense to set up our old reel-to-reel in front of the telly, and warn my parents to keep quiet). For those who remember it - beautiful opening version of This Flight Tonight, then 'Electricity'.- it was great; I think it surfaced in bootlegland as ' In her own devices' or something obscure like that. But I've never seen the television broadcast since. Ah, Beeb, what you do to us. Dig out the archives! Since my memories are stirred, just a word about the famous BBC Radio Concert she recorded too, where James Taylor put in an appearance. I listened to that one on the Radio first time round, too. It was mesmerising and seamless. When I bought an LP of it a couple of years later ( 'Joni Mitchell and James Taylor In Perfect Harmony' it was called) I noticed the bootleggers had stuck on it a few of James's songs from his BBC TV 'In Concert' performance, to kind of even things up?.and had attempted to 'paper over the cracks' with extra hollow, studio-ey applause. It was a botched job. The songs didn't belong there: if the radio concert we heard was to be believed, James joined only to play guitar on 'California', 'Case of You' For Free, Circle Game (harmonising on those last 2) and singing together on Joni's encore, the little lullaby he'd written for her. Any other 50 year old Brits share similar recall? All for now Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > Hmmm > > Yes she's always been skinny. I believe someone saw > a > dress that she wore for some concert of other for > auction and it was a size 6 or something > ridiculous... > She is only short as well... Can someone tell me HOW > short she actually is? She always looks tall in > pictures... But always dwarfed by most men. > > Much Joni > > Jamie Zoob > Get out of town!!! Oh, I guess you are, Mr. Emperor of China la-di-da. Joni short? Define short. Now I'm curious too. I always thought she was pretty tall. She certainly looks tall - but then again, I'm short, even if I always forget that I am! Now off to do a google image search for pics of Joni standing next to other people... Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:04:19 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: joni and sports LOL LOL LOL!!!! Yes, well... for women the average height is 5'6" and anything below that is 'short' apparently... But I think Joni comes in at about 5'2" or 5'3" or am I mistaken? http://www.jonimitchell.com/Yearbook64H.html See, even with heels she's kinda dwarfed by her date... and I'm not sure about the dancing.. But I guess that was the post-polio syndrome kicking in... ;-) end of Joni content... Nice to hear from you Catherine! How is Sarah doing at her art store... I love going into art supply stores, the girls in there are so cool and arty and really get me going... I just purchased a studio easel the other week with my birthday money and I HAD to buy the slightly more expensive one because she preferred using it. I hope things are going well and stay in touch while I'm off-list for the next few weeks Much Joni Jamie Zoob x - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > > > Get out of town!!! Oh, I guess you are, Mr. Emperor > of > China la-di-da. Joni short? Define short. Now I'm > curious too. I always thought she was pretty tall. > She > certainly looks tall - but then again, I'm short, > even > if I always forget that I am! > > Now off to do a google image search for pics of Joni > standing next to other people... > > > > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:06:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: How tall is Joni? Here's a pic of Joni with Eric Andersen at Hugh's Room, Toronto, 2001. Eric is pretty tall, as I recall. If he's 6 feet tall, would Joni be 5'6"? Hmm, wonder if she's wearing heels. Or maybe he is... Actually, I think he's over 6' tall. http://www.hughsroom.com/zericandersen.html Joni and Don Freed (2nd pic) and with a bunch o' people at Polar Prize, 1996: http://www.polarmusicprize.com/newSite/cerm1996.shtml Joni with John Kimura Parker(who looks pretty tall in the other pics) (3rd picture down): http://www.kimura.com/photo2.html I'm guessing she's 5'7" or 5'8" which, to me, is pretty tall, but then, I'm only 5'3-1/2" (that 1/2" is very important to me!) Funny thing about metric vs imperial. I think of temps in celsius, weights in either imperial or metric, distances in kilometres, but heights and room sizes are always in feet and inches. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports now vljc - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > LOL LOL LOL!!!! > > Yes, well... for women the average height is 5'6" > and > anything below that is 'short' apparently... But I > think Joni comes in at about 5'2" or 5'3" or am I > mistaken? > > http://www.jonimitchell.com/Yearbook64H.html > > See, even with heels she's kinda dwarfed by her > date... and I'm not sure about the dancing.. But I > guess that was the post-polio syndrome kicking in... > ;-) She does look really tiny in that picture - but that guy she's dancing with looks like an absolute gorilla! > end of Joni content... > > Nice to hear from you Catherine! > > How is Sarah doing at her art store... I love going > into art supply stores, the girls in there are so > cool > and arty and really get me going... I just purchased > a > studio easel the other week with my birthday money > and > I HAD to buy the slightly more expensive one because > she preferred using it. I hope things are going well > and stay in touch while I'm off-list for the next > few > weeks A week after they hired her, they f*ckin' fired her! They didn't give her any reason, just said, "It's not going to work" and that was it. They had never said anything negative about her work, never gave any indication she wasn't catching on, and I suspect the boss either over-hired and then got rid of a few, or wanted to hire his girlfriend or cousin or something. Very unprofessional. The f*ckers! I WILL NEVER BUY ART SUPPLIES AT CURRY'S ART STORE AGAIN!!! If you're an artist in Toronto, please boycott Curry's and go with Woolfitt's, Above Ground, Loomis & Toles, but Curry's be damned! Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #266 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)