From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 17 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 265 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: joni and sports ["Sherelle Smith" ] joni vids ["walterphil" ] Re: joni and sports [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: joni vids [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni vids [Bob Muller ] Re: joni and sports [Catherine McKay ] Re: joni and sports [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: joni vids ["ron" ] Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC ["Martin Giles" ] carnivan in kenora ["JEFF HANKINS" ] Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version [Doug ] joni and the bbc ["JEFF HANKINS" ] Prairie Wind [Greg Dexter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:52:06 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version Thanks Bob so much. What a great little lost treasure. Was this song a dumped song from STAS? Mark in Sydney On 16/09/2005, at 5:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version Subject: RE: apologies Hi Ann! I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving to swim. I think it had something to do with her childhood bout with polio. I know we had this discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to the rescue!!! Love, Sherelle Anne wrote: It seems that my forgetting to add the NJC to my post about baseball sparked a rather unpleasant thread. I sencerely apologize to all. And now on to some Joni content... I seem to recall that Joni liked to swim and also liked bowling as a teenager. Am I remembering that correctly? It's been really interesting reading some new (to me anyway) info about her youth, and seeing photos I've never seen before. lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:06:19 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version ooooh I like this one! Old time Joni, my fave, thanks for sharing Bob, love tushie >>> Bob Muller 9/15/2005 7:11:38 PM >>> Most of us have heard Joni singing "Carnival In Kenora" from the Second Fret recordings and such - live audience recordings. I knew that she had recorded a studio version of it but had pretty much given up hope of ever hearing it, when all of a sudden through a whim of real good luck, it has plopped squarely in my lap (love it when that happens). Hopefully someday we'll get a better quality version, but til we do this is still way cool! I hope all y'all think so too. http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EU34YTRQP73T0VJ78S0KN91GA Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Mr. Bellows" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Ann! > > I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving > to swim. I think it had > something to do with her childhood bout with polio. > I know we had this > discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to > the rescue!!! > > Love, Sherelle > Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind of looked like swimming to me ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:56:08 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: joni and sports Say it ain't so Catherine! I thought she was swimming too!!! Love, Sherelle >From: Catherine McKay >To: Sherelle Smith , anne@sandstrom.com >CC: joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: joni and sports >Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) > > >--- Sherelle Smith wrote: > > > Hi Ann! > > > > I think I heard the same thing too about Joni loving > > to swim. I think it had > > something to do with her childhood bout with polio. > > I know we had this > > discussion before a long time ago! Experts...come to > > the rescue!!! > > > > Love, Sherelle > > > >Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind >of looked like swimming to me ;-) > > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ >Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "walterphil" Subject: joni vids this is my second post on this don't think it went thru the first time got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week and they are great the best are all three of her performances on the johnny cash show and about 4 performances on some canadian show called "let's sing out" from the sixties "ladies and gentlemen here is joni anderson!" those showe have to be seen to be believed. they are so "mighty wind" xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni and sports Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) Nuri Catherine McKay wrote: Maybe she was faking it on the Hissing LP, but it kind of looked like swimming to me ;-) Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:45:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni vids I thought someone else would have responded to this. It was posted because I remember reading it. I think these are both Jonifest giveaways. I'm pretty sure I have both, but was too lazy to go and check and that's why I didn't respond the first time. I do know a number of jmdlers have these. I don't have dubbing capabilities. If I did, I'd offer to copy them for people. I could be mistaken, but these might have been treed, or seeded, or weeded, or vined, or whatever the hell that thing is called. It's vaguely plant-ish in any case. - --- walterphil wrote: > this is my second post on this > don't think it went thru the first time > > got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week > and they are great > the best are all three of her performances on the > johnny cash show > and about 4 performances on some canadian show > called "let's sing out" > from the sixties > > "ladies and gentlemen > here is joni anderson!" > > those showe have to be seen to be believed. > they are so "mighty wind" > > xxx > walt > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:45:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: joni vids Walt, Your first post came through fine, it was just old news to most of us that have had this video for years now. Matter of fact, the bootleg you bought was a JMDL compilation that was put together for a Jonifest. The Let's Sing Out video is pretty fantastic, I remember how excited I was when I saw it for the first time. Bob NP: Caroline Lavelle, "A Case Of You" (Psovi Psovi Mix) walterphil wrote: this is my second post on this don't think it went thru the first time got a couple of joni dvds at the flea last week and they are great the best are all three of her performances on the johnny cash show and about 4 performances on some canadian show called "let's sing out" from the sixties "ladies and gentlemen here is joni anderson!" those showe have to be seen to be believed. they are so "mighty wind" xxx walt The most personalized portal on the Web! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:48:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni and sports - --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) > > Nuri > She's floating on her back. Even those with terrible lungs can manage - and you'd be able to smoke at the same time, and you could balance the ashtray on your belly. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: joni and sports Chain-smokers must visit the dead sea.(100 miles from Haifa, my hometown). Ha, you can float for hours and the water keeps still. Amazing, and very good for your skin and bones. Regarding that Joni pic - Doesn't she look awfuly skinny in it?... Catherine McKay wrote: --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Trust me - chain-smokers do not swim.:) > > Nuri > She's floating on her back. Even those with terrible lungs can manage - and you'd be able to smoke at the same time, and you could balance the ashtray on your belly. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:11:16 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: Re: joni vids hi >>>catherine wrote >>>>> I do know a number of jmdlers have these. I don't have dubbing >>>>> capabilities. If I did, I'd offer to copy them for people. I could be >>>>> mistaken, but these might have been treed, or seeded, or weeded, or >>>>> vined, or whatever the hell that thing is called. It's vaguely >>>>> plant-ish in any case. i mentioned these a short while back after i saw them offered on another list - i thought it was quite cool that they were getting circulation. but thats not the point - it seems that there are still a couple of people on this list who would like to get copies - how about someone offfering them up again??? (i dont have them or i would) ron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:12:41 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC Not sure whether I should tag this NJC now or not, as some people watching this thread may be on the 'only joni' list .. Anyway. Sometime in the early-to-mid 90s I worked with Maxi Jazz on an album of his. While chatting, we got onto the subject of his lyrics which were singularly positive and uplifting. For a hip-hop album this was/is still highly unusual. To paraphrase him, he told me that he had been doing 'negative' stuff for years, and never seemed to get anywhere, but had recently been drawn to Buddhism and found new energy in it's positiveness. This had inspired him and he really felt that the album we were working on was going to be a turning point in his career. I don't know if that album was a success in itself, but not very much later I saw he was in a new outfit called Faithless. The rest, as they are inclined to say, is history. Guess them 'positive vibes' are worth something, eh? Martin. (The bugger didn't come to me to master the Faithless album, you'll note :o) > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:28:26 +1000 > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: Re: JOni in Faithless song... SJC > > On 15/09/2005, at 5:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > > JOni in Faithless song... SJC > > Nice catch, Lucy. I have been a fan of Faithless since the Reverence > album and was aware of the lyrics of Don't Leave. Any band with > beautiful insightful lyrics must have some influence from Joni > somewhere, IMO. Faithless lyrics are always worth a deeper listen well > after you've danced yourself stupid. Some of my favourite tracks are, > Crazy English Summer, Why Go? and Salva Mea. Lush. > > Mark in Sydney. > > NP Why Go? - Faithless (featuring Estelle). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:19:11 +0100 From: "JEFF HANKINS" Subject: carnivan in kenora Bob Wonderful to hear that studio version - what a find! what a lovely recording! I've always thought that song had a little more about it than "just a pretty little courtship song that people like" (see my post 8 Sept) - there's a whole odd quality of melancholy in the melody, and that with the images of 'scuffled ground', bare tentless sand etc make it strangely poignant, despite the artless little thing that it is. Wherever did you find it, and where has it been hiding?? And when I play it on Windows Media, why does it say Track 18? Most of all: how generous and good of you to share it!! Jeff, Wales ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 18:34:13 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Carnival in Kenora - Joni's STUDIO version After many long seconds of research on Google I found that Cadence records went out of business in 1964. Interestingly, that information came from a site called Both Sides Now Publications http://www.bsnpubs.com/. http://www.bsnpubs.com/cadence/cadencestory.html Doug npih Twilight Zone theme Bob Muller wrote: > > Not sure of any details about the recording, Doug. I have more > questions than answers myself. Was CIK recorded the same time as > "Day After Day", were these to be released as a 45? Maybe the > Cadence advance you mention financed these sessions. > > We do know that she had STAS wrapped by March of '68, so it seems > highly unlikely that this recording was done in '68. My guess is > that it was maybe a year prior. > > Sorry, no answers from me - just more questions. And of course, > more goodies if/as I get them. > > Bob > > NP: Steely Dan, "Do It Again" (from Reelin' Through the Years, > live at the Record Plant, my favoritest bootleg ever) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! for Good > Click here to donate to the > Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:15:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: carnival in kenora Thanks Jeff - I actually thought of you when I sent it, know how you dig that early stuff as I do. Glad you snagged it and gave it a listen. It said "Track 18" because it was track 18 on the CD I got, but no, the other 17 tracks are NOT unreleased Joni studio recordings - I wish! But it IS a most interesting CD...it's a live show from a Buffalo, NY group called 'The Difference' (later changed their name to The Coincidentals) who did a COVER of Carnival in their act in 1968. Check it out, their arrangement is briliant lounge-cheese, drastically different than Joni's own recording: http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SXTEHPPAVX5C3408DC3JO51OX This makes TWO covers of CIK, the other being an equally fab recording by our very own Gary Zack. Bob NP: Fleetwood Mac, "Everybody Finds Out" - --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:44:37 +0100 From: "JEFF HANKINS" Subject: joni and the bbc Bob's recent uncovering of 'Carnival in Kenora' set me to thinking again about hidden treasures (Sorry) And particularly about fat corporations who sit on great mounds of jewelled treasures, like big scaly Smaug in his den (for you hobbit-fans) Take our much revered BBC for example. Now, back in the very early 70s they broadcast a cutting edge series of solo acoustic performances of singer songwriters 'In Concert' on the almost-avant garde BBC2 channel; they were produced by Stanley Dorfman. Fellow Brits, remember? In my memory John Sebastian was the first - though I may be wrong on that one. Certainly the list that followed was, looking back, monumental - and visionary - since some of these were only just becoming renowned. There were quite a few, I'm sure, but those I remember included: Laura Nyro, David Gates, Neil Young, Elton John (the Your Song/ Border Song/ real hair era), Carole King, James Taylor, Gilbert O'Sullivan, Labi Siffre, Judy Collins, and Joni. twice. (To my knowledge only the Neil Young.. and part of the first Joni concert, have been 'released') The first studio concert was recorded in 1970, and is often now known as 'The Pink Dress Concert' I believe. (I can remember watching it on TV, a transfixed 17 year old, while 'My Old Man' caused my parents to ask who on earth this dreadful warbling woman is). The concert ( Simon Montgomery has it right of course in his wonderful 'chronology' section) was broadcast again in 1971. Imagine my surprise to find several of the songs quite different, eg. The Gallery was in it, and (Did she open with this, perhaps?) 'Hunter' (The Good Samaritan); And.. a rendition of 'All I want' as a work in progress! with plenty of dooddoo doodoo dedoo. So, I realized.. the original concert must have been about an hour long. And BBC, presumably, still sit on it. But the concert she did for BBC in 1972 (when she came over for her Royal Festival Hall Concerts) was an even better one (and this time I had the sense to set up our old reel-to-reel in front of the telly, and warn my parents to keep quiet). For those who remember it - beautiful opening version of This Flight Tonight, then 'Electricity'.- it was great; I think it surfaced in bootlegland as ' In her own devices' or something obscure like that. But I've never seen the television broadcast since. Ah, Beeb, what you do to us. Dig out the archives! Since my memories are stirred, just a word about the famous BBC Radio Concert she recorded too, where James Taylor put in an appearance. I listened to that one on the Radio first time round, too. It was mesmerising and seamless. When I bought an LP of it a couple of years later ( 'Joni Mitchell and James Taylor In Perfect Harmony' it was called) I noticed the bootleggers had stuck on it a few of James's songs from his BBC TV 'In Concert' performance, to kind of even things up?.and had attempted to 'paper over the cracks' with extra hollow, studio-ey applause. It was a botched job. The songs didn't belong there: if the radio concert we heard was to be believed, James joined only to play guitar on 'California', 'Case of You' For Free, Circle Game (harmonising on those last 2) and singing together on Joni's encore, the little lullaby he'd written for her. Any other 50 year old Brits share similar recall? All for now Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:16:35 -0700 From: Greg Dexter Subject: Prairie Wind You can listen to the complete album Prairie Wind by Neil Young at NPR at this link: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4850911 Greg ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #265 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)