From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #248 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, August 31 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 248 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re:Happy Birthday JMDL [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) ["Azeem" ] Performing Songwriter magazine asks young artists to name their inspiration [Patti Witten ] Re: New Orleans Update [Randy Remote ] RE: New Orleans Update ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! [Lori Fye ] Re: New Orleans Update [Randy Remote ] RE: New Orleans Update ["Richard Flynn" ] New Orleans Update ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:57:17 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re:Happy Birthday JMDL Happy Birthday JMDL and thanks for your enormous effort and dedication Les! It looks like the Joni drawing "Daydreamer" was her first self portrait of her riding out to the prairie to have a smoke, she looks grounded (flat on her back). Happy to be here Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:26:27 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) (I'm going backwards on catching up with digests!!! So sorry!) I agree with you too Kate! I think the calling to start a label is not something every musician has. I like mentoring artists but I don't know if I would ever have the mental energy to actually promote and sign other artists. I have my own label and publishing company but I'm pretty selfish about it. It's strictly a means to put my own CD and music out, that's all. It's pretty much in name only at this point too. There's a lot of responsibility to ensure the success of the person you would be signing. I would really take that to heart and feel very responsible for them. I think you are right about Dave Matthews really liking this aspect of the business. Plus, he is a better financial position to find the capital necessary to properly promote Patti Griffin. There are a lot of pros and cons to artists starting labels for other artists. I don't think Joni would touch that one with a ten foot pole!!! Sherelle Kate wrote: Sherelle> The main thing I try to impart is that no one is going to "give" you anything. It is not required. You must create your own buzz and forge your own destiny. To give the artist a sense of self-sufficiency is the best thing I could ever do for someone. More than fiscal success, I prefer to see "emotional success" where someone stands and says with pride, "I am a musician" or "I am a singer/songwriter".< I agree. I think when someone asks us for help the best thing we can do is share our experience. We can't do any more. I don't think Joni ever enjoyed the biz part of music (as an artist, who does?). So the last thing she's going to do is start a music label. Dave Matthews started a label which picked up Patty Griffin (yay dave!) he must like that part of the music biz or he wouldn't have done it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:46:21 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! Les, You're the BEST. What a wonderful gift and tribute to our Joan. I'm sure she would love to read it Les. You should send her a copy. Much love, Rosie - -----Original Message----- From: Les Irvin To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:06:11 -0400 Subject: Happy Birthday JMDL! Joniphiles - First, many thanks to Mother Nature for sparing New Orleans from the worst of the storm. Let's have a clean-up party, Paz! Secondly, Happy 9th Birthday to the JMDL tommorrow! August 30, 1996 saw the JMDL's very first post. In celebration - and quite co-incidentally - I'm pleased to announce the first in what i hope to be a series of exclusive JMDL interviews. The first interviewee is John Uren, the man who started the Depression Coffeehouse in Calgary in September of 1963 and gave a young lady named Joni Anderson her first regularly-paying gig. John talks a lot about the Depression days and gives some interesting insight into the early Joni. Plus, you get to see an early drawing of Joni's from 1964. Many thanks to John, a true gentleman who over the past few months has endured my many edits and changes to the text. Read the interview here: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 Enjoy! Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:53:37 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" Subject: Happy Birthday JMDL Les, Wow, thanks for writing that interview. I really enjoyed it and found it well-written. (For example, you "caught" the fact that the song 'Little Boxes', often associated with Pete Seeger was written by Malvina Reynolds.) >The gift goes on> Nice job, boss man. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:01:16 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) Kate wrote: << I think when someone asks us for help the best thing we can do is share our experience. We can't do any more. I don't think Joni ever enjoyed the biz part of music (as an artist, who does?). So the last thing she's going to do is start a music label. Dave Matthews started a label which picked up Patty Griffin (yay dave!) he must like that part of the music biz or he wouldn't have done it. >> And Sherelle replied: << I think the calling to start a label is not something every musician has. I like mentoring artists but I don't know if I would ever have the mental energy to actually promote and sign other artists. I have my own label and publishing company but I'm pretty selfish about it. It's strictly a means to put my own CD and music out, that's all. It's pretty much in name only at this point too. There's a lot of responsibility to ensure the success of the person you would be signing. I would really take that to heart and feel very responsible for them. I think you are right about Dave Matthews really liking this aspect of the business. Plus, he is a better financial position to find the capital necessary to properly promote Patti Griffin. There are a lot of pros and cons to artists starting labels for other artists. I don't think Joni would touch that one with a ten foot pole!!! >> My twopenn'orth: In so far as I have any (impertinent) wishes on behalf of Joni, it wouldn't involve her lifting a finger to help anyone out; I would love it if she simply gave a sign that she has opened her ears and just listened to some of the great music that's out there TODAY, be it singer-songwriters or whatever else. I can't help feeling that if she dared to take a little dip, rather than sticking obstinately to her "Miles Davis is the only one I can relate to" mantra, she might find her enthusiasm for music rekindled. I think this would benefit HER. If (and only if) she then felt moved to speak positively about artists that she liked, it would have a really positive effect on them. And praise from her would certainly be hugely appreciated and, I'm sure, reciprocated. It might set up a virtuous circle of positive vibes. Man. Anyway, I know I have no business telling Joni Mitchell what she should do... Azeem in London NP: Rose Polenzani - And These Hands (I'll post about her separately) - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/84 - Release Date: 29/08/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:46:23 -0400 From: Patti Witten Subject: Performing Songwriter magazine asks young artists to name their inspiration Performing Songwriter's newest issue has the theme "inspiration." They asked a couple dozen younger artists to name the bands/artists who inspired them. Ok, I'm old. Really old. I only recognized 2 or 3 of their names! At least two of them cited Abba! One kid said his Mom turned him on to Stevie Wonder! I scanned the entire article but did not see our Joan's name mentioned once. Patti - -- Patti Witten on I-Town Records www.itownrecords.com MySpace http://myspace.com/pattiwitten http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:02:44 -0500 (CDT) From: michael@thepazgroup.com Subject: New Orleans Update At this point I am almost at a total loss for words, but will try to express what I am feeling. The damage is far worse than we imagined. Communication is very little if any. Most peoples cellphonesdo not work. Land lines and electricity totally out. Two breaches in the levee system has over 80% of New Orleans AND Metairie and Kenner under water. We have no communication with anyone in our own backyard. It appears that if we would have had a direct hit as feared New Orleans as we knew would be a memory. Calls continue to come in and the emails from all of you and I am so grateful. Where the fuck is our leader? How can he have a 5 week vacation while people are dying In Iraq and whereis the great leadership in regards to the Gulf Coast?? Sorry Paz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! What a GREAT birthday present, Les - thanks a million to you and Lindsay for getting this up. Give yourselves a JWD for a job well done and keep 'em coming. Now when are we going to get some tapes from Mr. Uren? Bob NP: The Stones, "Satisfaction" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:18:28 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Been thinking about you alot- at least you are okay, and still part of our family. Of course we have all seen the news and know what a horrendous mess this is, and feel for you. This too shall pass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:50:41 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: New Orleans Update Randy wrote: This too shall pass. I write: Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall pass. Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:01:15 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Happy Birthday JMDL! Great stuff, Les! Thanks for posting it, and thanks also for creating the JMDL, through which I have made so many great friends over the last nearly 8 years. Lori, member since fall of 1997 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:03:07 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Sure not trying to minimize the pain, or tell anyone to get over it. I traveled to Kauai a year or so after Hurricane Iniki leveled the island. By then most of the damaged had been repaired, but every once in a while you'd drive by a mountain of refrigerators, or another big pile of stoves to remind you what happened. Gene's point was a valid one. Many of LA's national guard and helicopters were sent to Iraq, not to mention all that $. I heard someone on Democracy Now today saying that the flooding is worse because much of the bayou, which acted as a sort of buffer has been cut into channels for ship lanes for the refineries. Another big problem, on top of everything else, is the toxic soup that is being carried everywhere with the floodwaters. Richard Flynn wrote: > Randy wrote: > This too shall pass. > > I write: > Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and > frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in > Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are > boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall > pass. > > Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:13:59 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: New Orleans Update Randy, Don't misunderstand me. I appreciate your wise counsel. I am just worried about all the friends I have down there--Paz, who I only know virtually, but others--longtime friends I haven't been able to get in touch with. And I am just heartsick. So please know I meant no criticism of you. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: Randy Remote [mailto:guitarzan@direcpc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:03 AM To: Richard Flynn; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Orleans Update Sure not trying to minimize the pain, or tell anyone to get over it. I traveled to Kauai a year or so after Hurricane Iniki leveled the island. By then most of the damaged had been repaired, but every once in a while you'd drive by a mountain of refrigerators, or another big pile of stoves to remind you what happened. Gene's point was a valid one. Many of LA's national guard and helicopters were sent to Iraq, not to mention all that $. I heard someone on Democracy Now today saying that the flooding is worse because much of the bayou, which acted as a sort of buffer has been cut into channels for ship lanes for the refineries. Another big problem, on top of everything else, is the toxic soup that is being carried everywhere with the floodwaters. Richard Flynn wrote: > Randy wrote: > This too shall pass. > > I write: > Not anytime bloody fucking soon. I totally sympathize with Paz's anger and > frustration. This is fucking huge--New Orleans is underwater--whole towns in > Mississippi are history. Slidell is leveled. I-10 and the Causeway are > boekne nearly beyond repair. It's gonna be a long time before this shall > pass. > > Richard (a former resident of Louisiana) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:57:24 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: New Orleans Update I am crying over this tragedy . this beautiful one of a kind city ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #248 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)