From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #236 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 19 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 236 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Jonifest report (very long) [Garret ] Re: A lithograph and accompanying invitations (VLJC) [Loren Carter ] Re: FW: [NortheastJonifest] Jonifest report (very long) [Garret ] Re: Fwd: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Was: Playing of Woodstock on the radio / Now: BYT [Smurf ] Remix Project [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) [hell@ihug.co.nz] Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) [Catherine McKay Subject: Jonifest report (very long) I flew from Dublin to Barcelona where I was to meet Mike, Emiliano, and Bob Muller. I was afraid that we wouldnt recognise each other  I had only seen Bob in photographs from previous Jonifests. What if he had changed his hair colour? No problem, of course. Emiliano drove us to Mikes apartment where we met his beautiful and engaging partner Elisabet. After some much needed beer, we went to look at some of this unique city. Barcelona is a beautiful city. I knew nothing of the city. We took a stroll. Having informed guides really helped us to make the best of the day we had there. Next day, Saturday, after a breakfast at a local cafi we hit the road. Despite some delays with traffic (it seemed that all of Spain was going to France for the weekend) the ride was pleasant. The views along the way ranged from awesome to stunning. Emiliano treated us to the sounds of some of his favourite Spanish/Catalan singers. As we approached the region of the fest we stopped a couple of times. We took look at the Gorge and hermitage at Galamus. This was breathtaking. We may have taken the longer route to the fest but it was worth it for the views alone. Let me just tell you this: the roads in this region are bloody scary! Winding, winding, winding narrow roads, cars doing the death dance as they pass each other, rocks to one side, huge drop to the other. The fest site was not visible from the road. As Catherine said, the parked cars were the big giveaway. As we pulled up we spotted Catherine and her family and then Ashara with Eric  our first hellos and who and how are yous of the fest. The view was something else. We could see a wind farm on a rocky hill many miles away, cliffs, valleys, forests, but no fest, no buildings. We headed down a rocky track, bags in hand, and emerged in what I can only describe as a hippy haven: wooden buildings, stone ruins, fruit trees everywhere, chickens, dogs, cats, a vegetable garden, and numerous JMDLers milling around. I spent the rest of the day laughing, saying oh, look at that, and meeting list members and, in some cases, their lovely families. Laurent gave us a tour of the site. Walking along one route one found an open area where we ate at long tables under trees (this was where Jean Yves and his friends and family stayed and prepared the food), then we were led through a little seating area and a vegetable patch to the performance area, following this was space that Lucy eventually camped, take a turn left up the hill to the toilet (why do I mention this? Well, the view from the crapper was amazing, lol. Lieve told a lovely tale  I leave that one to her), go straight to the first shower (water heated by the sun in coiled pipes under sheets of glass) or a right turn down the hill to the lower bungalow and the area that Steph and Anita camped. As we walked through the fruit trees Laurent told us to eat the fruit  so sweet. He then brought us to what, for many, was the real jaw-dropper  the rock pool. A clear pool of water in direct sunlight for a part of the day that was filled by water trickling down vibrantly coloured mossy rocks. This flowed down into a lower pool. You will see pictures. I took a dip each morning around eleven  it was so refreshing and did a job that even the finest coffee cannot. This was later the stage for a production of naked ladies singing and swimming, lol. I will not run through the performances as my memory for these things is weak. I enjoyed all of the performances. Musical highlights for me were Muller and Anita singing Woodstock (forgive me - did Laurent play the guitar for this?), Laurents eleven year old daughter singing some Beatles songs, Jamie singing Night Ride Home, Strings singing Cactus Tree to Martins guitar, almost anything by Randall, Claudia, and Claudia & Randall, Catherine McKays inspired choice of songs, Chris Marshall and Les Ross (they merge so perfectly), Thierrys Harrys House, this list goes on. On Saturday, Laurent led the way to the waterfalls (no idea what to actually call this place) where Strings and Randall were led to jump off cliffs into pools of water! The rest of us took a wonderful and wonderfully impressive, if slightly challenging, walk to meet them at the other end. This was a most satisfying afternoon. By this point, everyone was so comfortable you would swear we had been together all our lives. The pictures of Les Ross under the small waterfall are great! Ok, so there was a ten minute period in which it seemed that Jamie had vanished into thin air. On Sunday many of us stayed at the site while a trip was taken to a castle. An informal song circle emerged in the seating area at the vegetable garden. This was, for me, one of the high points of the weekend. We had Claudia singing Gillian Welch songs, Queen Lulu singnig McGarrigle sister songs, John van Tiel singing John Denver (yes, thats right!!), Sam (Lucys son) performed Hallelujah (this was his first time singing in front of a bunch of strangers and we were all mighty impressed). Later on, as the wine flowed, this turned into the song game. This was one of those impromptu things that could not have been planned. Two teams competing in a musical game of song association. WE KICKED YOUR ASSES!!! Lucy, Strings, Adriano and his family, Randall, Sam and I versus Mike, Muller, Ashara and Lizzie (ok, so it seems like there were so many of us but you gotta understand that Muller can associate anything with anything based on Joni covers alone!). Leaving and saying goodbye isnt something Im very good at. Most people had gone by this point. Besides Mike, Emiliano and I only lucy and her family remained and the members of Stryngs. As Mike and I walked up the track with our bags on Tuesday morning we were serenaded with hi ho hi ho, its up the hill you go. A fittingly funny ending to a weekend characterised by hot weather, fun, friendly atmosphere, wine, falling plums, music, cool water and great people. Ill leave it there as there are so many reports to come in yet. Spending time meeting members of the list, forming friendships and making connections, renewing links, meeting old friends, this was what was most special about the weekend. My only real complaint would be that so many list members all over the world were not there. Many thanks go to Laurent and Jean-Yves for their hard work and hospitality and to Martin Giles (who goes nowhere without his canine friend) for working so hard on the sound system and to Mike for his hospitality in Barcelona. There are one thousand and one other things I could say, but will keep them for another day. GARRET - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Carter Subject: Re: A lithograph and accompanying invitations (VLJC) All, Remember that I reported that the seller of the lithograph contacted me and offered me the item straight out? Well the person who originally contacted me and this newcomer person are not the same. I fired off an e-mail to the original auction seller asking what's up, and he said the lithograph has been signed, sealed, delivered, and paid for, so this must be a scam attempt. I think the good folks at eBay will be getting a note from me about the attempted scam by a certain someone. Thanks to all for keeping me outta trouble. Loren....slamming the wallet shut - --- Laurent Olszer wrote: > Hi Loren > > I think it's one of two things: > * Either as someone pointed out the seller has more > lithos to sell and IMO > this decreases its value because it's not as rare as > expected > * Or it's a "second chance offfer" from ebay which > from personal experiences > are scams 99% of the time. Make sure the address of > the person making that > offer is exacty the same as the one in the original > ad, down to the last > letter of the suffix. > > Laurent Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:08:35 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Helping new artists... and keeping candles lit (sjc) Walt wrote: Yes, it is a shame, and it ties in with my perennial question as to why she doesn't form her own label and promote artists the way she says the music industry doesn't. (Whoa, excuse the syntax.) I'd very much like her to light a candle rather than merely curse the darkness. Hi Walt, I like this idea. No telling how much this would affect the course of music today and it's direction tomorrow... I know it would do a lot of good. It is all a circle game so greats are bound to happen regardless of the present lack of "muse" and mostly "ic" today. Joni has already contributed a lot of energy to the musical carousel, and I imagine even if she really doesn't try, there will be more of her influence in time. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:11:19 -0400 From: Patti Witten Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) Nuriel Tobias wrote: > My question is has Joni ever helped younger musicians to step out of the > shadows? Why do i get the feeling she never had and only cared about her own > career? Just think of all those musicians out there she might have helped to > sit in the front row with her, or somewhere near it. It's a damn shame, don't > you think? I'll bite this. I understand your question. But do you know that she isn't anonymously or even actively involved in non-profit arts organizations, or directly participating in some capacity to provide opportunities to young (or old) artists? Perhaps she's donated instruments, artwork, manuscripts, etc. to causes like this. But here's the thing: It's a choice, not a duty. From my own limited experience, my personal economy of time and emotional strength are precious and easily sapped. Not that I'm anywhere near her celestial level, but I bet you $10 Joni doesn't see herself at the top of the success ladder. You always see yourself as continuing to struggle for validation, recognition, reward. Because you still struggle to attain your own goals you can hardly put others first. I bet she sees the bottomless well of talent out there and wonders, if I began, where would I draw the line? Imagine the pressure of people and fans clamoring for her (as with all celebrities) attention, guilting or guiling her into this or that charitable project. I myself am involved in several indie musicians discussion groups, a local songwriters group, I'm an officer in my indie label co-op, I do my share of volunteer and benefit gigs and I answer emails all the time asking for help. It takes a lot of time and energy. So I do it for myself, in a sense. When the balance tips out of my favor I draw the line, close the door, turn off the phone and I say "no." I've actually had people tell me that as an indie they are entitled to my hard-earned knowledge and expertise, and they're pissed if I withhold it. Now *that's* selfish. Easy to characterize artists with Joni's talent, drive, ambition and originality as selfish. And maybe it's rare that they are not. I've said too much, I've over-personalized the topic. Sorry! But she doesn't owe anyone in this regard, IMO. Patti - -- Patti Witten on I-Town Records www.itownrecords.com MySpace http://myspace.com/pattiwitten http://pattiwitten.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:14:27 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:11:19 -0400 Patti Witten wrote: > But here's the thing: It's a choice, not a duty. From my >own limited > experience, my personal economy of time and emotional >strength are precious > and easily sapped. Yes, that is the thing exactly. This no small task some are setting for her; it's more: here's what you should do with the majority of your working life. Running an indi label is a lot of work--I've known a couple people who have. I think the people who are in charge of fixing the roads should do a better job cleaning and repairing them, but I'm not going to quit all my own interest and do it myself. ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: C&S, HOSL, Hejira and DJRD -- Let's play: where's the orphan? Hi Walt, much as I'd love to be able to dissect things a bit more in-depth with you, I'm afraid I only have the "picture" as far as DJRD..and I don't even see that one clearly. I think C&S is different from the others (in my limited Joni-sight) because of the production. Also, the bit of orchestral stuff thrown in the arrangements, is kind of different - but on the other hand, FTR has a bit of that too. Not sure *why* C&S stands out..its almost like Joni from a parallel universe! In any case, compared to those of you who can listen to allllllllll the Joni albums, I have a very limited perspective. But it seems it made sense to some folks when I said that before, about C&S, so what the heck! wishing you and all a great day. :D Em - --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > Hi Patti and Em and all, > > To recap: > > Em wrote: > > > I see HOSL and Hejira as being "related" sonically...but C&S is > kind of > > a glorious "orphan". > > and Psatti said: > > >Em, what a great phrase: glorious orphan. Can I steal it?? > > I agree -- I love the term -- although I don't see C&S that way, I > *do*, for example, see Mingus and WTRF that way, as they don't sound > like anything she'd done before or since (to my ears, anyhoo). > > Blue, FTR, C&S, MoA and HOSL to my ears form an arc, increasingly > jazzy; then, rather to my (only initial) disappointment, Heijira had > a completely different, almost mesmerizing sound to it. The melodies > of some of the songs were minimalistic, three-note themes with > occasional arpeggios. The poetry, on the other hand! Possibly the > best she's ever done. > ...snip.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:38:13 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Jonifest France Well, here I am back at work in what can only be described as a triumph of hope over expectation when it comes to actually working. So, that's Fest over for another year with mutterings from Adriano of maybe doing it in Trieste in Italy next year. We'll see. I arrived in the area on Wednesday before the event with a view to chilling out and getting out of the London-head-mode and into a quieter place. When I landed at Carcassonne airport (runway with adjacent temporary structure for transit purposes...slight exageration) I was delighted when I switched my cell phone on to receive a text from John Van Tiel to say that he and Claudia Sans Soucie were already settled in at a farm near to the Fest site. We met up that night and it was wonderful to see them again. The following morning the three of us went to look for the site and to meet up with Randall Williams (www.whereisrandall.com ) with whom Claudia had been playing over the period of the previous month. Randall had hitched a ride (or two) down from Belgium and was already settled onsite. By a process of elimination really, we arrived at a wide spot on the road and agred - with no great conviction - that this was in fact the place. From the side of the road absolutely nothing could be seen. Nothing but a steeply sloped and heavily wooded descent to the valley floor. Lovely location only there was nothing but location there. Claudia let out this piercing whistle which echoed off the valley walls and minutes later, emerging from what appeared to be a virtually impassable track, Randall arrived. Let me just say that the songs Claudia and Randall performed at the fest and which I was priveliged to witness being rehearsed are among the best I've ever witnessed anywhere. I mean, I've always loved Claudia's singing and her songs. But the two of them together? A futher example of a union sometimes being greater than the sum of its parts. I present for your consideration those two. So, Randall led us down the track from the bright southern French sun into the relief and shadow of Le Moulin. I'd not heard it being identified at such but when I was describing it to Madame Tavart who owned the house I stayed in just a mile or so down the road, this is how she named it. One's immediate impression was one of 'OMG, what is this?' Scenes from Deliverance tracked uncertainly across my mind as the requisite big dog tugged on the end of its chain, old car tyres leaned at dangerous angles, junk and wood piled up hither and yon before the shell of what must have been the original old mill (le moulin). And that was just the first little area at the end of the rough track road. Over then to the left and the first of a couple of more recently constructed wooden buildings. One, no more than a room set on stilts, the next along slightly larger containing what was Jean-Yves's bedroom, little sitting area and kitchen. In front of that structure was a landing whereon at least three adult cats nursed very many more kittens. In the afternoon heat they were one amorphous pile of fur oblivious to the world. There were a number of tables set up in front of this before the land sloped away precipitously to further terracing below. And all of it covered in bushes and trees. Some bearing fruit, some not. Of damsons there were very many both hanging blue purple or fallen, split and revealing their ochre and juicy flesh. No time spent at the table eating went uninterrupted by falling fruit. And so further along this particular terrace and dappled in shade from the trees, past the midden where everything returned to useful rot, past the chickens to a more open space and probably the widest and flatest area in the entire lot. There a tent had been set up for the intruments. My first impression was that this was the venue inside of which we'd play and indeed sit. But no, in the event, the sides went up and we, the audience, would hunker down on mats or sit on chairs dragged from the buildings back along the pathway. It was starting to make more sense now. Beyond this area were a couple of more flat spots where tents could be set up. Then at last the toilet. A cute little shed with a fully functioning WC and wash hand basin. This last connected to the waste water pipe by an inverted and suitably cut plastic bottle. But the killer touch was the view. From the perch point of the WC one had, whether one liked it or not, a spectacular shutter window view of the valley and the mountains in the distance. One's anxiety on the privacy issues inherent in such an arrangement fully settled by the fact that the 'shed' was so positioned that no one could see in. That there was a bloody great hole in the door immediately to one's right was of no moment. Pathways ran at various inclines down and down to where a bungalow slept, I think, six people. Showers were open and notionally discreet. Water supply was not mains (so far as I'm given to understand) and heated from the sun by being under recovered car window glass piled one on the other over a very large coil of plastic piping. On the western end of the site, there was a pathway along the top of a wall, kinda like a viaduct, which if you followed and climbed a little you arrived at the waterhole. This was fed off the moss covered wall and was mighty cold at whatever time of day you went to take a dip. But no matter, it was brilliant and again blessed with a pretty good view. Skinny dipping featured as occassional recreation and may indeed feature recorded by one of the many picture-takers present who just happened to be passing by. Up from there was a stone circle. It was a 'recent' confection and a lovely location. It was suggested that a song circle might take place there but that came to nothing. It was all very relaxed and, once you got into it, lovely. Music tended to start late in the day. In fact on the last night it didn't start until after 11pm. As happens every year at fest, the music was great. Everyone enjoyed themselves, gave their best and appreciation universal. A couple of convoy-type trips were organised only one of which I joined. The one referred to elsewhere involving Strings and Randall leaping from improbable heights into fearsomely cold water. Ah youth.... The second trip, on the Monday...was it the Monday or the Sunday?...., was to a castle about an hour distant. There wasn't a great uptake on that one. I knew where they were headed as I'd been there a couple of days before with john and claudia and balked at the idea of anytime spent in the heat of the sun climbing up to that. So, along with many other slackers we gathered together under a copse of trees on seats, benches and hammocks in what can only be described as a human puppy pile. A convention I believe jonifests should embrace vigourously. And so expired the Monday afternoon. Twas truly fine. Then that mad song association thing started up and it all went seriously bonkers. I took off to the plunge pool before drying off up at the stone circle. Like I said, the last night of performances began and ended late. Claudia and Randall closed the show with Randall on his own giving the final curtain call. It was all a bit brilliant. Goodbyes weren't protracted as people had to find their way back to remote hotels and rooms and what-have-you. The next morning along with a few others from Stryngs we caught up with some of the late leavers like the Barcelona Bunch and Queen LuLu's court. Strings, Martin, Chris and I spent the remainder of the day riding the post fest blue train. They're still over there right now. Les, back in London, in the mocking sun. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:11:49 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: FW: [NortheastJonifest] Jonifest report (very long) Quoting "Jim L'Hommedieu, Lama" : > Wow! Thanks for the great review. I could see everyone in your > descriptions. Thanks. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Covington, KY, US > > And i didn't even mention Strings knocking out Lucy's "teeth" or chocolate monster Catherine or arm dancing to uhm diddle diddle uhm diddle ah;-) I have picturs developed and will scan them in soon. GARRET NP- Tori Amos, Murder, He Says - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:54:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Loren Carter Subject: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) All, Yesterday as I was driving home the local oldies station (100.3 for those here around DC) teased and mentioned that their forgotten 45 was to be a song written by Joni Mitchell. You know how hard it is to write and drive at the same time and not crash the car? Well, they finally played Woodstock by a group named Mathews Southern Comfort (I think, if I can read my driving scrawl). It didn't do anything for me, not after hearing our Ms. Joni's version. But it was nice to hear anything by her on the airwaves. It would have been nicer to hear her version, but every journey begins with a few small steps. Loren.... NP...absolutely nothing, gotta do something about that, and now! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) - --- Loren Carter wrote: > Well, they finally > played > Woodstock by a group named Mathews Southern Comfort > (I > think, if I can read my driving scrawl). > > It didn't do anything for me, not after hearing our > Ms. Joni's version. But it was nice to hear > anything > by her on the airwaves. It would have been nicer to > hear her version, but every journey begins with a > few > small steps. The Matthews Southern Comfort version of Woodstock was popular in Canada and the UK. I don't think it was played much in the US. I certainly remember it but it didn't exactly knock my socks off either, although it was always good to hear Joni being played by anyone. Iain Matthews played with Fairport Convention, among others. http://www.iainmatthews.com/ Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:01:26 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) > --- Loren Carter wrote: > >> Well, they finally >> played >> Woodstock by a group named Mathews Southern Comfort >> (I >> think, if I can read my driving scrawl). >> >> It didn't do anything for me, not after hearing our >> Ms. Joni's version. But it was nice to hear >> anything >> by her on the airwaves. It would have been nicer to >> hear her version, but every journey begins with a >> few >> small steps. > > The Matthews Southern Comfort version of Woodstock was > popular in Canada and the UK. I don't think it was > played much in the US. Unfortunately, it was. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:59:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Fwd: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) sent this to Jerry - meant to send back to the list as well...looks like it was '70-'71. I was 11. LOL, it sounded pretty good to an 11 years old! Em - --- Em wrote: > Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Em > Subject: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) > To: Jerry Notaro > > --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > > The Matthews Southern Comfort version of Woodstock was > > > popular in Canada and the UK. I don't think it was > > > played much in the US. > > > > Unfortunately, it was. > > Yeah I remember it too. A.m. radio, even. I liked it. For that time > (when was it?) when it was played here in the US, to me (and I was > pretty young and knew nothing) it was kind of a mysterious lead-in to > *other* kinds of music. Wish I knew what year they used to play it. > Then I remember hearing other stuff by Ian Matthews in, I think, the > early 80's and I thought it was pretty cool too. > Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) I'm a "bit" older and knew the Joni and CSN versions first. So can you blame me :) Jerry Em wrote: > sent this to Jerry - meant to send back to the list as well...looks > like it was '70-'71. I was 11. LOL, it sounded pretty good to an 11 > years old! > Em > > > --- Em wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Em >> Subject: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) >> To: Jerry Notaro >> >> --- Jerry Notaro wrote: >> > > The Matthews Southern Comfort version of Woodstock was >> > > popular in Canada and the UK. I don't think it was >> > > played much in the US. >> > >> > Unfortunately, it was. >> >> Yeah I remember it too. A.m. radio, even. I liked it. For that time >> (when was it?) when it was played here in the US, to me (and I was >> pretty young and knew nothing) it was kind of a mysterious lead-in to >> *other* kinds of music. Wish I knew what year they used to play it. >> Then I remember hearing other stuff by Ian Matthews in, I think, the >> early 80's and I thought it was pretty cool too. >> Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 12:07:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Was: Playing of Woodstock on the radio / Now: BYT I just hobbled down the hill to the local supermarket, Johnny's Foodmaster, which we call the Foodmastah here in Boston. I know I'm not supposed to be on my feet -- or at least *one* of them -- but c'mon, what a gorgeous day it is. Everyone I know is at work, and I've been inside since my big trip to the orthopedic doctor on Tuesday afternoon, so give me a break. (Oops. Bad choice of words.) Anyway, when I walked into the Foodmastah, "Big Yellow Taxi" performed by Herself was playing! As I dragged my gimpy leg into the store, the line "don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you got 'til it's gone" was being sung. Amen to that, Sister Joan! - --Smurf, wondering if people are beginning to catch on to Joni... PS: I've learned my lesson and won't be going 'walking' any time soon! - --- Jerry Notaro wrote: > > --- Loren Carter wrote: > > > >> Well, they finally > >> played > >> Woodstock by a group named Mathews Southern > Comfort > >> (I > >> think, if I can read my driving scrawl). > >> > >> It didn't do anything for me, not after hearing > our > >> Ms. Joni's version. But it was nice to hear > >> anything > >> by her on the airwaves. It would have been nicer > to > >> hear her version, but every journey begins with a > >> few > >> small steps. > > > > The Matthews Southern Comfort version of Woodstock > was > > popular in Canada and the UK. I don't think it was > > played much in the US. > > Unfortunately, it was. > > Jerry > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:25:32 +0100 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) The MSC version of Woodstock was the first one I heard. I loved it then, and I still love it. I think it's a terrific arrangement; it has a woozy, (dare I say it) slightly stoned haze to it, which is fitting, and a great guitar solo - and Iain Matthews has a beautiful voice. Azeem in London NP: Mary Coughlan - After The Fall - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.10/73 - Release Date: 15/08/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:05:35 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Remix Project Hi everyone. Gerime has kindly sent me a mash up of Woodstock he stumbled onto for the Joni Remix Project. I am curious to know what has been mixed in with Joni on this. I'm wondering if it's CSNY. Anyone care to take a guess? Here's the link: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CD1D4F5OR06T3IPZWOTX8P2RU Keep those mixes coming and I will announce when the CD is available to start the rounds of JMDLers. Mark in Sydney NP Like Woodstock - Joni Mitchell/? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:14:44 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Remix Project Oops. Just realised it's Soundgarden mixed in with Joni on this one. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:56:48 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) Patti wrote: > Easy to characterize artists with Joni's talent, drive, > ambition and originality as selfish. And maybe it's rare > that they are not. I've said too much, I've > over-personalized the topic. Sorry! But she doesn't owe > anyone in this regard, IMO. I agree with you 100%. What people seem to forget is that this is/was Joni's job. Not a lucrative past-time, or a fun hobby - it's her source of income. I've been a database analyst/developer for 15 years or so, and have learned a lot in those years. So should I suddenly start tutoring people for free when I retire, or am I allowed to relax and enjoy the fruits of my labour? Would anyone here suddenly start working for nothing at the age of 60+? Joni may be bitter about the music industry, but I think it's completely unfair to call her selfish because she's not "mentoring" young talent. Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 18:41:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?) - --- hell@ihug.co.nz wrote: > Patti wrote: > > > Easy to characterize artists with Joni's talent, > drive, > > ambition and originality as selfish. And maybe > it's rare > > that they are not. I've said too much, I've > > over-personalized the topic. Sorry! But she > doesn't owe > > anyone in this regard, IMO. > > I agree with you 100%. What people seem to forget > is that > this is/was Joni's job. Not a lucrative past-time, > or a fun > hobby - it's her source of income. I've been a > database > analyst/developer for 15 years or so, and have > learned a lot > in those years. So should I suddenly start tutoring > people > for free when I retire, or am I allowed to relax and > enjoy > the fruits of my labour? Would anyone here suddenly > start > working for nothing at the age of 60+? Joni may be > bitter > about the music industry, but I think it's > completely unfair > to call her selfish because she's not "mentoring" > young > talent. I think a lot of us make certain assumptions: for example, we assume that, since Joni is unhappy with the music business, then she should just go off and start her own business, and oh yeah, while you're at it, how about helping out a bunch of starving indie artists at the same time? C'mon, you're rich and you're fay. But we forget how much work is involved in that, in addition to the full-time job (as songwriter, musician, or artist). I cringe at the idea of arranging an office lunch, would require strait-jacketing at even the thought of arranging a Jonifest GA GA GA! ... I admire those who can do these things, so thank the goddess for 'em! Some of us can do certain things, but haven't a clue how to teach others how to do it, much less to mentor them. NP a real purdy live recording of "Lovers in a dangerous time", Bruce Cockburn with Julie Wolf and a lovely jangly guitar. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:48:37 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: FW: [NortheastJonifest] Jonifest report (very long) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garret" > And i didn't even mention Strings knocking out Lucy's "teeth" or chocolate > monster Catherine or arm dancing to uhm diddle diddle uhm diddle ah;-) That must have been supercalifragilisticexpialidocious! Mark E. in Seattle very envious of what sounds like a wonderful fest ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:11:34 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians I think INSPIRATION counts for something. Joni might not have taken a youngster out of Julliard under her wing, but she's inspired many of songwriters/musicians. Some of them have become great artists. I could be wrong about this statement, but some of the jazz musicians that worked with her have become more famous on their own after touring with her. Also think of people on this list who picked up a guitar, played the piano, or began to sing........all because they were inspired by Joni. my two cents, Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:31:36 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Playing of Woodstock on the radio (SJC) I heard the LOTC version on the radio today. It is the 36th anniversary of the final day of the Woodstock festival. Loren Carter wrote: > All, > > Yesterday as I was driving home the local oldies > station (100.3 for those here around DC) teased and > mentioned that their forgotten 45 was to be a song > written by Joni Mitchell. > > You know how hard it is to write and drive at the same > time and not crash the car? Well, they finally played > Woodstock by a group named Mathews Southern Comfort (I > think, if I can read my driving scrawl). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:52:10 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni and Younger Musicians (SJC?)/Fest stuff I don't know what the feck you are blithering on about I can think of hundreds of musicians she has helped and tons of them right on this very list (least of all ME). Then there is every single FEMALE singer songwriter that she apparently nurtured their careers. Should we include a very young Pat Metheny and Lyle Mays? OHHH! You mean like signed them to her label and stuff like that huh?? Oh well nevermind! HI ALL I am back online and full of piss and vinegar. I have had a glorious 2 weeks + off and a beautiful visit with my family in Honduras. My house is still in disarray but coming along. I am insanely jealous of all those buttheads that got to go to FranceFest and I hate them all especially Muller, the divine Mr. Ross, Ashara, Ms. Stryngs Thang, Queen Lulu, Claudia, my former Uncle John, Catherine the Great, the best Bottom in the world, and I have heard no one mention that little drummer boy, did he not geaux??? It sounds like it was amazing and I also dread that because Chuck E. wasn't there that there were no recordings made????? Please tell me there were!! Hugs out to my broken Smurph! Many more blessings and good cheer to my wicked brother Julius and Gayle. Kudos to PattiP for the medical center reporting. Welcome to all the newbies (BUY FOR THE ROSES my fave and Hejira!!!!!) Now that I am caught up on the list maybe I can catch up on a few of the threads that I wanted to respond to but and to sleepy to go on. Hey Chris marshall let's get the bloody fotos up eh!!!! And PLEASE tell me someone was sober enough to record Love Paz NP- The losing Saints (by 5) on TV > Patti wrote: > >> Easy to characterize artists with Joni's talent, drive, >> ambition and originality as selfish. And maybe it's rare >> that they are not. I've said too much, I've >> over-personalized the topic. Sorry! But she doesn't owe >> anyone in this regard, IMO. > > I agree with you 100%. What people seem to forget is that > this is/was Joni's job. Not a lucrative past-time, or a fun > hobby - it's her source of income. I've been a database > analyst/developer for 15 years or so, and have learned a lot > in those years. So should I suddenly start tutoring people > for free when I retire, or am I allowed to relax and enjoy > the fruits of my labour? Would anyone here suddenly start > working for nothing at the age of 60+? Joni may be bitter > about the music industry, but I think it's completely unfair > to call her selfish because she's not "mentoring" young > talent. > > > Hell ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #236 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)