From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #231 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, August 14 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 231 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Hi Everyone!!! [Peep Richman ] Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) [DontPoll@aol.com] Re: Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) ["Mark Scott" ] Welcome Newbies! [jrmco1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 07:40:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Hi Everyone!!! Sending warm wishes to everyone for a safe, happy, musical weekend! I can't remember who wrote and preformed "Dust in the Wind"....a Molly Menopause Moment...help????? Sherelle, what's "perclempt"? From your last few postings, I want you to know I hope you're having a 'Chelsea Morning' today. I've been thinking about you, sending out vibes to wish you a time for less reflection....although I think reflection can surely give birth to change...growth. I'm dealing with a family who isn't dealing with 'Edith'...FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!!!! I'm sending in the King-pin! Bob, I'm broke at the moment but sooner, hopefully than later, you'll receive the blanks etc. And so many thanks for the invite. Brian....I lost your e-mail address!!!!!! Please write!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Signing off with; "Well there're so many sinking now You've got to keep thinking You can make it through these waves" Sending love to all, Bo Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:18:16 EDT From: DontPoll@aol.com Subject: Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) Hi all, Glad to be a part of this discussion. Although, I must admit, I'm far from a longtime Joni Mitchell fan. In fact, I just 'discovered' her a few months ago. I'm pretty young (22 years old), so my only knowledge of Joni prior to this year was the song "Big Yellow Taxi". That's *all* I knew by her; Thus, I had always written her off completely. Not that I actively hated the song, but I assumed all Joni Mitchell music was just like that. Y'know, flower power, hippie folky stuff. However, that all changed this year. It was a snowy, bitter cold day, and I was driving home from work listening to the radio (Buffalo's 107.7 The Lake, for those from around there..I live in Rochester, NY btw, but we receive this radio station). I heard this amazing song on the radio, and had to look up the female artist. Who could this be??? I remembered a lyric, and found out it was Joni Mitchell. "Joni Mitchell made music that sounded like that??" I 'researched' her music (aka went to AllMusic.com, and looked thru her Discography, album reviews, etc). I had no clue she experiemented with jazz and such. Being reletively broke, I didn't buy buy buy right away. I just kind of kept her in the back of my mind..someone to buy an album from eventually. So I guess I wasn't super intrigued at the time, otherwise I would've bought some of her music right away. Nonetheless, I did buy one of her albums, albeit a few months later in April. It was "Blue". I read a lot of reviews saying it was her best album and what not. I wasn't entirely sure if I'd like it..but from the opening dulcimer intro of "All I Want", I was instantly hooked. It was so spare and beautiful..but not too spare either. I found songs like "Carey", "California", and the aforementioned "All I Want" really *catchy* as well. Every song was just terrific. And it also made me discover that Barry Manilow did NOT write "River"! (I had known his version for a couple years prior. I won't say he butchered it, but Joni's is vastly superior) Over the next month or two, I bought some more of her stuff. "Song to a Seagull", "Clouds", "Ladies of the Canyon", "Turbulent Indigo", and most recently (three weeks ago), the Geffen Complete Box Set. My favorite album is still "Blue", followed by "Night Ride Home" and "Dog Eat Dog". If I had to pick 15 favorite songs, it would look something like this (keep in mind I haven't heard a large chunk of her songs). Don't read too much into the order I've put them in.. 1. Two Grey Rooms 2. The Last Time I Saw Richard 3. I Don't Know Where I Stand 4. The Circle Game 5. The Beat of Black Wings 6. The Magdelene Laundries 7. Impossible Dreamer 8. Cactus Tree 9. Tax Free 10. This Flight Tonight 11. A Bird that Whistles 12. A Case of You 13. River 14. Passion Play 15. Slouching Toward Bethlehem (That was very tough task, actually..there's so many other songs I could list as favorites) Anyway, even though I've only dipped half of my leg into her catalogue of music, I look forward to hearing more. Her music is very rewarding, intriguing, fun, emotional. Music doesn't get much better. I'm glad I had the radio on at the right time that day. FYI, my favorite musician is Todd Rundgren. I'm also a big fan of the following: The Beatles, XTC, Laura Nyro, Steely Dan, Carole King, Rickie Lee Jones, Joe Jackson, The Beach Boys, Tom Waits, Tori Amos, PJ Harvey, Bjork, Radiohead, Stone Temple Pilots, and a few others. For some reason, I seem to gravitate more towards the solo musician (singer/songwriter) crop as opposed to bands. I also enjoy playing guitar and piano. Not that great at either one, truth be told, but I originally found JMDL a few weeks ago via Howard's superb guitar/tab site. The Joni tabs on here are top notch, of the ones I've tried out. Big kudos to Howard, Marian, Sue, and anyone else involved in those many transcriptions. When I play other people's songs, I'm anal about playing it exactly like they did..and these tabs sound absolutely perfect. I love Joni's style of guitar, with all the open tunings. I haven't played the instrument for long at all, but she's already influenced me a lot in the way I play. I also love her piano work, but I already "learned" that sort of style from Todd Rundgren's work (they both play the instrument in a similar fashion, which is cool, because I can pick up her piano based songs pretty easily). That's my long, rambling, ultimately pointless, story of how I arrived here! If I bored anyone, I apologize! :-] Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:56:00 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) - ----- Original Message ----- From: > That's my long, rambling, ultimately pointless, story of how I arrived > here! > If I bored anyone, I apologize! :-] > > Brian > I doubt that you bored anybody on this list, Brian. We love stories like this. Some of us have been devoted to Joni's music for 30 or more years. It's always good to hear that people are still getting turned on to it. Others will tell you that you should get 'Hejira'. I would also highly recommend 'Court and Spark', 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' and 'Don Juan's Reckless Daughter'. Those records culminating with 'Mingus' are considered to be Joni's 'jazz' period. All of them are superior listening. From 'Blue' she started to add more layers to her music and it got to be very sophisticated. Anyway, welcome to the JMDL and congratulations on your discovery of some really fine music! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:09:38 -0500 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 51-60 of JM Covers In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers of Joni's songs here is the latest round of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work: When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them around within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect that to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting them get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the tracks for years. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you will have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please pass the masters along. So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 51-60, please send me: 1. Your mailing address and 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. Enjoy and have a nice weekend, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 14:32:57 -0500 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: VC: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 51-60 of JM Covers Offer closed -- going to Brian Gross - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Music Is Special" To: "Joni List" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 51-60 of JM Covers > In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a > chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers > of Joni's songs here is the latest round of the Perpetual Joni Covers > Trains. > > For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work: > When the disks come to you, you make > copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to > this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not > keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most > trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters > along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them around > within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect that > to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang > on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to > respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if > everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting them > get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the > tracks for years. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains > so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you > will > have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include > these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these > into > MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next > person - > MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so > please > pass the masters along. > > So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 51-60, please send me: > 1. Your mailing address and > 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. > > Enjoy and have a nice weekend, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:56:21 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) Hi Brian- nice reading about your personal journey into Joniland, and always great to get some young blood into the fold! I will second the suggestions Mark gave, (Hejira, yes!) and add "For The Roses", her masterpiece that followed "Blue". Your musical tastes mentioned are similar to mine and others here- so you obviously have good taste : ) RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: VC: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 51-60 of JM Covers It's never too soon to ask: Who wants Vol 51-60 after me? Please write me offlist. Thanks. Brian briangross@rocketmail.com - --- Music Is Special wrote: > Offer closed -- going to Brian Gross > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Music Is Special" > To: "Joni List" > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:09 PM > Subject: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 51-60 of JM Covers > > > > In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a > > chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers > > of Joni's songs here is the latest round of the Perpetual Joni Covers > > Trains. > > > > For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work: > > When the disks come to you, you make > > copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to > > this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not > > keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most > > trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters > > along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them > around > > within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect > that > > to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang > > on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to > > respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if > > everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting > them > > get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the > > tracks for years. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains > > so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you > > will > > have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please > include > > these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these > > into > > MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next > > person - > > MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so > > please > > pass the masters along. > > > > So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 51-60, please send me: > > 1. Your mailing address and > > 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. > > > > Enjoy and have a nice weekend, Eric > I've looked at love from both sides now From give and take, and still somehow It's love's illusions I recall I really don't know love at all --Joan, with the wisdom of the ages Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 15:07:40 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Newbie Here! (How I discovered Joni et al..) On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:56:00 -0700 "Mark Scott" wrote: > Others will tell you that you should get 'Hejira'. I >would also highly recommend 'Court and Spark', 'The >Hissing of Summer Lawns' and 'Don Juan's Reckless >Daughter'. Those records culminating with 'Mingus' are >considered to be Joni's 'jazz' period. All of them are >superior listening. While I know we tend to say no "me too" posts, I have to make an exception by agreeing with the above recommendations. Your ears will be happy. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 17:33:30 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni mention in Best Life magazine - 9/2005 Found this in the September 2005 issue of Best Life magazine. The article is Catch Her If You Can by Greg Melville starting on page 23 page 26 (speaking of romatic getaways) Joni Mitchell might have filled your woman's head with silly ideas about what to expect from a relationship, but she was right on the money when she sang, "...You don't know what you've got till it's gone." The Maldives are sinking; the snows of Kilimanjaro are melting, and a Wal-Mart sign rises near the ruins of what the Mayans called the City of the Gods. The world's natural and human-made wonders are going, going, and soon to be gone. So plan a trip to one of these vanishing gems. You'll create a memory to pass on to your grandchildren, and you might even prevent your old lady from leaving you in a big yellow taxi. You can request a trial issue here: http://www.bestlifeonline.com/ or request a trial issue AND enter to win a dream grill (has 6 stainless steel cast burners!) here: http://www.bestlifeonline.com/grill/?cds_response_key=I5EB0030 Laura P.S. A clean freebie from Walmart online: http://web.emarketinginc.com/walmart/pg_tide/tide.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 04:29:26 +0100 From: "George Ober" Subject: Another Newbie - Another Joni Lover. I am 16 and i live in Canberra, Aus or Lodon, Uk depending on the month. My first awakening to joni was through the movie 'Love Actually'. Myself along with my whole family instantly fell in love with the movie especially my dad, my step-mum and me. So the following Christmas dad and I decided to buy a "oh but you always love scarves' scarf and the Joni Cd that was in the movie for my step-mum. I had never really heard of Joni beofre but I loved BSN (OV) and today it is still one of my favourite Joni songs. But Dad din't buy the BSN album but instead je Bought C&S. i asked him why he did this and he said he loked at BSN and didnt really liked it and he used to have C&S on vinyl and grew up being a teenager to it. So that Christmas was just an intimate one wiht just three of us in London. True to tradition we went to St Pauls for mass on christmas morning and C&S got put on in the car. My dad went staright to Twisted which i still love. From that monet i fell in love with Joni. C&S holds so many special memories for all three peoplein that car at that moment. All three of us know all of ther lyrics of by heart from that album. Since then I have slowly been building up my Joni collection. I Have 4 pinvback buttons that have the covers of some of her albums on them that I wera wiht my school uniform and everyone goes whos that. i explain to all my teen frineds and they go whos she. I say the writer of BYT and they usually go on about Counting Crows. At the start of their counting Crows ramble i usually run away intears. I listen to her everyday and she has sought of become my therapist. I dont listen to any other music that si remotely lik hers. fir example my equal favorite artist is Kylie Minogue. I have a playlist on my iPod with all of the songs I own from both Joni & Kylie and their songs dance together through my head. Its admittedly a weird contrast. I since have recovered my dads vinyl from my grandparents and i went and boguht a vinyl player just so i could listen to C&S on my dads vinyl and so that I can grow up being a teenager with Joni in my life. I have Joni favorites aswell. 1. Come In From The Cold 2. Twisted 3. Both Sides Now (Orchestral Version) 4. Chinese cafe 5. Car On A Hill Thanks for letting me share and thansk for your time. George ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:30:10 -0400 From: "Mike and Alice Hicks" Subject: personal domestic bliss/SJC Grace slick was the first real female singer that did it for me. It was 1968 and Surrealistic Pillow was in the cutout bin. I took a chance and it changed my musical life. I was into all the male artists....Hendrix, Beatles, Byrds....and then that wonderful Grace on SP was almost too much to bear. Jefferson Airplane became my anthem group. I loved the group's power, lyrics, and the metamorphises of the band. Whatever they released next I bought. It was pretty much that way for the female singers. Oh I had heard Joan Baez, Carly Simon, Carole King, Joni Mitchell and respected all their work. I never really bought anything they ever did. I was into Mountain, Deep Purple, Hendrix, Led Zeppelin...you get the picture. Then, came Genesis (the band). No, I did not care for it at first. But it grew on me. Genesis helped mellow me out a little and I started appreciating lyrics on the album cover a little more. Then in '76 an album named Hejira was released. I could not get enough. I immedidately went and bought everything she did prior to that. I was obsessed with her music and still am to this day. I buy pictures of her on ebay, Gold and MFSL discs that I am ashamed to tell how much I paid for them. Grace along with Joni opened the closed doors for female artists. Now it seems that about 9 out of 10 cd's I buy are by female artists. My favorites are Dar Williams, Garrison Starr, Neco Case, Patty Griffin, Aimee Mann, Alanis Morissette, Nancy Griffith, Patty Loveless, Karla Bonoff, and Lucinda Williams and Joni. (The latter 7 I have had the pleasue of seeing live). Women have played a big role in my musical journey. And you know, all these women write most of their own stuff, and there is an ocean of music out there by these artists. I apologize for the length. I became over klempf. Mike NPOMC: Garrison Starr - Satellites ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 01:18:29 -0400 From: "Mike and Alice Hicks" Subject: Dar Williams/SJC If you have no Dar Williams music, grab up the Beauty of the Rain cd immediately, then do as I did with Joni's music.....work your way back and get the rest. She is a great story teller. I will never tire of the song the Babysitter. What a great story. It's really good on the Out There live cd. I would like to catch her in concert. You can catch her on Austin City Limits every now and then.......Nancy Griffith, Patty Griffin too!!!!! Mike NP: X - See How We Are ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:56:29 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Welcome Newbies! Welcome to the Joni-loving madding masses here on the JMDL, George and Brian. So young, yet such gifted story-tellers. With eclectic tastes in our Joan, to boot! Twenty-two years old and you count DED among your favorites, Brian? Clearly, you rock! Cool to run across youngbloods who "get-it." I like what you like, too, Bri. Well, quite frankly, I love it all! (Exception: "Dancin' Clown" :) In my musical experience, and at my age (40ish), one could accurately call it "vast," no other album holds a candle to Blue. Digging your sense of humor, George. Welcome! Still giggling at this: "I Have 4 pinvback buttons that have the covers of some of her albums on them that I wera wiht my school uniform and everyone goes whos that. i explain to all my teen frineds and they go whos she. I say the writer of BYT and they usually go on about Counting Crows. At the start of their counting Crows ramble i usually run away intears." The lot of what you wrote was a beautifully touching Joni-story, G. We live for those vivid first-time-I-heard-Joni reflections around here. Such splendid visual imagery and characterizations shrouded in good humour! We're going to love you here! Right now, I'm wishing you "Blue Motel Room." If you haven't heard it, won't you give it a spin and let us know your thoughts? Sunny Sunday, Joni-friends! And bon voyage all ye heading to Jonifest! Vive Joni Mitchell!!! 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