From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #226 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, August 9 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 226 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- FIRE!!!!! [Peep Richman ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? ["Michael Flaherty" ] FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [Peep Richman ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: Is Joni A Loon?:) ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? ["Michael Flaherty" ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? [Bob Muller ] Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? ["Michael Flaherty" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 05:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: FIRE!!!!! __________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:05:46 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? I think I like Jamie's catagories best: > Jamie Zubairi said in part, >>The Early Period > This is at least from 1966 to 1972 > > The Middle Period > (or Joni's Jazz Age) >From 1974 to 1981. > > The Angry Years >From 1982 to 1988 > > Later Works >From 1991 to present day (but I will accept a cut-off > point at 1997) And marks a return to the acoustic > instrument, a broadening of themes, a return to love.> I had been thinking in terms of 3, but you're right, '91 does bring in a new, final it seems, era. I love all 4, but I'm definetly a "second era" person. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 06:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Hi...... Interesting experience last Thursday.....there was a torrential downpour here (the Garden State), then a few thunderous rumblings....then a ear-shattering BOOM!!!! I live in an apartment complex....huge, don't like it here....and that BOOM was a lightning hit.....I walked outside, smelled the smoke and all of our building was evacuated, like the wind pitching a monsterous breath causing the leave to quiver, threatening to fall to the ground. We were all standing in the hot, hot sun for hours, although I was huddled in my car with my four frightened, as in FRIGHTENED, dogs. I ran into my adjoining neighbor's apartment....lucky she had given me a key....and brought her dog to safety. Once everyone and every animal was accounted for, the fire trucks came zooming in along with several cop cars. Well, 'the walls came tumbling down', and all we could do was watch. The main hit was in the back and three apartments were completely demolished. I'm right across from them so thank the heavens, all I'm contending with is soot and more soot. Joni's fine or I'd be blubbering along these lines of BOOM and gloom. The Red Cross interviewed everyone, offering $400 for clothing and $200 for food. When my interview time came around, I told the nice Red Cross lady that I wanted what they would have given me and my sister to go to the families who experienced much more damage. "Oh, my dear, what a kind gesture." Wouldn't you guys have interpreted that as a positive response to my request???????? Well, that "kind gesture" stayed in the Red Cross bank of emergency funds.....I should have accepted it and I should have given it to the other families....but I'm too trusting...reality is, I didn't think along those lines. We're getting out of this fire-trap just as soon as my credit score gets a little (or a lot) higher and we can afford a trailer or a mobile, pre-fab home. On to much more important things.........Laura, I loved your suggestions for honoring the earth!!!! Consider them done (by the end of a few weeks)! Has anyone heard from Brian, who is recovering from surgery? Brian, if you're reading this, vibes of love and speedy recovery are sent daily! Bob, I'd love to send you some b's & p for several on your list. Where do I send it? Off to help one of my neighbors....... All be safe, Love from Bo Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:55:25 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? Thank you Michael. Flaherty will get you everywhere! ;-) Sorry I couldn't resist! I'm definitely a Middle Period and The Later Works person... though I do love everything from all her works... apart from most of Clouds... I don't know why... it just seems stuck in that era and doesn't seem to be the one that can move... if you know what I mean... it feels the most dated. That and Dog Eat Dog! Much Joni Jamie Zoob Getting ready to pack my things for leaving for the Jonifest on Friday. No doubt there will be more random ideas and thoughts from The Zoob 'til then... - --- Michael Flaherty wrote: > I think I like Jamie's catagories best: > > > Jamie Zubairi said in part, > >>The Early Period > > This is at least from 1966 to 1972 > > > > The Middle Period > > (or Joni's Jazz Age) > >From 1974 to 1981. > > > > The Angry Years > >From 1982 to 1988 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:00:20 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Is Joni A Loon?:) Hi Jamie, This is so on the money! Thank you for being in mental overdrive! You are so right! This is why I have such deep affection for Joni. She was brave enough to share this experience with us through song. She made it all right to be a little broken. Court and Spark is my catharthis CD. I play it when I need to figure things out. I need to hear someone be brave enough to verbalize her fears and her shortcomings so beautifully. I can definitely relate to the pain she was going through at the time. As a seventeen year old in L.A. at the time I first heard her music, it hit so very close to home. I felt like she was speaking right to me. The timing of discovering her music was perfect. Bittersweet but good memories. Thanks Jamie for reminding me of those! Sherelle NPIMH-People's Parties..."I told you when I met you I was crazy..." Jamie wrote: Hello Nuriel If you read Court and Spark like a diary, a collection of thoughts of a period of time, you would get the sense that Joni was certainly going through it at that point. From articles of the time and interviews about the time, you do get the feeling (and often the evidence!) that she was going though a depression (the house in the Canadian back-bush, reading of all theories of modern thought and philosophy and psychology) all point to an outward manifestation of disturbance. It ended around Court and Spark. Her next album turns away from her inner life and describes the life around her. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:51:04 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 14:55:25 +0100 (BST) Jamie Zubairi wrote: it feels the most dated. > > That and Dog Eat Dog! I do know what you mean, and there not my personal favorites either, but there's a certain charm in those albums being so much of their particular time. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:26:38 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? Yes... they do contain some of my favourite songs - 3 Great Stimulants, Ethiopia, Lucky Girl, Impossible Dreamer, Both Sides Now, The Fiddle and the Drum and, to me, one of the most haunting lines of Joni's canon 'Some come dark and strange like dying...' Don't know why but whenever I'm in Covent Garden this line comes into my head.... Much Joni Jamie Zoob - --- Michael Flaherty wrote: > > I do know what you mean, and there not my personal > favorites either, but there's a certain charm in > those > albums being so much of their particular time. > > Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:30:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? And isn't it funny that Joni's "Angry Years" period were when she was supposedly living in wedded bliss with Mr. Klein? I guess you can read into that what you will. Bob NP: Gomez, "Rosalita" Michael Flaherty wrote: I think I like Jamie's catagories best: > Jamie Zubairi said in part, >>The Early Period > This is at least from 1966 to 1972 > > The Middle Period > (or Joni's Jazz Age) >From 1974 to 1981. > > The Angry Years >From 1982 to 1988 > > Later Works >From 1991 to present day (but I will accept a cut-off > point at 1997) And marks a return to the acoustic > instrument, a broadening of themes, a return to love.> I had been thinking in terms of 3, but you're right, '91 does bring in a new, final it seems, era. I love all 4, but I'm definetly a "second era" person. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:31:47 -0500 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: Re: Four Ages Of Joni MItchell? On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 16:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Bob Muller wrote: > And isn't it funny that Joni's "Angry Years" period were >when she was supposedly living in wedded bliss with Mr. >Klein? I guess you can read into that what you will. Perhaps having that relationship made her turn her attention to other matters? Clearly, the Reagan administration contributed to that 80s "anger". Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #226 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)