From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #211 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, July 25 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 211 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject: New Library addition: 'Joni Mitchell Interview' [LCStanley7@aol.] Re: Better to light a candle... ["Michael Flaherty" ] Richard Digance and Joni [Gertus@aol.com] Canadian Readers' Digest Rad ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? [mags h ] Re: Canadian Readers' Digest Rad [Catherine McKay ] Dame Joni ["Paul Headon" ] Metaphor 300: What does the Lily represent? 100% JC (cloaked) ["Jim L'Ho] RE: Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? ["Ji] RE: Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? [mag] RE: Woo-hoo! Jonibashing in Canada's Reader's Digest website, now on roberto h [Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Better to light a candle... > On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 05:23:21 +0000 > littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: >> Hey, all, >> >> Does anyone know if Joni ever considered, say, starting >>her *own* label (possibly with Klein)? [...] I suppose >>I'm >>being naive... Not really. Other artists have done it, and she COULD, but it would take a huge amount of time and effort. My guess is she'd rather paint. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:47:22 EDT From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Richard Digance and Joni I bought a lovely book from E-bay this week called "A Gathering of Folk" which is a collection of photographs of, mainly but not entirely, ageing folk singers, sold in aid of charity. Each photograph is accompanied by a resume of the singer's career and I was particularly interested to read about Richard Digance, a singer whose song writing and intricate guitar work I very much enjoyed in the London folk clubs of the early 70s before he concentrated on becoming a fairly well known comedian and TV star in the UK. Here's what was written, apparently lifted from his web site:- Through perseverance and determination, Richard worked his way up through the entertainment industry, starting as a writer for the BBC and eventually becoming one of Britain's top television entertainers throughout the 1980's, culminating in a series of his own one-hour specials, that ran on London Weekend Television for a record eleven years He also recorded various programmes for BBC Radio 2, over a period of fifteen years, before joining London's Capital Radio, first as a music presenter and then as a disc jockey. Richard remained at Capital for nearly five years where he specialised in in-depth interviews with artists such as Joni Mitchell, Arlo Guthrie and Roy Orbison before eventually leaving to return to the stage as a support act and guitar player to top comedian, Jim Davidson. So the question is - does anyone remember this in depth interview or have a copy of it? It would make interesting reading as would all those interviews. It seems Digance worked for Capitol for 5 years in the early 90s. Does Capital Radio exist any more? Regards, Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:02:47 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Canadian Readers' Digest Rad I finally found enough time to read the rant attributed to Roberto Hollister. My first thought is that someone else was using his name. I have exchanged about 10 words with Roberto but he seemed to be reserved, polite, quiet, and maybe even humble. I'd be surprised if he wrote this. Judging from the context that the initial question gives, maybe the tradition is to wrtite something inflamatory (perhaps facetiously) in order to start "a good dinner-table fight". This is a challenge to start a high-spirited conversation, not to destroy, smear, or defame. I don't think Mr. Hollister actually believes these words. Maybe he intended to start a wave of fan letters to get our Joan some good press. Or am I naive? Jim L'Hommedieu, solving the world's problems over Sunday coffee >> < start a good dinner-table fight? > > Date: June 25, 2005 > Name: Robert Holliston > > Comments: > I would like to challenge the belief that Joni Mitchell is now anything more > than a deluded, self-absorbed megalomaniac. If only she would be content for > us to admire her songs! But in interview after interview she insists that we > must be purified ten times over in the cleansing fire of her genius. Alas, > her songs don't stand up to that kind of scrutiny. She boasts - nay, > fetishizes - about her originality, but there is nothing in her music that > would have baffled Guillaume de Machaut (c. 1300-1377), Carlo Gesualdo > (1561-1613) or Claudio Monteverdi (1567 -1643), although much of it might > have bored them. As a wordsmith, she has never approached Cole Porter, > Stephen Sondheim or hosts of others, dating back to the 12th-century > troubadours. Now she wants us to think of her as a social critic - > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? Lama, I swore I'd never do this again, bite the bait, and here I am. Again. Why this is so important to me to once again challenge your stand on this issue, I really dont know. But challenge you, I must. How can you possibly "know" that Joni is no longer in pain over the years she suffered the loss of her baby girl, just because she's now in reunion? It is one thing for Joni to say that she wrote to somehow assuage the incredible pain of that loss within those deafening silent moments where she had to carry those secrets; and gave voice to them via LIttle Green, Chinese Cafe, etc. . however, I still cannot/willnot/donot believe for one second that Joni is now pain free. This a huge leap for you to take; and I just dont get it; or your persistence thereof. Mags. - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:18:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Canadian Readers' Digest Rad - --- Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > I finally found enough time to read the rant > attributed to Roberto > Hollister. All I really want to know is... what is a rad? E-mail after e-mail has gone back & forth about this and the header reads, "Canadian Readers' Digest Rad." Radiator? Radical? Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:37:21 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: Dame Joni Hi, Does anyone believe as I do that Joni should be made a Dame of the British empire. This is a major major award for members of the "Commonwealth". As a Canadian citizen she is eligible for the award in the same way as Dame Shirley Bassey, Dame Peggy Ashcroft and some other British Artists . This is the female equivalent to the honorary knighthoods given to male artists Bob Geldof (who also is not a British citizen) , Sir Paul McCartney and Sir Elton John and Sir Mick Jagger ( so ther is room for rebels too Ha Ha). As Joni has stopped writing songs now perhaps the time is right to acknowledge her contribution to the arts .. I would be interested in anyone's views. Best wishes, Paul Headon - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.2/53 - Release Date: 20/07/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:04:53 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Metaphor 300: What does the Lily represent? 100% JC (cloaked) If I recall correctly, the central image in Zen Buddhism is a paradox, a lily. It is a floating pond flower which has a very long root that reaches all the way through the water into the Earth at the bottom of the pond. My teacher used some vivid language for it. He said the lily is a transient object of sublime perfection. It draws it's nourishment from the dank corruption of the slime in the darkness. Who wants to take it from here? Sincerely, Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:38:46 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? Mags, You're right. "Pain-free" isn't the right phrase; I've revised. (Not that anyone cares but), I'm now saying ================ >"Joni's secret daughter was revealed to the world in an Associated Press story on March 20, 1997. Perhaps the reunion brought balance to the anguish of giving up her daughter, Kelly/Kilauren. When balance was restored, her anguish-based muse evaporated. Who needs catharsis if you don't have a problem? Joni has often said, I sing my sorrow and I paint my joy. Here is the proof."> ================ I imagine Joni will always reflect on giving up Kelly but the conflict is less strong now than it was. The conflict isn't strong enough anymore to power songwriting, as Joni herself has said (re-quoted below). All the best, Jim In the recent interview, Joni said, >JM: Well, I don't write at all anymore. I quit everything in '97 when my daughter [whom Mitchell gave up for adoption in infancy in 1965-Ed.] came back. Music was something I did to deal with the tremendous disturbance of losing her. It began when she disappeared and ended when she returned. I was probably deeply disturbed emotionally for those 33 years that I had no child to raise, though I put on a brave face. Instead, I mothered the world and looked at the world in which my child was roaming from the point of view of a sociologist.> From: mags h [mailto:magsie_h@yahoo.com] >How can you possibly "know" that Joni is no longer in pain over the years she suffered the loss of her baby girl, just because she's now in reunion? It is one thing for Joni to say that she wrote to somehow assuage the incredible pain of that loss within those deafening silent moments where she had to carry those secrets; and gave voice to them via LIttle Green, Chinese Cafe, etc. . however, I still cannot/willnot/donot believe for one second that Joni is now pain free. This a huge leap for you to take; and I just dont get it; or your persistence thereof.> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:13:05 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell free of pain now that she's found LIttle Green ?? hey Jim, no worries. "If only" it was so easy, in the aftershock, to be free of that pain . If only. Yea, Im sure the brunt isnt nearly as bad, perhaps...(one can only hope that for her, as well as for Kilauren). I appreciate and DO care that you have revisited this issue, time and time again. For tonnes of reasons. Believe me, I dont want to be "right", that's not what this is about anyway. which segues nicely into a question for all of you songwriters out there.... what moves you to write a song? (I guess the answers will now be NJC?) in peace, Mags Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: Mags, You're right. "Pain-free" isn't the right phrase; I've revised. (Not that anyone cares but), I'm now saying ================ >"Joni's secret daughter was revealed to the world in an Associated Press story on March 20, 1997. Perhaps the reunion brought balance to the anguish of giving up her daughter, Kelly/Kilauren. When balance was restored, her anguish-based muse evaporated. Who needs catharsis if you don't have a problem? Joni has often said, I sing my sorrow and I paint my joy. Here is the proof."> ================ I imagine Joni will always reflect on giving up Kelly but the conflict is less strong now than it was. The conflict isn't strong enough anymore to power songwriting, as Joni herself has said (re-quoted below). All the best, Jim In the recent interview, Joni said, >JM: Well, I don't write at all anymore. I quit everything in '97 when my daughter [whom Mitchell gave up for adoption in infancy in 1965-Ed.] came back. Music was something I did to deal with the tremendous disturbance of losing her. It began when she disappeared and ended when she returned. I was probably deeply disturbed emotionally for those 33 years that I had no child to raise, though I put on a brave face. Instead, I mothered the world and looked at the world in which my child was roaming from the point of view of a sociologist.> From: mags h [mailto:magsie_h@yahoo.com] >How can you possibly "know" that Joni is no longer in pain over the years she suffered the loss of her baby girl, just because she's now in reunion? It is one thing for Joni to say that she wrote to somehow assuage the incredible pain of that loss within those deafening silent moments where she had to carry those secrets; and gave voice to them via LIttle Green, Chinese Cafe, etc. . however, I still cannot/willnot/donot believe for one second that Joni is now pain free. This a huge leap for you to take; and I just dont get it; or your persistence thereof.> - --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:25:10 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: RE: Woo-hoo! Jonibashing in Canada's Reader's Digest website, now on roberto h here here! However, just to point out... Joni never sampled the cigarette machine... she was 'playing it' - she had a stack of coins and had a microphone wired all the out to the parking lot where the machine was and it was 'played' and recorded live. Yeah, she overdubbed her voice and his bass onto but it wasn't sampled or looped... it ends when she ran ot of coin... the truth is out there ;-) Much Joni Zoob mia ortlieb wrote: Joni can rail about the music industry cesspool all she wants - doesn't bother me in the least. I've come to the realization after reading tons of interviews that Joni speaks in tones of generalizations. And as for "Empty, Try Another," which somehow got lumped in with "social anthems," - what a great exercise in the creative process. Sampling a cigarette machine! That's pure genius! - --------------------------------- How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos. Get Yahoo! Photos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Metaphor 300: What does the Lily represent? 100% JC (cloaked) I guess the only part that bothers me about that image - your last sentence, is the use of the word "corruption". Thats a really loaded word. Which can be good if you want it to be loaded and infer other things. But slime dirt, earth, fertilizer, sh_t, much, primordial ooze and all that stinky-tho-necessary stuff is really pretty "innocent" tho at times yucky. But if you throw the word "corruption" into the mix, it means more than "broken down/rotten" as in a natural process. For some reason at that point, I start to think whoever wrote that sentence is equating natural funk of the earth with human behavioural "dreck" and spiritual putrescence. But one is innocent and one is not. So to me they are not similar enough to use in the same sentence. I realize there must be some defination of corruption that refers purely to a natural process - to a breakdown of natural materials as a result of the rotting process. But I think the word has taken on so much more baggage. Em ps: so, I have no prob with the lovely lily drawing sustenance from the goop under water that is a first cousin to sh_t, but I *do* have a prob with thinking of it somehow drawing sustenance from human dishonest crap. (corruption) But maybe you could convince me... ;) pps please excuse my spelling.. - --- Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > If I recall correctly, the central image in Zen Buddhism is a > paradox, a > lily. It is a floating pond flower which has a very long root that > reaches > all the way through the water into the Earth at the bottom of the > pond. > > My teacher used some vivid language for it. He said the lily is a > transient > object of sublime perfection. It draws it's nourishment from the > dank > corruption of the slime in the darkness. > > Who wants to take it from here? > > Sincerely, > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:29:22 +0100 From: "John E McGloin" Subject: Re: Richard Digance and Joni Hi A lot of people would disagree about Jim Davidson being a top comedian but.......... Capital Radio still exists but basically is a pop/MOR radio station for London. In it's early days, the programming used to be more radical - they even used to broadcast live jazz (Pat Metheny, Joe Zawinul etc) and hosted a yearly jazz festival but that's all gone. They ran a series of masterclasses which consisted of an inteview about an hour long with a small audience usually and teaturing a few acoustic numbers. One was broadcast with Joni on 29/12/1985. Is this the broadcast in question? Cheers John - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Richard Digance and Joni >I bought a lovely book from E-bay this week called "A Gathering of Folk" > which is a collection of photographs of, mainly but not entirely, ageing > folk > singers, sold in aid of charity. Each photograph is accompanied by a > resume of the > singer's career and I was particularly interested to read about Richard > Digance, a singer whose song writing and intricate guitar work I very much > enjoyed > in the London folk clubs of the early 70s before he concentrated on > becoming a > fairly well known comedian and TV star in the UK. Here's what was written, > apparently lifted from his web site:- > > Through perseverance and determination, Richard worked his way up through > the > entertainment industry, > starting as a writer for the BBC and eventually becoming one of Britain's > top > television entertainers throughout > the 1980's, culminating in a series of his own one-hour specials, that ran > on > London Weekend Television for a > record eleven years > > He also recorded various programmes for BBC Radio 2, over a period of > fifteen > years, before joining > London's Capital Radio, first as a music presenter and then as a disc > jockey. > Richard remained at Capital for > nearly five years where he specialised in in-depth interviews with artists > such as Joni Mitchell, Arlo Guthrie > and Roy Orbison before eventually leaving to return to the stage as a > support > act and guitar player to top > comedian, Jim Davidson. > > So the question is - does anyone remember this in depth interview or have > a > copy of it? > It would make interesting reading as would all those interviews. It seems > Digance worked for Capitol for 5 years in the early 90s. Does Capital > Radio exist > any more? > > Regards, > > Jacky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 19:36:26 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Metaphor 300: What does the Lily represent? 100% JC (cloaked) Yeah, "corruption" really is a loaded word. My teacher used it but I'll defend it. In the context of Philosophy class it meant that "we are spirits in the material world" and aspiring to purity is the best we can hope to achieve in this world. The reason I like "corruption" for this song-as-lily metaphor is because Joni's constantly using the word "cesspool". That's a loaded word too. The lily needs the silt to grow upon. The song needs the Industry to "get the word out", to popularize. (In a video about The Police, Sting's brother said something like they needed a business manager "in order to exploit their strengths properly." He actually used the word "exploit".) If there's no star-maker machinery, there's no second album. There's no hiring Jaco. After "Amelia", there's no Metheny to make "Pat's Solo". It would have just been Joni perpetually playing coffee houses. Or, if Joni's body of work is the lily built upon silt, she used it very, very well. She created some Truth and Beauty out of the silt which would make any Buddhist nod serenely. Sincerely, Jim np: Led Zeppelin IV (Runes, ZOSO) at full volume From: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] I guess the only part that bothers me about that image - your last sentence, is the use of the word "corruption". Thats a really loaded word. Which can be good if you want it to be loaded and infer other things. But slime dirt, earth, fertilizer, sh_t, much, primordial ooze and all that stinky-tho-necessary stuff is really pretty "innocent" tho at times yucky. But if you throw the word "corruption" into the mix, it means more than "broken down/rotten" as in a natural process. For some reason at that point, I start to think whoever wrote that sentence is equating natural funk of the earth with human behavioural "dreck" and spiritual putrescence. But one is innocent and one is not. So to me they are not similar enough to use in the same sentence. I realize there must be some defination of corruption that refers purely to a natural process - to a breakdown of natural materials as a result of the rotting process. But I think the word has taken on so much more baggage. Em ps: so, I have no prob with the lovely lily drawing sustenance from the goop under water that is a first cousin to sh_t, but I *do* have a prob with thinking of it somehow drawing sustenance from human dishonest crap. (corruption) But maybe you could convince me... ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 23:42:06 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: C'e finzione fantastico italiano? Bryan asked: Has there ever even been an Italian sci-fi movie? LOL. Good point. I'm not sure whether the genre exists (it must, mustn't it?) either, but I thought john was expressing impressionistically his astonishment at the weirdness of the music to his ear -- sounding like it had come from the love child of a European and a Martian, perhaps? Ciao, W [referring to:] littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: Hi guys, Jamie reported: > This reminds me of the first time I played DJRD for my first hubby, John, and as Overture/Cotton Avenue started up, he stood still, frowned, and asked me, "What the hell is that -- the soundtrack to an Italian Sci Fi Movie?" I converted him -- we're still great friends, and he now owns several Jonis, including DJRD. - --Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: Metaphor 300: What does the Lily represent? 100% JC (cloaked) I'm such a jerk..I coulda lived without the Jaco or Metheny quite nicely. LOL! anyway, about the rest of what you said..the *real* part we were talking about, I'm drawing a blank now cuz I am buzzoley...will look forward to others' comments too. Em < wrote: > Yeah, "corruption" really is a loaded word. My teacher used it but > I'll > defend it. In the context of Philosophy class it meant that "we are > spirits > in the material world" and aspiring to purity is the best we can hope > to > achieve in this world. > > The reason I like "corruption" for this song-as-lily metaphor is > because > Joni's constantly using the word "cesspool". That's a loaded word > too. > > The lily needs the silt to grow upon. The song needs the Industry to > "get > the word out", to popularize. (In a video about The Police, Sting's > brother > said something like they needed a business manager "in order to > exploit > their strengths properly." He actually used the word "exploit".) > > If there's no star-maker machinery, there's no second album. There's > no > hiring Jaco. After "Amelia", there's no Metheny to make "Pat's > Solo". It > would have just been Joni perpetually playing coffee houses. > > Or, if Joni's body of work is the lily built upon silt, she used it > very, > very well. She created some Truth and Beauty out of the silt which > would > make any Buddhist nod serenely. > > Sincerely, > Jim > np: Led Zeppelin IV (Runes, ZOSO) at full volume > > From: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] > I guess the only part that bothers me about that image - your last > sentence, is the use of the word "corruption". Thats a really loaded > word. Which can be good if you want it to be loaded and infer other > things. But slime dirt, earth, fertilizer, sh_t, much, primordial > ooze > and all that stinky-tho-necessary stuff is really pretty "innocent" > tho > at times yucky. But if you throw the word "corruption" into the mix, > it > means more than "broken down/rotten" as in a natural process. For > some > reason at that point, I start to think whoever wrote that sentence is > equating natural funk of the earth with human behavioural "dreck" and > spiritual putrescence. > But one is innocent and one is not. So to me they are not similar > enough to use in the same sentence. > I realize there must be some defination of corruption that refers > purely to a natural process - to a breakdown of natural materials as > a > result of the rotting process. But I think the word has taken on so > much more baggage. > Em > ps: so, I have no prob with the lovely lily drawing sustenance from > the > goop under water that is a first cousin to sh_t, but I *do* have a > prob > with thinking of it somehow drawing sustenance from human dishonest > crap. (corruption) But maybe you could convince me... ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:56:59 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: C'e finzione fantastico italiano? <> Il director, si -- ma un *film* di finzione fantastico? Non lo so. Non ne connoscio uno. I guess what we're looking for is a science-finction movie which appeared in its *original* form in Italian, not that I'm losing sleep over it... What the hey, I'm obviously not very busy -- I'll see what I can google up... Ciao di nuovo, Walt "Verde Piccolo" (which does not mean green pickle) - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > hellraiser three was directed by an italian i think. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:42 PM > Subject: C'e finzione fantastico italiano? > > > > Bryan asked: > > > > Has there ever even been an Italian sci-fi movie? > > > > LOL. Good point. I'm not sure whether the genre exists (it must, mustn't > > it?) either, but I thought john was expressing impressionistically his > > astonishment at the weirdness of the music to his ear -- sounding like it > > had come from the love child of a European and a Martian, perhaps? > > > > Ciao, W > > > > [referring to:] > > > > littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > > > > Hi guys, Jamie reported: > > > > > cooking > > in the kitchen and the rest of my flatmates came in... so I was cooking > > away and > > one of them said,'My God, what is this music, it's so porn! It's like I'm > > watching Channel 5 late night softcore... I keep on expecting women with > > big > > hair to come in and start fondling each other for no good reason...'>> > > > > This reminds me of the first time I played DJRD for my first hubby, John, > > and as Overture/Cotton Avenue started up, he stood still, frowned, and > > asked me, "What the hell is that -- the soundtrack to an Italian Sci Fi > > Movie?" I converted him -- we're still great friends, and he now owns > > several Jonis, including DJRD. > > > > --Walt > > Let the walls go tumbling down > > Falling on the ground > > And all the dogs go running free > > The wild and gentle dogs > > Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:21:32 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: A place where Overture/Cotton Avenue would sound fitting, soundtrack-wise... Okay, here's a whole Italian film festival devoted to the science fiction/horror genre. if anyone cares. Who knew? What with all the good films about sex and food... Oh wait, then there's Sergio lenoe and the Spaghetti westerns, which I guess is about food and violence... A propos, there's a Simpson's repeat tonight in which Lisa complains that a Kosovan movie she's dragged the family to has "gone commercial" 'cuz it has subtitles... What were we talking about? Anyway, here's the link: -- <> Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #211 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)