From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #156 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, May 30 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 156 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- [none] [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? [WirlyPearl@aol.co] Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? [Bob Muller ] Dog Eat Dog acoustic? ["rex and the city ." ] Re: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? [Randy Remote ] GitV? (Girls in the Valley?) [jrmco1@aol.com] Re: Linguistic triplets and viscious nuns. [littlebreen@comcast.net] Jonifest ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? ["Suze Cameron] Re: Casting sessions for the film of Joni's life... ["Suze Cameron" Subject: [none] Yes, if you have C&S and FTR, I would recommend The Hissing of Summer Lawns next. Then Hejira, Blue, Ladies of The Canyon and Song To a Seagull in that order. Welcome. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:29:17 EDT From: WirlyPearl@aol.com Subject: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? Hey everyone, This past Wednesday morning, the day that the winner of American Idol would be announced Katie Couric on the Today show had a little panel discussion about the phenomenon of American Idol. The panel included Joe Levy - a Managing Editor of Rolling Stone, Bobby Colomby - a music producer and former member of a famous group (can't remember which) and Lola Ogunnuke - Cultural Reporter for the NY Times. Here is a portion of their discussion. I was so excited that of all the singers that could have been mentioned, Katie chose you know who! I was very proud of her for that. Katie - "Lets talk about some of the great artists of our generation... You think about people like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Joni Mitchell...They would not make the first cut on this show, right Joe?" Joe - "Not Dylan, not Springsteen, Joni Mitchell might. She has a beautiful voice and she was extremely, extremely beautiful when she started and that's the truth. Dylan and Springsteen are odd talents and when you hear these guys at first, you are kinda like....is the stereo working?? And you know, in the '60's they wouldn't have made it on the Ted Mack Amateur Hour. Absolutely not." Katie - "And this show doesn't promote or introduce singer/ songwriters at all, right?" Bobby - "It's a Saturday Night Live skit...Dylan auditioning for American Idol.. (Me now...I think this would be hysterical) This is a vocalist contest and about charisma. It has little to do with the music." Lola - "It's definitely about being able to hit the high note and hold it forever. Just thought I'd share this. I thought it was great that Katie chose Joni as one of the great artists of our generation and thrilled that someone from Rolling Stone had such effusive things to say about her. Rolling Stone has not always been so kind to Joni. I'd really love to see a SNL skit with some famous singers like Dylan and see what the judges would say. Who would you like to see compete in that? Pearl in Hollywood, FL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 05:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Member/ What Next Album To Choose? Hi Jo - you've already gotten plenty of good recommendations - I thought Songs Of A Prairie Girl was a particularly inspired selection - it's a retrospective compilation, so if you intend to buy all of her albums eventually you might not want to go that route, but it is an interesting collection. I'll put in a word for Hejira, my favorite album by anyone ever. Welcome to the JMDL. Bob NP: Peter Gabriel, "Solsbury Hill" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Sheryl Crow Joni cover Hi Sean, welcome to the JMDL and thanks for a great first post. As the collector and database manager of Jonicovers I'm always glad to hear of new ones coming out. Hey, as long as Sheryl doesn't do "Both Sides Now" I'm happy! 414 (at last count) is plenty. I've already added Sheryl's cover to our list: http://www.jmdl.com/undercover/ And stay tuned as I'll be announcing Volume 65 in a couple of days. Bob NP: Sam Phillips, "All Night" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:05:59 -0400 From: "rex and the city ." Subject: Dog Eat Dog acoustic? Hey everyone, I just finished watching the 'Woman Of Heart And Mind' DVD and I was struck by the clip of Joni on stage playing 'Dog Eat Dog' with just a piano for accompaniment...I thought it really brought out the lyrical bite and message of the song more directly than the album version. Can anyone tell me where that performance is from, if it's available in full view anywhere, if there's an audio file or CD version of it or a similar version, available somewhere? I would love to hear/own a full acoustic piano version of that song. :-) rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 13:04:05 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? WirlyPearl@aol.com wrote:Katie - "Lets talk about some of the great artists of our generation... > You think about people like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, > Joni Mitchell...They would not make the first cut on this > show, right Joe?" > > Bobby - "It's a Saturday Night Live skit...Dylan auditioning for > American Idol.. > I'd really love to see a SNL skit with some famous singers like > Dylan and see what the judges would say. Who would you like to > see compete in that? Rod Stewart. Lucinda Williams. Lou Reed. Frank Zappa. Buffy Ste. Marie. Janis Joplin. Mick Jagger. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:02:56 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: GitV? (Girls in the Valley?) This one is news to me. Does anyone have it? http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/joni_mitchell/685153/album.jhtml Thanks. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:59:13 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: Linguistic triplets and viscious nuns. Hi, fellow Triplets and jmdlers, <> God, Patti, what a masterpiece -- and for those who for whatever reason hate to watch movies with subtitles, relax, there's virtually no spoken word in this gem, and it truly is inventive and funny, heroic even. Best animated feature I've seen in a long time, and I see them all. <> My parents used to compete as to which of them had been exposed to more viscious nuns growing up in the '30's in RI -- my Irish father or my French-Canadian mother. I think the Irish nuns won on the basis of pointless corporeal abuse, but the French were rather more inventive in terms of psychological torture. My mother's older sister, who got caught speaking English once (it was a French-only school), had to wear hanging around her neck for a week a sign saying something to the effect that she was an idiot or some such. Lovely. My aunt Patty made it all the way through to 8th grade, but my mom, who is quite formidable but easily wounded, was out of there before 2nd or 3rd grade. Merci a dieux. (I just finished an article in Scientific America's May issue called "When Medicine Meets Literature" profiling a wonderful woman named Rita Charon who is a pioneer in terms of helping doctors and nurses learn to really listen to patients -- go, Rita!, as any of us who has been seriously ill would say -- anyway, in a profile below her picture, it says she was "raised in a Providence, RI, community of transplanted French Canadians with a 'densely dark' and 'particularly punitive' form of Catholicism..." Ring a belleville, anyone? Il fault rire.) One last note about French Canadians and nuns: my best bud, the endlessly talented Stephan, who grew up in Montreal and spent some time in parochial schools there, was asked to build a life-sized puppet of a nun for a local theatrical production; he just finished it about a week ago, and it was a beauty -- face (of foam rubber) scrunched up in rage, a rosary clenched in the non-mobile hand, a ruler in the mobile hand ready to slug a kid for some minor infraction. Her name is Sister Marie Inviolata of the Seven Wounds. Best to all, Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > Anne wrote: > > "Well, Walt and Patti, > > I guess we're triplets!!!!" > > Well, then I guess we're The Triplets of Joniville! (Has anyone seen the > French animated film The Triplets of Belleville?) > > How cool! But I think that soon we'll be quadruplets and quintuplets and > sextuplets (Smurf will be the sexth, I daresay!) and you KNOW there may be > more! ; ) > > I loved your childhood memories, Anne. I had almost forgotten the Singing > Nun! That brings me to another one of my memories, involving French and > nuns and, presciently, Joni, naturellement. In 6th grade I used to wear a > beret to school. No one else did but I didn't care because I knew French > was cool! (Maybe it was prescient of the Hejira LP cover? Yes, that must > be it! lol.....) (Pour vous, Monsieur LittleBreen: Prescient is French, > from Old French, from Latin praescins, praescient- present participle of > praescre, to know beforehand : prae-, pre- + scre, to know; see skei- in > Indo-European Roots, but you knew that, bien sur!) Anyway, back to my > little schoolgirl BLUE beret. One day at recess a bunch of boys grabbed it > and started playing frisbee with it. Sister Mary Loyola caught them and boy > did they get in trouble! (Poor guys, they were only having fun.) > > And thanks, Walt. You taught me a new word: concatenatation. Life is for > learning on the JMDL! > > (NO WONDER I have JMOCD! Those songs are tattooed on > the pillows of my wanderlust!>> > > God, Patti, that's a wonderful concatenation/combination of two of her most > vivd > lines!!!) > > And back to you, Anne....everything seems like it is coming up (for the) > roses for you lately. First, the Red Sox finally win at all, and then you > get your premier voyage to Paris? Ooh la la! I am happy for you! > > And back to French, if I may, does anyone remember that hot breathy panting > song from the 70's (I think), "Je t'aime?" > > Bisous, > > Patti Labelle, Triplet de Joniville ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 02:01:00 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Jonifest A list of Jonifest attendees has been posted on: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NortheastJonifest/ Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:45:44 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? Hi Pearl!!! Thanks for posting this. I don't get to catch much on tv so I always appreciate when folks pass along Joni mentions. As far as who I would like to see on A.I....I would enjoy hearing what Simon would have to say about Bjork, or Elvis Costello, or the Sex Pistols, or Iggy Pop. Of course, I don't watch the show, but both my girls at University plan their lives around it. It amazes me, this whole reality tv craze. Whatever happened to writers and actors....??? Speaking of which, Jamie!!! Congrats! Send a copy of your promo back to the states with Bob or Jody or Ashara, I would love to see a morph of Jack/Jamie! Suze n.p., Pistons losing to Pearl's Heat :-( - ----- Original Message ----- From: WirlyPearl@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Dylan, Springsteen and Joni Mitchell on American Idol? Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 06:29:17 EDT > > Hey everyone, > This past Wednesday morning, the day that the winner of American > Idol would be announced Katie Couric on the Today show had a > little panel discussion about the phenomenon of American Idol. > The panel included Joe Levy - a Managing Editor of Rolling Stone, > Bobby Colomby - a music producer and former member of a famous > group (can't remember which) and Lola Ogunnuke - Cultural Reporter for the > NY Times. > > Here is a portion of their discussion. I was so excited that of > all the singers that could have been mentioned, Katie chose > you know who! I was very proud of her for that. > > Katie - "Lets talk about some of the great artists of our generation... > You think about people like Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, > Joni Mitchell...They would not make the first cut on this > show, right Joe?" > Joe - "Not Dylan, not Springsteen, Joni Mitchell might. She has a > beautiful voice and she was extremely, extremely beautiful > when she started and that's the truth. Dylan and Springsteen > are odd talents and when you hear these guys at first, you are > kinda like....is the stereo working?? And you know, in the > '60's > they wouldn't have made it on the Ted Mack Amateur Hour. > Absolutely not." > Katie - "And this show doesn't promote or introduce singer/ > songwriters at all, right?" > Bobby - "It's a Saturday Night Live skit...Dylan auditioning for > American Idol.. (Me now...I think this would be hysterical) > This is a vocalist contest and about charisma. It has little > to do with the music." > Lola - "It's definitely about being able to hit the high note and > hold it forever. > > Just thought I'd share this. I thought it was great that Katie > chose Joni as one of the great artists of our generation and thrilled > that someone from Rolling Stone had such effusive things to say > about her. Rolling Stone has not always been so kind to Joni. > I'd really love to see a SNL skit with some famous singers like > Dylan and see what the judges would say. Who would you like to > see compete in that? > > Pearl in Hollywood, FL - -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:04:11 -0500 From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: Casting sessions for the film of Joni's life... Jumping on this thread WAY late, but there was an American tv show in the 80s called the Wonder Years, and the daughter was this hippy type who I thought looked a lot like Joni. Olivia D'Abo? Was that her? I think she's English. Is she the one I am thinking of??? Suze - ----- Original Message ----- From: atel79@dsl.pipex.com To: "Mark-Leon Thorne" Subject: Casting sessions for the film of Joni's life... Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:22:05 +0100 > > Quoting Mark-Leon Thorne : > > << Who would play the people she associated with? Like, David Crosby and > Graham Nash. Larry Klein and Jaco Pastorious.>> > > How about Wilford Brimley for Crosby?? OK, he's getting on a bit, but he has > that avuncular walrus thang going on. For Graham Nash, I'm > thinking Hugh Grant > (if he can do the Manchester accent). Jaco would have to be Steve Buscemi. > Larry I'm struggling with, any suggestion? > > What about James Taylor? It would have to be a very beautiful man with a lot > of charisma and preferably some musical talent: Viggo Mortensen? > > I think of the actresses who have been mentioned so far, the ones > who have some > small resemblance to Joni are Deborah Kara Unger and Mariel Hemingway. It may > be sacriligious to suggest it (I think someone already has), but Jewel might > also be a good choice, in that, firstly, she knows one end of a > guitar from the > other, and secondly, she can actually act, as anyone who has seen > Ride With The > Devil will know. > > Azeem in London - -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. 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