From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #143 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 17 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 143 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Chuck D (and Joni content) [revrvl@comcast.net (vince)] lyrics to "Conversation" ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Joni remasters ["Martin Giles" ] Re: lyrics to "Conversation" [Catherine McKay ] Re: lyrics to "Conversation" [Smurf ] Holly Near, Tea Leaf ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Holly Near, Tea Leaf ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Fearless Women and celibate Joni [Deb Messling ] Joni cover on the latest Coverville & Radio Paradise [Bob Muller ] Re: Chuck D [vince ] Re: Chuck D [jrmco1@aol.com] Q2Q in Saskatoon? [jrmco1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:19:42 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Chuck D (and Joni content) I am cheating with Chuck D on this to the Joni onlies but I have had the extreme honor listening to the Commonwealth Club's recent (May 13th?) session with Chuck D. It is an amazing hour of insights into music, the citizen in the world, global responsibilities, and so much more. I have heard it twice and just very high;y recommend that anyone with any concerns for the world check it out. http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/index.html The Joni content is that her recent visit with the Commonwealth Club has not been broadcast to my knowledge or archived but we can all keep checking. But do, please do, take the opportunity to listen to Chuck D. I heard it on Saturday morning on my local western Michigan NPR station, and got really lucky and heard it again on Chicago's WBEZ on Sunday coming home from a quick trip to Chicago. It is one of the most insightful conversations that I have ever had the opportunity to hear. Those in the music biz will find his comments on the industry most interesting. Beyond that, he speaks of the role that each individual of this country has in a global community, and he speaks with the most rare insights, I feel blessed to have heard this. Vince - -- http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:30:15 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: lyrics to "Conversation" Thank you for the explanation and elaboration, Gary! Life is for learning more and more about Joni! I saw some of those lyrics in the database, and I PARTICULARLY love these: "Now is the wrong time But maybe if a dozen days are warm and right You'll hear him say "I've wanted you baby for such a long time" God, doesn't that just perfectly capture "what a wonderful world it would be" if your unrequited love someday came out w/ THOSE lines? (Has anyone here ever suffered from unrequited love? Huh????) Talk about a Dreamland! Joni just nails it once again. And Em, I gotta tell you, babe, how much you crack me up! The way you said: "Let's not do that" (when I jokingly threatened to "blow my freakin' brains out" on your small white bed)....... I had a picture in my mind of a trouble child (in kindergarten, maybe) with a kind and wise and experienced teacher. Maybe the kid is throwing a tantrum or pencils or something and the teacher gently takes his/her hand and says: "Let's not do that, okay?" Never lose your free-stylin' spontaneous wit...you stand out like a ruby on this list! Joyful Julius -&-Joni-in-the-elevator-type hugs to all, Patti, in Morning UConn Town, wondering how I will find Boopsie today. Maybe she'll pop in singing Chelsea Morning, huh Bree? Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:59:20 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: fruits and cheeses Hi Patti, Interestingly, I believe that "grapes and cheeses" was part of Joni's original lyrics to "Conversation" also called "He Comes For Conversation" and she sings them on a version of the song contained on "The Second Fret" CD. It's a very early rendition, and also includes a great third and final verse, which was omitted from the version on "Ladies of the Canyon." Even a line of these lyrics taken from the JMDL pages, don't match exactly what she sings on the disc. In parentheses (on one line) are the lyrics she sings on the "Second Fret" CD: (As sung at the 2nd fret on Oct 12, 1967:) He's acted down all evening Maybe it's over now Maybe she's finally leaving I'd like to show her now But friends are friends forever So hard to change their role Laugh with him, cry together A friend feels so old (Hey friend, it feels so whole) But you keep your feelings deep inside You talk of them and think of pride Now is the wrong time But maybe if a dozen days are warm and right You'll hear him say "I've wanted you baby for such a long time" So here are even more lyrics for you to explore and have fun with! I enjoy your posts!! Best regards, Gary (who loves early Joni, and all Joni, of course!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:03:18 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: Joni remasters Hi Laurent In addition to the albums Randy mentioned, I would add the HDCD version of 'HOSL'. I'd only heard the standard version of it and was thinking of 're-mastering' it for myself, until I heard the HDCD version which is a huge improvement. Martin. > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:55:59 +0200 > From: "Laurent Olszer" > Subject: Joni remasters > > Hi All > > This has been discussed before but I'm trying to get a summary about the > quality of Joni remastered cds. > The question is: which ones are real and not just subtle improvements over the > originals? > This applies to the individual remasters as well as the Geffen box. > Help please. > > Laurent > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:42:48 -0700 > From: Randy Remote > Subject: Re: Joni remasters > > The HDCD versions are remastered. The ones with significant > improvement are Court & Spark and STAS. These will say > HDCD somewhere on the back of the CD case. > The gold CD issue of Blue is the best (out of print). > The Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab WTRF is the best (out of print). > (Find them on ebay). > DED in the Geffen box reportedly much improved. > The recent compilations are remastered, too-but may not sound much > different. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:52:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: lyrics to "Conversation" - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > I saw some of those lyrics in the database, and I > PARTICULARLY love these: > > "Now is the wrong time > But maybe if a dozen days are warm and right > You'll hear him say "I've wanted you baby for such a > long time" > > God, doesn't that just perfectly capture "what a > wonderful world it would > be" if your unrequited love someday came out w/ > THOSE lines? (Has anyone > here ever suffered from unrequited love? Huh????) Constantly, baby. That's what makes me so bitter... and so sweet. C'est l'histoire de ma vie. It's also the reason why I have cats. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:25:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: lyrics to "Conversation" About suffering from unrequited love, Catherine wrote: Constantly, baby. That's what makes me so bitter... and so sweet. C'est l'histoire de ma vie. It's also the reason why I have cats. And may I suggest, dear Catherine, that the cats may be the reason for the unrequited love... XO, - --Smurf "Who do you think you are... Kitty Wells?" --Myrtle Anderson Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:21:18 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: Holly Near, Tea Leaf As I said, I went to the Holly Near concert last week. . . For those of you who may not know her she is a feminist, human rights singer. . I recommend her. She is terrific. Holly Near and Cris Williamson did a beautiful job (as many of you know) covering Joni's Tea Leaf Phrophesy. There is a lot to say about Holly Near. . . Her voice is full and beautiful. . as I was sitting there listening to her I felt as if I was transported into the 30's and 40's. . her voice is just so classic. . . She sang that Gerswyn (sp?) love song. . can't remember it, darn it, about "in a year I will love you." (You know the song). As she was singing, I could imagine a large full, cream colored flower. . . . .. that is what her voice conjured up for me. Anywho. . . when she was speaking about the album that she produced with Cris Williamson, I yelled out "Tea Leaf Phrophecy." and I got her to say the JM word to a crowd of 4- 500. She said something like, "That's a beautiful song by Joni Mitchell." (speaking of Tea Leaf Prophesy) she also alluded to not being able to sing it without Cris Williamson. . that, it was more Cris on that song or something. Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Holly Near, Tea Leaf Marianne Rizzo said: > As I said, I went to the Holly Near concert last week. . . > > For those of you who may not know her she is a feminist, human rights > singer. . I recommend her. She is terrific. How lucky, Marianne. I have been a Holly Near fan for many years and got to see her sing with Cris (her partner) last year and they sand Tea Leaf Prophecy live. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:37:42 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Fearless Women and celibate Joni I was looking through that book Fearless Women (photos of celebrity women with swords). According to recent stories in the tabloids, this book says that Joni is now celibate because she will never find a lover as good as James Taylor. Well, there's nothing mentioned to that effect in the rather pedestrian entry on Joni. I'm wondering whether Joni made some casual remarks to the editor, Nancy Alspaugh, and she used them for her own publicity purposes. Not very nice, IMO, although Joni should know by now not to make casual remarks to journalists. Weird coincidence: in the same book, I came upon a picture of a woman I went to high school with! I vaguely knew she had become an author and actress but didn't know she was famous enough to be a sword-woman. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni cover on the latest Coverville & Radio Paradise http://www.coverville.com/ I just love this guy's Podcasts...the latest one contains Maire Brennan's cover of BYT. In other awesome web-related news, Rolling Stone recommended this internet-only radio station: http://www.radioparadise.com/ And it IS pretty awesome. I'll bet their playlist would suit a lot of folks here. It's real easy to set up too. No ads, and a DJ comes on about once an hour to announce a couple of songs - that's it. Their playlist tells you what's playing if you're curious. They currently have 47 Joni tracks on their playlist - but I haven't heard any Joni on there yet....then again I've only been listening since Thursday. Anyway, if you're looking for some cool free tunes, the SCJoniguy says check it out. Bob NP: John Mayall, "Nature's Disappearing" - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni on RP I spoke too soon..."Let The Wind Carry Me" is on Radio Paradise now. Bob NP: Duh... - --------------------------------- Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news & more. Check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:08:05 -0400 From: vince Subject: Re: Chuck D I wouldn't mind if one person took my suggestion seriously and listened to the Chuck D interview and posted that she/he had and thought it was worth listening to, or that it wasn't, something, someone giving it a chance. You'd learn a little about rap but you'd hear this extraordinary literate wide ranging conversation on so many things. I am off the internet for the evening, sad that my excitement conveyed no motivation to anyone to check it out. There seems so little that I post of meaning. I had hoped this would mean to others what it meant to me. It was a gift of love to this community. Vince vince wrote: >I am cheating with Chuck D on this to the Joni onlies but I have had the extreme honor listening to the Commonwealth Club's recent (May 13th?) session with Chuck D. It is an amazing hour of insights into music, the citizen in the world, global responsibilities, and so much more. I have heard it twice and just very high;y recommend that anyone with any concerns for the world check it out. > >http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/index.html > >The Joni content is that her recent visit with the Commonwealth Club has not been broadcast to my knowledge or archived but we can all keep checking. > >But do, please do, take the opportunity to listen to Chuck D. I heard it on Saturday morning on my local western Michigan NPR station, and got really lucky and heard it again on Chicago's WBEZ on Sunday coming home from a quick trip to Chicago. It is one of the most insightful conversations that I have ever had the opportunity to hear. Those in the music biz will find his comments on the industry most interesting. Beyond that, he speaks of the role that each individual of this country has in a global community, and he speaks with the most rare insights, I feel blessed to have heard this. > >Vince >-- >http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:32:07 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: Chuck D I intend to listen to it in its entirety, Vincent. Right after I read this Sunday's NY Times, Sunday SF Chronicle and a new Medscape treatise on kidney/pancreas transplantation. Just you and Chuck D. chill for a few, my brother, will you? I'll get to it. Really. On the square. Keep the faith. - -Julius - -----Original Message----- From: vince Cc: joni@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 16 May 2005 20:08:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Chuck D I wouldn't mind if one person took my suggestion seriously and listened to the Chuck D interview and posted that she/he had and thought it was worth listening to, or that it wasn't, something, someone giving it a chance. You'd learn a little about rap but you'd hear this extraordinary literate wide ranging conversation on so many things. I am off the internet for the evening, sad that my excitement conveyed no motivation to anyone to check it out. There seems so little that I post of meaning. I had hoped this would mean to others what it meant to me. It was a gift of love to this community. Vince vince wrote: >I am cheating with Chuck D on this to the Joni onlies but I have had the extreme honor listening to the Commonwealth Club's recent (May 13th?) session with Chuck D. It is an amazing hour of insights into music, the citizen in the world, global responsibilities, and so much more. I have heard it twice and just very high;y recommend that anyone with any concerns for the world check it out. > >http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/index.html > >The Joni content is that her recent visit with the Commonwealth Club has not been broadcast to my knowledge or archived but we can all keep checking. > >But do, please do, take the opportunity to listen to Chuck D. I heard it on Saturday morning on my local western Michigan NPR station, and got really lucky and heard it again on Chicago's WBEZ on Sunday coming home from a quick trip to Chicago. It is one of the most insightful conversations that I have ever had the opportunity to hear. Those in the music biz will find his comments on the industry most interesting. Beyond that, he speaks of the role that each individual of this country has in a global community, and he speaks with the most rare insights, I feel blessed to have heard this. > >Vince >-- >http://www.southsiders.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 00:42:45 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Q2Q in Saskatoon? Hey, I just post 'em. Take it from here, Smurf? - -Julius ________ Queen arrives in Regina Tuesday Last Updated May 16 2005 09:33 AM CDT CBC News REGINA b With the Queen's arrival just a day away, it's a whirl of activity in Saskatchewan. A four-day visit to Saskatchewan begins Tuesday Streets are being swept, flowers are being planted, and countless hands are busy getting everything "just so" for the May 17-20 visit. It's a chance to showcase the artistry of Saskatchewan people in many different forms b musical talents like Buffy Sainte Marie and Joni Mitchell, but also writers, painters, sculptors and florists, like Saskatoon's Fred Chlan. Chlan is preparing a garden of flowers for the Queen that will be placed at the Queen's feet at Thursday's Lieutenant-Governor's Centennial Gala in Saskatoon. First Nation's University will be one of the Queen's first stops "We'll be using things like exotic orchids but they'll be woven into natural dogwood or natural willow," Chlan said. "You'll have moss forms and growing forms as if you just walked into a spring garden in Saskatchewan." Chlan said he's striving to hit just the right blend of lavish and dignified. Meanwhile, the work of another celebrated Saskatchewan artist b sculptor Joe Fafard b will also grace the Queen's box seat. At the First Nations University in Regina there will be an art display for the royal visit curated by a rising expert in Indian Fine Arts, Carmen Robertson. The plane carrying Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip arrives at Regina Airport Tuesday afternoon. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #143 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)