From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #138 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 12 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 138 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: PP and now DTY ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Westenra BSN cover [Jerry Notaro ] re: Paprika Plains -- the remix (long) ["c Karma" ] Re: Paprika Plains - the remix (long) [Lori Fye ] easy way for joni to create some new music [w evans ] Re: PP and now DTY [Randy Remote ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:35:36 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: PP and now DTY Hey Randy, That was great. I haven't heard the new PP yet, but I agree with you, it is one of Joni's great works, and one of my favourites now. When the album first came out, I didn't at all enjoy the instrumental interlude. Now I find I like it better, although I enjoy it less than I do the sung part of the work. I was wondering if you would take a listen to the orchestral part of DTY, Joni's other great orchestral outing. To my ears, this was not recorded together in one take, rather it sounds to me like pieces of tape patched together in the mixing booth. For example, I've always found there is an abrupt transition at 2:43 and again at 4:19, when the oboe and clarinet come back near the end (on the regular CD pressing). This was especially audible on the vinyl record. The sound quality seems to vary somewhat from one section to the next, even the piano seems duller at the end of the peice. What do you think? Are these variations in the sound made by the patching together of different takes or recordings ? Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft. SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:11:38 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Westenra BSN cover Very nice. The arrangement is uncluttered, and the violin and guitar are right on. Hayley is very popular here in Florida. It is significant that Joni is so popular with young talent. It ensures her work will survive. Jerry np: Mandy Patinkin - Not a Day Goes By > I stumbled onto this cover of BSN by Kiwi cutie, Hayley Westenra. Probably > old news for many, but for those who haven't seen it, you can watch her > perform this at > > http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/westenra/songlist.html# > > Scroll down to BSN. Hey, it aint Joni, but a fairly decent cover it is. > > Michael in Quebec > dreaming of pianos and paprika plains, and picturing Joni and Renie Flemming > getting giddy on champagne... > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN. Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling > get-togethers. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http: > //hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:24:28 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: re: Paprika Plains -- the remix (long) A NEW pop before "the band plugs in again?" I didn't hear that (I'll have to listen again), but I hope this isn't a new reaction to Jaco's pre-flaps, which have always been audible. Maybe it's added to give that literal association to plugging in. You know that awful electrical noise when someone connects a live wire? Either way, I can feel and see the atmosphere that was likely Nucleus Nuance at this point in the piece every time. This is time travel at its best. CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:30:19 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Paprika Plains - the remix (long) Randy -- if you haven't posted your amazing review of PP to Amazon for the SoaPG page, please do so immediately. And I have to second Jenny's emotion: thanks a lot, now I have to go and buy it! Em, I know you're having trouble getting into PP. For me, it helps a lot that I was living on the prairies of North Dakota when DJRD was released, and because of that experience I so understand what Joni decribes in that song. (Maybe you should ride your bike up to North Dakota in July and attend the reunion I've organized for the Fortuna radar station, http://lrfye.lunarpages.com/fortuna_afs/) It also helps to indulge in a certain herb, imo ... : )~ Lori ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:08:31 -0400 (EDT) From: w evans Subject: easy way for joni to create some new music I'm sure someone's come up with this before... but I'm a bit of a lurker and not always tuned in *waves hi bob* Anyways, Joni has remarked often about how she thinks if she wrote new songs that it would be too bleak and dark because of her current worldview... So, if she wanted to create new music and record, why not just pull out the VG-8, invite wayne, herbie, brian and the Russian over, and just work out some ideas and make an instrumental jazz album, maybe warble some scats over it? The others are all signed to Verve already, they could put it out and they know how to promote this sort of thing, and while it won't go gold (jazz records seldom do) it will at least be profitable because it's cheap to make. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:01:13 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: PP and now DTY Michael O'Malley wrote: > I was wondering if you would take a listen to the orchestral part of DTY, > The sound quality seems to vary somewhat from one > section to the next, even the piano seems duller at the end of the peice. > What do you think? Are these variations in the sound made by the patching > together of different takes or recordings ? They are doing alot of extreme panning-left and right, as well as lots of tonal treatment to the sound. Plus Tom Scott's parts were no doubt laid down separate from the orchestra. I'd guess the sounds on DTY are intentional. I didn't really notice anything strange at the times you mentioned- I'm listening to the HDCD, so maybe they fixed it? Great song. RR ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #138 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)