From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #114 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 19 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 114 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Tori does Joni [arwen evenstar ] Re: SJC Hello I'm new and love Joni's music [Bob Muller ] Beaker Street, SJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Shawn Colvin--sjc [Zachary Scot Johnson ] Six perfect (and almost perfect) albums ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Beaker Street, SJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Beaker Street, SJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Job's Sad Song ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Beaker Street, SJC ["Mark or Travis" ] Need One Ticket for Commonwealth Club [Stephen Pelton ] We have a winner in the RR contest! [littlebreen@comcast.net] Re: Beaker Street, SJC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Job's Sad Song ["Sherelle Smith" ] Judy sings Joni ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RV: We have a winner in the RR contest! [Emiliano ] Re: Joni History - The Early Days [Bob Muller ] RE: Joni History - The Early Days ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Shawn Colvin--sjc ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Joni piano arrangments/transcriptions [littlebreen@comcast.net] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: Beaker Street,sjc [MINGSDANCE@aol.com] Joni's disdain of the music biz - can any one help? [Tejas4x4@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:44:47 +0100 (BST) From: arwen evenstar Subject: Tori does Joni So far Tori has performed a cover of River and a cover of the Circle Game during her current tour. I'm going to the London gig and have my fingers crossed she'll do one there!! http://www.toriset.org/ http://thedent.com/tourlist05.html#solo2005 Tamsin Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 03:41:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: SJC Hello I'm new and love Joni's music Hello Rex, and welcome - while the latest compilation offers a stunning tracklist, there's nothing noteworthy about it except for the fact that the 16-minute opus Paprika Plains from DJRD is a remix/remaster, which is pretty superfluous because like they say down south "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thanks for the introduction - hope to hear more from you! Bob NP: Anita Gabrielle, "Woodstock" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:06:43 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Had it not already been recorded by Joni and George Hamilton IV by then? Jerry > And of course "Urge For Going" which at that time would have been in the same > category. > > Bob > > NP: Volker Niehusmann & Christiane Weber, "Conversation" > > Les Irvin wrote: >> Avon Theatre >> Stratford, Ontario, Canada >> July 10th, 1969 >> 17) Play Little David > > I find it interesting that she was still playing an older, unrecorded song > at this point in her career. > > Thanks for the interesting nit of history, Gary. > Les > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:38:36 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Beaker Street, SJC Anybody know of Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street from the 60's on? He's a friend of mine. He was literally broadcast all over the world back then and changed the course of what was being broadcast: _http://www.beakerstreet.com/faq.htm_ (http://www.beakerstreet.com/faq.htm) Enjoy! Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:51:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Zachary Scot Johnson Subject: Shawn Colvin--sjc Hi all, This is in regards to the Shawn Colvin discussion thread yesterday about 'Whole New You'. I've been a big fan of Shawn's over the years and tend to over-eagerly leap to her defense anytime she's remotely criticized. While 'Whole New You' is no doubt the least powerful of her cd's, if you give it some time (and the choice is obviously up to you) I suspect the songs will begin to grow on you. I think I probably put that in the cd player more than any of her other cd's still, perhaps since it's the most recent (besides the greatest hits comp. also mentioned) and I've worn down all of her other stuff. As far as what she's up to now, she definetely is still going strong. She has a new album planned for release later this year and is touring all summer (this isn't announced yet officially I don't think) in her own right and as an opening act/ double bill for John Hiatt. Her concerts are still as engaging and wonderful as ever--almost always solo acoustic and that's where she's best. Just her and a guitar, the sarcastic hillarity between songs and the most beautiful songs you could ask for. Well worth the money every time. It is sadly difficult to get information about her, as the website at www.shawncolvin.com has not been updated (as was brought up) in so long. Funny thing is, I used to have a very-well maintained Shawn site that got no support at all, so after 4 years or so I closed it and her management seems to do little for her. She is still around and powerful as ever, and as someone who doesn't know her but has met her several times, I must add a thought to the comment on whether she's tired and doesn't want to raise a child for the next 20 years. She's spoken out a lot lately about her depression, first on Oprah, then in other awareness meetings, interviews, etc. Having her daughter has seemed to bring more joy to her than she has ever experienced. While the songs have never been happy and will probably continue on that way, she has never seemed more content and happy in real life. I think she's liking motherhood so much that she actually puts it as first priority over her career, something that many claim but few do. Anyways, that's my response to the Shawn thing. Give her new album a chance whenever it comes out--Shawn will always be worth it. Also, while on the subject, someone posted something about Joni possibly dissing Shawn in a recent interview or something? What was that--what was said? Zach __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:13:14 -0400 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Rants and raves and barrel bottoms and whatever Thanks, Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Rants and raves and barrel bottoms and whatever > And this from the lady who complained (sort of) about being asked to sing > her fans' favorite songs over and over. (I'm thinking of the interlude on > MOA where she compares performing artists to painters.) > > But more importantly, where IS Hissing? Hejira? or DJRD? > > I have been rebuilding my Joni collection in CD's and have been unable to > find Hissing or DJRD or Night > > I wouldn't expect those CDs to grace the shelves of the vast majority of > music stores. They're just too "old" and weren't multi-platinum to begin with. But > they are all available at online retailers, and in fact Hejira in particular > sells relatively well much of the time (yes, I actually pay attention to that > stuff). > Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:21:36 +0100 (BST) From: arwen evenstar Subject: Blue in Top 100 2 posts in one day, I don't know what's come over me UK listers may have caught Channel 4's Top 100 Album chart last night. Some "interesting" choices... I know these things are a matter of personal taste. But.... Joshua Tree better than every single Beatles album??? Come on! 2 Oasis albums in the top 20!!! I rest my case. Blue made it in at number 66 at any rate http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/G/greatest/albums/results.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:29:29 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Six perfect (and almost perfect) albums Hi David, I wanted to add Shadows & Light to your list but decided to come up with my own. I agree with you...what a run she's had! My Six Perfect (and almost perfect) Joni Albums 1. Shdows & Light 2. Court & Spark 3. Hissing of Summer Lawns 4. Hejeira 5. Blue 6. Turbulent Indigo Sherelle David wrote: The thing is, IMHO, Joni created six perfect albums: Blue, FTR, C&S, THOSL, Hejira and DJRD. Who else has created SIX albums that were so thrilling and creative? The Beatles, Dylan, The Stones, Elton John . . . Not very many others, I would guess. What a run! Everything after that was bound to be a bit of a letdown, but she has written some incredible work over the last 25 years. We Joni fans are so spoiled! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:05:58 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Job's Sad Song Hi Walt, I didn't have to deal with such tremendous difficulites as you but I had some pretty tough emotional issues to deal with in 2000-2001. I used to use Job's Sad Song-Sire of Sorrow to help vent my own feelings of frustration and hopelessness. My favorite line is the same but I with the addition of a couple of phrases" "Oh, you tireless Watcher...What have I done to you that you make everything I dread, and everything I fear come true.." I also love the supposed "friend's" lines in the background: "We don't despise Your chastening...God is correcting you..." I learned through this ordeal that bad things happening in your life doesn't have to mean that you are a bad person as Job's friends assumed. Sherelle Walt wrote: [Joni-as-therapy aside: When I was battling cancer and pneumocystis in '95-'96, I used to sing along to, and break down doing so, Job's Sad Song from TI, esp. the line "What have I done to you, that you make everything I say and everything I do come true?" What a great line of rage!! (Heart and humor translates, for me, into ferocity and laughter). Four years later, when my father got terminally ill and I went home to RI to help my sister and mom take care of him in the fall of '99, I used to sing "Facelift". Although the song mostly makes me smile -- I love the poetry of the last stanza -- for some reason, Joni's obvious struggle to deal with her mother, even as she was in her 50's and her mom in her 80's, both charms me and makes me weep, the latter spe. the line "For God's sake, I'm middle aged, Mama, and time moves swift, and you know, etc."...] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:10:35 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Beaker Street, SJC LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Anybody know of Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street from the 60's on? > I remember cruising around my hometown in Iowa late at night during the summers of my college years and finding Beaker Street on the car radio. Always an ear and mind opening experience. Thanks for posting this URL, Lucy. Isn't it cool that Joni's 'The Circle Game' was the last song Clifford played to end the last broadcast of Beaker Street's KAAY incarnation? Good to see that the program and format are still going on. There are some alternatives to 'formula music, girly guile' on the airwaves after all. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:14:04 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Beaker Street, SJC Mark wrote: I remember cruising around my hometown in Iowa late at night during the summers of my college years and finding Beaker Street on the car radio. Always an ear and mind opening experience. Thanks for posting this URL, Lucy. Hi Mark, Lucy is off somewhere with Ricky. Love, Ethel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:43:56 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Job's Sad Song Sherelle & Walt, You both never cease to amaze me with your wisdom and kind words on this list. Thanks to you both for being here. Dear Sherelle, congratulations on your success on Saturday night. I got tears reading Bob's account of it this morning, but now that I'm done feeling sorry for myself for not being able to make it, I wanted to express my continued support and admiration of your talent. love db >>> "Sherelle Smith" 4/18/2005 11:05:58 AM >>> Hi Walt, I didn't have to deal with such tremendous difficulites as you but I had some pretty tough emotional issues to deal with in 2000-2001. I used to use Job's Sad Song-Sire of Sorrow to help vent my own feelings of frustration and hopelessness. My favorite line is the same but I with the addition of a couple of phrases" "Oh, you tireless Watcher...What have I done to you that you make everything I dread, and everything I fear come true.." I also love the supposed "friend's" lines in the background: "We don't despise Your chastening...God is correcting you..." I learned through this ordeal that bad things happening in your life doesn't have to mean that you are a bad person as Job's friends assumed. Sherelle Walt wrote: [Joni-as-therapy aside: When I was battling cancer and pneumocystis in '95-'96, I used to sing along to, and break down doing so, Job's Sad Song from TI, esp. the line "What have I done to you, that you make everything I say and everything I do come true?" What a great line of rage!! (Heart and humor translates, for me, into ferocity and laughter). Four years later, when my father got terminally ill and I went home to RI to help my sister and mom take care of him in the fall of '99, I used to sing "Facelift". Although the song mostly makes me smile -- I love the poetry of the last stanza -- for some reason, Joni's obvious struggle to deal with her mother, even as she was in her 50's and her mom in her 80's, both charms me and makes me weep, the latter spe. the line "For God's sake, I'm middle aged, Mama, and time moves swift, and you know, etc."...] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:33:48 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Beaker Street, SJC LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: Thanks for > posting this URL, Lucy. > > Hi Mark, > > Lucy is off somewhere with Ricky. > > Love, > Ethel How embarrassing! I guess I was focusing on the LC in your email address and got Lucy in my head. As I was writing the post I was thinking, 'No, this isn't Lucy, it's Laura' and then went ahead and wrote Lucy anyway! Sorry about that, Ethel. If you see Lucy, tell her I need the rent check pronto! Fred ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:16:30 +0100 From: Stephen Pelton Subject: Need One Ticket for Commonwealth Club Hey JMDLers, Anyone have one extra ticket for Joni's event at the Commonwealth Club in SF this Friday?? If so please contact me off-list at stephenpelton@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, SP - -- Stephen Pelton Stephen Pelton Dance Theater San Francisco/London stephenpeltondance.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:42:51 +0100 From: Howard Subject: Re: Playing Blue Mark, You might want to try the piano transcription of Blue I did, it's available from www.jmdl.com/guitar. Find it by searching by song or album. Without wanting to blow my own trumpet, it's pretty much note-for-note what Joni plays and will be much better than the songbook version. It's a great one to play on the piano, such a wonderful song... Howard >> >> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:15:55 -0700 >> From: "Mark or Travis" >> Subject: Playing Blue >> >> Today I received a used, soiled, dog-eared copy of the 'Joni Mitchell >> Complete Songbook Volume 2' that I bought from Ebay. I just fumbled, >> stumbled, banged and rumbled my way through the song 'Blue' on my >> keyboard for the first time. It took forever for me to get all the >> way through it but I played it. The transcription is pretty close to >> Joni's playing and I am just in awe of the beauty of it. What a >> thrill it is to play this music! Up until now I have had a very slim >> repertoire of very easy versions of such megahits as 'Scarborough >> Fair', 'Greensleeves', 'Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring', 'Die Lorelei', >> 'Fur Elise' and 'Moonlight Sonata'. On a good day I can get through >> the first four of these without too many wrong notes if I play them >> over and over a half dozen or so times. Now I really have something >> to aspire to! >> >> Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:46:51 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: We have a winner in the RR contest! Bom dia, coelhos meus! We have a winner in the Romancin' Rick contest! Here's the most recent version, with persistent diacritic problems: Romancing Richard (aka Romancin' Rick) (Ia) A zltima vjs que (eu) vi Richard foi a Detroit em '68, e jle disse: "Ttdos os romanticos vco no mesmo lugar, algum dia, "Citico, e bjbado, e chateando alguem em qualquer cafi." (Ib) "Tz ries", dijo (il), "Te piensas inmune, "Va, mmrate los ojos, son lunas azules, "Te gustan rosas y besos y hombrecitos que te digan sus mentirillas bonitas -- "!Mentirillas! -- ?Cuando entenderas que no son mas que mentirillas? "Mentirillas-- mentirijillas..." (IIa) Ell va ficar uns pesos en la Wurlitzer, i va triar unas cangons, i la maquina se va pusar de girar, I la cambrera ens va venir -- portava mitjas negras i una cravat -- I va dir: "Si us plau, acabin las begudas, es [gairebi] l'hora de tancar" (IIb) "Richard", j'ai dit, "tu n'a jamais changi, ce n'est que ricemment tu idealise quelque douleur psychique, "Tes yeux sont tombeaux, mais les chansons que tu as choisis, ils sonnent "Icoute! On chante de l'amour si beau -- L'amour si doux!... "Quand vas-tu te recouvrer? 'L'amour, c'est doux, l'amour cest si doux  (IIIa) Richard ha sposato una pattinatore, E gli ha comperato una macchina di lavare [i piatti], e altra di far' la caffe, E beve in casa ora, e aspetta la TV [televisore], con tutta la casa illuminata. (IIIb) O sa sting acest lumnnare scnrbos Nu vreau ca sa aborde nimeni per masa mea, Nu vreau sa spun nimic pe nimeni! Tot8i visatori buni trec aici cnndva, S8i se ascund dinapoia sticle la cafenele nntunicate -- Cafenele intunicate! Nu e acest ca un cocon nntunecat  Am sa iau aripele (mele) frumose, S8i am sa me zbur departe! Nu e acest ca o faza, Zile aceste la cafenele nntunecate! A Ms. Catherine McKay of the Great White North said: <> [Catalan it is -- walt] <> [Other problem with Maltese is that it's basically Arabic, with a lot of Italian borrowings, but interesting choice! -- walt] <> Yes, Rumanian!! -- I could get my computer to put breve's on the a's where they belonged, but no such luck getting to stay there. Same with the cedillas on the s's and t's, where Rumanian has them. Anyway, Catherine wins her choice of See's or Ghirardelli's chocolates PLUS a San Francisco sweatshirt; and Seattle Mark, Mary P., Emiliano and the Smurfedelica all win their choices of S's or G's chocolates OR a San Fran T-shirt for their guesses, interest and/or suggestions (specify silly or sedate, and all four of you, please tell me your sizes if you go with the attire). I'll need addresses, too, 'cept for Little Blue in Bahstin, whose nest I already have in my book. By the way, anyone who actually speaks Italian and has ideas (I mean about section IIIa of R'Rick, wiseguys), please feel free to make lexical and grammatical suggestions. Ditto for Section IIIb, but I don't hold out much hope... But this isn't over, folks, oh no, not with a whack job like me -- if I find a way to go to the Eurofest in the South of France, I'm gonna start all over again, and translate it this time into Gascon, Languedocien, Auvergnat, Lemosin, Provencal, and either Provencal Alpin or Franco-Provencal. Or I might keep the Catalan, since it's spoken over the border in France, pretty near the EuroJoniFest site, if I'm not mistaken. Best to all, Weird Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:20:17 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Beaker Street, SJC In a message dated 4/18/05 12:34:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mark.travis@gte.net writes: Sorry about that, Ethel. If you see Lucy, tell her I need the rent check pronto! Fred I saw her and all she said was "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" as she ran away gripping her head. Love, Ethel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:56:01 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Job's Sad Song Dear Donna, No tears my friend! I felt a similar sadness when I've missed all the wonderful Jonifests but there is a time for every season. It seems like musical dreams are starting to come true for many on this list and I would like to be one of those persons too. My hope and dream is to have my own concert this September at the same exact venue. Right now, they have a date open for September 17th so my daughter who is managing the business end for me and I are trying to snag the date. I also have this guy who is a vocalist/guitarist to hopefully open for me and he will knock your socks off! His name is Steve and he has this unbelievable voice! He was actually playing across the street at the Metro Station (He played real good for free) and I was so amazed by what I heard, I went up to him and gave him my card. So that is my dream and it looks like a realistic one. Maybe I can see you there but if not, I will see you sometime. I don't plan on turning back now!!! Love, Sherelle >From: "Donna Binkley" >To: , >CC: >Subject: Re: Job's Sad Song >Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:43:56 -0500 > >Sherelle & Walt, > >You both never cease to amaze me with your wisdom and kind words on >this list. Thanks to you both for being here. > >Dear Sherelle, congratulations on your success on Saturday night. I >got tears reading Bob's account of it this morning, but now that I'm >done feeling sorry for myself for not being able to make it, I wanted to >express my continued support and admiration of your talent. love db > > >>> "Sherelle Smith" 4/18/2005 11:05:58 AM > >>> >Hi Walt, > >I didn't have to deal with such tremendous difficulites as you but I >had >some pretty tough emotional issues to deal with in 2000-2001. I used to >use >Job's Sad Song-Sire of Sorrow to help vent my own feelings of >frustration >and hopelessness. My favorite line is the same but I with the addition >of a >couple of phrases" > >"Oh, you tireless Watcher...What have I done to you that you make >everything >I dread, and everything I fear come true.." > >I also love the supposed "friend's" lines in the background: > >"We don't despise Your chastening...God is correcting you..." > >I learned through this ordeal that bad things happening in your life >doesn't >have to mean that you are a bad person as Job's friends assumed. > >Sherelle > > >Walt wrote: > >[Joni-as-therapy aside: When I was battling cancer and pneumocystis in > >'95-'96, >I used to sing along to, and break down doing so, Job's Sad Song from >TI, >esp. >the line "What have I done to you, that you make everything I say and >everything >I do come true?" What a great line of rage!! (Heart and humor >translates, >for >me, into ferocity and laughter). Four years later, when my father got >terminally ill and I went home to RI to help my sister and mom take >care of >him >in the fall of '99, I used to sing "Facelift". Although the song >mostly >makes >me smile -- I love the poetry of the last stanza -- for some reason, >Joni's >obvious struggle to deal with her mother, even as she was in her 50's >and >her >mom in her 80's, both charms me and makes me weep, the latter spe. the >line >"For >God's sake, I'm middle aged, Mama, and time moves swift, and you know, > >etc."...] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:48:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Judy sings Joni Judy's new cd comes out tomorrow and I received my copy today. It is wonderful and her recording of Midway is magnificant. Bob, your copy for the Covers Project is on its way! Jerry np: Judy Collins - Sally Go 'Round the Roses ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:03:40 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: RV: We have a winner in the RR contest! Oh my dears! please forgive me, but as Walt is in Comcast and it rejects e-mails from my server, I can't get my response through to him, so I post it to the whole group. Joni content: I take the chance to announce that, at the web site announced below, there's a link to some artwork I've made myself for the wonderful shows I've got through the kindness of you-know-who: !Muchas Gracias! Please: Have a Wonderful time! (specially if you're Patti) Emiliano NP: Nanci Griffith & John Prine: Speed At The Sound Of Loneliness > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Emiliano [mailto:emilianopd@mundo-r.com] > Enviado el: lunes, 18 de abril de 2005 23:50 > Para: littlebreen@comcast.net > Asunto: RE: We have a winner in the RR contest! > > > Boa noite, coelhinho! > > you say: " -- if I find a way to go to the Eurofest in the South of > France"... > well, that would be a great chance for me to get this San Francisco > T-Shirt!!! > besides having the luck to meet you! > > It's you, really, who deserve a gift: what if you pick a couple > (or more) of > the unofficial recordings I've got? Please choose them at > http://geocities.com/garp_emiliano and tell me what you want... along with > your address, of course! > > One more suggestion: "you think you're immune" it's better > translated at "te > crees inmune": yes it seems like "you believe you're inmune", but idioms > like "I think it's gonna rain" or "do you think I'm sexy?" they actually > translate in Spanish into "Creo que va a llover" o "?Crees que soy sexy?" > so... > > Regarding italian... my best italian friend is very very occupied > these days > (nothing serious, only some legal issues regarding their house > and so) so I > can't ask him, but I'd say that "aspetta la TV"... aspetta isn't the right > verb here( I'm pretty sure, but I'll keep you updated on this... if you > still want to improve your great translation, for sure! > > well, it midnight here and I feel tired (yes, being Monday... and > the whole > bottle of wine I've swallowed with Marga, my wife, at a long and relaxing > after dinner really helps to it), so that's enough for today. > > I really hope to read more (and more and more) from you, and > really longing > to see you near Carcasonne this summer! > > !Abrazos! > Emiliano ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:58:19 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc At least she's not making compilations. RR's look-alike Catherine McKay wrote: > Her "official" website on Sony (www.shawncolvin.com) > hasn't been updated in YEARS. Even the "hot off the > press" section hasn't been updated since 2001. Hardly > hot. Speaking of hit, it sounds to me like they've > dropped her like a hot potato. > Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Well yes, but Joni's recording wouldn't see the light of day until it was the B-side of "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio". Tom Rush was actually the first to record it, ahead of Hamilton. Anyway, your point is well taken - UFG would have been 'known' moreso than Play Little David Play regardless. Thanks Gary for sharing this great memory and setlist. Wish I had a copy of THIS one. Bob NP: The Brains, "See Me" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:24:25 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni History - The Early Days Don't we all, dude? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 7:02 PM To: Jerry Notaro Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Well yes, but Joni's recording wouldn't see the light of day until it was the B-side of "You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio". Tom Rush was actually the first to record it, ahead of Hamilton. Anyway, your point is well taken - UFG would have been 'known' moreso than Play Little David Play regardless. Thanks Gary for sharing this great memory and setlist. Wish I had a copy of THIS one. Bob NP: The Brains, "See Me" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 19:39:18 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! Rex, A few. It looks like the cover photo was shot by Joni's long time guitar tech, photographer and friend, Joel Bernstein. If I recall correctly, he "pre-visualized" a photo of Joni skating (like "River") in a black dress ("like a Black Crow"). He shot the main photo you see on the cover of Hejira. For years I thought it was a desert floor, as in "driving across a burning desert" on DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER. Anyway, yes, the word on the JMDL is that most of the tracks are the studio tracks that many of us have enjoyed for decades. The exception this time around is "Paprika Plains". Joni said that she'd have someone adjust the pitch of the pianos. She spliced together at least 2 (but I'm thinking 3) piano ideas, caught on different pianos, in different studios on different days. Legend has it that when Joni first met Charles Mingus face-to-face, he "called" her on the mis-matched pianos but approved of her chutzpah and musicianship. It's implied that Paprika Plains was why Mr. Mingus sought her out for the collaboration that we now know as MINGUS. In North America, "Songs of A Prairie Girl" will be in stores next Monday (April 25, 2005). Sincerely, Lama Rex said, >I've heard news of a new compilation 'Songs of A Prairie Girl' coming out next week? (I'm sure it's already been discussed :s ) So I'm assuming it's just regular versions of the songs like the last two comp's...are there any other details to know about this release?> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:39:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: "Songs of A Prairie Girl", in stores next Monday! < He shot the main photo you see on the cover of Hejira.> The credits for the photos on Hejira are for Bernstein & Norman Seeff - I was always under the impression that Seeff took that classic cover shot, and Bernstein took the one of her skating away with her "crow wings". Not that it's a real big issue, mind you, but then again we are talking about THE BEST RECORD EVER MADE. And to further confuse things, there's more than one photo that makes up the Hejira cover, so it could be a composite from both. I believe that it will actually be available the following day. Typically the new releases are available on Tuesdays, and the 26th has been the advertised release date for SOAPG. Bob NP: Ani, "Cradle And All" (live version) Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:46:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin--sjc Hi Zack - thanks for the Shawn update...I was really bummed out by Whole New You, really sounds second rate next to her other work - uninspired. I'm glad to hear that she's working on a new project, and still find it hard to believe that she didn't include a Joni cover on her "Covers Girl" CD. Joni didn't really diss Shawn too badly - she just responded to comments that Shawn made about Joni being her inspiration by saying that her music wasn't like hers at all. You can go to the library (http://www.jmdl.com/library/), search on "Shawn" or "Colvin" and turn up the interview(s). I wonder too if there was a bit of jealousy involved because Larry was producing Shawn, and it's not like she's totally unattractive or anything. Bob NP: Genesis, "Mad Man Moon" Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: Shawn Colvin--sjc Bob Muller said: > > Joni didn't really diss Shawn too badly - she just responded to comments > that Shawn made about Joni being her inspiration by saying that her music > wasn't like hers at all. I hear Joni say this often, and it bothers me, especially with her claims as artist. Many people are inspired to do their own work because of the work of another. It doesn't mean their work has to look or sound like those who inspire them. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:35:54 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni piano arrangments/transcriptions Howard said (to Seattle Mark): <> In related matters: In '03 I was working on reproducing the complete original piano opening to TLTISRichard (now aka Romancin' Rick), and will return to it soon. Also, I recently (thanks, Rob L!) got the sheet music to several early Joni songs, and am currently working on slightly more beefed-up arrangements to Melody In Your Name and Jeremy, the latter of which I worked up well enough to accompany someone singing it way back in '77 or '78. Finally, I started working some years back (in '02 or '03, I think) on a repeating bridge between the four "Christmasy" Joni songs (Magi, River, Chinese Cafe and Facelift) based on a wonderful cover of River that I heard once on one of my Cable TV channels (obviously the all-Xmas Channel that comes but once't a year) that repeated the line "Wish I may, wish I might..." and later "Wish I might, wish I may..." (Hey SCBob -- can you remind me which cover this is/was, and any chance I could get it from you?) I never got far with this project, other than a nearly complete Magi arrangment and a rather substantially different arrangement for Facelift for piano, but anyhoo: Anyone interested in *any* of the above, please feel free to contact me off-list, and I'll send stuff along as it gets finished. best to all, Walt Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me Original message to the thread: >> >> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:15:55 -0700 >> From: "Mark or Travis" >> Subject: Playing Blue >> >> Today I received a used, soiled, dog-eared copy of the 'Joni Mitchell >> Complete Songbook Volume 2' that I bought from Ebay. I just fumbled, >> stumbled, banged and rumbled my way through the song 'Blue' on my >> keyboard for the first time. It took forever for me to get all the >> way through it but I played it. The transcription is pretty close to >> Joni's playing and I am just in awe of the beauty of it. What a >> thrill it is to play this music! Up until now I have had a very slim >> repertoire of very easy versions of such megahits as 'Scarborough >> Fair', 'Greensleeves', 'Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring', 'Die Lorelei', >> 'Fur Elise' and 'Moonlight Sonata'. On a good day I can get through >> the first four of these without too many wrong notes if I play them >> over and over a half dozen or so times. Now I really have something >> to aspire to! >> >> Mark E. in Seattle>>-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:14:38 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 Albany, New York knows Joni Mitchell. The Karner Blue butterfly has been cited as a reason for not building a shopping mall in the seventies. That didn't work. Then in the eighties - the butterfly once again was cited as a reason to minimize expansion of that mall. That didn't work. Tonight, listening to the news in Albany - the lead in to a story stated that a local politician cited Joni's lyrics when opposing a proposed hotel (not a parking lot) in the Pine Bush. If past behavior is any indicator of future behavior - that Karner Blue is doomed! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:17:19 EDT From: MINGSDANCE@aol.com Subject: Re: Beaker Street,sjc Beaker Street, SJC Anybody know of Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street from the 60's on? He's a friend of mine. He was literally broadcast all over the world back then and changed the course of what was being broadcast: Hey Laura, I always tell people about Clyde Clifford and Beaker Street and his soft spoken voice. Smooth like Barry White. That was the first underground AM station. I remember listening to KAAY Little Rock when I was about 14 or15, 1968 I lived in ST. Charles right outside St. Louis. I think it came on around Midnight.untill 2 or 3. He use to play "The SS Titanic" which was such a great song (you got to let it out Captain). He played Joni long before any FM or other stations in that area. I think it was the Red Barn head shop or venue he would advertise. I heard about "The Celebration of life Festival" on his station in 1971, so I graduated June 6th from high school my best friend and I left town the next day and hitchhiked to Baton Rouge for the 2 week festival. Acid booze and ass, lots of laughs, especially with the cactus buttons we ate. Thanks for the Blast from the past and tell old Clyde I'm still a fan. He's made history! Peace Mingus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 02:03:20 EDT From: Tejas4x4@aol.com Subject: Joni's disdain of the music biz - can any one help? Hello there! Does anyone know where I can find any information where Joni shares her disdain of the music industry. Interviews, articles etc..I seem to remember a lengthy interview that Joni did where pretty much all she talked about was that. I am writing a paper and collecting data at this point. Any guidance would be very appreciated. I am mostly a lurker and don't get in the pipe much but do know and have met a few of you. I do keep a pulse on the list though. GREAT group of people. Thanks in advance, Take Care, Frank ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #114 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)