From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, April 18 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 113 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc [Em ] Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc [Catherine McKay ] Earth Day With Joni [Richard Goldman ] RE: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc ["Richard Flynn" ] Jackson owns Joni Song Rights ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: The catalog, Michael Jackson..... [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni History - The Early Days ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: Joni History - The Early Days [Les Irvin ] RE: Joni History - The Early Days [Bob Muller ] SJC Hello I'm new and love Joni's music ["rex and the city ." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:48:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc Hey Lama thanks for running through that stuff for us. If I could conjure one of those to my house right this moment, it would be the Miles Davis. Sounds like a good blow...(whatever that means) I like what you said about back then, them recording in simpler stereo which sounded so good. Thats like the real early Chuck Berry recordings I think I read were done on 2 track machines, and to me they sound so good and crisp, whereas some of the later stuff sounded more muddy. :) See ya! gotta go finish painting pineapple plants on my Aunt's wall. Em - --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > ** & 1/2 "Reveling / Reconning" (Ani Difranco) > This isn't meant to be "a statement" disc. It's a "little record". > She has > some nice stories. .... snip ......... > I originally had 12 reviews and cut it to 9. > > Sincerely, > Jim L'Hommedieu > Covington, KY ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:19:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > ** "Whole New You" (Shawn Colvin) > I love the "Steady On" disc which she made with John > Leventhal as producer. > I think he brought a lot of great ideas to those > songs and also made > something that sounds great in the audiophile sense. > This time, I think > they both phoned it in. If I could step into Pete > Townsendt's shoes to > rename "Whole New You" I would call it "Shawn By > Numbers", or maybe even > "Who's Out of Ideas?" It could just be, "Who's really tired after having a kid and now having to devote the next 20 yrs to raising her?" We'll only know in another 10-15 yrs. I'm not sure what Shawn is up to right now, but I haven't heard/read anything about any plans for a new album of new stuff. Her "official" website on Sony (www.shawncolvin.com) hasn't been updated in YEARS. Even the "hot off the press" section hasn't been updated since 2001. Hardly hot. Speaking of hit, it sounds to me like they've dropped her like a hot potato. "A whole new you" has some kinda nice tunes on it but, nothing too memorable, IMO. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:20:27 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Earth Day With Joni http://www.commonwealthclub.org/featured.html Commonwealth Club of California Presents JONI MITCHELL | FRIDAY APRIL 22 Recording and Performing Artist, Activist EARTH DAY WITH JONI MITCHELL An innovative and original songwriter, singer, musician, poet and painter, Mitchell is regarded as one of the great formative influences on contemporary popular music. A love of nature has been a recurring theme in Mitchell's music, most notably in her hit proto-environmental song, "Big Yellow Taxi," which was released in the spring of 1970 while the first Earth Day protests were being held across the United States. In 2004 she released "The Beginning of Survival" - a collection of her "social commentary" music from the 1980s and 90s that features strong environmental themes. Join us for Earth Day with Mitchell as she discusses these recordings and shares her unique perspectives on art, music, philosophy, politics, commerce and the environment. The event is completely Sold Out. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:05:52 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc I agree that "Whole New You" was a falling off. Does anyone know if she is indeed without a label at present? The greatest hits video and cd lead me to believe she might be. I pretty much detest the rock video format, but am happy I bought the DVD for the live performances included as bonus footage. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:19 PM To: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu; JMDL Subject: Re: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > ** "Whole New You" (Shawn Colvin) > I love the "Steady On" disc which she made with John > Leventhal as producer. > I think he brought a lot of great ideas to those > songs and also made > something that sounds great in the audiophile sense. > This time, I think > they both phoned it in. If I could step into Pete > Townsendt's shoes to > rename "Whole New You" I would call it "Shawn By > Numbers", or maybe even > "Who's Out of Ideas?" It could just be, "Who's really tired after having a kid and now having to devote the next 20 yrs to raising her?" We'll only know in another 10-15 yrs. I'm not sure what Shawn is up to right now, but I haven't heard/read anything about any plans for a new album of new stuff. Her "official" website on Sony (www.shawncolvin.com) hasn't been updated in YEARS. Even the "hot off the press" section hasn't been updated since 2001. Hardly hot. Speaking of hit, it sounds to me like they've dropped her like a hot potato. "A whole new you" has some kinda nice tunes on it but, nothing too memorable, IMO. Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:37:03 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Jackson owns Joni Song Rights Re mj "He has been reluctant to face reality," Well if that isn't an understatement! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:09:55 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: The catalog, Michael Jackson..... An administration deal allows Joni to retain ownership of her songs. The deal will be for x number of years, and Sony/ATV would be responsible for collection, accounting, licensing type stuff, as well as using it's contacts and staff to try to maximize exploitation of the titles, which would explain Joni songs in movies and TV in recent years (Love, Actually, Northern Exposure, etc), maybe even Counting Crows covering BYT. Their percentage of all income collected would typically be 10-25%. So, presumably, Michael Jackson is getting 5-12.5% of the income generated from Joni's songs. The exact terms would only be known by the parties involved and their lawyers, I would think. I don't know whether this would apply to her back catalog sales. - -"There are also some catalogs that are so prestigious by their very nature that many publishers will accept a short-term administration relationship because being associated with such a catalog will enhance their reputation and, more than likely, generate additional business from other sources." - Music, Money and Success (Brabec & Brabec) RR BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: > >Other famous names in the catalog include Garth Brooks, Joni Mitchell, > > >The credits for her recent albums still say "Crazy Crow Music, > >administered by Sony/ATV" so I think she still owns the songs and > >has an administration deal with Sony. I hadn't noticed this before- > >but it's in TTT, and since. > > Right....read the article again. It does not say MJ owns the publishing > rights to Joni's songs (thank God). The email header did. The article isn't specific but implies as much. > Joni has an arrangement with Sony, as indicated > above, and Jackson has an interest there, apparently. Perhaps someone can > explain this more clearly. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:06:16 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Joni History - The Early Days While going through some old papers, I came across one of the concert lists that I had made; this one regarding the first time I saw Joni in 1969. This was the one time I met her in person and she autographed a program for me. I thought the song list she did that night would be nice for the archives, plus if I don't type this out now, I may never find it again! Best regards, Gary Zack Detroit Avon Theatre Stratford, Ontario, Canada July 10th, 1969 8:30 P.M. Joni Mitchell Concert 1) Chelsea Morning 2) Cactus Tree 3) Night in the City 4) I Had a King 5) A Tale of Two Houses (Rainy Night House & Blue Boy) 6) Get Together 7) The Fiddle and the Drum 8) Both Sides Now 9) Marcie 10) Nathan LaFraneer 11) Hunter (The Good Samaritan) 12) He Played Real Good For Free 13) Willie 14) The Gallery 15) Circle Game 16) Michael From Mountains 17) Play Little David 18) Urge For Going ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:23:11 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days Gary Z wrote: > While going through some old papers, I came across one of the > concert > lists that I had made; this one regarding the first time I saw Joni > in > 1969. This was the one time I met her in person and she autographed > a > program for me. I thought the song list she did that night would be > nice for the archives, plus if I don't type this out now, I may > never > find it again! > > Best regards, > Gary Zack > Detroit A lovely set and what a wonderful experience this must have been for you, Gary! Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:48:18 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: RE: Joni History - The Early Days > Avon Theatre > Stratford, Ontario, Canada > July 10th, 1969 > 17) Play Little David I find it interesting that she was still playing an older, unrecorded song at this point in her career. Thanks for the interesting nit of history, Gary. Les ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Joni History - The Early Days And of course "Urge For Going" which at that time would have been in the same category. Bob NP: Volker Niehusmann & Christiane Weber, "Conversation" Les Irvin wrote: > Avon Theatre > Stratford, Ontario, Canada > July 10th, 1969 > 17) Play Little David I find it interesting that she was still playing an older, unrecorded song at this point in her career. Thanks for the interesting nit of history, Gary. Les Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:12:10 -0400 From: "rex and the city ." Subject: SJC Hello I'm new and love Joni's music Hey everyone, new fan on digest here. My name is Rex and I live in Toronto, Canada and I've recently come to fully appreciate the breadth of Joni's great music, having collected most of the records and I also just finished reading Karen O'Brien's biography on her. My profile is on the JMDL website :) anyway, it's sort of odd that now I've become a bigger fan, I've heard news of a new compilation 'Songs of A Prarie Girl' coming out next week? (I'm sure it's already been discussed :s ) So I'm assuming it's just regular versions of the songs like the last two comp's...are there any other details to know about this release? :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:18:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: SJC Hello I'm new and love Joni's music - --- "rex and the city ." wrote: > Hey everyone, new fan on digest here. My name is > Rex and I live in Toronto, > Canada Hey, Rex! That makes two of us (although I'm sure there are more). Welcome. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:58:19 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Joni History - The Early Days I do seem to recall Joni saying just before she played the song that "Play Little David" was written for her friend, David Rea. You can read about him here: http://www.mp3.com/david-rea/artists/1770/biography.html Best, Gary Les Irvin wrote: >>Avon Theatre >>Stratford, Ontario, Canada >>July 10th, 1969 >>17) Play Little David >> >> > >I find it interesting that she was still playing an older, unrecorded song at this point in her career. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #113 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)