From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #112 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, April 17 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 112 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's Lyrics in another language ["mike pritchard" ] first works ["Kate Bennett" ] WSJ ["Kate Bennett" ] Joni in furn languages, and Romancin' Rick Contest, to follow [littlebree] Joni in Furn Languages, and Romancin' Rick Contest, to follow [littlebree] old articles [Deb Messling ] Generation gap: Who's that Joni dude? [Smurf ] Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick [littlebreen@comcast.net] RE: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick [Emiliano ] The catalog, Michael Jackson..... [BRYAN8847@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:20:21 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Joni's Lyrics in another language >>Well, I have BSN in Welsh and Vietnamese (thanks Bob) if that's any help! Ric<< Jeez Ric, Portsmouth must be more multicultural than it was last time I was there. mike in bcn NP Cohen. No Cure For Love ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:20:31 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Get Well, Neil From the Associated Press on 4/5: Singer Neil Young has left the hospital and is making "excellent" progress after having brain surgery last week, his agent has said. The rock legend, 59, was treated for a brain aneurysm in New York on 29 March. "The doctors say his progress has been excellent and the expectation is that he will make a full recovery," agent Bob Merlis said. He is recuperating in New York and is expected to go to Nashville in the coming days to go back into the studio. 'Integrity' The aneurysm was discovered when Young's vision became blurred after the induction ceremony for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last month [I read that he became apoplectic while playing with the Pretenders during taping for that broadcast.] The singer missed the Juno Awards in his home country of Canada on Sunday - but watched the ceremony at the Canadian consulate. The show included tributes to Young, including one from KD Lang, who described him as "an artist who has maintained his integrity, vision and purity". Young, whose body of work over 30 years is acclaimed for its depth and diversity, is revered for his solo work as well as stints with Buffalo Springfield and Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. - -end- - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:30:43 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Jackson owns Joni Song Rights The truth is increasingly stranger than fiction. I submit the following: - -Julius - --------- The Beatles Could Bail Out Jackson The beleaguered pop star's financial salvation may lie in selling his share of the Fab Four's songbook. But there's no sign yet of a deal. By Geoff Boucher and Randy Lewis L.A. Times Staff Writers April 16, 2005 When Michael Jackson bought the publishing rights to the Beatles catalog for $47.5 million two decades ago, he said the song he coveted most was "Yesterday." In those brighter times, his own troubles seemed so far away. But today is another matter. Jackson not only is standing trial for alleged child molestation, but he also faces debt so crushing that his handlers are pushing him to shed a substantial stake in the Fab Four's fabled songbook b something the self-proclaimed King of Pop said he would never do. Although speculation has long swirled about whether Jackson eventually would be forced to part with an asset valued at as much as $500 million, rumors of a possible sale have gained velocity in recent days as the singer's representatives have leaked word of their renewed efforts to keep creditors at bay. There's general agreement that no deal is imminent. But a consensus is building among Jackson's advisors and others in the recording industry that he may have no other way to pay an estimated $270 million in Bank of America loans he has used to underwrite his famously lavish spending. The clock is ticking. The potential of Jackson's defaulting on those loans could be greatly increased should he be found guilty by the jury now hearing testimony in Santa Maria. With his recording career on the slide for years, Jackson's only other way to generate quick cash would be to hit the concert circuit overseas, where he remains popular. "If there's a conviction," said Los Angeles entertainment lawyer Jeffrey Light, "he loses his ability to go out and make meaningful money as a live performer because he'd be in jail." The Beatles songs jointly owned by Jackson and Sony Corp. through a separate entity b Sony/ATV Music Publishing b represent a treasure trove of music by the songwriting team of John Lennon and Paul McCartney that generates vast sums every year through licensing and royalty deals. Since the Beatles landed on U.S. soil in the early 1960s, no group has enjoyed such sustained success. "This band changed music forever," said Scott Francis, president of BMG Songs North America, another power in the publishing field. "There are always new uses for these songs. New generations are being introduced to this catalog all the time." When a song is used in a commercial, film, television show, stage performance, video game or cellphone ring tone, a licensing fee is paid. That revenue is split between the songwriter and the publisher. So every time "Can't Buy Me Love" is used, for example, half the money goes to McCartney and the Lennon estate, with the rest going to Sony/ATV. Under one scenario being floated by Jackson's representatives, he would reduce his interest in Sony/ATV from 50% to 15%. The money he'd make by selling a 35% stake would repay his debts and give him $10 million in cash upfront, while still assuring him a stream of about $10 million a year from the catalog, according to one of the singer's changing cast of business advisors. Jackson would also receive a one-time $10-million payment. "He has been reluctant to face reality," said the advisor, who acknowledged that Jackson had rebuffed previous overtures to sell. "But it's getting to the point something needs to be done, and he needs to accept that." For Jackson, however, owning the publishing rights to the Lennon/McCartney songs has always been more about emotion than money. Indirectly, Jackson got the idea of buying the Beatles catalog from McCartney himself. It was the early 1980s, and the two were in London working together on a record. After eating dinner at McCartney's home, the former Beatle showed Jackson a bound notebook filled with song titles McCartney owned. Among them were hits by artists including the late Buddy Holly. Jackson was intrigued. He peppered McCartney with questions about how he could get into the game. Soon after, Jackson talked to his attorney, John Branca, about buying the copyrights to songs he loved. He snapped up a collection of Sly Stone songs and Dion's "Run Around Sue." Making it clear he wanted to buy songs only if they had personal meaning for him, Jackson passed on valuable catalogs when the music didn't move him. But in September 1984, when Branca told him that the ATV catalog was available, he jumped on it. ATV was an entertainment conglomerate that in 1969 had purchased Northern Songs, a publishing company established by the Beatles. The catalog was huge b it included 4,000 songs b but the more than 200 Beatles songs were the most valuable in the bunch, worth an estimated two-thirds of the catalog's value. ATV was then owned by Australian tycoon Robert Holmes a Court. His company, Bell Group, negotiated with Jackson for 10 months. The process was so laborious and complicated that some insiders began calling it "The Long and Winding Road." When the deal was done in August 1985, Jackson had triumphed over several other suitors, including London-based Virgin Records and New York real estate tycoon Samuel J. Lefrak. In 1995, looking to deal with money problems that were surfacing even then, Jackson went from 100% owner to 50% owner after merging ATV with Sony's publishing arm. The deal also gave Jackson a 50% stake in new songs added to the company's catalog. That's why Jackson now profits from the tunes of Destiny's Child and other young acts, much to Sony's chagrin. Branca, who negotiated the Sony/ATV deal, declined to comment on any changes that may be in the offing. The Sony/ATV catalog generates an estimated $80 million in annual revenue, half from Beatles songs. Although the Beatles songs may be the Hope diamond of music publishing, the ATV collection of songs has plenty of other jewels. They are as varied as Bob Dylan's classic "Blowin' in the Wind" and Will Smith's "Gettin' Jiggy Wit It." Other famous names in the catalog include Garth Brooks, Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks, System of a Down, Stephen Stills, Sarah McLachlan, Neil Diamond and Sade. Jackson's financial problems could be a blessing for Sony, which has grown frustrated with having to share so much money with the singer from publishing rights obtained since the merger. That includes the Acuff-Rose and Tree Publishing catalogs, the two biggest country music publishing houses. With no deal on the near horizon, music industry insiders Friday were left to ponder who might make a run at Jackson's holdings. Most said they'd be surprised if Sony did not have some sort of contractural clause giving it the inside track. Several high-placed executives at Sony said they had no knowledge of the proposal that Jackson's advisors were pushing. The company had no official comment Friday. A publishing business veteran who worked with Jackson in the past said Friday that there would be no bigger symbol of the severity of Jackson's plight than if he said goodbye to the Beatles. "It would be very clear proof he is totally destroyed financially," said this former associate. "He would do anything except that." * Times staff writers Josh Friedman, Meg James and Joel Sappell contributed to this report. * (BEGIN TEXT OF INFOBOX) Songbook Michael Jackson's advisors are urging him to give up a substantial portion of his 50% interest in the Sony/ATV Music catalog, which includes 251 Beatles songs. Among them are these notable titles: "Yesterday" "Michelle" "Help" "The Long and Winding Road" "Let It Be" "Revolution" "A Hard Day's Night" "Can't Buy Me Love" "Hey Jude" "Eleanor Rigby" "Strawberry Fields Forever" "Come Together" "Get Back" "She Loves You" Los Angeles Times ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:45:10 -0700 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Jackson owns Joni Song Rights jrmco1@aol.com wrote: > The truth is increasingly stranger than fiction. I submit the > following: > -Julius > --------- > > The Beatles Could Bail Out Jackson > > Indirectly, Jackson got the idea of buying the Beatles catalog from > McCartney himself. It was the early 1980s, and the two were in London > working together on a record. After eating dinner at McCartney's home, > the former Beatle showed Jackson a bound notebook filled with song > titles McCartney owned. Among them were hits by artists including the > late Buddy Holly. Jackson was intrigued. He peppered McCartney with > questions about how he could get into the game. Some of the info in this story sounds a little sketchy. According to McCartney, Jackson asked him about how to invest his money, and Paul told him (not indirectly) to get into publishing. Some time later he got a call, and the soft Jackson voice said "I'm buying your songs", which really pissed him off. Because McCartney and Yoko Ono could not agree to be partners, and could not swing the deal individually, Jackson outbid them. > Other famous names in the catalog include Garth Brooks, Joni Mitchell, The credits for her recent albums still say "Crazy Crow Music, administered by Sony/ATV" so I think she still owns the songs and has an administration deal with Sony. I hadn't noticed this before- but it's in TTT, and since. > Jackson's financial problems could be a blessing for Sony, which has > grown frustrated with having to share so much money with the singer > from publishing rights obtained since the merger. Why would they be? Surely they knew this going in. > Michael Jackson's advisors are urging him to give up a substantial > portion of his 50% interest in the Sony/ATV Music catalog, which > includes 251 Beatles songs. The Beatles only did about 211 songs or so-and some of them were Harrison's. Maybe some of Lennon & McCartney's early solo songs were included? Either that or the figure is wrong. Maybe Paul can finally get his songs back. I think he can afford it now. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:50:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: first works >She had tons o'Patti Griffin, apparently the earliest of which I loved best. I feel so bad about that - I don't know what it is! Even without having a clue as to where certain work fell, chronoligically, in a given artist's career, I will almost always pick their 1st or 2nd album as my fave< My theory is that the artist has had their entire lifetime to write many of those songs, following their first or even second album there is often less time to create songs which doesn't have to be a bad thing but sometimes, especially if it is a major label artist, there is no time to reflect & refine- just produce... I think one of the reasons joni's work is so extraordinary is that contrary to music biz rule of thumb (tour tour tour after releasing a record), she went back into her cave (metaphorically speaking) to write ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:08:41 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: WSJ >Although she is frequently cited as the inspiration for the current generation of singer/songwriters, including Sarah McLachlan, Shawn Colvin and Natalie Merchant, she's disdainful of their work. She cites a failure on their part to take more musical risks, feeling that they listened to her early recordings and failed to capture the full breadth of her recording career.< I recognize how interviewers can really skew someone's comments & hope that some of the above was tainted with the interviewr's own spin or interpretation to create a story. Because it is so sad to me that joni would dis these artists especially sarah & shawn who have some mighty fine songs that stand up to or exceed some of joni's works. The above quote fails to take into consideration that the artists cite joni as an influence but not the only influence. Shawn's main influences were joni & the beatles. And since when is an artist supposed to be capturing the full breadth of anyone's career in their music. Not to mention the fact that taking musical risks is only one part of what may or may not make a song interesting. That last criteria is really an intellectual one, not from the heart. I will always love joni for who she is & what she has created but she is really sounding like a terrible curmudgeon towards anyone who is female & younger than she is & with any talent. Her old flame David Crosby on the other hand, in spite of his flaws is someone who is so incredibly open & supporting of other people's music. He was moved to tears when he attended our local community college's songwriting class filled with all ages & levels of songwriters. He is truly someone who loves music for music's sake & I admire him greatly for having that attitude & not falling into being jaded towards others by his own brilliant moments. I really feel sorry for anyone who is not open & listening to so much of the beautiful songs being written out there today. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:41:16 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni in furn languages, and Romancin' Rick Contest, to follow - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:43:45 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Joni in Furn Languages, and Romancin' Rick Contest, to follow (Whoops, sorry about that last one -- here's the actual content) - --Joseph asked: <> Funny you should ask at this juncture, Joseph. In a posting (hopefully later today) I'll be announcing the "Romancin' Rick Contest", as soon as I've done some fixing up there. In meantime, Mary Pitassi just won her choice of chocolate from See's or Ghiradelli's (or a cheezy San Francisco T-shirt) for correctly identifying the following (at the Northeast Jonifest site): Que caiguin les parets al terra I tots els gossos corrin liberats Els gossos vagabundes i docils que viuen al meu cor I'll try to post the RR contest befor the end of day today. Tempus fugit, cunniculi mei, Gaulterius Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:03:19 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: old articles I'm having fun rummaging through my box of old Joni articles. These days, critical opinion is starting to jell around a particular set of ideas, and the narrative of Joni's story is something we can all recite, so it's interesting to go look back and read opinions untested by time. I'm finding the album reviews seem to "get" Joni a lot more than I would have expected them to - even HOSL - but then, maybe I only saved the good reviews. Anyway, today I'm adding a 1976 concert review from the Daily Cougar, the college paper for the University of Houston. It's notable by the reviewer's obvious disappointment that Joni is not projecting the granola-eating Tolkien-reading hippie thing. Also notable for an account of one of Joni's famous hissy fits before an inattentive audience. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:31:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Generation gap: Who's that Joni dude? A columnist from Pittsburgh named Tony Norman wrote a column with the above headline for last Tuesday's Post-Gazette. It's not great, but if you want, you can find it here: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05102/486799.stm The column is about the writer driving his twin 14-year-old sons around while listening to music. Here's the Joni content: << When Joni Mitchell returned to the stage of San Francisco's Winterland Arena strumming the opening chords to "Coyote" with the weird, open-tuning that characterized her middle-period performances, my son was openly contemptuous: "Who's this dude?" he asked. Dude? What dude? Is this evil twin talking about Joni Mitchell? I had a flashback to what Dylan once said about her in Rolling Stone: "Joni Mitchell is almost like a man. [She's] got a strange sense of rhythm that's all her own, and she lives on that timetable." "Get out," I told my son when we reached the karate studio. I refused to acknowledge his mysterious powers of perception. >> - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:43:20 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick Imaginary episode of Jeopardy: Alex: Okay, Herb, the board is yours. Herb: I'll take "Weird Hobbies" for 800, Alex! Alex: The answer is: "Romancin' Rick". Herb: What is what happens when you take a person with weird hobbies who worships a certain flaxen-haird Canadian singer-songwriter, who is getting off various prescription medications, who has a high fever, and waaaayyyy too much time on his hands? Alex: That is correct, Herb, and the board is still yours... Announcing the Romancin' Rick Contest: First person who can tell me what the following is *with the most accuracy* wins a small prize. People of Anglo/Welsh descent living in Barcelona are disqualified, as I already told him what this is. I had trouble with diacritics, so excuse any infelicities in that department. Enjoy: "Romancin' Rick" (Ia) A zltima vjs que (eu) vi Richard foi a Detroit em '68, e jle disse: "Ttdos os romanticos vco no mesmo lugar, algum dia, "Citico, e bjbado, e chateando alguem em qualquer cafi." (Ib) "Tz ries", dijo (il), "Te piensas imuna, "Va, mmrate los ojos, son lunas azules, "Te gustan rosas y besos y hombritos que te digan sus mentiritas bonitas -- "!Mentiritas! -- ?Cuando entenderas que no son que mentiritas? "Mentiritas-- mentiritas..." (IIa) Ell va ficar uns pesos en la Wurlitzer, i va triar unas cangons, i la maquina se va pusar de girar, I la cambrera ens va venir -- portava mitjas negras i una cravat -- I va dir: "Si us plau, acabin las begudas, es [gairebi] l'hora de tancar" (IIb) "Richard", j'ai dit, "tu n'a jamais changi, ce n'est que ricemment tu idealise quelque douleur psychique, "Tes yeux sont tombeaux, mais les chansons que tu as choisis, ils sonnent "Icoute! On chante de l'amour si beau -- L'amour si doux!... "Quand vas-tu te recouvrer? 'L'amour, c'est doux, l'amour cest si doux  (IIIa) Richard ha sposato una pattinatore, E gli ha comperato una macchina di lavare [i piatti], e altra di far' la caffe, E beve in casa ora, e aspetta la TV [televisore], con tutta la casa illuminata. (IIIb) O sa sting acest lumnnare scnrbos Nu vreau ca sa aborde nimeni per masa mea, Nu vreau sa spun nimic pe nimeni! Tot8i visatori buni trec aici cnndva, S8i se ascund dinapoia sticle la cafenele nntunicate -- Cafenele intunicate! Nu e acest ca un cocon nntunecat  Am sa iau aripele (mele) frumose, S8i am sa me zbur departe! Nu e acest ca o faza, Zile aceste la cafenele nntunecate! Weird Walt, who iriginally intended to perform this above at the 2003 fest, but couldn't finish the last part in time, and was too shaky to play piano, so count your blessings... - - Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:19:01 +0200 From: Emiliano Subject: RE: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick Oh my, Gualterio! Chapeau! Would you, please, like to post it to northeast jonifest list? I'd love to see it with all the jots on!!! A little corrections (with love and affection) on spanish segment: Inmune is always "inmune" in spanish: it doesn't exist (curiosly) the female form for this adjective We *never* say "hombritos": it's "hombrecitos" (little L.M.Alcott book); I'd guess here would say "hombres guapos". "Cuando entenderas que no son que mentiritas?" it lacks a ma's: "Cuando entenderas que no son ma's que mentiritas?" and mentiritas isn't used, too: it's "mentirillas" or better still "mentirijillas" "jle" and "citico" in portuguese... they're typos, aren't they? Oh, Walter: I was hoping for your post since you've announced it (I always long for your posts, indeed) and, yes! it's so beautiful! Thanks! ...and I must confess the language in the last part is totally strange for me! Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com > > > Imaginary episode of Jeopardy: > > Alex: Okay, Herb, the board is yours. > > Herb: I'll take "Weird Hobbies" for 800, Alex! > > Alex: The answer is: "Romancin' Rick". > > Herb: What is what happens when you take a person with weird > hobbies who worships a certain flaxen-haird Canadian > singer-songwriter, who is getting off various prescription > medications, who has a high fever, and waaaayyyy too much time on > his hands? > > Alex: That is correct, Herb, and the board is still yours... > > Announcing the Romancin' Rick Contest: > > First person who can tell me what the following is *with the most > accuracy* wins a small prize. > > People of Anglo/Welsh descent living in Barcelona are > disqualified, as I already told him what this is. > > I had trouble with diacritics, so excuse any infelicities in that > department. > > Enjoy: > > "Romancin' Rick" > > (Ia) > > A zltima vjs que (eu) vi Richard > foi a Detroit em '68, e jle disse: > > "Ttdos os romanticos vco no mesmo lugar, algum dia, > > "Citico, e bjbado, e chateando alguem em qualquer cafi." > > (Ib) > > "Tz ries", dijo (il), "Te piensas imuna, > > "Va, mmrate los ojos, son lunas azules, > > "Te gustan rosas y besos y hombritos > que te digan sus mentiritas bonitas -- > > "!Mentiritas! -- ?Cuando entenderas que no son que mentiritas? > > "Mentiritas-- mentiritas..." > > (IIa) > > Ell va ficar uns pesos en la Wurlitzer, i va triar unas cangons, > i la maquina se va pusar de girar, > > I la cambrera ens va venir -- portava mitjas negras i una cravat -- > > I va dir: "Si us plau, acabin las begudas, es [gairebi] l'hora de tancar" > > (IIb) > > "Richard", j'ai dit, "tu n'a jamais changi, ce n'est que > ricemment tu idealise quelque douleur psychique, > > "Tes yeux sont tombeaux, mais les chansons que tu as choisis, ils sonnent > > "Icoute! On chante de l'amour si beau -- L'amour si doux!... > > "Quand vas-tu te recouvrer? 'L'amour, c'est doux, l'amour cest > si doux  > > (IIIa) > > Richard ha sposato una pattinatore, > > E gli ha comperato una macchina di lavare [i piatti], e altra di > far' la caffe, > > E beve in casa ora, e aspetta la TV [televisore], con tutta la > casa illuminata. > > (IIIb) > > O sa sting acest lumnnare scnrbos > > Nu vreau ca sa aborde nimeni per masa mea, > Nu vreau sa spun nimic pe nimeni! > > Tot8i visatori buni trec aici cnndva, > S8i se ascund dinapoia sticle la cafenele nntunicate -- > Cafenele intunicate! > > Nu e acest ca un cocon nntunecat  > Am sa iau aripele (mele) frumose, > S8i am sa me zbur departe! > > Nu e acest ca o faza, > Zile aceste la cafenele nntunecate! > > Weird Walt, who iriginally intended to perform this above at the > 2003 fest, but couldn't finish the last part in time, and was too > shaky to play piano, so count your blessings... > - > Let the walls go tumbling down > Falling on the ground > And all the dogs go running free > The wild and gentle dogs > Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:11:07 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: RE: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick Referring to "Romancin' Rick", Emiliano said: <> I will indeed post it there as well, but given what happened with several parts already, I despair of getting the diacritics to show up correctly. <> Excellent suggestions, all, Emilano, thanks -- they will be incorporated into the final version. "jle" and "citico" in portuguese... they're typos, aren't they? Yes. Both "e" with a circumflex and "e" with an acute accent came out wrong in trlnslation. *Without* diacritics, that section should read: A ultima ves que (eu) vi Richard foi a Detroit a '68 E ele disse: "Todos os romanticos vao no mesmo lugar algum dia, Cetico e bebado e chateando alguem in qualquer cafe." <> It's strange for me, too, Emiliano, trust me, but i did the best i could! :-) Ciao, Gaultaire Bizarre - -- Que caiguin les parets al terra I tots els gossos que corrin leberats Els gossos vagabundes i docils Que viuen al meu cor > Oh my, Gualterio! Chapeau! > > Would you, please, like to post it to northeast jonifest list? > I'd love to see it with all the jots on!!! > > A little corrections (with love and affection) on spanish segment: > Inmune is always "inmune" in spanish: it doesn't exist (curiosly) the female > form for this adjective > We *never* say "hombritos": it's "hombrecitos" (little L.M.Alcott book); I'd > guess here would say "hombres guapos". > "Cuando entenderas que no son que mentiritas?" it lacks a ma's: "Cuando > entenderas que no son ma's que mentiritas?" and mentiritas isn't used, too: > it's "mentirillas" or better still "mentirijillas" > > "jle" and "citico" in portuguese... they're typos, aren't they? > > Oh, Walter: I was hoping for your post since you've announced it (I always > long for your posts, indeed) and, yes! it's so beautiful! Thanks! > > ...and I must confess the language in the last part is totally strange for > me! > > Have a Wonderful time! > Emiliano > > > > > > -----Mensaje original----- > > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com > > > > > > Imaginary episode of Jeopardy: > > > > Alex: Okay, Herb, the board is yours. > > > > Herb: I'll take "Weird Hobbies" for 800, Alex! > > > > Alex: The answer is: "Romancin' Rick". > > > > Herb: What is what happens when you take a person with weird > > hobbies who worships a certain flaxen-haird Canadian > > singer-songwriter, who is getting off various prescription > > medications, who has a high fever, and waaaayyyy too much time on > > his hands? > > > > Alex: That is correct, Herb, and the board is still yours... > > > > Announcing the Romancin' Rick Contest: > > > > First person who can tell me what the following is *with the most > > accuracy* wins a small prize. > > > > People of Anglo/Welsh descent living in Barcelona are > > disqualified, as I already told him what this is. > > > > I had trouble with diacritics, so excuse any infelicities in that > > department. > > > > Enjoy: > > > > "Romancin' Rick" > > > > (Ia) > > > > A zltima vjs que (eu) vi Richard > > foi a Detroit em '68, e jle disse: > > > > "Ttdos os romanticos vco no mesmo lugar, algum dia, > > > > "Citico, e bjbado, e chateando alguem em qualquer cafi." > > > > (Ib) > > > > "Tz ries", dijo (il), "Te piensas imuna, > > > > "Va, mmrate los ojos, son lunas azules, > > > > "Te gustan rosas y besos y hombritos > > que te digan sus mentiritas bonitas -- > > > > "!Mentiritas! -- ?Cuando entenderas que no son que mentiritas? > > > > "Mentiritas-- mentiritas..." > > > > (IIa) > > > > Ell va ficar uns pesos en la Wurlitzer, i va triar unas cangons, > > i la maquina se va pusar de girar, > > > > I la cambrera ens va venir -- portava mitjas negras i una cravat -- > > > > I va dir: "Si us plau, acabin las begudas, es [gairebi] l'hora de tancar" > > > > (IIb) > > > > "Richard", j'ai dit, "tu n'a jamais changi, ce n'est que > > ricemment tu idealise quelque douleur psychique, > > > > "Tes yeux sont tombeaux, mais les chansons que tu as choisis, ils sonnent > > > > "Icoute! On chante de l'amour si beau -- L'amour si doux!... > > > > "Quand vas-tu te recouvrer? 'L'amour, c'est doux, l'amour cest > > si doux  > > > > (IIIa) > > > > Richard ha sposato una pattinatore, > > > > E gli ha comperato una macchina di lavare [i piatti], e altra di > > far' la caffe, > > > > E beve in casa ora, e aspetta la TV [televisore], con tutta la > > casa illuminata. > > > > (IIIb) > > > > O sa sting acest lumnnare scnrbos > > > > Nu vreau ca sa aborde nimeni per masa mea, > > Nu vreau sa spun nimic pe nimeni! > > > > Tot8i visatori buni trec aici cnndva, > > S8i se ascund dinapoia sticle la cafenele nntunicate -- > > Cafenele intunicate! > > > > Nu e acest ca un cocon nntunecat  > > Am sa iau aripele (mele) frumose, > > S8i am sa me zbur departe! > > > > Nu e acest ca o faza, > > Zile aceste la cafenele nntunecate! > > > > Weird Walt, who iriginally intended to perform this above at the > > 2003 fest, but couldn't finish the last part in time, and was too > > shaky to play piano, so count your blessings... > > - > > Let the walls go tumbling down > > Falling on the ground > > And all the dogs go running free > > The wild and gentle dogs > > Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:18:32 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick <> Yes, dear, and as soon as you can tell me (a) how many drinks in a sixpack and (b) whos' buried in Grant's Tomb, you get the prizes! Lie down, now. Con mucho amor, Gualtiero - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > > Is it "The Last Time I Saw Richard" in many languages? > (Another sign of the apocalypse.) > > XO, > > --Bob > --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > > Imaginary episode of Jeopardy: > > > > Alex: Okay, Herb, the board is yours. > > > > Herb: I'll take "Weird Hobbies" for 800, Alex! > > > > Alex: The answer is: "Romancin' Rick". > > > > Herb: What is what happens when you take a person > > with weird hobbies who worships a certain > > flaxen-haird Canadian singer-songwriter, who is > > getting off various prescription medications, who > > has a high fever, and waaaayyyy too much time on his > > hands? > > > > Alex: That is correct, Herb, and the board is still > > yours... > > > > Announcing the Romancin' Rick Contest: > > > > First person who can tell me what the following is > > *with the most accuracy* wins a small prize. > > > > People of Anglo/Welsh descent living in Barcelona > > are disqualified, as I already told him what this > > is. > > > > I had trouble with diacritics, so excuse any > > infelicities in that department. > > > > Enjoy: > > > > "Romancin' Rick" > > > > (Ia) > > > > A zltima vjs que (eu) vi Richard > > foi a Detroit em '68, e jle disse: > > > > "Ttdos os romanticos vco no mesmo lugar, algum dia, > > > > "Citico, e bjbado, e chateando alguem em qualquer > > cafi." > > > > (Ib) > > > > "Tz ries", dijo (il), "Te piensas imuna, > > > > "Va, mmrate los ojos, son lunas azules, > > > > "Te gustan rosas y besos y hombritos > > que te digan sus mentiritas bonitas -- > > > > "!Mentiritas! -- ?Cuando entenderas que no son que > > mentiritas? > > > > "Mentiritas-- mentiritas..." > > > > (IIa) > > > > Ell va ficar uns pesos en la Wurlitzer, i va triar > > unas cangons, i la maquina se va pusar de girar, > > > > I la cambrera ens va venir -- portava mitjas negras > > i una cravat -- > > > > I va dir: "Si us plau, acabin las begudas, es > > [gairebi] l'hora de tancar" > > > > (IIb) > > > > "Richard", j'ai dit, "tu n'a jamais changi, ce n'est > > que ricemment tu idealise quelque douleur psychique, > > > > "Tes yeux sont tombeaux, mais les chansons que tu as > > choisis, ils sonnent > > > > "Icoute! On chante de l'amour si beau -- L'amour si > > doux!... > > > > "Quand vas-tu te recouvrer? 'L'amour, c'est doux, > > l'amour cest si doux  > > > > (IIIa) > > > > Richard ha sposato una pattinatore, > > > > E gli ha comperato una macchina di lavare [i > > piatti], e altra di far' la caffe, > > > > E beve in casa ora, e aspetta la TV [televisore], > > con tutta la casa illuminata. > > > > (IIIb) > > > > O sa sting acest lumnnare scnrbos > > > > Nu vreau ca sa aborde nimeni per masa > > mea, > > Nu vreau sa spun nimic pe nimeni! > > > > Tot8i visatori buni trec aici cnndva, > > S8i se ascund dinapoia sticle la cafenele nntunicate > > -- > > Cafenele intunicate! > > > > Nu e acest ca un cocon nntunecat  > > Am sa iau aripele (mele) frumose, > > S8i am sa me zbur departe! > > > > Nu e acest ca o faza, > > Zile aceste la cafenele nntunecate! > > > > Weird Walt, who iriginally intended to perform this > > above at the 2003 fest, but couldn't finish the last > > part in time, and was too shaky to play piano, so > > count your blessings... > > - > > Let the walls go tumbling down > > Falling on the ground > > And all the dogs go running free > > The wild and gentle dogs > > Kenneled in me > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! > http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:49:44 +0000 From: littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: Okay, folks, here it is...Romancin' Rick > a) Six > > b) Ulysses S. Grant and his wife > > Did I win? > > XO, > > --B > > --- littlebreen@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > < > languages?>> > > > > Yes, dear, and as soon as you can tell me (a) how > > many drinks in a sixpack and (b) who's buried in > > Grant's Tomb, you get the prizes! > > > > Lie down, now. > > > > Con mucho amor, > > > > Gualtiero > > -- > > Let the walls go tumbling down > > Falling on the ground > > And all the dogs go running free > > The wild and gentle dogs > > Kenneled in me Wait, are you telling me, Smurf, that they buried that *bitch* with the best damned overweight bearded president we ever had who won a war more or less by a combination of serendipity and sheer bull-deadedness? Served him right. But, no, no prize for you yet. Not, at least, until you've taken your nap. nitey-night, w ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:21:31 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Most Recent 9 CDs, sjc ** & 1/2 "Reveling / Reconning" (Ani Difranco) This isn't meant to be "a statement" disc. It's a "little record". She has some nice stories. Most songs are either rhthmn tracks with minimal instrumentation, or simply Ani & guitar. What they're not is "full band" tracks. There's nothing wrong with that but it just ain't a major find like the next disc... **** & 1/2 "A Fortnight In France" (Patricia Barber) Every time I've put this on, it's said "Play me again." Wow, she does some challenging things on here (and that's how we like it, right gang?) She also mixes it up with well placed ballads to keep it real. The only reason it doesn't get 5 stars is because it's only been in Casa de Lama for a week. On the other hand, I'm fully confident in scoring the next one, which is... **** 1/2 "Have A Little Faith" (Mavis Staples) After I was confirmed in the Episcopalian faith (the Church of England in some places), I never returned. I love Bob Dylan's "Slow Train Comin'" and now this disc. (Every 20 years, I revisit my Christian faith?) Ms. Staples was the burbling, sassy growl in The Staple Singers. Remember "Respect Yourself"? She has a real love of the stories on this CD and she's my favorite living link to the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s. As you'd expect, the material is uplifting. As you might not expect, it's never heavy handed. *** "Car Wheels On A Gravel Road" (Lucinda Williams) I bought this for the hit "2 Kool 2 Be Forgotten". She has a great voice for rock & a cool batch of stories about juke joints. I love the local references too. Maybe it's 4 stars? ** "A Little Touch of Schmilsson" (Harry Nilsson) Not a typo, I really don't like anything at all. In the immortal words of Bob Muller, "I've listened to it a few times; nothing sticks." ** "Whole New You" (Shawn Colvin) I love the "Steady On" disc which she made with John Leventhal as producer. I think he brought a lot of great ideas to those songs and also made something that sounds great in the audiophile sense. This time, I think they both phoned it in. If I could step into Pete Townsendt's shoes to rename "Whole New You" I would call it "Shawn By Numbers", or maybe even "Who's Out of Ideas?" I'm sure no one is still reading but I'll soldier on, out of dedication to preserving my God given writing skills for generations of music fans who are not yet born. *** & 1/2 "Pale Sun / Cresent Moon" (Cowboy Junkies) This is back catalog, to replace a "compact cassette". Remember those? ***** "In Person Saturday Night At the Blackhawk, vol II" (Miles Davis) Okay, *NOW* I get it. For several years I couldn't understand this guy. I mean, what do "Freddie Freeloader" and "Saeta" have in common? I couldn't connect the dots. This 2 CD set is a really nicely remastered recording of everything that happened on April 22, 1961. Although there's more to Miles than club dates, I needed to hear this. It puts him into a context that I understand. Many of these solos are amazing and the sound is great. In 1961, they knew how to record in stereo and they hadn't yet messed it up with multi track recording, multi miking, and transistor amps. This quintet aimed high and connected. Music, like food, tastes best when it's prepared for a small group of people. *** & 1/2 "Drunkard's Prayer" (Over The Rhine) Karin & Linford mix it up this time. They have those soul-searching lyrics about childhood nightmares and loving through doubt. "Firefly" and "Born" are really powerful live, where the truffle-like richness and delicate sensibility routinely bring the faithful to tears. You expect that. What's new is a tarentella, for fun. "My Funny Valentine" is a bonus track where Karin pulls out the stops. She was a voice major in college so she knows a few cabaret tricks. I originally had 12 reviews and cut it to 9. Sincerely, Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY np: Patricia Barber's "Whiteworld" from "A Fortnight In France" PS, I miss Julie Z. Webb's writing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:36:08 EDT From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: The catalog, Michael Jackson..... >Other famous names in the catalog include Garth Brooks, Joni Mitchell, >The credits for her recent albums still say "Crazy Crow Music, >administered by Sony/ATV" so I think she still owns the songs and >has an administration deal with Sony. I hadn't noticed this before- >but it's in TTT, and since. Right....read the article again. It does not say MJ owns the publishing rights to Joni's songs (thank God). Joni has an arrangement with Sony, as indicated above, and Jackson has an interest there, apparently. Perhaps someone can explain this more clearly. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #112 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)