From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #102 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, April 8 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 102 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Tracks Joni mention [Richard Goldman Joni mention [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" [jrmco1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 00:26:50 -0700 From: Richard Goldman Subject: Tracks Joni mention In the latest issue, April, on stands now, www.tracksmusic.comis the website but it's not online, a article about Canadian musicians, "Go, Canada!" " ..... Buck 65 grew up on rap but developed a performaing style all his own....making him seem more storyteller than rapper. That's appropriate, give the Canadian singer/songwriter tradition, which includes Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, and Sarah McLachlan. Martha Wainwright is near-royalty, considering her pedigree as the daughter of songwriters Kate McGarrigle and Loudon Wainwright III, and as the sister of Rufus Wainwright. Yet she hardly plays the princess: Wainwright recently released a wickely entrancing EP entitled "Bloody Mother Fucking Asshole (Rounder). Her full-length debut, "Martha Wainwright (Zoe/Rounder), offers echoes of her brother's overripe choruses as well as the folkie classicism of Kate and Anna McGirrigle's recordings, yet remians utterly individual, overflowing with passion and pop hooks. ....." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 08:44:02 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Tracks Joni mention Martha did a concert the other night with list favorite Ed Harcourt in LA and they both got raves. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:26:03 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" Close, but no cigar. Chelsea Morning is on Living, 1972, but it is a live concert version, not her single/45 version that was released in early 1969 (with Pretty Polly on the flip side), before Joni's Clouds was released. Jerry > Did Judy have a hit with "Chelsea Morning" before Joni put it on > "Clouds"? I know that happened with "Both Sides Now" but I'm not so > sure with "Chelsea Morning". Maybe the Clintons had their discussion > about Chelsea Morning post-judy and pre-joni. > > I couldn't find a good discography of singles for either woman. It > looks like Fairport Convention put it on an album in '68 (which probably > isn't right), then Joni got the copyright in '69, released it on the > album CLOUDS in '69, then Judy put it on an album called "Living" in 72. > I don't have any idea when the singles were released, in which > markets, and what success each had. > > Sincerely, > Jim L'Hommedieu > > http://www.jmdl.com/lyrics/ > says "Chelsea Morning" was copywritten in '69 & > appear on the CLOUDS album, released in May 69. That agrees > with jm.com's > http://www.jonimitchell.com/jonidiscography.html > although both refer to the LP, not the single. Bob has noted the lack > of a single's discography before. > > Curiously, this site: > http://www.richieunterberger.com/folkrockdisc.html > appears to say that Fairport Convention released the song in 68, which > was before the copyright date on Les' page. > > http://www.followthemusic.com/disco3.html says: > Elektra EKS 75014 [Stereo] - Released in 1972 > "Living" - Judy Collins > Tracklist includes "Chelsea Morning" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:14:25 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" Cool! I figured if I started the ball rolling someone would nail it down. It makes sense it would be a librarian. It's neat to have experts around. So, to bring this back full circle, it is possible that Senator Clinton and President Clinton first discussed "Chelsea" after Judy had the hit and before Joni popularized her authorship by putting in on "Clouds". Sincerely, Jim np: "Freddy Freeloader" on "KIND OF BLUE", an album I discovered because so many recommended it, here on the JMDL. Jerry Notaro wrote: > Close, but no cigar. Chelsea Morning is on Living, 1972, but it is a live > concert version, not her single/45 version that was released in early 1969 > (with Pretty Polly on the flip side), before Joni's Clouds was released. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:31:45 -0400 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" Didn't the Senator from New York recount the whole thing in a videotaped tribute to Joan played during the TNT tribute? I think Hillary gave the date and also mentioned the fact they were actually in Chelsea, England when it happened. Not a New York borough. But you knew that, right? Let's go the videotape... - -Julius - -----Original Message----- From: Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu To: Jerry Notaro Cc: Joni List Sent: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:14:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Joni's "Chelsea Morning" Cool! I figured if I started the ball rolling someone would nail it down. It makes sense it would be a librarian. It's neat to have experts around. So, to bring this back full circle, it is possible that Senator Clinton and President Clinton first discussed "Chelsea" after Judy had the hit and before Joni popularized her authorship by putting in on "Clouds". Sincerely, Jim np: "Freddy Freeloader" on "KIND OF BLUE", an album I discovered because so many recommended it, here on the JMDL. Jerry Notaro wrote: > Close, but no cigar. Chelsea Morning is on Living, 1972, but it is a live > concert version, not her single/45 version that was released in early 1969 > (with Pretty Polly on the flip side), before Joni's Clouds was released. > > Jerry ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #102 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)