From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, March 29 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 092 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re;Birthday gift to Joni: a cat [Lucy Hone ] Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat [Randy Remote ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #91 [John Sprackland Subject: Re;Birthday gift to Joni: a cat Dear Jim (see below re your letter) What an interesting (if slightly unusual) thing to suggest. Her birthday is not until November, as you say, but I personally dont think any one should ever give anyone a pet unless they are sure they want one and you go and choose it with them.... To me it is a sweet thing to suggest... but it does not make sense....but then I am only one voice... I mean you do have to look after cats and I would think she maybe likes to remain fairly unfetterd by the hassle of livestock in the house... and here am I with a dog.... and he takes up a lot of time ... but I chose him and he was not thrust upon be by unknown and unintroduced strangers who thought I might like him for a gift..... Also she may not be that keen on cats anymore...(was she ever?)might like to admire them from a distance but not actually have one, Maybe she has just managed to get to a point of never having to have a cat agaion (the last one haveing gone off to meet its maker) or she may be a cat fanatic but sick to the back teeth of people thinking she might like another one when her house already stinks of cat pee and she is not sure how to cope..... We could send her a toy one... but again why would it matter to her? What I like about Joni is that she does not (seem to) crave our attention, possibly has no interest really in anything we have to say or have a care in the world for the interest we show in her work. She maybe does, but probably does not, belong to this list. She is her own person, doing her own thing, with not ( i hope) one feeling of ever having to do anything that we would or would not approve of. I still think of her as a great poet and song writer, with skills that go way way beyond some of those who are out there today..... but I would not send her a cat, a dog, a card, a letter, or even a bunch of flowers.... I would not approach her if I saw her, I would let her be and I think any form of living creature would be a huge assumption on our part, cruel to the animal, and a great invasion of her privacy.... Finally.... I always stick with the view that a dog or cat is not just for Christmas, (or Birthdays) there should always be left overs for Boxing Day (or a midnight feast).... that is why turkey is so much better.....(I AM JOKING BEFORE ANY OF YOU GET WORRIED) So sorry Jim, nice thought, but it would not get my vote... Maybe she could use a beret... Lucy on Easter monday having been shifting furniture up and down the stairs... NP the washing machine and tumble drier.... accompanied by the sound of a Kawasaki ZX6R having its engine tuned!!!! Ah blilssful English Bank Holiday afternoons....... Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:41:56 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat I know her birthday doesn't come up for awhile but what do you think? Setting aside for a second the challenge of getting permission, (which I think can be done), would it make sense to give her a cat? Lama np: my cat, Joan, munching salmon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:54:53 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Birthday gift to Joni: a cat "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > I know her birthday doesn't come up for awhile but what do you think? > > Setting aside for a second the challenge of getting permission, (which I > think can be done), would it make sense to give her a cat? A picture of a cat, yes. A real cat, no. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:53:08 +0100 From: John Sprackland Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #91 In message , Rob Ettridge writes >Hi > >As a subscriber to Word magazine from issue 1 I was pleased to see Joni on the >cover last month, but was beaten to the punch in letting the list know about >it. > >But unless I've missed it, no-one has yet reported on the follow up letters >that appeared in the April edition. The second letter has content that was >news to me at least. > >They're not long so I'll type them up here: > >"Congratulations to Jim Irvin for an article that does justice to a great >artist, just about the only songwriter of her generation who could stand toe >to toe with Bob Dylan. Though how you can justify having two tracks from >Mingus in your best twenty Joni tunes, I fail to understand. >Jo Bland." ... Yeah, I thought that too - how come only two? I'd definitely include 'Dry Cleaner', 'Boogie Man', 'Wolf' and 'Pork Pie Hat', at least... John Southport, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:18:59 +0000 From: LittleBreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time Hi, Maggie -- I can't wqit to get my hands on that book -- it sounds wonderful. All my life, I've known people -- we've all known people, who aren't stupid -- they mayt even get all A's -- but who don't seem to "get" other people. (Believe me, I've roomed with a couple of them.) Most people know of autism largely or exclusively through the movie Rain Man, which is an excellent protrayal of about 1% of all people with autism. ("High functioning".) I personally beleive that, as with everything else (including synesythesia, the ability or compulsion to see/hear/etc. one sense in terms of anothers -- "That chord sounds blue." -- and, of course, sexuality), there is no either-or, but a spectrum, possibly a multidimentional one, of all human behaviors. The trick is to be interested without condescension or fear, to be helpful where possible, and above all, to be accepting -- something I'm willing to bet the book teaches. We're all bozos on this bus. love, walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:23:53 +0000 From: LittleBreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: 2 Joni's in the top 50 -- yay Yay, Michael! Shoulda been more like ten or twenty, but at least they didn't commit a crime against humanity and omit her altogether! And they included quite a few of my other favorites, by Sarah, Gordon, Allanis, k.d., etc. best, walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:17:44 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time Walt; You said: "We're all bozos on this bus." Isn't that Firesign Theatre? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time > Hi, Maggie -- I can't wqit to get my hands on that book -- it sounds wonderful. All my life, I've known people -- we've all known people, who aren't stupid -- they mayt even get all A's -- but who don't seem to "get" other people. (Believe me, I've roomed with a couple of them.) Most people know of autism largely or exclusively through the movie Rain Man, which is an excellent protrayal of about 1% of all people with autism. ("High functioning".) I personally beleive that, as with everything else (including synesythesia, the ability or compulsion to see/hear/etc. one sense in terms of anothers -- "That chord sounds blue." -- and, of course, sexuality), there is no either-or, but a spectrum, possibly a multidimentional one, of all human behaviors. The trick is to be interested without condescension or fear, to be helpful where possible, and above all, to be accepting -- something I'm willing to bet the book teaches. > > We're all bozos on this bus. > > love, > > walt > > -- > Let the walls go tumbling down > Falling on the ground > And all the dogs go running free > The wild and gentle dogs > Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:52:00 +0000 From: LittleBreen@comcast.net Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time Brad asked: <> You betcha -- I've always liked that line. honk, honk! Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me > Walt; > You said: > "We're all bozos on this bus." > > Isn't that Firesign Theatre? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: ; > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time > > > > Hi, Maggie -- I can't wqit to get my hands on that book -- it sounds > wonderful. All my life, I've known people -- we've all known people, who > aren't stupid -- they mayt even get all A's -- but who don't seem to "get" > other people. (Believe me, I've roomed with a couple of them.) Most people > know of autism largely or exclusively through the movie Rain Man, which is > an excellent protrayal of about 1% of all people with autism. ("High > functioning".) I personally beleive that, as with everything else > (including synesythesia, the ability or compulsion to see/hear/etc. one > sense in terms of anothers -- "That chord sounds blue." -- and, of course, > sexuality), there is no either-or, but a spectrum, possibly a > multidimentional one, of all human behaviors. The trick is to be interested > without condescension or fear, to be helpful where possible, and above all, > to be accepting -- something I'm willing to bet the book teaches. > > > > We're all bozos on this bus. > > > > love, > > > > walt > > > > -- > > Let the walls go tumbling down > > Falling on the ground > > And all the dogs go running free > > The wild and gentle dogs > > Kenneled in me ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #92 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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