From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #89 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 26 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 089 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal [Claud9 ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:16:29 -0500 From: Claud9 Subject: Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal Thanks Anne, I am glad to see here that it is a fraudulent site. Wouldn't you know, I went to it, put all my info in. I only stopped short when they asked for my credit card pin. Mainly, because I don't ever use a pin for my credit card and therefore wasn't sure I had it right. And then I got a really suspicious feeling. So I opened a new browser window and went to paypal. The base url matched. Still I went to my account info and it said nothing about my account being suspended. I then sent the email on to to report a suspicious email. Whew, they almost got me apparently. How do they do it? Make it look real, with matching url - or so darn close that I didn't pick up on the difference. Thanks for the warning. I bet you many people got caught by it, as I almost did. Hugs, Claudia on 3/24/05 7:37 PM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:38:32 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal It's called Phishing, and they have been around for years. It includes please from Nigeria, lotto's from Ethiopia, and tons of banks. Their new game is to have you fill out a survey for $25.00, and then give them your bank information so they can deposit the money in your bank. You wouldn't believe hoe many people fall for it. Jerry > Thanks Anne, > I am glad to see here that it is a fraudulent site. Wouldn't you know, I > went to it, put all my info in. I only stopped short when they asked for my > credit card pin. Mainly, because I don't ever use a pin for my credit card > and therefore wasn't sure I had it right. And then I got a really suspicious > feeling. So I opened a new browser window and went to paypal. The base url > matched. Still I went to my account info and it said nothing about my > account being suspended. I then sent the email on to to report a suspicious > email. Whew, they almost got me apparently. How do they do it? Make it look > real, with matching url - or so darn close that I didn't pick up on the > difference. Thanks for the warning. I bet you many people got caught by it, > as I almost did. > > Hugs, > Claudia > > > on 3/24/05 7:37 PM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > >> Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 15:02:00 +0000 From: revrvl@comcast.net (vince) Subject: Re: Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal It is the second thime in the last several years that paypal has been used like this - so also once was ebay - Vince - -- http://www.southsiders.net - -------------- Original message -------------- > Thanks Anne, > I am glad to see here that it is a fraudulent site. Wouldn't you know, I > went to it, put all my info in. I only stopped short when they asked for my > credit card pin. Mainly, because I don't ever use a pin for my credit card > and therefore wasn't sure I had it right. And then I got a really suspicious > feeling. So I opened a new browser window and went to paypal. The base url > matched. Still I went to my account info and it said nothing about my > account being suspended. I then sent the email on to to report a suspicious > email. Whew, they almost got me apparently. How do they do it? Make it look > real, with matching url - or so darn close that I didn't pick up on the > difference. Thanks for the warning. I bet you many people got caught by it, > as I almost did. > > Hugs, > Claudia > > > on 3/24/05 7:37 PM, JMDL Digest at les@jmdl.com wrote: > > > Subject: fraudulent email looks like it's from PayPal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:50:27 +0000 From: "William Waddell" Subject: Elvis Costello's Artist's Choice CD - Joni bumph, verbatim THE LAST TIME I SAW RICHARD from the album Blue JONI MITCHELL Blue from 1971, is Joni Mitchell's most spare and haunting record, wherein she discloses her essence with candid insight akin to the greatest memoirists in literature. Recorded at A&M Studios in Los Angeles, it also featured fellow musicians James Taylor and Stephen Stills. "I recently had the wonderful experience of interviewing Joni Mitchell for a Vanity Fair article. We talked about everything under the sun for about six and a half hours. In the introduction to our conversation, I wrote about skipping off school in Liverpool, where I lived between 1970 and 1973, to go and buy a ticket for a Joni concert. I sent a message to my friend Tony Tremaco to let him know that I'd mentioned him in the article and he replied with a memory that I had not recalled. He said, 'Did you tell Joni that you came round to my house the day Blue came out because my parents were away and a group of us stayed up all night until we had memorized every word and note on the record?' I hadn't specifically remembered this but I know that I spent a remarkable amount of time listening to Joni Mitchell records, often alone in the dark. At that age I hadn't lived any of the experiences described in such remarkably candid songs but I had the idea that I might one day want to really understand what it meant to say, 'all good dreamers pass this way some day / hiding behind bottles in dark cafes.' I'd live to regret this desire." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:48:59 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: Paprika Plains, the remix 100% JC, now 99.99999% JC Hmmm. Yes. That's deep. Indeed. You get the "Julie Z. Webb Memorial Award for Literature". Here's your gold-plated copy of the "Hejira" CD, on a scarlet, velvet, neck band. Your alums (to date) are: Deb Messling, Richard Flynn, Jenny Goodspeed, Laura Stanley, Kakki, Patrick Leader, Bob Sartorius, & Em. And you know there may be more... At least 1/2 serious, Jim PS, Les Irvin is a provisional alum because he appreciates Dylan and should write more. RR and Muller are on probation for taking so many swipes at the compilations. Catherine McKay wrote: > I like that the "missing" passage is just in the > lyrics sheet and not sung. It makes the whole thing > interactive or multisensory (you hear the music and > the sung words, you look at the pictures, you read the > words and conjure up images in your head). You can > read it to yourself while the orchestral interlude is > playing. In a strange way, I think it helps you > recognize that it's not just the words in the song, > but the way of life, that is missing. > > NP Gemma Hayes: Today I ran for miles > Catherine > Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:51:25 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: nothing but Joni stories ... or whatever else you want It's new! Check it out: http://www.topix.net/who/joni-mitchell Or just go to << http://www.topix.net >> and put in any subject you'd like to spend eons reading about. You can get news for your own city, too. This was sent to me by the president of my senior class in high school, so you know it comes with the Smurf hometown seal of approval. << http://www.topix.net/city/belmont-ma >> - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:41:49 EST From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #135 OK my two cents and sense. This discussion should be about what happens to women when the starve themselves. Terri got this way through an eating disorder one of the biggest detriments to womankind. She had an eating disorder that was uncaught and swept under the rug. Millions of women everyday, are anorexic or bulimic, and do it for years and years striping their bodies of vital nutrients, creating havoc on their hearts, lungs, livers, kidneys, and throats. That is what this discussion should be about. Her husband says she indicated to him she did not want to live this way had it come up. Well, it did, and he is caring that out. I could care less if he is with another woman or has kids. I could care less.Her parents should be talking about eating disorders and helping young women to stop it, find themselves esteem through other ways besides pleasing the male eye, or society's eye. Women are driven to do this, and learn it way to early. Joni knows it, has written about it cryptically. So, take the focus off her husband, who seems like a decent guy, and do some good here. She deserves more than this. This is inhumane. Death may not be. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:43:16 EST From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #135 Oh, I initiated the end of my own father's life in 97. It was the most human thing we could do for him. He was miserable. Done in a hospital with narcotics, peaceful and over in less than 24 hours. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:44:15 -0500 From: Reuben Bell Subject: Re: Paprika Plains, the remix 100% JC, now 99.99999% JC Whatever Happened To Julie Z. Webb. Is she still around here somewhere? Reuben On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:48:59 -0500, Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > Hmmm. Yes. That's deep. Indeed. > > You get the "Julie Z. Webb Memorial Award for Literature". Here's your > gold-plated copy of the "Hejira" CD, on a scarlet, velvet, neck band. > > Your alums (to date) are: Deb Messling, Richard Flynn, Jenny Goodspeed, > Laura Stanley, Kakki, Patrick Leader, Bob Sartorius, & Em. And you know > there may be more... > > At least 1/2 serious, > Jim > > PS, Les Irvin is a provisional alum because he appreciates Dylan and > should write more. RR and Muller are on probation for taking so many > swipes at the compilations. > > Catherine McKay wrote: > > I like that the "missing" passage is just in the > > lyrics sheet and not sung. It makes the whole thing > > interactive or multisensory (you hear the music and > > the sung words, you look at the pictures, you read the > > words and conjure up images in your head). You can > > read it to yourself while the orchestral interlude is > > playing. In a strange way, I think it helps you > > recognize that it's not just the words in the song, > > but the way of life, that is missing. > > > > NP Gemma Hayes: Today I ran for miles > > Catherine > > Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:53:10 +0000 From: Littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: Erika Luckett: Kindness, and Scales to Feathers (sjc) Hi gang: I know I've sung Erika Luckett's praises before (she and Patti Witten and Sarah Holcombe make up my personal trio of undersung (undercelebrated?) musical heroes), but I recently got Erika's two most recent albums (The New Orleans Sessions, and Unexpected) in the mail not long ago, and wanted to share two lyrics with you, my favorite virtual group. Then I went and lost the booklet to The New Orleans Sessions for four weeks, and was foiled in my plans -- until yesterday, when I found it (yay! -- I was working up the nerve to ask Erika if she had any extra booklets lying around, or thinking of just ordering another copy of the CD, and giving the bookless CD to someone else -- hey, gift horse, people!). I wanted to quote two lyrics, one because it *so* reflects my ethos and approach to life. It's called Kindness: Kindness He came to me with a challening grin and his fingers wrapped around his drink. In the mood for a little argument, he asked me what i think "But no, no, not yet," he said. "No, no, not yet." He said, The world is divided into weak and strong. There's good and bad, right and wrong. Don't trust the ones who sit on fences... They're either with us or against us." Well, I'm a child of many worlds and if I had to choose just one, I'd say my home is the planet that circles around the sun It's like a ship and we're on it for a ride at the end of the night we're all on the same side. We may be different in the ways we think but if we don't hang together the ship is gonna sink So I beleive in kindness I believe in simple things I beleive in the preciousness of all beings I beleive in tomorrow despite the troubles we face Because I believe in the human race. We learn to measure power by how hard we push, how hard we shove, when our greatest strength is our capacity to love. I believe in kindness... Copywright 2002 Erika Luckett and Birdfish Music Boy, that kind of says it all, doesn't it? It is, at least, what I aspire to. There are two versions of this lovely song on the N.O. album, one opens the record (which is mostly just Erika and her guitar), and the other, more of a gospelly version with friends joining in closes the album (not listed in the credits). And speaking of "BirdFish", there is a song by that very name on the same CD: BirdFish Maybe I'm a fish in the sky or a bird in the sea Separate visions, separate homes Scales to feathers and ins to wings Funny how things decide who we are, where we belong I belong to all, I belong to none. I belong to all and i belong to none. Maybe I'm a shadow at night or a face in a dream. I'm the face you remember until you wake up. I'm somehow imagined but never quite seen. Funny how things decide who we are, where we belong. I belong to all, I belong to none. I belong to all and I belong to none. My street's the street that has a hundred names. My block's the one where the neighbors always change. The air I breathe never quite feels the same. Maybe it's because, maybe because I'm just a fish in the sky I'm a bird in the sea Separate visions, separate homes Scales to feathers and fins to wings. Copyright 2002 by Erika Luckett and Birdfish Music Nice, and rings a bell, too doesn't it? I'm sending a copy of this note to Erika with the lyrics to DJRD, to ask if she was aware of the song, or just the Jungian subconcious of two brilliant women using similar metaphor. Oh, what the heck, here's the lyrics to Don Juan's Reckless Daughter, to save y'all having to look it up if it's not at your fingertips: DON JUAN'S RECKLESS DAUGHTER (Copyright 1977, Joni Mitchell) I'm Don Juan's reckless daughter I came out two days on your tail Those two bald-headed days in November Before the first snowflakes sail Out on the vast and subtle plains of mystery A split tongue spirit talks Noble as a nickel chief Striking up an old juke box And he says: "Snakes along the railroad tracks." He says, "Eagles in jet trails ..." He says, "Coils around feathers and talons on scales ... Gravel under the belly plates ..." He says, "Wind in the Wings ..." He says, "Big bird dragging its tail in the dust ... Snake kite flying on a string." I come from open prairie Given some wisdom and a lot of jive! Last night the ghosts of my old ideas Reran on channel five And it howled so spooky for its eagle soul I nearly broke down and cried But the split tongue spirit laughed at me He says, "Your serpent cannot be denied." Our serpents love the whisky bars They love the romance of the crime But didn't I see a neon sign Fester on your hotel blind And a country road come off the wall And swoop down at the crowd at the bar And put me at the top of your danger list Just for being so much like you are! You're a coward against the altitude-- You're a coward against the flesh-- Coward--caught between yes and no Reckless this time on the line for yes, yes, yes! Reckless brazen in the play Of your changing traffic lights Coward--slinking down the hall to another restless night As we center behind the eight ball As we rock between the sheets As we siphon the colored language Off the farms and the streets Here in Good-Old-God-Save-America the home of the brave and the free We are all hopelessly oppressed cowards Of some duality Of restless multiplicity (Oh say can you see) Restless for streets and honky tonks Restless for home and routine Restless for country-safety-and her Restless for the likes of reckless me Restless sweeps like fire and rain Over virgin wilderness It prowls like hookers and thieves Through bolt locked tenements Behind my bolt locked door The eagle and the serpent are at war in me The serpent fighting for blind desire The eagle for clarity What strange prizes these battles bring These hectic joys-these weary blues Puffed up and strutting when I think I win Down and shaken when I think I lose There are rivets up here in this eagle There are box cars down there on your snake And we are twins of spirit No matter which route home we take Or what we forsake We're going to come up to the eyes of clarity And we'll go down to the beads of guile There is danger and education In living out such a reckless life style I touched you on the central plains It was plane to train my twin It was just plane shadow to train shadow But to me it was skin to skin The spirit talks in spectrums He talks to mother earth to father sky Self indulgence to self denial Man to woman Scales to feathers You and I Eagles in the sky You and I Snakes in the grass You and I Crawl and fly You and I In the meantime: *All* of Erika's albums are wonderful, and I cannot encourage you strongly enough to seek them out. Her website is, not surprisingly, www.erikaluckett.com I'll let you know what she tells me of being aware of Joni's DJRD, which slipped by a lot of people's notice (not mine -- it's still my favorite). Kindness, my bunnies, and I'll try to hold back on my thunderhead of judgement on crowded buses (okay, just yesterday, I did it again -- an elderly man with a cane was raising hell because he had to give up his removeable seat to a person in a wheelchair, who was graciously ignoring the other man's nasty comments; I finally had enough and said *loudly*, "Jesus, can't we all please just pretend we're *nice*?" It worked, but I'm afraid soon there may be an alert out on me, and i won't be allowed on buses anymore -- although it seems to me *I'm* not the one with problems... love to all, walt Walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 05:32:27 +0000 From: Littlebreen@comcast.net Subject: [none] Lama said: <> I tried going there -- be careful people: My computer froze up and I had to shut down to get back on line. The goddess Ashara must be pissed off. God knows I am, with all that's happening in the world. But I believe in kindness. And scales to feather and fins to skin. Or whatever. love, walt - -- Let the walls go tumbling down Falling on the ground And all the dogs go running free The wild and gentle dogs Kenneled in me ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:02:18 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: RE: Sorry about that, Walt. I didn't test it before I sent it. I just tried it on my PC, it opens a dialog box which I closed without a problem. Again, sorry to cause you a hassle. All the best, Jim np: the self-titled "Paul Simon", from very long ago, back in the late 20th century Lama said: <> Walt said, >I tried going there -- be careful people: My computer froze up and I had to shut down to get back on line. The goddess Ashara must be pissed off. God knows I am, with all that's happening in the world. But I believe in kindness. And scales to feather and fins to skin. Or whatever.> ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #89 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)