From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #79 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, March 18 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 079 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" [Garret ] RE: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" ["Richard Flynn" ] Joni Tribute in Grass Valley California this weekend [Brian Gross ] Re: Sacrilege [Em ] Re: Sacrilege ["Cynthia Vickery" ] RE: Sacrilege ["Ross, Les" ] RE: Sacrilege ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: Sacrilege [Em ] Re: Sacrilege [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Sacrilege ["Azeem" ] RE: Sacrilege ["Azeem" ] Re: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Tribute in Grass Valley California this weekend [Bob Muller ] Re: Sacrilege [Bob Muller ] Re: Sacrilege [Bill Dollinger ] Re: Sacrilege [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Sacrilege [Catherine McKay ] Song for sharin', or buy yourself a mando, Lynn [Catherine McKay ] Kiss my ax, I said [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:12:23 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" Hi Bob, thanks for posting this link. I had never heard of this. It is always very interesting to hear that young Joni voice singing something she didn't write. Speaking of Joni covering..... I was thinking last night about BSN (i couldn't sleep) and what an odd departure for Joni this was. I remember being very excited about a Joni release (it was her first release post me becoming a fan and joining this list), and then being a bit disappointed by it (although this was compounded by the fact that Patti Smith's Gung Ho was out about the same time and i really loved that). But my thinking didn't get any more sophisticated than that. I fell asleep and dreamt taht a friend's mother turned into an owl. Too much Phillip Pullman! GARRET Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:31:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" Old news for most of us, but maybe some of you out there haven't heard this recording. http://monkeyfilter.com/results.php?type=search&in=threads&terms=%22joni+mitchell%22 Once on the page, click on: Grateful Dead vs Joni Mitchell and the song should start playing. There's a little history about the song as well. Bob NP: Drive-By Truckers, "Goddamn Lonely Love" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:29:41 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" Speaking of Philip Pullman, he's just wont the Astrid Lindgren Award: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/books/03/16/literature.prize.ap/ Philip is on the children's lit. listserv I belong to, and, as you can imagine, he's pretty thrilled! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:12 AM To: scjoniguy@yahoo.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" Hi Bob, thanks for posting this link. I had never heard of this. It is always very interesting to hear that young Joni voice singing something she didn't write. Speaking of Joni covering..... I was thinking last night about BSN (i couldn't sleep) and what an odd departure for Joni this was. I remember being very excited about a Joni release (it was her first release post me becoming a fan and joining this list), and then being a bit disappointed by it (although this was compounded by the fact that Patti Smith's Gung Ho was out about the same time and i really loved that). But my thinking didn't get any more sophisticated than that. I fell asleep and dreamt taht a friend's mother turned into an owl. Too much Phillip Pullman! GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:28:36 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Judy Collins Quote Judy Collins: "Jo Stafford is one of the greatest singers of all time. Her recording of "Barbara Allen" changed my views from Mozart to 'Both Sides Now'" Jerry np: Dana Owens - California Dreaming9 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:16:25 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Joni Tribute in Grass Valley California this weekend Just a reminder for those of you with access to the Sacramento CA area: WOMAN OF HEART AND MIND: Saul Rayo, and a host of other talented musicians, will pay tribute to folk singer Joni Mitchell. 8pm F 3/18 and Sa 3/19, and 2pm Su 3/20; $18. The Center for the Arts, 314 Main St. in Grass Valley, (530) 274-8384, www.thecenterforthearts.org. later, my friends. Brian in south jersey, where it might be spring soon :-) Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got till it's gone --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:42:49 -0000 From: "Ric Robinson" Subject: Sacrilege I don't like Woodstock. There, I've said it. I feel much better now, thanks. (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) Ric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:58:07 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Sacrilege - --- Ric Robinson wrote: > I don't like Woodstock. > > There, I've said it. I feel much better now, thanks. > (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) hehehhh.... I'm no fan of "Twisted", I must confess. My eyes tend to roll into the back of my head. :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:04:53 -0600 From: "Cynthia Vickery" Subject: Re: Sacrilege << Which is your least favourite Joni track?>> discounting most of BSN and T'long (blech! pa-tttttoooey!), my least favorite track is "yvette in english." i don't know why i dislike that thing so intensely, other than that i find the little "yvette!"s scattered thruout most annoying. les ross did a lovely version of the song at a jonifest that almost made me like the blasted thing, though! cindy, who can guarantee "dancin' clown" will be mentioned more than once in this thread! _______________________________ RIC - don't give up on me. starbucks hates me, but i'm nothing if not persistent! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:11:06 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Sacrilege Lead Balloon. Deeply deeply flawed. Dancin' Clown Deeply deeply misguided. Ray's Dad's Cadillac Just instantly annoying. Twisted, for me, is like an amusing ancecdote that gets 'old' quickly in the retelling. The 'charm' half-life of songs in this style (clever/humourous) is precipitously brief - imo. Still, it's carried off with class. Again imo. Les (london) - --- Ric Robinson wrote: > I don't like Woodstock. - -----Original Message----- From: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] I'm no fan of "Twisted", I must confess. My eyes tend to roll into the back of my head. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:20:20 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Sacrilege "Twisted," like "Centerpiece," is Lambert, Hendricks and Ross anyway, so it doesn't count, does it? I absolutely can't stand "Sex Kills" - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Ross, Les Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:11 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Sacrilege Lead Balloon. Deeply deeply flawed. Dancin' Clown Deeply deeply misguided. Ray's Dad's Cadillac Just instantly annoying. Twisted, for me, is like an amusing ancecdote that gets 'old' quickly in the retelling. The 'charm' half-life of songs in this style (clever/humourous) is precipitously brief - imo. Still, it's carried off with class. Again imo. Les (london) - --- Ric Robinson wrote: > I don't like Woodstock. - -----Original Message----- From: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] I'm no fan of "Twisted", I must confess. My eyes tend to roll into the back of my head. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:32:16 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: RE: Sacrilege you know what tho? I hope we don't get busted for bitching... cuz thats how the "Stills having a baby at 80" thread started - innocently enough, annoyance humorously expressed at (some) older wealthy men and their many layers of younger wives and various strata of children, and look how serious (and I think kinda negative in the end) it turned out! Wouldn't want that I don't think. For me I'm hoping this remains a humorous thread.... because it *is* possible to bitch with humor at what makes us gag. And we do it really well around here when its not squashed like a bug from being misunderstood. ...at's all! :) Em - --- "Ross, Les" wrote: > Lead Balloon. > Deeply deeply flawed. > > Dancin' Clown > Deeply deeply misguided. > > Ray's Dad's Cadillac > Just instantly annoying. > > Twisted, for me, is like an amusing ancecdote that gets 'old' quickly > in the > retelling. The 'charm' half-life of songs in this style > (clever/humourous) > is precipitously brief - imo. Still, it's carried off with class. > Again imo. > > > Les (london) > > > --- Ric Robinson wrote: > > I don't like Woodstock. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Em [mailto:emzdogz@yahoo.com] > I'm no fan of "Twisted", I must confess. My eyes tend to roll into > the back > of my head. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:34:56 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Sacrilege > (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) God Must Be A Boogie Man A Chair In The Sky The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Sweet Sucker Dance The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:38:30 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Sacrilege Cynthia put it unimprovably: << discounting most of BSN and T'long (blech! pa-tttttoooey!) >> I shall similarly omit those two sets from consideration; most of Wild Things Run Fast leaves me colder than frozen turkey (to quote the excellent Amy Winehouse, blasting out of my stereo as I type this), but I don't actively dislike any of the songs. So, least favourite Joni song would have to be - and yes, it's an obvious, easy target - Dancin' Clown. It just sucks on every level. Azeem in London NP: Amy Winehouse - You Sent Me Flying - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:39:53 -0000 From: "Azeem" Subject: RE: Sacrilege Jerry wrote: > (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) << God Must Be A Boogie Man A Chair In The Sky The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Sweet Sucker Dance The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Goodbye Pork Pie Hat >> I'm sensing a theme here, Jerry, can't quite put my finger on it... Azeem in London - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's cover of "Me & My Uncle" Garret wrote: Ditto for me on both counts (Patti & BSN) - can you imagine if this technology/ discussion list was around when Joni was in her prime? Discussing C&S, HOSL, Hejira, etc. as they came out? Bob NP: Jennifer Trynin, "Go Ahead" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:27:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Tribute in Grass Valley California this weekend Brian Gross wrote: And if you're in the Ithaca, NY area, Patti Witten & Sue McNamara are hosting an "Only-Joni" Open Mic at Juna's Cafe on April 2nd. http://www.pattiwitten.com/fans4.html Bob, who thinks that spring has left the building NP: The Rolling Stones, "Blinded By Love" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:34:14 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Sacrilege Cynthia Vickery wrote: > << Which is your least favourite Joni track?>> > > discounting most of BSN and T'long (blech! pa-tttttoooey!), my > least favorite track is "yvette in english." > i don't know why i dislike that thing so intensely, other than > that i find the little "yvette!"s scattered thruout most > annoying. Have you heard David Crosby's version? I think it's very nice. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:30:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sacrilege Ric Robinson wrote: I don't like Woodstock.> But which one, Ric - all of them? I actually like them all but think that the Shadows & Light version is THE bomb. Bob, who doesn't need to say which is his least fave NP: REM, "Losing My Religion" Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:32:06 -0500 From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: Sacrilege So I take it you are okay with I's a Muggin. ;-) bill On Mar 17, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Jerry Notaro wrote: >> (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) > > God Must Be A Boogie Man > A Chair In The Sky > The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey > Sweet Sucker Dance > The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines > Goodbye Pork Pie Hat > > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:55:55 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Sacrilege Yes, the S & L! LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:41:28 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Sacrilege Them's fightin' words, Notaro! Put up your dukes and be prepared to defend yourself! I'm not crazy about any of the songs that have been covered more than 500 times, including by la Joan herself. But then again, what would Muller do without them? Jerry Notaro wrote: > (Which is your least favourite Joni track?) God Must Be A Boogie Man A Chair In The Sky The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Sweet Sucker Dance The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Jerry Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:48:24 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Song for sharin', or buy yourself a mando, Lynn Went to Acoustic Guitar's website and did a search on "nail repair", because I keep wrecking my fingernails and it's hard to play guitar without them, and for some bizarro reason, look what turned up. Some of you have already heard this story, but some likely have not. Others, like those of us who are aging rapidly, forget, so every day is brand new. This is from a Q and A: http://www.acousticguitar.com/issues/ag52/dear52.html#JONI%20MITCHELL I was listening the other day to Joni Mitchell's Hejira album, and I was struck by these lines in "Song for Sharon": "I went to Staten Island, Sharon / To buy myself a mandolin / And I saw the long white dress of love / On a store-front mannequin." Now, I've been listening to this album for years, but it just now occurred to me that these lyrics may refer to the Mandolin Brothers store in Staten Island. Is this the case? Did Joni Mitchell go buy a mandolin there sometime in the '70s? What did she buy? Am I crazy for even wondering about this stuff? Elaine Camero Boston, Massachusetts Stan Jay, president of Mandolin Brothers, would like to assure you that you are not crazy, and that he has been asked this question many times over the years. Joni Mitchell did indeed make a trip to his store on Staten Island in 1976, where she bought a Gibson K-4 mandocello, built around 1915. It is a large (guitar-sized) version of the Gibson F-4 mandolin and is tuned C G D A, one octave below a mandola. On the same trip, she also bought a circa 1915 Martin 000-28 herringbone guitar. It was during the ferry ride back to New York City from Staten Island that she began writing "Song for Sharon." - --Bronwen Morgan Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sacrilege, now covers...joy! Pay my son's college tuition? Luckily, none over 500...yet. BSN is on quite a tear, though. Les & I had a sidebet going, he said I'd hit 400 in April, I said August. Both of us were wrong - I hit 400 this month, and there's a couple I haven't posted yet. The latest, just added today, is from New Zealand cutie Haley Westenra, who features the track on her new DVD coming out in May. Bob NP: X, "Devil Doll" Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:53:53 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Kiss my ax, I said More stuff found on the Acoustic Guitar site whilst trying to do anything but the work for which they pays me. Suddenly realizing what VG stands for... JONI MITCHELL'S STAGE AX Q. Does Joni Mitchell still play Martin guitars live on stage? Gus Di Bella Buenos Aires, Argentina A The Roland VG-8 has replaced Mitchell's Martin. The acoustic Martin rarely joins Joni Mitchell on stage these days. She plays in a profusion of alternate tunings-as many as 90 different variations. Many of these tunings work great in the controlled environment of the recording studio but fail miserably under the rigors of touring. Extra-low tunings are particularly hard to manage on stage. Add to that the hassle of trying to tune an acoustic guitar between every number and you have a formula for public frustration. For several years now Mitchell has solved her on-stage tuning dilemma by using modern digital processing technology. With the Roland VG-8 Virtual Guitar she is able to change tunings at the flick of a switch. The strings themselves stay in standard tuning, but the tuning coming out of the speakers varies according to her needs. To accommodate the Roland unit Mitchell uses either a Parker Fly or custom electric guitar built by Fred Walecki. For more information on the Roland guitar processor, go to www.rolandus.com. - -Paul Kotapish Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! 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