From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #71 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, March 10 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 071 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Randy Remote ] Re: A Case of You - A Question [Randy Remote ] Re: Joni Songbook [Rdalindley@aol.com] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Randy Remote ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Randy Remote ] Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Wigstock [Michael Paz ] Re: Wigstock [Gary Z ] Re: Oh...my...god... and the first-3-albums songbook (sjc) [Michael Paz <] Songs of a Prairie Girl ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Steely Dan [Michael Paz ] Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? [Melissa Gi] RE: Steely Dan ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Steely Dan [Michael Paz ] Re: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? [Bob Mu] Re: Joni Songbook [Catherine McKay ] Nash [jrmco1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:20:27 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > Bob Muller wrote: > > > Randy Remote wrote: > > > > > How many of her songs are "about the province"? > > > > > Well, I'm assuming that any song with Canada content will > > qualify? Song For Sharon with its reference to Maidstone, > > Coyote with a reference to Baljennie...and I guess there's > > more, If the criteria is passing mention, then there can be endless compilations based on endless themes. I will suggest that there is more material for a nylon stocking themed CD than a Canadian one.... At some point, all of her material will be rereleased in some new collection. Is this a good thing? For years, she refused to release a greatest hits collection, saying it would kill her catalog. Now she's doing it herself. It's not comforting to think some newbie in a record store would pass over Hejira for Dreamland, or SOAPG. Some of the songs must be in several of the compilations by now. Please put this energy into a real boxset of rarities and live cuts, JM! If you need help, call! RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:24:41 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: A Case of You - A Question Matt Mc wrote: > I've got a dumb question about "A Case of You." How > does Joni get that cool sound on the intro? Is that a > mandolin, dobro, banjo, banjitar/guitjo, etc. or just > some kind of cool picking technique (like picking at > the very end of the string right on the bridge). A 4 string dulcimer, as Richard said- the distinctive sound is due to the much smaller size than a guitar, and the drone strings. > I'm > sure it's an alt. tuning since this IS Joni, but any > insights you have would help. I just love that sound, > especially from the intro. Very distinctive. Plus > the song is wonderful. I could imagine a lot of other > arrangements that would be coo, but nothing could be > better that this. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:46:47 -0500 From: Rdalindley@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Songbook Here's the info that I have on this songbook: It's titled "The Music of Joni Mitchell" - and the cover art is the same self-portrait used on "Clouds" It was published in 1969 and it's card catalog number is: 70-107630 Songs included are: Both Sides Now Cactus Tree Carnival in Kenora Chelsea Morning Dawntreader Fiddle and the Drum The Gallery I Don't Know Where I Stand I Had a King I Think I Understand Jeremy Ladies of the Canyon A Melody in Your Name Marcie Michael from the Mountains Moon in the Mirror Nathan LaFraneer Night in the City The Pirates of Penance Poor Sad Baby The Priest Song Roses Blue Sisotowbell Lane Song to a Seagull Songs to Aging Children Come Straw-Flower Me That Song About the Midway Tin Angel Who Has Seen The Wind Winter Lady I purchased mine on Ebay about 3 years ago. Let me know if any of these are songs you were looking for. Rob Lindley in the blue tv screen light ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:01:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl Jerry Notaro wrote: > Though if it contains a totally remastered Paprika Plains I would buy it. It's already available remastered-the HDCD version of DJRD. If you mean with the strings or piano digitally retuned, that would be a full remix. I would rather they didn't, and would bet they won't. But if they do, I would probably buy it, too. As someone said, the off tuning gives it a dreamlike quality that I don't find offensive, it's part of the piece. If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson with the rock band blasting all around. RR (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:09:55 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl I have Both Sides Now in 5.1 and DVD Audio and it sounds great on my surround set up. Jerry > If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? > For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear > Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson > with the rock band blasting all around. > RR > (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:12:34 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > Jerry Notaro wrote: > >> Though if it contains a totally remastered Paprika Plains I would buy it. > > It's already available remastered-the HDCD version of DJRD. > If you mean with the strings or piano digitally retuned, that would be > a full remix. Semantics. Many remasterings include new mixes. And, yes, that is what I meant. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 11:29:04 -0800 From: Randy Remote Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl That is one album I don't want to hear in greater detail! Jerry Notaro wrote: > I have Both Sides Now in 5.1 and DVD Audio and it sounds great on my > surround set up. > > Jerry > > > If they are going to all that trouble, why not do a surround sound mix? > > For that matter, why not do a surround CD anyway? I'd love to hear > > Cotton Ave with the voices swirling around, or Raised on Robertson > > with the rock band blasting all around. > > RR > > (Not that I have a surround system, but it would be a good reason to get one) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:43:16 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Songs of a Prairie Girl > That is one album I don't want to hear in greater detail! Not one of my favorites either, Randy. The the 5.1 mix places Joni more onstage and in the middle of the orchestra than the stereo mix. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:50:31 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Wigstock Is this in DVD release. You made me sad to think of dear old Kenny. So many wonderful evenings on Ashara's back porch smoking fags and singing songs with Kenny and the gang. Love Paz NP-Did you Ever Love A Woman-Rufus Thomas-just because I'm leavin'.... (Due out April 26, 2005) > Finally got to see Wigstock last night. Though I have never been, I have met > (and partied) with a few of the luminaries in it. What a surprise to see > John Kelly in the movie. He had on his Joni bangs wig and sang Wigstock is > his highest falsetto. We had a mini Joni gathering a few years back to see > Lady Bunny9s tribute to Dusty Springfield at The Fez. It was the last time I > saw Kenny Grant. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:30:34 -0500 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: Wigstock Hi Michael, I found it listed here: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=movie&pid=5740320&cart=234623715 Best regards, Gary Michael Paz wrote: >Is this in DVD release. You made me sad to think of dear old Kenny. So many >wonderful evenings on Ashara's back porch smoking fags and singing songs >with Kenny and the gang. > >Love > >Paz > >NP-Did you Ever Love A Woman-Rufus Thomas-just because I'm leavin'.... >(Due out April 26, 2005) > > > >>Finally got to see Wigstock last night. Though I have never been, I have met >>(and partied) with a few of the luminaries in it. What a surprise to see >>John Kelly in the movie. He had on his Joni bangs wig and sang Wigstock is >>his highest falsetto. We had a mini Joni gathering a few years back to see >>Lady Bunny9s tribute to Dusty Springfield at The Fez. It was the last time I >>saw Kenny Grant. >> >>Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:46:34 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Oh...my...god... and the first-3-albums songbook (sjc) Walt- Come on dawg you know you remember when you wanted it to be slow and last forever huh???? Now you want the speed thing and for it to be over quick huh huh huh ???? Paz (still enjoying your posts) NP Still Rufus > Hi all, > > After three xcruciating months of computer trouble, i now have a > semi-functioning Mac G-3 and, as of this afternoon... D...S...L!!!! Still > some bugs to > work out, but I'm giving you all fair warning -- I'll probably be spending > more > time online now. > > Oh, also, I got a somewhat weather-beaten Joni songbook in the mail today, > the one of the first three albums -- i had hoped it was the earlier version, > that had about, what, 6 or 8 of the early NON-album songs, but no dice -- is > there anyone who has that book (they were one of the raffle items at the '03 > fest) > who'd be willing to trade just those songs for some other sheet music. I > don't have anything that unusual, but maybe -- anyway, there's always > Ghirardelli's or See's chocolates. > > If you have the songs and are interested, please contact me off-list. I'm > keeping AOL, for now, anyway, so I'll be at this address. > > D...S...L!!!! (I know, it's like I'm the first one to discover sex or > something, but I'd just gotten used to 56K!) > > Best to all, > > Walt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:47:39 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Songs of a Prairie Girl Dude, there are plenty. There's one about the Broadway bridge, that one about Harlem in Havana, that song about the midway, and I'm not even breaking a sweat. If you're looking for a current songwriter, with a voice of an angel, an attitude, yet is also drop-dead hot, check out Karin Berquist of "Over The Rhine". She's "the new Joni Mitchell". Ducking for cover, Lama RR, which doesn't stand for Roy Rogers, said, >JONI, STOP THIS MADNESS!! How many of her songs are "about the province"? Approximately none, though there are passing mentions in a few, Paprika Plains probably has the most..> edit< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:49:20 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Steely Dan Respectfully DISAGREE!! Sorry! It really easy HIS band. I think Croz might tell you that as well. I hear that at a gig in Italy last week Croz was deathly ill and between Nash and Raymond it was still an amazing set. It's just the perception of Croz's largeness. LOL Love Paz NP-Trouble in Mind-Rufus Thomas > There's a semi related article about Crosby's son's band at: > http://crosbycpr.com/content/features/features_text/Goldmine_99.html > > that is cpr, (it is not crosby's son's band).. cpr is one of my fav bands > for years... yes peev is an amazing guitar player ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:26:56 +1100 From: Melissa Gibbs Subject: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? I just picked myself up a copy of the "Come in From the Cold" video from ebay. I was highly amused by the video "Dancing Clown" (but not the song - take a breather Bob!). I kept screaming to the video "what the hell is she doing to that poor cat!" Has anyone seen it? What's with the cat? Melissa in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 18:01:14 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Steely Dan I was thinking he meant james's band as in something apart from DC... but you are right james is a musician who has garnered respect for his musical accomplishments prior to cpr... & should be viewed as such >Respectfully DISAGREE!! Sorry! It really easy HIS band. I think Croz might tell you that as well. I hear that at a gig in Italy last week Croz was deathly ill and between Nash and Raymond it was still an amazing set. It's just the perception of Croz's largeness. LOL Love Paz< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:01:18 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Steely Dan Hi Howard I agree! I am a huge fan of FTR as well as CaS. I worked with tom Scott at a Corporate gig recently in New Orleans where he was the musical director with the Funk Brothers for a show featuring many of the singers from the movie as well as other singers hired for the private show. Great cat. I wish I would have had the balls to go over and sit with him at lunch and talk about his past. But I am too respectful of folks I respect (the rest of you WATCH OUT) Love Paz NP-American Idol > One other Joni-Steely Dan connection that I didn't see mentioned: Tom Scott. > He played and did wind/brass arrangements on a number of their albums, but > it's his work on Steely Dan's Aja and Joni's For The Roses that stand out to > me. > > His arrangements made immeasurable contributions to these two albums. > Neither would have been the same without him - he turned music that was > already superb into something just out of this world. He seems to have had > such amazing good taste, to be able to add touches with his arrangements > that highlight, support and add interest to the music without ever > dominating. A master! > > Howard > > > Rob Steen wrote: > >> Quote: >> >> "Fagen & Becker were the best writers IMO during that rock jazz-influenced >> music of the late 70s early 80s. Joni was well into her jazz period then >> and she probably acknowledged them for the >brilliant artists they were. >> There's such a sophistication in Steely Dan's music that's not unlike >> Joni's. Have their paths never crossed?" > >> A hearty 'yeah' to that rationale. Their paths certainly appear to have >> crossed only through >> sessioneers and guests: Wayne Shorter; Larry Carlton; Victor Feldman (who >> played on Hissing and Countdown to Ecstasy, the uppermost of the seven SD >> albums in my top 50!); Pat Metheny went on tour with Joni and performed a >> gorgeous version of Sign In Stranger with Don Fagen. I've another couple >> of theories, though. 1) The fraternal Becker-Fagen dynamic would never >> allow a third party to do any more than twiddle the odd knob (a la Gary >> Katz); 2) for all their myriad virtues, Becker and Fagen don't seem to >> have a terribly high opinion of >women. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 18:04:56 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Come in From the Cold video - What's she doing to that cat??? I thought she was just kind of dancing around with it, Melissa - I've only seen it once or twice. I do enjoy the video, it helps to take my mind off the song, and it's fun-filled UNLIKE the song which just lays there like a puddle of cat vomit with a Billy Idol hairball in it. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "I'll Take New York" Melissa Gibbs wrote: I just picked myself up a copy of the "Come in From the Cold" video from ebay. I was highly amused by the video "Dancing Clown" (but not the song - take a breather Bob!). I kept screaming to the video "what the hell is she doing to that poor cat!" Has anyone seen it? What's with the cat? Melissa in Sydney Yahoo! 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Let me > know if any of these are songs you were looking for. > > Rob Lindley > in the blue tv screen light I have it too, Walt. I had one when it first came out that my sister lent to a so-called friend that never gave it back (it was MY book, dammit! not hers to lend, but I digress... and I thought I never held a grudge!) I also got one off E-Bay a couple of years ago. I'll be happy to copy any pages you like and either send them to you in the mail, fax 'em to ya, scan 'em and e-mail 'em, whatEVAH. Or you may get lucky and find one on E-Bay. You're probably looking to get the piano arrangements, which aren't bad, but aren't great either. But I'm sure you can use them as the basis to create your own arrangement which I'm sure would be very good, because I know you can play. Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 02:07:30 -0500 From: jrmco1@aol.com Subject: Nash I recommend that you guys should take a look at Graham Nash's photography exhibit on his web site at: www.GrahamNash.com - if you haven't checked it out. An indescribable sensation to see a photo of Joan taken during her Blue era. (Blue. What a masterpiece. Don't get me started.) Graham captures her beautifully "listening to music." "Every picture has its shadows and it has some source of light..." Was she talking photography, painting or either/both? And who took the photo that became the cover of Blue anyway, ya'll? I forgot. - -Julius ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #71 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)