From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #57 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 24 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 057 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Starbucks [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Joni's unpoularity [colin ] Re: Joni's unpoularity [tian zhang ] Re: Joni's unpoularity [tantra_apso ] Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #87 [JSerkes@aol.com] Re: Joni's unpoularity [Em ] Have you guys seen this? !!! ["Steven Polifka" ] Re: Have you guys seen this? !!! [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: our own survivor, joni's on island ["McMillan Brad" ] Would you touch Bob Dylan with a ten foot pole? ["c Karma" ] Doug Meek alert!! Set your radio dials y'all [Bob Muller ] Re: Starbucks [Doug ] Re: Joni's unpopularity [Bob Muller ] Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #85 [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Joni's unpopularity ["Mark or Travis" ] JIMMMMMMM [JSerkes@aol.com] RE: Starbucks now sjc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #88 [BRYAN8847@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 20:46:57 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Starbucks Hey Gus. I am admitting something here for the first time; I agree with you about Starbucks. They have a similar reputation here in Australia. I tried to hate them because they started popping up like cancers across the country but, they actually do sell good coffee in a pleasant atmosphere. I have just recently moved from a suburb of Sydney called, Balmain. Balmain has the reputation of being cafi city. It is famous for the best cafis in Sydney and a slightly snobbish population. When word spread that aaagh! an American coffee chain was opening, petitions flew like confetti to try to stop them just like they had managed to do with McDonalds. There was so much fuss that the local council issued a statement in the local newspaper. They said in the statement that they understand that many of the residents of Balmain were unhappy that Starbucks were about to open but, they were powerless to stop them as they were not doing anything illegal. Starbucks opened in the middle of the cafi strip without fanfare and have quietly been doing a roaring trade ever since. They are open later than any other cafi there, they have more comfortable seating than any other so called stylish cafi in the area and their coffee ain't half bad. The only societal problem with chains like Starbucks, McDonalds and Dominoes is if they get so big that they resemble a monopoly and we lose choice. Mark in Sydney NP Joni Mitchell/James Taylor - In Perfect Harmony. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:03:31 +0000 From: colin Subject: Joni's unpoularity Joni's lack of sales and the lack of recognition could perhaps have been foreseen by anyone who understands the way the human psyche works. Joni is different. Different. And difference breeds contempt. She does not follow the crowd. That breeds contempt. She has opinions and is not afraid to voice them. Thus receiving more contempt. Even amongst those who on the surface love her for just her difference, there was contempt when she didn't follow form and put out Mingus. Again when she put out DED. How dare she? Who does she think she is? So the accusations start flying - - she was off the wall, couldn't be trusted, must have a screw loose, was too in love, gave her power away to some producer, is anti this or anti that, and generally gets derided. Not becasue there is any truth in the accusations but by her difference, by her holding up a mirror, she makes people feel uncomfortable. And people heap accusations upon her of the very flaws they themselves are displaying in bucket loads. People have always done this to people who threaten their ideas. Communties do it all the time and if they can't stomp on the person or group they despise in any ethtical way, they lie. Thus Jews get accused of sacrificing babies, gay men get accused of being peodophiles and being highly promiscuous, gay women get accused of being men haters as do feminists,people of colour get accsued of not being fully human, devil worshippers. Absolutley anyone who does not toe the line has derision and lies heaped upon them. And whilst the ringleaders do this, others sit on the sidelines and let it happen because they are afraid they will be targeted too. Joni sticks her neck out, she stands up for what she believes is right and she gets trounced. That doesn't make her special, or perfect, or even better than. It just means she practises what she preaches as far as humanly possible and very few like that. She holds up a mirror to us and we kick out at it. This is not say to she is faultless, of course not, but in order for to hold up a mirror to us, she must look in her own mirror too, and that she does and isn't afraid to, and accepts what she sees and changes what she sess needs changing. Maybe we have heard the last from her, maybe not. Whatever our view of her work, she has lived an authentic life, to the best of her ability, and whilst I doubt she sees that about herself,the pay off will come. Having never clearly understood why I admire her so much and love her work, the above spells it out to me. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:45:16 +0000 (GMT) From: tian zhang Subject: Re: Joni's unpoularity Wow that was a fantastic post. What I love about Joni is the fact that although she is underappreciated by many, that there are fans like us that will always stick by her regardless of the people around who will critisise her. I admit the first time I heard Don Juan's Reckless Daughter I was amazed and shocked, but I respected her for what she did, and it is in my opinion a brilliant work. It's a shame that there are people who are too narrow-minded to appreciate her artistry. colin wrote: Joni's lack of sales and the lack of recognition could perhaps have been foreseen by anyone who understands the way the human psyche works. Joni is different. Different. And difference breeds contempt. She does not follow the crowd. That breeds contempt. She has opinions and is not afraid to voice them. Thus receiving more contempt. Even amongst those who on the surface love her for just her difference, there was contempt when she didn't follow form and put out Mingus. Again when she put out DED. How dare she? Who does she think she is? So the accusations start flying - - she was off the wall, couldn't be trusted, must have a screw loose, was too in love, gave her power away to some producer, is anti this or anti that, and generally gets derided. Not becasue there is any truth in the accusations but by her difference, by her holding up a mirror, she makes people feel uncomfortable. And people heap accusations upon her of the very flaws they themselves are displaying in bucket loads. People have always done this to people who threaten their ideas. Communties do it all the time and if they can't stomp on the person or group they despise in any ethtical way, they lie. Thus Jews get accused of sacrificing babies, gay men get accused of being peodophiles and being highly promiscuous, gay women get accused of being men haters as do feminists,people of colour get accsued of not being fully human, devil worshippers. Absolutley anyone who does not toe the line has derision and lies heaped upon them. And whilst the ringleaders do this, others sit on the sidelines and let it happen because they are afraid they will be targeted too. Joni sticks her neck out, she stands up for what she believes is right and she gets trounced. That doesn't make her special, or perfect, or even better than. It just means she practises what she preaches as far as humanly possible and very few like that. She holds up a mirror to us and we kick out at it. This is not say to she is faultless, of course not, but in order for to hold up a mirror to us, she must look in her own mirror too, and that she does and isn't afraid to, and accepts what she sees and changes what she sess needs changing. Maybe we have heard the last from her, maybe not. Whatever our view of her work, she has lived an authentic life, to the best of her ability, and whilst I doubt she sees that about herself,the pay off will come. Having never clearly understood why I admire her so much and love her work, the above spells it out to me. bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ - --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:26:14 +0000 From: tantra_apso Subject: Re: Joni's unpoularity tian zhang wrote: > >What I love about Joni is the fact that although she is underappreciated by many, that there are fans like us that will always stick by her regardless of the people around who will critisise her. I admit the first time I heard Don Juan's Reckless Daughter I was amazed and shocked, but I respected her for what she did, and it is in my opinion a brilliant work. It's a shame that there are people who are too narrow-minded to appreciate her artistry. > > > I think it is okay to not like her or not appreciate her artistry. i think it would be difficult to appreciate the art and not enjoy it. What i don't think is okay is to criticise her, or worse, because of that dislike of the work. Especially not okay to dislike her work purely because of her ideas. I have read reviews of some of her work where the author didn't stick to the work he or she was reviewing but started to slam her as a person. That is not ethical and, imo, a failure on their part to do their job, which is to review the work, or at least that is my assumption as to what their job is. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:35:04 -0500 From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #87 Do Joni, shit that is a hard one....tongue and cheek shall we sa...ok my answer is HELL YES. Dylan in his youth even.....NOT However, most jewish boyz of my time, could not dance but could do the FUNKY THING... Now, would we all make love to Laura Nyro? Me thinks SO your lil pest....Nyrogrl!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:05:17 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Joni's unpoularity I think of Joni as a few different things, among them "painter"...but I also from time to time think of her as a cook! A "chef" of sorts. And some of her dishes I prefer not to eat (at least not on a regular basis), because they contain, say, either liver or eggplant, or some other thing that for some reason is unpalatable to me. But hey - the rest of the world loves it! So it must be great stuff, this liver and this eggplant. So I recognize it as a limitation in my palate, not as any flaw in her "menu". :) Em ps anyway.., btw, I didn't realize Joni was unpopular! I mean she had a Grammy winning album not all that long ago! - --- tantra_apso wrote: > I think it is okay to not like her or not appreciate her artistry. i > > think it would be difficult to appreciate the art and not enjoy it. > What i don't think is okay is to criticise her, or worse, because of > that dislike of the work. Especially not okay to dislike her work > purely > because of her ideas. > I have read reviews of some of her work where the author didn't stick > to > the work he or she was reviewing but started to slam her as a person. > > That is not ethical and, imo, a failure on their part to do their > job, > which is to review the work, or at least that is my assumption as to > what their job is. > > -- > bw > colin > http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ > ===== "Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube." - ----- Hunter S. Thompson 1937-2005, RIP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:16:12 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Have you guys seen this? !!! Secret Gardens of Hollywood and Private Oases in Los Angeles by Lennard, Erica Description This book offers a peek into the most beautiful private gardens of Los Angeles, one of the most verdant places on earth. Life here is meant to be lived outdoors and extravagantly, and these gardens reflect the town's larger-than-life personalities who take pride in their extraordinary garden sanctuaries. The sunny, warm climate in L.A. allows garden designers to unleash their most creative gardening fantasies, using plants collected from all over the world. The twenty-five gardens in the book illustrate the remarkable range of styles in the area, from Joni Mitchell's whimsical Bel-Air garden retreat to a garden of rare succulent plants at Jack LaLanne's former residence to Ted Danson and Mary Steenburgen's Southern-style country hideaway. Featuring all-new photographs by Erica Lennard, coauthor of the bestselling book "The Art of Doing Nothing, this escape book is sure to appeal to gardeners and star-gazers alike. AuthorLennard, EricaISBN0789308819FormatHardcoverPublication Date09/2003 Steve Time to go to Amazon.com! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:34:25 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Have you guys seen this? !!! Steve writes: > The twenty-five gardens in the book illustrate the > remarkable range of styles in the area, from Joni Mitchell's whimsical > Bel-Air garden retreat I just hope Joni still has her garden after some of the hillsides gave way from all the rain being dumped in SoCal. I've seen her Bel-Air home (from the outside), and if I recall, the back of her house is right on a hill. Jimmy NPIMH : Smurf being tied to the bed listening to every Joni cover CD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:39:31 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: our own survivor, joni's on island It would be fun as long as there's no ganging up to throw people off! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mackoliver" To: "joni" Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 1:45 PM Subject: our own survivor, joni's on island > oops. forgot a subject. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mackoliver > To: joni > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:44 PM > > > I think the execs at the stations are making a big mistake. It would be a > hoot to have the jmdl members on an island together. Wouldn't that be > interesting to watch? hehehe > > mack > > np: hissing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:22:48 -0500 From: "McMillan Brad" Subject: Re: Joni's unpoularity This discussion of Joni's relative popularity raises a question for me: I have been trying to reassemble my Joni catalogue on CD (y'know the one I have stored on vinyl.). I have been able to find the albums that were released after I sorta got away from her for awhile, but a couple of the early albums and a couple in the middle of her career seem kind of elusive. Does anyone know if any of Joni's albums are out of circulation? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Em" To: "tantra_apso" ; "tian zhang" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Joni's unpoularity > I think of Joni as a few different things, among them "painter"...but I > also from time to time think of her as a cook! > A "chef" of sorts. And some of her dishes I prefer not to eat (at least > not on a regular basis), because they contain, say, either liver or > eggplant, or some other thing that for some reason is unpalatable to > me. > But hey - the rest of the world loves it! So it must be great stuff, > this liver and this eggplant. > So I recognize it as a limitation in my palate, not as any flaw in her > "menu". > :) > Em > ps anyway.., btw, I didn't realize Joni was unpopular! I mean she had a > Grammy winning album not all that long ago! > > --- tantra_apso wrote: > > I think it is okay to not like her or not appreciate her artistry. i > > > > think it would be difficult to appreciate the art and not enjoy it. > > What i don't think is okay is to criticise her, or worse, because of > > that dislike of the work. Especially not okay to dislike her work > > purely > > because of her ideas. > > I have read reviews of some of her work where the author didn't stick > > to > > the work he or she was reviewing but started to slam her as a person. > > > > That is not ethical and, imo, a failure on their part to do their > > job, > > which is to review the work, or at least that is my assumption as to > > what their job is. > > > > -- > > bw > > colin > > http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ > > > > > ===== > "Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube." > ----- Hunter S. Thompson 1937-2005, RIP ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:56:07 +0000 From: "c Karma" Subject: Would you touch Bob Dylan with a ten foot pole? I wouldn't touch Bob Dylan with YOUR ten foot pole. CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:07:12 +0000 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Starbucks/top50/catchup/and all that stuff OH AND SUDAN 1 colouring sjc? Hello the list............Whoosh ! back from lurking in long silences and raising my head for some short squeaks to prove I am still alive every now and again... probably a bit of a squeak this, but what the heck here I am in snowy-ish England with a computer that is working (thanks Chris its going fine) and feeling that life is tearing by faster than I would like it to. Where is time goin?. Apologies for not crediting everyone with what has made me come out to play but I am short of time. Someone mentioned art classes and music and not wanting to listen to rap(have to say cant stand it .........its just not my cultural rhythm and heritage...although I liked Grandmaster Flash years ago). At my sons school when he is doing his art projects they can have music on or wear their own head sets and do their own thing if they dont want to listen to what is on the player. He is into a wide range of stuff for being 16 and I am glad he is such an eclectic listener. A year or so ago they had the radio on and Matthews Southern Comfort was playing "Woodstock" and the art teacher was saying he loved the song, Appartently Sam said in his "i really dont get Joni.... however" voice ... "Yeah but Joni Mitchell wrote it and its actually better by her but still not my scene" Silence from a very startled art teacher and a bit of cred gained (begrudgingly via me) from the times they have had to listen to Joni HITS in the car.... Starbucks..love it or hate it as a chain ........has provided my kids with a safe and social place to hang out when they want to meet their friends. I like their range of coffees and whilst caffeinne is the norm here you can, if you want (why????) get decaff. OK the muffins are just BIG FAIRY CAKES and not muffins at all..Muffins are thick bready sort of rounds not BIG FAIRY CAKES. that aside their paninis are ok and you know what you are going to get if you dont want surprises... sort of familiar and not too crappy. rather Starbucks that than Mc Ds.....Sam and I love coffee, Liz likes hot choc. Maybe they are evil places (not sure about why any one would think they were.... but maybe...but we have not yet grown horns nor started to worship at the temple of bad things) but they dont have gambling machines in them, do play some excellent music (Jeff Buckley the other day) and they are welcoming of young people who behave (which mine do). They, and I, also like Ottakars book shop where there is a coffee shop and Waterstones ditto. I suppose these are the equiv of Barnes and Noble. You can half read a new book and smear it with your fingers and put it back.... I am sooo naughty..... I used to love Blackwells in Oxford as it stretches under the road.. you could look at books and hear the buses going over head.... ANYWAY........ TOP 50 what a great theme and who started it. i read a few and thought OH YES I so miss that song. I also realise I must get a record deck and hear the hiss and rumble of some of the LPs I have as some of you mentioned tracks from albums I have not listened to for years.... .Oh dear.. I find that top 50s shift depending on what is currently on the play list in my head, The purely hypothetical excercise of what ARE my top 50 has revealed a strong bent towards Canadian artists....... I think I am probably a lost Canadian soul trapped in an English body.... But at the moment my Joni choice would be No Regrets Coyote. I do love this list and know the part it played in my "happiness return" when I joined two Christmases ago. I love it even when we scrap and have fisticuffs and get all hot and bothered and in high dudgeon about things... There are some wonderful voices of reason here, some great enthusiasts for the small detail, some real bouncing Tigger types and some of the quiet ones who just buzz about here and there. I think it helps that we are all basically decent and kind. Maybe I lurk a lot now but I am more peaceful generally. And now "would you touch Dylan with a 10 foot pole"... the only pole I know is 5 foot 7 and he does not know any 10 foot ones.And as to Fort Myers phone book being sung... I think Sir Michael Redgrave did a much better job when he read the directory of "Huntingdonshire Cabmen" as part of the "world of Beachcomber" whcih makes Monty P look sane and the recent upsurgings of loopiness (it is a full moon here you know) all the more bearable. Must go..........Time for me to cook King Frank, Prince Sam and Princess Elizabeths' Supper. I have given the staff the night off (oh if only) ....Something with chicken I expect. OH...been meaning to ask have you, across the pond...yes you....you ex-colonials.... had the food scare about the colouring called SUDAN 1? apparently there are concerns about a rogue batch (it is highly carcinogenous) contaminating various well known foods including Worcester Sauce and a number of ready meals..and flavourings. Luckily I rarely do anything ready.... and we dont like Worcester Sauce that much..... but its out there and its causing mayhem here....... On that happy note good evening..its snowing here (a rare event in my neck of the woods) Queen Lulu. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:17:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's unpopularity I'm no authority, but doing some simple searches at Amazon, CD Universe etc. shows everything still out there EXCEPT for DED, of course DED in its entirety is on the Geffen box. And looking at Amazon, it looks like Joni's NEXT compilation (when does this madness end?**) "Songs Of A Prarie Girl" is due out April 25. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007UMMHC/qid=1109204051/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/103-9500611-9187003?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 At what point will Joni have more comps out there than original works? She's been cranking these things out like Catholics havin' babies. Bob NP: Van the Man, "Brand New Day" **actually a bit ironic coming from a guy who's working on "Joni Covers, Volume 70"! Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:26:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Doug Meek alert!! Set your radio dials y'all This Saturday Feb 26 on CKUA from 9-10 will be the first of a 3-part special on Joni titled "A Portrait - Joni Mitchell". For three consecutive Saturdays Tony King hosts A PORTRAIT - JONI MITCHELL. The one hour shows will take a look at the artist and her music through various stages in her career. The program airs from 9 -10 AM starting Saturday, February 26. For more info go to http://www.ckua.com/ and click on the Joni link in the "What's Happening" section. Bob NP: Radiohead, "Packt Like Sardines In A Crushed Tin Box" Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:45:54 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Joni Tribute in Grass Valley California >A Joni Mitchell tribute at The Center for the Arts in Grass Valley is set for March 18 and 19 and is a Saul Rayo production. $18 admission. http://www.theunion.com/article/20050217/PROSPECTOR/102170060 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:07:48 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Doug Meek alert!! Set your radio dials y'all No way I can get this one. The broadcast area is Alberta. One of our listers in Saskatoon with a good antenna might be able to pick it up from Edmonton on 94.9 or 97.5 from Lloydminster. It's also fed to the Starchoice satellite system across Canada. I have the other system :( Doug Bob Muller wrote: > This Saturday Feb 26 on CKUA from 9-10 will be the first of a 3-part > special on Joni titled "A Portrait - Joni Mitchell". For three > consecutive Saturdays Tony King hosts A PORTRAIT - JONI MITCHELL. The > one hour shows will take a look at the artist and her music through > various stages in her career. > > The program airs from 9 -10 AM starting Saturday, February 26. > For more info go to http://www.ckua.com/ and click on the Joni link in > the "What's Happening" section. > > Bob > > NP: Radiohead, "Packt Like Sardines In A Crushed Tin Box" > Yahoo! Mail > > - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:29:12 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: check it out now, joni soul brothers Photos of Wally and me at STARBUCKS looking at the new JONI CDs. (We didn't buy anything though because they're an evil corporation and Joni hasn't recorded anything new.) But hurry, I put the photos on craigslist Omaha! Hee-ha! Check out the one of Wally looking ironically iconically like a saint, or something winged. Hmm. http://omaha.craigslist.org/rnr/61058403.html XO, - --Smurf __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:39:12 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Starbucks I too have to admit when I first read the jabs at Starbucks, I was a bit hurt. My wife and I are die hards. Of course, up here in southern Ontario our only other alternative is Tim Hortons and the like. Believe me, If you tried it you'd spit it out on the first sip. Good coffee is good coffee and Starbucks has it. If you're in the right one, it can be very soothing and relaxing. Last week I heard Harlem in Havana in there (it stopped me dead in my tracks). I have also heard Amelia as well. What more could you ask for???? Doug from Canada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:39:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni's unpopularity Mark or Travis wrote: Looks like it's worth $35.99...or maybe better to say it's selling for $35.99. Bob NP: Ani, "Paradigm" (song of the year thus far) Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:58 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #85 In a message dated 2/22/05 9:58:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: jk Who is jk? Joni Kahlos? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:09:21 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Joni's unpopularity > And looking at Amazon, it looks like Joni's NEXT compilation (when > does this madness end?**) "Songs Of A Prarie Girl" is due out April > 25. > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007UMMHC/qid=1109204051/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl15/103-9500611-9187003?v=glance&s=music&n=507846 Well this one does say it's an import for whatever that's worth. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:17:07 EST From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: JIMMMMMMM In a message dated 2/23/2005 9:59:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, les@jmdl.com writes: The world's 2nd most opinionated man, Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY Jimmy Baby..............Nyrogrl lives in Lexington ! Another JoniPhile in the Bluegrass. Thank goddess there's a god!!! But Jim, that's just my opinion!! flyingpoodle productions jody l serkes producer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 23:48:44 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Starbucks now sjc OK--Hope I don't have to hand in my leftist credentials, but the only decent coffee one can get in my supermarket is Starbuck's coffee--and since we don't have a Starbucks proper, I make it, every morning, and the other stuff I can get here is crap. I know it's no excuse, but when it comes to luxuries--good coffee is a must for me. That said, I don't know what possessed me to buy the Joni CDs when I visited the big city Starbucks in Savannah--I mean, why encourage her to keep recycling? At least the Artist's Choice one provides a novel Joni listening experience--and you gotta admiore her chutzpah putting one of her own songs on there. Secondarily, I've read Klein's (Naomi, not Larry) NOLOGO, and while it is eye-opening in many of its particulars--I don't find its analysis terribly nuanced. But it does give one something to think about. Cheers, Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:18 PM To: Doug; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Starbucks now njc --- Doug wrote: > I too have to admit when I first read the jabs at > Starbucks, I was a > bit hurt. My wife and I are die hards. Of course, up > here in southern > Ontario our only other alternative is Tim Hortons > and the like. Believe > me, If you tried it you'd spit it out on the first > sip. LOL, Doug. Why does everyone say Timmy's has such great coffee? Gimme a break! It's the same burnt Columbian you get everywhere else, and yet there is ALWAYS a lineup, no matter what time of time or night you go there. We had this very discussion at work last week. WHY does everyone go to Tim Horton's? Someone claims they put nicotine in their coffee. Sounds a bit extreme to me but hey, ya never know. And I was the one that started the Starbucks-is-evil thread. I stop by a little indy bakery on my way to work for coffee. It's not great coffee, it's kind of watery continental dark, but I've had worse. It's just that the people that work there (they're Chinese or Korean and I'm sure it's a family business) are just SO nice, and sometimes they give me free cookies. ===== Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 02:29:22 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2005 #88 Subject: Joni's unpopularity Joni's lack of sales and the lack of recognition could perhaps have been foreseen by anyone who understands the way the human psyche works. Unpopular yes, but I have to say Joni is not under-recognized. She is one of the creative touchstones for critics, musicians and writers and is very frequently referred to in the media as such. She was "popular" for a number of years, and I guess we'll all have to be happy with that. Not that I wouldn't like for her to have a hit record, but it's not going to happen (especially during retirement, of course). Bryan NP: Mark Isham/Racing Stripes soundtrack ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #57 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)