From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #37 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, February 6 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 037 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: A step back in time... [Deb Messling ] Re: A step back in time... [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: A step back in time... [Bob Muller ] Re: The blight, the dance and all that [Bob Muller ] The blight, the dance and all that ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: A step back in time... ["Richard Flynn" ] RE: A step back in time... ["Richard Flynn" ] Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} ["Richard Flyn] Re: A step back in time... ["Michael O'Malley" ] Re: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} [Lori Fye ] Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} -- sorry ... [] The 2004 Jonifest DVD Giveaway [Emiliano ] RE: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} [Emiliano ] RE: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} [Catherine] Article in Sydney Morning Herald - several Joni references ["Melissa Gibb] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 08:07:42 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: A step back in time... Thanks for transcribing this! Interesting that way back then, Joni was leery of the term "folksinger" and claiming something bigger for herself. I thought that view was something she picked up much later. At 08:51 PM 2/4/2005, you wrote: >"I'm not a folksinger," she says "I'm afraid of the word." >When she talks her hands move quickly, moulding, shaping and weaving some >invisible >material. >"I've tried to interpret all the songs and their presentation and state >them with one guitar >and one voice. I'm a female tributary to that brand of music." - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:20:57 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: A step back in time... From the article Doug sent: And this singer who likes "to do things for myself in my own way" even created the cover for her own album. "I would like to learn the sitar," she smiles... Hi Doug! Thanks for this article. I hadn't read it before. It really painted a good picture of Joni. I like the first quote above because it speaks of uninhibited self expression. That is what I like so much about Joni... she's herself to the world without being held back by the "what will people think?" notion. The sitar... cool, cool instrument. I would like to learn it to! My cousin married a lady whose family is from India so they had awesome sitar music at their wedding when she walked in. Anybody out there play sitar? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: A step back in time... Doug wrote: <"Lots of people in the business are financialy comfortable but artisically unfulfilled, like The Monkees."> Hey Doug - thanks a googleplex for spending the hours it took to do this. As I'm utterly fascinated with her early period I drank this article up like Momma's milk. Awesome, and this writer really saw who Joni was, and it also amazed me how the things she said then were so consistent with things she said later. And since they were one of my fave 60's Pop bands, I love that she mentions the Monkees - even if it's not in the most flattering light. Coincidentally, the article I posted a couple days ago lumps LOTC in with a Nesmith LP, and of course we also know that Stephen Stills would have been a Monkee in place of Peter Tork except his teeth were too crooked. I'm glad things worked out the way they did. The only thing better than this article would be a recording of the show to listen to as I read it, so please send one to my mailbox, willya? ;~) Bob NP: Dinah Washington, "Don't Go To Strangers" (vocal upfront, orchestra in the back, as it should be) Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 07:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: The blight, the dance and all that Eaddy, the first time I heard Hejira was right when it came out - a gift from a girl I had a MAJOR crush on (and still do) and at the time I was an 18-year-old Aerosmith-Led Zeppelin-Allman Bros. kind of guy, but at the same time I was taught by my Dad to appreciate a good lyric. When I heard Hejira, I loved the SOUND of it right off, the gallop of Coyote, the jazz lounge mood of Blue Motel Room, the wondrous story within Song For Sharon, and that WEIRD sound on so many of the songs (had no idea it was a bass, I'd not heard anything like that before). Anyway, when I heard the title track, I didn't understand the song much, I just knew it was IMPORTANT (just as you do, it sounds like). The line that you referenced however, was one that jumped out at me because I DID understand it, and I thought it was such a non-cliche-ous way to say "from birth to death"...between the foreceps and the stone...wow. I've spent 30 years since digging it and letting it reveal its magical secrets to me. Bob NP: The Replacements, "Rock & Roll Ghost" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:27:22 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: The blight, the dance and all that I love hejira & the opening chords especially are so gorgeous... I think it was catherine who said it was trance like, meditative... I agree- that is its charm... joni didn't write a lot of hooky music... these days in the world of mainstream pop music its all about the BIG hook... the BIG chorus etc... sometimes it works & sometimes I such a manufactured sound... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 12:37:17 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: A step back in time... Could someone repost this or forward to me? I accidentally deleted the transcription. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:26 AM To: Doug Cc: JMDL Subject: Re: A step back in time... Doug wrote: <"Lots of people in the business are financialy comfortable but artisically unfulfilled, like The Monkees."> Hey Doug - thanks a googleplex for spending the hours it took to do this. As I'm utterly fascinated with her early period I drank this article up like Momma's milk. Awesome, and this writer really saw who Joni was, and it also amazed me how the things she said then were so consistent with things she said later. And since they were one of my fave 60's Pop bands, I love that she mentions the Monkees - even if it's not in the most flattering light. Coincidentally, the article I posted a couple days ago lumps LOTC in with a Nesmith LP, and of course we also know that Stephen Stills would have been a Monkee in place of Peter Tork except his teeth were too crooked. I'm glad things worked out the way they did. The only thing better than this article would be a recording of the show to listen to as I read it, so please send one to my mailbox, willya? ;~) Bob NP: Dinah Washington, "Don't Go To Strangers" (vocal upfront, orchestra in the back, as it should be) Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:19:52 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: A step back in time... Thanks to all those who forwarded the original post. I was going to see if it needed to be added to the JMDL library--probably my favorite resource on the web site, but, as usual, Les is right on top of things: http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=1235 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 16:21:44 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} A visit to the page at Ebay bears the following information: "The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale." A win for the good guys. Thanks to all of you who reported this seller to Ebay. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:04 PM To: JMDL Subject: Hmmm, this item looks familiar The 2004 Jonifest DVD Giveaway: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4072950166&fromMakeTrack= true Bob NP: Neil, "After The Gold Rush" Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 21:54:02 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: A step back in time... Hey Doug, Thanks for typing out that review. I'm amazed to see how much self-knowlege she displayed in 1968 and how clearheaded she was about her budding career. It's also interesting to see that from the very beginning she felt an urgent need to protect her artisitic integrity. And protect it she did. I'd love to speak to someone who has memories to share of her performances from those days. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN. Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: A step back in time... Does anyone know where this quote comes from? "Music is hungry for the individual." She writes the songs herself; so far 40 of them, and they portray the same honesty and sincerity that makes Joni Mitchell master of her music. Free-flowing songs stamped indelibly with the soul of an artist, and sent winging on the voice of a girl who says "Music is hungry for the individual." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:08:35 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} > "The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available > for sale." > > A win for the good guys. Thanks to all of you who reported this seller to > Ebay. I still want to know the name of the yahoo who had the cojones to list that!!! Lori, REALLY hoping whoever it is isn't a member of the JMDL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 20:09:22 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} -- sorry ... ... for forgetting the N*JC tag. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:22:47 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: The 2004 Jonifest DVD Giveaway Hi, Richard, that's good news, indeed! I don't understand any music lover trying to profit from it! This compilation... I must chime in. I've just watched it for the first time tonight... having a Wonderful time! Yes I know I could have get it last September, but I've just broke with Visa at this time... now some kind lister has seeded it in acousticharmonies (that's acceptable, isn't it?), and since yesterday I treasure it in my home. One thing we don't tell enough: how wonderful Joni is singing harmonies! The way she weaves her voice doing backing vocals (oh yes her magical voice!) or in duets like these with Johnny Cash... This is such a nice compilation! I don't remember who put it together... And yes, the comedy bit about the Grammy: it's so f=ck#ng sympton that among four jewels, that OliviaNJ could win, don' you think? well... Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano PS: ...back to lurkdom again: I'm feeling so lazy to write in english, lately... must be the winter's weight. PSS: Patti, please, viens 'a la France cet 'ete' NP: Just Like this Train, UCLA, 22 May 1988 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 02:30:19 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: RE: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de Lori > Fye > Enviado el: domingo, 06 de febrero de 2005 2:09 > Para: joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} > I still want to know the name of the yahoo who had the cojones to > list that!!! > > Lori, > REALLY hoping whoever it is isn't a member of the JMDL Hi! I must know it, too: I'll send his name to the [moderators group] and he'll be banned like dirt dust from any trading group... radically yours: Emiliano NP: Hejira, UCLA, 1988 What a Number One song!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 23:05:32 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Jonifest Ebay update was [ Hmmm, this item looks familiar} --- Emiliano wrote: >> I must know it, too: I'll send his name to the > [moderators group] and he'll > be banned like dirt dust from any trading group... > > radically yours: > Emiliano > Emiliano, these people tend to use different names on E-Bay than they would elsewhere. It would be difficult to know who he really is. He (or she maybe) has his feedback set to "private" so you can't read what people have said about him, although the ratings (+,- or neutral) can be seen. He also has a comment telling people not to leave any negative feedback unless they've bid on something, which suggests, to me, that other people have outed him for selling boots that he no doubt got for free through file-sharing groups. He has a bunch of other so-called "rare" stuff (DVDs) for sale from other artists that don't look like commercial releases to me. It's slimy and chintzy. It's not a crime along the lines of murder or child molestation, but it is scummy because, imo anyway, it's a breach of faith to take something that is freely traded and shared by people who love music, and then turn around and make a profit from it, and I doubt the profit is even that great an amount. If there's anything I despise more than a slimeball, it's a cheap slimeball. Patooey! ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:24:29 +1100 (EST) From: "Melissa Gibbs" Subject: Article in Sydney Morning Herald - several Joni references Apologies if one of my Australian colleagues has posted this already (I'm on digest). There was an article in Saturday's Sydney Morning Herald about kd land and Canadian writers and musicians. Although primarily about kd lang, it includes several Joni references. Weblink is: http://www.smh.com.au/news/Music/North-of-the-border/2005/02/04/1107476783830.html Melissa in Sydney, on her way to a swim (it's a divine 28 degrees celcius!) NP: Marianne Faithfull, The Ballad of Lucy Jordan ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #37 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)