From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #21 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, January 22 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 021 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Vote Mingus! [John Sprackland ] Re: Vote Mingus! [Catherine McKay ] Re: dealing with everything, JC [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: dealing with everything, JC ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Vote Mingus! ["Mark or Travis" ] Re: Vote Mingus! [John Sprackland ] Re: Vote Mingus! [John Sprackland ] Carole and Joni [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] re: John Gorka ["Anne Sandstrom" ] Joe Boyd on London ["Paul Castle" ] Um corvo preto, volando (sjc) [Justalittlebreen@aol.com] Joni Mitchell, 100% JC ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] (was) Um corvo preto, (now) A little nellie music [Smurf ] Re: Vote Mingus! [Catherine McKay ] Re: John Gorka now pasta ["Mark or Travis" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:55:03 +0000 From: John Sprackland Subject: Vote Mingus! Hi list, Just been watching the WOHAM documentary (I'm just sick enough to be off work, but not REALLY sick, if you know what I mean!) and it made me so angry to be reminded of the critical mauling that was given to 'Mingus' and how it knocked Joni back. I believe that if Mingus had been received as the masterpiece that it is, Joni would have continued along a creative path that she had only just begun to explore and would still be running now. Instead we got the backlash of the stodgy 'Wild Things Run Fast' and the comparatively safe output that followed. It took Joni nearly 10 years to get over that and come back with another album that was true to her soul ('Night Ride Home'). And then I checked in to the jmdl album polls and sadly discovered that Mingus has been rated as Joni's least popular proper album release for the last two years. Below 'Wild Things'? Below 'Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm'? jmdl, I despair of you! I cannot bear the idea that Joni must think that even we - he most devoted followers - are as tone-deaf as the critics who gave Mingus such a rough ride. Please, get the album out again now (and shame on you if you don't even own it!) then go back to the album poll and cast your votes. Vote Mingus! Yeah! My top five: 1. The Hissing of Summer Lawns (The first Joni album I ever heard so it will always be special) 2. For The Roses 3. Blue 4. Mingus 5. Night Ride Home John Southport, UK NP: Night Ride Home... on vinyl, so much more satisfying! - -- Sprackland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:22:01 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Vote Mingus! --- John Sprackland wrote: > > I believe that if Mingus had been received as the > masterpiece that it > is, Joni would have continued along a creative path > that she had only > just begun to explore and would still be running > now. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see Joni being so put off by anything the critics had to say about it that she would just quit, although I'm sure it hurt a lot. I figured it had more to do with losing Mingus (the man) and not being strong enough jazz-wise to go there on her own. And Mingus was just so original and different that I can't think of anyone else who does quite that kind of music. It would be a tough act to follow. I don't know. I'm no jazz expert but, when I finally did give a listen to Mingus' own work, I was blown away. Having said that, Joni has continued to collaborate with jazz musicians and other jazz-like musicians up to her most recent stuff, so there is definitely a consistent jazz link. > And then I checked in to the jmdl album polls and > sadly discovered that > Mingus has been rated as Joni's least popular proper > album release for > the last two years. Below 'Wild Things'? Below > 'Chalk Mark in a > Rainstorm'? jmdl, I despair of you! I cannot bear > the idea that Joni > must think that even we - he most devoted followers > - are as tone-deaf > as the critics who gave Mingus such a rough ride. Hmm. I've never voted in one of those polls and I don't like to participate in "best of..." lists because they're just too fluid for me. How many people voted on them, and do they have to be jmdl members, or can anyone vote? Can you vote more than once? As far as Joni's stuff is concerned, 'Mingus' would definitely be right up there, if not at the top, then certainly very close, and certainly far above 'Wild things' and 'Chalk Mark'. But that's about as far as I'm willing to go because, otherwise, it means creating some kind of "best of" list . ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:07:36 EST From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: dealing with everything, JC Bob wrote: Lord knows that Joni's work deals with everything, so why shouldn't we? Hi Bob! Yes! My experience is this list contains living Joni content in each of us. We've been affected by listening to, learning, and studying Joni's lyrics and music and by observing her art and persona. All of these have had an influence on my life in a very definite way, and I see that in other JMDLers too. The beauty of this list in my opinion is we live Joni as we express ourselves freely together. I usually do so with a Joni song in mind... "everyday, in every way." Speaking of Joni songs, I've been playing and singing Sisotowbell Lane a lot of late, really getting more and more into the song. Is there an actual Sisotowbell Lane, and if so, where? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:22:06 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? Cover King Bob>>one of the few times, if not THE only time that Joni's style coincided with the zeitgeist.<< I would say that her early work coincided nicely with the zeitgeist if I understand that word correctly... I'm not talking top ten hits but what the majority of people I knew were listening to- csn, james taylor, richie havens, etc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:34:33 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: vljc >A dismal day, the inauguration of it. Something is not right here.< Agreed... >Where is our champion? I hope he or she appears soon or we are lost and still they die for 'freedom'< She- Barbara Boxer the senator from California is doing it & has been for some time-- she voted against the war, stood up as the ONLY senator to challenge the 2004 vote & recently challenged C Rice at the hearing (or whatever it is called)... you'd think more dems would be on her page but they are not which makes her actions all the more courageous ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:45:31 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: dealing with everything, JC LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Speaking of Joni songs, I've been playing and singing Sisotowbell > Lane a > lot of late, really getting more and more into the song. Is there > an actual Sisotowbell Lane, and if so, where? Guess what, Laura? Sisotowbell is an ACRONYM! Somehow in spite of troubles ours will be ever lasting love. I kid you not. Take that, Catherine! M E I S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:56:04 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Vote Mingus! Catherine McKay wrote: > > Maybe it's just me, but I can't see Joni being so put > off by anything the critics had to say about it that > she would just quit, although I'm sure it hurt a lot. > I figured it had more to do with losing Mingus (the > man) and not being strong enough jazz-wise to go there > on her own.> > Having said that, Joni has continued to collaborate > with jazz musicians and other jazz-like musicians up > to her most recent stuff, so there is definitely a > consistent jazz link. Mingus is a bit of an anomaly in Joni's catalogue. Except for two songs, Joni only wrote the words and the music was written by Mingus. It is a collaborative effort in a musical form that she was really only a novice in. I don't think she probably would have chosen to pursue pure jazz if the record had gotten a better reception from the public and the critics. Joni is more interested in creating new hybrids. She incorporated what she learned making Mingus into everything that followed. And again, at the risk of sounding like a broken vinyl sound recording receptacle, I think what followed Mingus has a lot of value to it. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:34:31 +0000 From: John Sprackland Subject: Re: Vote Mingus! Hi Catherine, I appreciate your response.. and agree with everything you say! I share your suspicion of 'best of..' lists but still find them hard to resist. What I like about the jmdl album and song polls is that they are fluid; because the polls close and restart afresh each year they give a measure of the changing favour of Joni's work. You can vote for as many songs / albums as you want to show favour for and it seems that now you can vote more than once (I'm sure you could previously only vote once in the year but now it seems you can vote again after a month). And yes, you can only vote if you are registered with jmdl. Its kinda fun - I find I can only do it if I do it very fast, if I stop to think I'm done for! Regards John Southport, UK P.S. Who has heard Minnie Riperton's version of 'Woman of Heart and Mind'? I've only just discovered that she recorded it and I'm intrigued - - nice to find someone covering one of Joni's lesser known songs. Is it worth getting hold of? In message <20050121122201.59823.qmail@web14121.mail.yahoo.com>, Catherine McKay writes > --- John Sprackland >wrote: >> >> I believe that if Mingus had been received as the >> masterpiece that it >> is, Joni would have continued along a creative path >> that she had only >> just begun to explore and would still be running >> now. > >Maybe it's just me, but I can't see Joni being so put >off by anything the critics had to say about it that >she would just quit, although I'm sure it hurt a lot. >I figured it had more to do with losing Mingus (the >man) and not being strong enough jazz-wise to go there >on her own. And Mingus was just so original and >different that I can't think of anyone else who does >quite that kind of music. It would be a tough act to >follow. I don't know. I'm no jazz expert but, when I >finally did give a listen to Mingus' own work, I was >blown away. > >Having said that, Joni has continued to collaborate >with jazz musicians and other jazz-like musicians up >to her most recent stuff, so there is definitely a >consistent jazz link. > >> And then I checked in to the jmdl album polls and >> sadly discovered that >> Mingus has been rated as Joni's least popular proper >> album release for >> the last two years. Below 'Wild Things'? Below >> 'Chalk Mark in a >> Rainstorm'? jmdl, I despair of you! I cannot bear >> the idea that Joni >> must think that even we - he most devoted followers >> - are as tone-deaf >> as the critics who gave Mingus such a rough ride. > >Hmm. I've never voted in one of those polls and I >don't like to participate in "best of..." lists >because they're just too fluid for me. How many people >voted on them, and do they have to be jmdl members, or >can anyone vote? Can you vote more than once? > >As far as Joni's stuff is concerned, 'Mingus' would >definitely be right up there, if not at the top, then >certainly very close, and certainly far above 'Wild >things' and 'Chalk Mark'. But that's about as far as >I'm willing to go because, otherwise, it means >creating some kind of "best of" list . > > >===== >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - -- Sprackland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:47:52 +0000 From: John Sprackland Subject: Re: Vote Mingus! Interesting, this question of Joni 'only' writing the words. I find that Joni, like Morrissey, is an artist whose words and vocal style are so overwhelming that regardless of whether the music is written by Joni or Mingus or Klein (or, in Morrissey's case, Marr/Whyte/etc.), there's no doubting that it is a Joni or Morrissey song. I cannot think of Mingus as any less of a 'Joni album' than Blue, Hejira or any other (except the retreads of recent years). Regards John Southport, UK (Hey, curious that the two responses to my post came from Toronto and Seattle - I'm planning to visit both this summer when visiting relatives after a gap of 30 years! See you guys there?) In message <006301c4ffd1$b6ac00f0$6501a8c0@DELL2>, Mark or Travis writes >Catherine McKay wrote: >> >> Maybe it's just me, but I can't see Joni being so put >> off by anything the critics had to say about it that >> she would just quit, although I'm sure it hurt a lot. >> I figured it had more to do with losing Mingus (the >> man) and not being strong enough jazz-wise to go there >> on her own.> >> Having said that, Joni has continued to collaborate >> with jazz musicians and other jazz-like musicians up >> to her most recent stuff, so there is definitely a >> consistent jazz link. > >Mingus is a bit of an anomaly in Joni's catalogue. Except for two >songs, Joni only wrote the words and the music was written by Mingus. >It is a collaborative effort in a musical form that she was really only >a novice in. I don't think she probably would have chosen to pursue >pure jazz if the record had gotten a better reception from the public >and the critics. Joni is more interested in creating new hybrids. She >incorporated what she learned making Mingus into everything that >followed. And again, at the risk of sounding like a broken vinyl sound >recording receptacle, I think what followed Mingus has a lot of value to it. > >Mark E. in Seattle > - -- Sprackland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:58:30 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Carole and Joni Went to a world premiere of Tapestry: The Music of Carole King last night which was very good. The theatre group presenting has done others, including the artistic director9s My Way, which is in the top ten most performed plays in the country. I9m trying to talk him into do something like, Both Sides Now: The Music of Joni Mitchell next. Hope for the best. I have been interviewing candidates for a Sr. AV Specialist position this week. One this morning was explaining here experience with digital recording of her music she has done. I asked her as she was explaining her background if she composed music and she said yes. I asked, 3Who do you consider to be the best singer songwriter of the last 35 years, and you better answer correctly.2 My guys smiled because they know I am a Joni freak. Without a pause, she answered, 3Joni Mitchell.2 We all laughed and I told her she had successfully completed the first part of the interview. Jerry, who is singing You9ve Got a Friend live tonight for a benefit show ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:56:32 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? **I would say that her early work coincided nicely with the zeitgeist if I understand that word correctly... I'm not talking top ten hits but what the majority of people I knew were listening to- csn, james taylor, richie havens, etc I would say this is arguably true too, Kate - Joni did fit in nicely with that clump of West Coast singer-songwriters/folk-rock movement, but it just seems to me to be so much more so in the Court & Spark era, hearing Help Me all over AM radio, and her on the cover of Time and all that. Then starting with Hejira she moved further and further away from the "spirit of the times" which climaxed with the aforementioned Mingus, which found her at an extreme opposite of pop culture. Like John, it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Mingus had been embraced by fans & critics alike instead of shunned. (I skipped Mingus as well) Regardless of what she may say, Joni doesn't like being off the radar screen and WTRF was a blatant attempt to return to the pop format (albeit with mostly jazz-pop composition), and throwing Lionel Ritchie into the mix at the height of his career was certainly no accident. I don't mean any negativity towards WTRF, which I've always thought was a great record, even though I don't think that it nor her near-year long world tour of 1983 re-established her as she had been during her C&S period. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Worthless Thing" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:09:01 -0500 From: "Anne Sandstrom" Subject: re: John Gorka Jenny wrote: Wow Anne, a song a week. That workshop sounds really wonderful. Like songwriting boot camp. I did a weekend workshop with Bob Franke that was very valuable. I really loved his view of songwriting and how important he believes community is. How great that he and John frequented the group. That must have been quite a time. Anne, are you still writing and singing? Hi Jenny. Yes, it was really amazing. I learned a lot. And it was really fun. I don't sing or write much anymore. My voice has deteriorated even more than Joni's. I've often wondered about this. I have a theory that Joni's voice would have changed dramatically, even if she didn't smoke. My voice was quite like hers. People used to remark on it whenever I sang. But now, it's just not 'pretty' anymore. Another of my favorite singers (my favorite, in fact, until I heard Joni) was Julie Andrews. I always thought her voice had a similar timbre and clarity. "Flute-y." And she can no longer sing. So, I wonder if there's something about the structure of similar vocal chords that doesn't fare well over time. Now, I spend time designing and making sailors' valentines. They're intricate shell mosaics. So, I guess like Joni, I've found joy in visual arts. And, like her, I no longer felt the need to write once I found what I'd always been looking for. In my case, true love. (awwww) But 'tis true. So, now, Russ makes the octagonal shadow boxes for my sailors' valenties and I do the mosaic part. Maybe Joni should look for someone who makes frames???? I hope you're staying warm. It's just WAY too cold here in New England. (oh, btw, go Pats!) lots of loveAnne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:19:49 -0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Joe Boyd on London Here's the Joni content http://www.jmdl.com/library/view.cfm?id=115 >Mitchell kept accepting engagements, including, in the > early fall of 1967, an offer by British-based American > record executive and producer Joe Boyd to undertake > a brief tour of Great Britain. "Joe set up a tour with the > Incredible String Band, and some isolated little gigs > without them in small coffee houses," she recalled Just been reading this - which has NJC Renowned UK producer Joe Boyd searches for the London of old and bemoans the fact that "there is no native London musical tradition you can dance to" - in his article on UK folk/ country/roots website, NetRhythms - see SEARCHING FOR THE LOST CHORD - LIVE! by Joe Boyd http://www.netrhythms.co.uk/articles_p1.html#joeboyd [Extract] > The atmosphere generated by live musicians playing > danceable music is impossible to replicate with > recordings. People behave differently towards each other. > Electronic beats have the effect of hardening manners to > match the punch of the rhythm tracks. Watching the music > take shape in front of your eyes and touching your dance > partner softens people. At least that is my experience [Joe Boyd] best to all PaulC - who'd be interested to hear how others' 'hometown scene' has changed over the years ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:44:16 EST From: Justalittlebreen@aol.com Subject: Um corvo preto, volando (sjc) Hi gang, I got Diana Krall's latest in the mail yesterday, but was busy with other packages and only gave it a cursory glance. Then when I got home, I loaded it up into my player, and then comething came up, and I never played it. When my usual insomnia came at 4 a.m., I put the headphones on in the dark, found the play button on the remote by braille, and lay back (I'm used to doing all this so as not to desturb my beloved), not knowing what to expect. I should say that my first and best ex-hubby had turned me on to her. He raved about her, sent me her (I believe) first album, "When I Look In Your Eyes"; I thought it was okay, but he insisted, sent me the album made almost immediately upon the success of the first one, "Stepping Out", that was really a collection of some earlier recorded stuff; when still I balked, he sent me "Only Trust Your Heart"; then "All For You"; then "Love Scenes". Never before had he been so persistent on any other recording artist. Still, while I recognized her incredible pianner-plyin', I didn't much care for her voice. I should say when I met John, I was playing DJRD pretty much non-stop, which will give you an idea of how long ago this was; the first time he came to my dorm room (I was a grad student at the time) and heard "Overture/Cotton Avenue", he said "What's this, Italian science fiction music?" But I won him over, and now he has DJRD in his own collection. Anyway, then I saw DK perform Case on that Joni tribute, fall of 2000 (or 2001?), and I started listening to her again. I bought the CD of her live-in-Paris performance myself. Then, ironically, John reported to me that he didn't much care for the Look Of Love album -- "But John!! It's Bacharach!!" -- and he *really* hated The Girl In The Other Room. "That awful man she's married has ruined her!" "John, are you sure? He's an awfully good lyricist..." "Unlistenable," John insisted. So imagine my surprise at 4 this morning, especially when cut # 8 came on -- I hadn't been on the list much recently, and I'd forgotten it was on the album. And it was Bossa Nova! (I recently suggested that Joni (a) do a Bossa Nova album, and (b) collaborate, possibly with Elvis/Declan M.) What a socko cover (of Black Crow), and it reminded me that the piano in Joni's own version on S&L had a salsa kick to it! Also, the six songs EC & DK wrote together are astonishing, each better than the last. Elvis is not above irony, or wordplay, in the same sense that the ocean is not above the sea, but put to the right uses, his poety is wonderful. And the melodies! I laughed, I cried. And we all know what laughing and crying are. Needless to say, I left John a voice mail reading his beads. Really. Some people -- they send you a measly five or six albums, and they think they own you! love, walt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:10:35 -0500 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Joni Mitchell, 100% JC Good idea. I think Joni Mitchell is an amazing songwriter. Her facility with words puts her in a class of two. Joni & Bob Dylan stand head-and-shoulders above everyone else as story-tellers. Besides what Dylan could do, Joni sang as well as she wrote. Unlike most of her peers, she hired some of the coolest jazz players of her generation. From "Ladies Of The Canyon" onward, she had an unbroken string of 12 amazing albums, a feat not equaled by any solo Beatle. Any band that produced this much high quality material would be very highly regarded indeed. The fact that she wrote almost all of it & produced or co-produced all of it makes Joni a living miracle. I still think this wannabe "critic" had it right: http://www.jonimitchell.com/Duality.html Lama PS, She's no slouch as a visual artist either. How much time have you spent staring at the cover of "The Hissing of Summer Lawns"? Mark in Sydney said, >Does anyone know of another discussion list that actually discusses Joni Mitchell?> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:24:47 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: (was) Um corvo preto, (now) A little nellie music (Note: There is Joni content in this post, but it's at the end. Skip ahead if you want. I have flagged it as JONI CONTENT in all caps.) There's-a-Hole-in-Daddy's-Ear-Where-All-the-Money-Goes Muller wrote: > Hi Walt - it's so cool to see you active here again! I second that one. Even though Walt and I have a decent off-list cards and letters thing goin' on an' on, it's still great to see him back in this forum. I always love to hear what randy smart people are thinking. Which reminds me. I miss Alison. (Is that how she spelled it?) Mr. Music also asks Walt: > Have you by chance picked up Nellie McKay's "Get > Away From Me"? Between her piano playing and humor > I think you would really enjoy it. I loved Nellie's CD, but I haven't been playing it much and that got me to wondering ... is Nellie going to meet the same fate as other "funny" singer/songwriters I've loved and abandoned over the years? Am I the only one this happens to? I can listen to a sad song for decades and still feel like weeping when I hear it for the millionth time. But once I've heard a song that makes me laugh a few times, it's over. It's like listening to a joke I've heard too many times ... yet again. (The only exception to this that I can think of right now is Cole Porter, and I that's probably because he really did take a poet's delight in language and word play. He never did "jokes," per se.) On the other hand, I used to really like Loudon Wainwright III, Rufus's father. (Sidebar: I just checked the spelling of Loudon's name by googling him, and there's a LWIII discussion group at http://www.lwiii.com/lwmllst1.html! Freaks! Who would join such a thing!) Anyway, I used to like Loudon a lot, but then, gradually, I reached my fill. He had brilliantly funny lyrics like, "We used to be in love, now we are in hate, You used to say I came too early, but it was you who came too late." But how many times can you laugh at the same witty lines, no matter how fresh they once were? Humor has to be fresh or it's not funny, in my opinion. And if it's British, it must have two u's in it. So I guess the moral of the story is, "Sad art is long, funny art is brief." (Cough. Hmm.) One other thing: I am now officially on the *Rufus* Wainwright bandwagon, along with all the other wagons I'm on. I have tried to like Rufus for years, and I just didn't. The other night, listening to "Want One," Rufus just clicked with me and now I love him. Here are the lyrics to "Pretty Things," a song I like on the CD. The second line of the lyrics is where you'll find JONI CONTENT: Pretty things, so what if I like pretty things? Pretty lies, so what if I like pretty lies? From where you are To where I am now I need these pretty things Around the planets of my face Everything's a sign of my astrology From where you are To where I am now Is its own galaxy Be a star and fall down somewhere next to me And make it past your color TV This time will pass and with it will me And all these pretty things Don't say you don't notice them XO, - --Smurf Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:20:56 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? Kate**>I would say that her early work coincided nicely with the zeitgeist if I understand that word correctly... I'm not talking top ten hits but what the majority of people I knew were listening to- csn, james taylor, richie havens, etc Bob>I would say this is arguably true too, Kate - Joni did fit in nicely with that clump of West Coast singer-songwriters/folk-rock movement, but it just seems to me to be so much more so in the Court & Spark era, hearing Help Me all over AM radio, and her on the cover of Time and all that. I think you are probably right. by the time court & spark hit I was buying & listening to her stuff as it was released but was no longer listening to radio much at all ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:28:58 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Renee Fleming and Joni I'm sorry if this is repeat, but I don't think a message I posted a few days ago made it into the digest. Anyway, I read earlier this week that Renee Fleming is covering River on an upcoming CD and that Joni made a "surprise" appearance recently at a party honoring Renee (at which Geffen, Streisand and numerous other luminaries appeared). Your Entertainment Tonight Reporter, Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:25:36 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: dealing with everything, JC --- Mark or Travis wrote: >> Guess what, Laura? Sisotowbell is an ACRONYM! > > Somehow in spite of troubles ours will be ever > lasting love. > > I kid you not. > > Take that, Catherine! > > M E I S > I liked it better when I thought it was a kind of flower. Catherine, AHA, IFHA ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Vote Mingus! --- John Sprackland wrote: > (Hey, curious that the two responses to my post came > from Toronto and > Seattle - I'm planning to visit both this summer > when visiting relatives > after a gap of 30 years! See you guys there?) > Hmm. Maybe it was meant to be. Any friend of Joni's is a friend of mine, so come on down. Of course, I do plan to be in the south of France in mid-August or thereabouts with some other Joni-friends of mine but as for the rest of it - I'm always around. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:07:47 -0800 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: John Gorka now pasta Catherine McKay wrote: > > Do you suppose Joni was talking about pasta when she > wrote "Both Sides Now"? > > The opening line is: > Bows* and floes** of angel hair > No. She was talking about that white stuff people used to wrap around the lights and the bottoms of their Christmas trees back in the stone age when i was but a wee lad. Was that spun fiberglass or something like that? I'm sure it was carcenogenic and if you got it anywhere near aluminium foil you might as well kiss your a** goodbye. And I give up, Catherine. What are AHA and IFHA? (I'm afraid to ask) Mark E. in that Spacey Needle place ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #21 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)