From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #18 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, January 19 2005 Volume 2005 : Number 018 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Bunk! 100% JC [Jamie Zubairi ] Joni Prints? [tinkersown@comcast.net] Re: Number One ? Where's LN top 10? ["Happy The Man" ] Happy birthday MG... ["Les Irvin" ] Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? ["Michael O'Malley" Subject: Re: Bunk! 100% JC I would sort of agree with you there Lama but... She wanted to do an orchestral album after working with his music on the first Walden Woods project that she sang on, she was THRILLED with the depth and the complexity of his arrangements on the songs that she sang, so having been given the chance to work with him on two projects was great. He arranged her music, he didn't produce it. And I can imagine that Joni would be giving final approval on the score before it even went to studio to record. Not to mention weeks of to-ing and fro-ing with Vince on how she wants each song to sound, but leaving it up to the experts to realise. More like conceptual art - you come up with the idea and someone else makes it for you... Keep having these random thoughts... Much Joni Jamie Zoob --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > Here's one random thought. > > Conventional wisdom is that after "Dog Eat Dog", > Joni swore off producers. > > Bunk. What are "Both Sides Now" and "Travelogue" > but Joni doing it Vince's > way? > > All the best, > Lam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:10:02 +0000 From: tinkersown@comcast.net Subject: Joni Prints? Does anyone have a signed or unsigned Taming The Tiger or Both Sides Now (either side) litho they might be willing to sell? *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@comcast.net "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:33:57 -0600 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Re: Number One ? Where's LN top 10? Any list with Patty Griffin and Townes Van Zandt would get my attention. Craig NP: Patty Griffin - Impossible Dream - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:05 AM Subject: Re: Number One ? Where's LN top 10? > Patty Griffin & John Gorka would be on my list of top > singer/songwriters... > both with incredible voices & incredible songs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:00:00 -0600 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: Common JMDL Acronyms You forgot your favorite, Smurph! PMIACAHWTN! (pinned me in a corner and he won't take no!) Hugs, my blue friend, Steve >>> Robert Murphy 1/13/2005 10:36:57 PM >>> NJC - No Joni Content SJC - Some Joni/Small Joni Content VLJC - Very Little Joni Content IMHO - In My Humble Opinion (sometimes IMO) BTW - By The Way LOL - Laughing Out Loud ROTFL - Rolling On the Floor Laughing NP - Now Playing jimdle - a list member STAS - "Song To A Seagull" LOTC - "Ladies of the Canyon" FTR - "For The Roses" C&S - "Court and Spark" MOA - "Miles of Aisles" THOSL - "The Hissing of Summer Lawns" DJRD - "Don Juan's Reckless Daughter" SAL - "Shadows and Light" WTRF - "Wild Things Run Fast" CMIARS - "Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm" DED - "Dog Eat Dog" NRH - "Night Ride Home" TI - "Turbulent Indigo" TTT - "Taming the Tiger" BSN = "Both Sides Now" And some new ones: YNLD = "Your Notches Liberation Doll" TTATTAPEIATM = "They Took All the Trees and Put 'Em in a Tree Museum" PADATLM = "Prostitutes and Destitues and Temptresses Like Me" AUFAGOSCF = Anybody Up for a Game of Secret Covers Frissbee?" TNDSBTT = "That Night Down South Between the Trailers" GMcGIAGA = "Former Governor McGreavey Is a Gay American" WTFIWCAAA? = "What the Fuck Is with Catherine and Acronyms Anyway" IIHIHOIIJW = "Is It Hot In Here Or Is It Just Wally?" TTGOAOL = "Time to Get Off AOL" Smurf -- now powered by bigger pipes! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:39:55 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Happy birthday MG... Joniphiles - Tomorrow is the 46th anniversary of Mary Grace's birth. I was looking back through the archives of the early days of the list and was reminded again of the wealth of heart, humor, and humility she left us with in her writing. I miss reading her posts so I'm resending an old one she wrote almost 8 years ago... You are missed, Mary Grace! Les - -------- From: MGVal Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 Subject: First turned onto Joni (riddled with overkill, no physical contact...) My sister started it all for me. She was the token hippie in the family and we shared a bedroom. It's 1970 and I am 11 years old. I know that sounds precocious, but I think she is sick of having to share her record player with me. And I play the same LP over and over and over and over. What is it? The Monkees? 1910 Fruitgum Company? The Osmond Five? No, it is the long playing version of the New York Mets and their '69 Miracle Season. That was my very first album and I loved it. From the opening bars of some dirge to the CRACK! of the ball on the bat; this piece of vinyl had it all. And I still think about it. She took that LP and smashed it to pieces in a sisterly fit one hot, humid summer weekend. She got in so much trouble for saying "shit," (as in: "I'm not gonna listen to this shit anymore!"), that the loss of the LP was almost worth it. That was it. I had nothing else in my record collection. I was forced to listen to Joni...Joni...Joni....Joni. At first, I didn't think it came close to the Met's theme: (Meet the Mets, Greet the Mets....), but it started to sink in, I started to hum along and soon I started to wonder along. Pat showed me how to really look at an album, see the art, notice the "Produced by David Crosby," (huh? does he play shortstop for the Yankees???). It was the tiny seed that produced a hardy flowering. It was also the last time we were close and so my fondness for all things Joni has a special poignant beginning to the whole thing. Spewing out less than usual, (whew!) MG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 03:27:37 +0000 From: "Michael O'Malley" Subject: Where will Joni be on CBC's 50 Tracks? This past summer, the CBC put together a summer-long radio show where revolving panels of judges, composed of invited music critics, musicians, and other know-it-alls, put together a list of the 50 essential pop music tracks of the 20th century. An essential track was defined as a tune with an undeniably great melody and great lyrics; a great hook that was easily recognizable; a song that captured the spirit of its time, all the while being original and different enough to act as a trailblazer, setting a new standard or style. Now that's a tall order, and I think it was difficult to apply all these criteria rigourously to all the songs that finally made it to the list. However, a list did evolve, controversial as it is, and you can check it out on the show's website at http://www.cbc.ca/50tracks/essentialpopmusic.html This past summer, a new decade was covered each week. Suggestions were put forth and hotly debated. The radio audience could vote by phone and email. In fact, 10 spots on the list, as well as the final numerical order of the winning songs, were chosen entirely by listeners' suggestions and votes. At one point during the 70's segment, a Joni tune was advanced by lead singer Carol Pope, of ex Rough Trade fame. Her pick was River. A hot debate ensued, which put it in a tie position with Lou Reed's Walk on the Wild Side. Listeners were then asked to vote for one of the two, and over a few weeks, River was eventually bumped off by Reed's great classic. Fair enough, it easily dashes River in that context. But ouch, that hurt so bad. Joni did not make it back onto the list during the other decades. (We wont even talk about The Greatest Canadian TV show debacle!) Imagine! A 20th century best-of-pop list without Joni. Such heresy, especially on the CBC! Many listeners were upset about this, but hey, the tribe had spoken. NOW, during the next three months, CBC is redoing a Canadian version of the list, and Joni's place will surely be rightfully redeemed. No one had questioned Joni's artistic legacy and her right to be on that first list, but the votes were for the song, not the artist. And River was simply not a strong enough choice. The problem with Joni is finding that one, undeniably great song. For the pop generalist then, which of Joni's songs could truly fulfil all these criteria as an essential track and beat off contenders? I began searching for candidates from her earliest work: I Had a King - hauntingly beautiful, but not well known. The same could be said of Marcie.Cactus Tree? is that her first great pop tune? Is it an essential track? The obvious choices from Clouds are Chelsea Morning and BSN. Not favourites of mine personally. I much prefer the 2000 version of BSN. Of course, both are classics and have been covered extensively. From LOTC, Circle Game and Woodstock are classics, but perhaps a bit dirgy as sung by Joni.The CSNY version of Woodstock has a good chance to get on the list, but there are no Joni vocals! How about Ladies of the Canyon itself?How about (shudder) BYT? Is that ultimately the only song powerful enough to finally immortalise Joni on such a list ?? The problem is, it *is* a great pop song! Are we destined to be doomed by jukebox Joni !? From Blue, the obvious choice would be ACOY. What say you? What's an essential Joni track, JMDLers? I'll be following this new Canadian list closely as it evolves. Listener voting will begin next week. I'll keep you posted. Stay tuned! Michael in Quebec - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't just Search. Find! The new MSN Search: Fast. Clear. 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Michael O'Malley wrote: > What say you? What's an > essential Joni track, JMDLers? 1 You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio 2 California ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2005 #18 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)