From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #350 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 9 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 350 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni in Fiction VLJC ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Another Joni Re-Release on DVD ["mike pritchard" ] OOOPS ["Scott and Jody" ] Re: Woodstock Grammy Win [BRYAN8847@aol.com] Symposium video/audio available ["Les Irvin" ] Re: Joni in Fiction VLJC [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Is it possible? /Joni ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Joni Cover/Is it possible? ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Joni Cover/Smokestack Lightnin'? [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: FTR [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] brian kennedy, was RE: Joni in Fiction - vljc ["patrick leader" ] Re: Joni in Fiction VLJC [Emiliano ] Re: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 59 - THE BEER CONSPIRACY! [Emiliano Subject: Joni in Fiction VLJC One for the Joni in Fiction Archivist..... Just finished reading a so-so book The Arrival of Fergal Flynn recommended to me by my niece. She works for the well known and highly regarded Publisher (Hodder Headline Ireland) who are reported to be 'very excited' about it. Having just finished it, it strikes me as little more than a teenage fantasy set against a gritty (read horrendous) backdrop. A story about a young Belfast lad growing up in the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland and victim of extreme abuse by his family and at school who is discovered to be a wonderful singer and is whisked away to Rome to be taught by one of the finest singing coaches. Yeah, that's about it, you've read it, believe me. It's written by Brian Kennedy who's better known for his singing and 'platinum-selling' albums like The Great War of Words and Get on With Your Short Life. I've never heard of him so can't comment on his singing or style. The blurb on the book states that he's had a show on BBC called Brian Kennedy on Song. Again, never heard of it. But Joni gets a hefty mention in a romantic scene where the hero of the piece is falling in reciprocated love with the new young Priest. Father Mac searched his record collection nervously, buying time. 'Do you mind if I put some music on? I always fall asleep with music on, turned down low so I can still hear the phone or the doorbell - ' 'Sure. What've you got?' Fergal moved over to him..etc 'I don't know - let me see - Ella, Billy, Frank...Oh, I know, let's have some Joni Mitchell. Do you like Joni?' 'I don't really know. I've never heard of her.' 'What? Well you're in for the biggest treat of your life, and hopefully the start of a love affair that will only get better as you get older.' Father Mac blushed as he realised what he'd said. 'Ah, no - no, I meant with Joni's music, a love affair with her music.' A little later on it refers to Joni singing like a 'beautiful lonely blackbird'. Not the comparison I'd have made but there you have it. Les (in London and desparate for a new book to read to clear his palette..) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:31:03 +0100 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Re: Another Joni Re-Release on DVD >>Due for release according to Videoflicks.com on January 11, 2005 is "The Joni Mitchell Collector's Edition" DVD which is a two disc set featuring....uh..."Painting With Words And Music" and "Woman Of Heart And Mind." << I already have this double DVD set. I already had the 'Painting' DVD but the other was available until now, at least a Zone 2 version. So now I have 2 copies of 'Painting'. Gill, want a free copy? When you coming over? mike in barcelona ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:44:07 -0500 From: "Scott and Jody" Subject: OOOPS Please disregard my last email. thanks, jody ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 14:55:16 -0500 From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Re: Woodstock Grammy Win Brian - That was last year's Grammy list (not the list of nominations released yesterday). I had forgotten though that Travelogue was honored with a Grammy for Woodstock...some praise at least for that much-maligned CD. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:02:53 -0700 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Symposium video/audio available Joniphiles - McGill University has graciously provided complete video of the Joni Mitchell Symposium from October 27 on their website (check it out: http://www.mcgill.ca/music/events/jmitchell_symposium/). Many thanks to them for making it available. It's a bit inconvenient, however, as it's streaming video and takes a great deal of patience (about 6 hours worth) to watch it in one sitting. Sooooo..... I've captured the video, converted it, and am offering it up to anyone who'd like it. There are a number of formats and a couple of ways to get it. It is available right now for download in the Joni file-sharing hub. More info here: http://jmdl.com/p2pinfo.txt Or, I'll mail you copies under the condition that you first mail me: 1) the appropriate blank media with 2) a return mailing label and 3) enough extra postage to get it back to you. You have three snail mail options to choose from: 1) MP3 audio only. Send me one blank CD-R. 2) Video in WMV format - playable on a PC using Windows Media Player (and probably on a MAC?). Send me 2 blank CD-Rs. The returned CDs will also include the MP3 audio. 3) DVD format - playable on your DVD player. Send me 2 blank DVD+Rs or DVD-Rs. Disclaimer on the DVDs: 3x5 inch video that looks good on a computer screen loses "a bit" of resolution expanded to the TV screen. It's a bit grainy and ghosty but still better than staring at the computer for 6 hours! No need to clear it with me first, just send away. Within the package, remind me as to exactly what format you'd like. I'll burn them usually the same day I get them and send the goods right back to you. Send to: Joni Symposium Offer c/o Les Irvin 662 Crosstrail Dr Colorado Springs, CO 80906 USA And when you get the goods, if you can pass a copy along to others - FOR FREE - please do so... Thanks! Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:57:12 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni in Fiction VLJC **It's written by Brian Kennedy who's better known for his singing and 'platinum-selling' albums like The Great War of Words and Get on With Your Short Life. I'm assuming this is the same Brian Kennedy who recorded the knockout version of "A Case Of You". Definitely a renaissance man if he's as good an author as he is a singer. Bob NP: Ani, "Back Back Back" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 19:56:56 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Is it possible? /Joni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:05:11 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Joni Cover/Is it possible? Has anyone ever heard of a band called Wheatfield? I saw them a week or so ago and she covered "Conversation" and he covered BYT. They are 2 people from a local Houston band from the 1970's. I bought their CD and it has a bluegrass version of our Joni's Conversation on it! Bob - SCjoniguy - (JoniBob) do you have this one? love db >>> 12/08/04 5:57 PM >>> **It's written by Brian Kennedy who's better known for his singing and 'platinum-selling' albums like The Great War of Words and Get on With Your Short Life. I'm assuming this is the same Brian Kennedy who recorded the knockout version of "A Case Of You". Definitely a renaissance man if he's as good an author as he is a singer. Bob NP: Ani, "Back Back Back" This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:17:01 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Cover/Is it possible? **Bob - SCjoniguy - (JoniBob) do you have this one?** Very cool! No Donna, I have not heard of it & do not have it. A bluegrass version of Conversation...man oh man, I am chomping at the bit to hear it! And it's funny, because out of ALL the BSN's I've accumulated I didn't have a bluegrass version...a couple of Woodstocks, but no BSN. Well just this week I get this 1976 LP from banjoist Eddie Shelton with a true bluegrass take on BSN...also appearing on the record, playing dobro, is none other than Vince Gill! (And of course Vince is married to Amy Grant who's done BYT, so the Joni covers world is very incestuous!) So it's been a big hoedown week for me - after all when it comes to Joni covers, I ain't nuthin' but a ho'! Thanks for sharing the info, Donna - big hug from SC - love ya gal! Bob Patti Witten, "Last Looks" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:36:14 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: FTR was wondering if anyone else gets the feeling that Banquet and JOTMAS are perfectly balanced bookends to the rest of the record? I mean maybe in a way Banquet is "lighter" in the sense it would register lesser weight on a scale..but still the 2 songs are like "related", right? There's a few phrases etc in Banquet that ID it as a 20th century song, but otherwise I feel these songs are twin brothers, Pollux and Castor-like maybe in a sense. Diff strengths and attributes but more of the same *sort* than the other tunes. More timeless than the other tunes. Or??? I don't *need* anyone to agree with me per se..more like would love to hear any opinions... :) Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:00:01 EST From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Cover/Smokestack Lightnin'? Ho'Bo' writes: > So it's been a big hoedown week for me - after all when it comes to Joni > covers, I ain't nuthin' but a ho'! > So, when a ho' gits down, that's a ho'down? Here's a question for the Southern men and women here. What exactly is 'smokestack lightning'? I am currently addicted to Etta James's version of the song, now that I no longer drink alcohol or smoke cigs, and I have tried finding an answer to this question on line, but I just keep coming up with covers of the song. XO, - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:08:48 EST From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: FTR Yeah, your point is well made about the bookends, Em. Banquet generally is a song that decries the inequities in the world, and then she walks you through the gallery of the album, looking at some self-portraits and some observations about others, and by the end of it there's the "you've got to shake your fists like lightning" stuff, as if to say that you've got to find the strength to go on, even with all the inequities and all the shit that happens along the way. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "I Wanna Be Loved" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:27:56 -0500 From: "patrick leader" Subject: brian kennedy, was RE: Joni in Fiction - vljc ahh, brian kennedy, when joni did a west coast tour with dylan and van morrison in may 1998, i attended three shows in los angeles with a great contingent of listers. brian kennedy was singing back-up for van, and a bunch of us (especially kakki and i) bonded over his sexy charm, good looks and truly gorgeous irish tenor. i love his version of 'a case of you' as well. he was a guest singer for some version of 'riverdance on broadway' a couple of years ago and during the run he played a series of monday night dates at 'arlene's grocery' a tiny rock club on the lower east side (very close to 'the living room' actually). i saw him there, too, with a bunch of rowdy expats. great show. he's also rather adamantly bisexual, claiming that to identify as gay or straight would be unfair to half the folks he loves. he said, "sometimes i'm so confused, i don't know which end is up" a truly magnificent double-entendre. i'd like to help him with his dilemma... i have two albums and a couple of other songs. plenty to love, but my favourite is an album called 'a better man' patrick np - todd rundgren, 'afterlife' "the child is so sweet, and the girls are so rapturous. isn't it lovely how artists can capture us?" 'children and art', from sondheim's 'sunday in the park with george' > >It's written by Brian Kennedy who's better known for his singing and >'platinum-selling' albums like The Great War of Words and Get on With Your >Short ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:50:44 +0000 From: Lance Michel Subject: Message and Update from Sir Lance.... Howdy All... Thank you to you all who have been so kind and loving and sent your positive thoughts and wishes my way...I hope I will have a chance to stay in touch with many of you... Alot of you have written and asked 'how things are going'...? Well, I have been very busy at work the past couple of weeks; so that has been good in some ways (distracting...Though there is no real distraction from this, and maybe there shouldn't be...?), but also kind of tiring... Unfortunately things at work are kinda rough as well, and have been for a few months...I have been covering a higher up position for 7-months now, and my job is refusing to fully acknowledge that, and/or properly compensate me for it...I am very ready to quit; but alas, I need another position first...But that isn't really what this message is about. In general I have been 'alright'...I am just trying to stay active, healthy, exercising more, meditating more; trying to keep things in perspective, but also allow myself to feel what I feel... So, I am up and down a bit...Less drastic then when Karen first left, but still having some trouble maintaining my regular breathing; and feeling kinda raw just under the surface...But I am also feeling fairly strong; it is a very odd combination of emotions. Today was rough though...Work was hard, and then I came home to a message from Karen...A pleasant one, but still no real explanation of anything; and it just really hurt to not have her 'here' anymore...I miss her very much. There is definitely a good part of me that does not want to be treated to the kind of avoidance, non-commuinication, and unresponsive manner in which she often dealt with the relationship; that kind of behaviour is not in my emotional vocabulary, and I think I 'deserve' more from a partner (I hate using that word 'deserve' though)... But then I know the other side of the coin as well; where we would share much love, enjoyment, laughs, confidence and caring for one another... And I miss her prescence, her friendship... So tonight I broke-down and cried again for awhile...I cried and I prayed... I asked the Universe to please please tell me there is someone in this world who has the emotional skills to really be 'in' a relationship, someone who loves me for me and has an eye on the 'long-run'... It is my nature to look at things from all sides (alright there's my Joni content...lol...She and I do share 3/4 of the same planetary natal chart actually...;-) And trying to be as objective as possible...Ah, hell, I think I am over intellectualizing things...The fact of the matter is that I didn't do anything to set off Karen actions...Not to blow my own horn (although I guess if I could do that maybe I wouldn't have a girlfriend to begin with...sorry couldn't resist...), but I really am a good guy...Maybe that's my problem, I don't know...? I mean, I am a very emotionally equipped, good, strong, sensitive, loving man, and much more, and I have alot to share...So, where is my lady...? I'm sorry to have rambled on so much folks...It has been a rough night... I am not falling into that 'this will never end' space; but, well, maybe a tad...I just so want someone to share my life with, and start a family with...Do I 'need' that someone for me to be me, no...But I am soooo at that point in my life... Thank you for letting me vent again y'all...I still feel like cryin', but at least I haven't while I have been writing this... Peas and Love be with you all, and I will speak individually with many of you soon...I hope you all are doing well... Sir Lance ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:54:12 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Joni in Fiction VLJC Hi, Ross! Oh: it really seems a very uninteresting book! But... don't you know Brian ("Bap") Kennedy??? He's very known for singing along with Van Morrison (The Healing Game era), both in studio and in tour. Plus, he's got a very beautiful rendition of a song called something laike A Case Of You (a cover very similar- uninspired, though) About this Brian Kennedy On Song... I know a couple of tunes from that song that are included as a bonus in a bottleg from his show at The Waterfront, Belfast, called Brian Kennedy on Song (15 March 2003), in which he sings with The Dubliners, Phil Coulter, Kevin Kennedy & The McPeakes... surely the are musicians Garret knows about them... Well... Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Marriage Chant, by Greg Brown PS: Thank you, Bob, for remembering about me - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Ross, Les" [...] > > It's written by Brian Kennedy who's better known for his singing and > 'platinum-selling' albums like The Great War of Words and Get on With Your > Short Life. I've never heard of him so can't comment on his singing or > style. The blurb on the book states that he's had a show on BBC called Brian > Kennedy on Song. Again, never heard of it. > > But Joni gets a hefty mention in a romantic scene where the hero of the > piece is falling in reciprocated love with the new young Priest. > > > > Father Mac searched his record collection nervously, buying time. 'Do you > mind if I put some music on? I always fall asleep with music on, turned down > low so I can still hear the phone or the doorbell - ' > > 'Sure. What've you got?' Fergal moved over to him..etc > > 'I don't know - let me see - Ella, Billy, Frank...Oh, I know, let's have > some Joni Mitchell. Do you like Joni?' > > 'I don't really know. I've never heard of her.' > > 'What? Well you're in for the biggest treat of your life, and hopefully the > start of a love affair that will only get better as you get older.' Father > Mac blushed as he realised what he'd said. 'Ah, no - no, I meant with Joni's > music, a love affair with her music.' > > > A little later on it refers to Joni singing like a 'beautiful lonely > blackbird'. Not the comparison I'd have made but there you have it. > > Les (in London and desparate for a new book to read to clear his palette..) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 15:54:37 +0100 From: Emiliano Subject: Re: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 59 - THE BEER CONSPIRACY! Hi! This Beer conspiracy it's a good one, yeah! but I'd guess that the way times are running with the r.i.a.a. , copyright matters and so, maybe it would be better not to take this pretension of appearing in Guinness Records seriously... It's a pretty dream the way you paint it, Nuri: Thanks! And some dozens more for friends, please! Have a Wonderful time! Emiliano NP: Spring Wind, by Greg Brown (hey, I can't nor want stop spinning this man's songs!) - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Nuriel Tobias" ... > SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote:**cause if it IS the greatest compilation (of an artist's covers) series in Rock & Roll history, i see no reason why not to inform this to the Guinnes Book Of Records at once!** > > > > "I certainly don't have any objections, though it's not anything that particularly I'm enthusiastic about" > > And why, if i may ask, aren't you? It's not like you're claiming a record for baring a child with 3 heads. It's Joni we're talking about, and imoh, this could be a fine tribute to her and one of the best "Joni mentions" ever. That book is so popular, particularly among the younger generation ALL OVER THE WORLD - why not spread the word in a way that is, basicly, fun? - and it's not only about freaks and people walking round the globe backwards - the ART/MUSIC related records section is really good as well as most of the other sections. If there's a "problem" with letting the world know about the compilations, i'll understand. And i respect your humility. But once you see your name and Joni's and maybe the jmdl in The Guinnes, i think you'd be pleased. We all would. For God sakes, Bob, it can be so cool! > > > " - I'll only say that any monies that Guinness would donate go directly to Les for JMDL operations. > > I knew you'd do nothing other than that, that's why i didn't even speak of it. That's another good reason to go for it. > > Oy...I might as well talk to the hand. Won't be surprsied if you're np R. Lee's "It's more trouble than it's worth" lyric. Won't be too long before we all start painting... > > Anyway, Bob, it's up to you. I think (am not sure of it, but i think) that only you can apply for the record. But in case others can do it in your name, maybe someone should do so, cause i'm slowing down and getting tired. > > Nuri > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 02:03:07 -0500 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: December 9 On December 9 the following articles were published: 1975: "Smug Joni, Upbeat Neil sing of Californias People" - Detroit News http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=992 1975: "Dylan Returns to Garden With Rolling Thunder Revue" - New York Times http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=831 1995: "Billboard honors Joni Mitchell with its highest accolade" - Billboard http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=56 1995: "Joni Mitchell - A Portrait of the Artist" - Billboard http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=49 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #350 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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