From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #327 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 16 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 327 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Covers & Cash [BRYAN8847@aol.com] RE: New Joni cover coming in January (onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #325) ["Timot] Big Yellow Taxi - (Guarantess and Insecurities) [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: Big Yellow Taxi - (Guarantess and Insecurities) [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: goodbye ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: goodbye [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: ["FredNow" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 03:11:36 EST From: BRYAN8847@aol.com Subject: Covers & Cash Joni may be retired, but her songs are anything but! 2004 was a HUGE year for Joni covers and 2005 promises to be killer as well. Yes, Joni may be laughing all the way to the bank with songwriting and publishing royalties these days (more power to her, I say), probably as much or more than ever. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:22:23 +0000 From: "Timothy Spong" Subject: RE: New Joni cover coming in January (onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #325) On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Bob Muller SCJoniGuy@aol.com> wrote (on Subject: New Joni cover from Ju >Joni may be retired, but her songs are anything but! 2004 was a HUGE year >for Joni covers and 2005 promises to be killer as well. I just heard that >none >other than Judy Collins herself will kick off the new year with a cover of >"That Song About The Midway" on her new release in January. > >More on this story as it develops. > >Bob, 1625 Joni covers strong > >NP: X, "Make The Music Go Bang" Comment: Did you hear Judy performing "That Song About The Midway" on her new release -- whose title will be "Portrait" -- in January by hearing Judy singing that, and some other songs, live on Public Radio International's "Mountain Stage"? If not, see if you can catch up with it. I heard said program Sunday from 5-7 p.m. on WKHS, Worton, Md., simulcasting the signal from WXPN, Philadelphia. Another staion in my region, WSDL -- studio in Salisbury, Md., licensed to provide a city-grade signal in Ocean City, Md., from transmitting facilities in Frankford, Del. -- recently started playing "Mountain Stage" on Sundays at 7 p.m. and on Saturdays at 4. If you go the Web site for Mountain Stage, you can find what stations, if any, in your region play it, and which stations stream it online, therefore available anywhere in the world for those equipped for streaming Intenet audio. As different stations play this program at different times, maybe one or more will still air -- and stream -- this in the coming week. Anyway, Judy's rendition of "That Song About The Midway" is much like Joni's and Bonnie Raitt's recordings in overall flavor, but, of course, it's Judy's voice -- which is still fine at age 65.5. Judy, whom I have seen and heard perform live seven times -- more than any other major artist -- is coming to Annapolis, Md.'s, Ramshead Tavern Live Onstage on Dec. 2 -- about 60 mi./108 km from me. However, the nominal price of a ticket is $71.50, and tax is additional, and a handling charge for online or telephone purchases (avoidable if purchased at the door, if not sold out) is on top of that, and I shall not be going. Tim Spong Dover, Del., U.S.A. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:56:12 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Big Yellow Taxi - (Guarantess and Insecurities) Hi my Friends, A question regarding the term "Big Yellow Taxi". If you don't mind, a short "introduction" to my question:) While poetry (need i say, Joni's first of all) leaves me breathless - i'm really loving it when a silly pop-lyric, a "hit" by some silly pop-girl, that everyobody dances too but don't hear a word said in it, is as much as poetry as poetry may be. (In it's silly-popness lyric style). Anyway, one of my all times silly-pop lyrics (which i find to be a lovely silly-pop-poetry) is Jantet Jackson's major 80's hit "The Pleasure Priniciple". (I've added the lyrics by the end of the post, in case you're interested in finding out what i think is "lovely silly-pop-poetry") Anyway, one of the lyrics in Jante's song, is: "It's true you want to build your life on guarantees Hey, take a ride in a big yellow taxi I'm not here to feed your insecurities I wanted you to love me". My question is 1. Is the term "Big Yellow Taxi" an American expression that Joni used? 2. Is it a term that Joni invented? ( I know that Taxies are yellow and often big, but - 3. In case it is a Joni expression that Janet quated (and surely she's aware of Joni's song) - What has taking a ride in a big yellow taxi has to do with one's obsession to "Build his life on guarantess" and "Feeding one's insecurities"? I'd love to know and learn for i see now that "Big Yellow Taxi" is an expression that has a "secret" meaning i'm not aware of:) Yours, Nuriel (Here's Janet song - THE PLEASURE PRINCIPLE) You might think I'm crazy but I'm serious It's better you know now What I thought was happiness was only part time bliss You can take a bow It was all just one big night out on the town Riding in your limousine We turned right and I said wrong which brings us to a stop As the light is changing Oh my meters running so I got to go now It's the pleasure principle It's true you want to build your life on guarantees Hey, take a ride in a big yellow taxi I'm not here to feed your insecurities I wanted you to love me This has become an all too familiar scene It's not the first time I paid the fare Where'd you get the idea of material possession? Thank you for the ride nowhere And oh my meters running so I've really got to go It's the pleasure principle I know, what you mean to me Baby this is nowhere You know what came in between you and me, human differential It's the pleasure principle You might say that I'm no good for you I wouldn't trust your looks, baby, if I could I got so many things I wanna do, before I'm through It's the pleasure principle Baby you can't hold me down Baby you can't hold me down now After all that night that we've been through After all you've put me through Love me Just love me Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:52:27 EST From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Yellow Taxi - (Guarantess and Insecurities) Since "wanted" is in the past tense, I assume the "take a ride..." line means "get out of my life." (and don't slam the screen door behind you.) LAHM ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:11:46 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: New Joni cover coming in January I heard Judy sing this live only once, the first time I saw her, the Meriwether Post Pavilion, 1968. It was after the huge success of Wildflowers. She also sang My Father, Someday Soon, and others that would end up on her Who Knows Where the Time Goes album which followed. I'm sure it was considered for inclusion on that record, especially since the success of Chelsea Morning. Jerry > On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Bob Muller SCJoniGuy@aol.com> wrote (on Subject: New > Joni cover from Ju> >> Joni may be retired, but her songs are anything but! 2004 was a HUGE year >> for Joni covers and 2005 promises to be killer as well. I just heard that >> none >> other than Judy Collins herself will kick off the new year with a cover of >> "That Song About The Midway" on her new release in January. >> >> More on this story as it develops. >> >> Bob, 1625 Joni covers strong >> >> NP: X, "Make The Music Go Bang" > > > Comment: > > Did you hear Judy performing "That Song About The Midway" on her new > release -- whose title will be "Portrait" -- in January by hearing Judy > singing that, and some other songs, live on Public Radio International's > "Mountain Stage"? If not, see if you can catch up with it. I heard said > program Sunday from 5-7 p.m. on WKHS, Worton, Md., simulcasting the signal > from WXPN, Philadelphia. Another staion in my region, WSDL -- studio in > Salisbury, Md., licensed to provide a city-grade signal in Ocean City, Md., > from transmitting facilities in Frankford, Del. -- recently started playing > "Mountain Stage" on Sundays at 7 p.m. and on Saturdays at 4. If you go the > Web site for Mountain Stage, you can find what stations, if any, in your > region play it, and which stations stream it online, therefore available > anywhere in the world for those equipped for streaming Intenet audio. As > different stations play this program at different times, maybe one or more > will still air -- and stream -- this in the coming week. > > Anyway, Judy's rendition of "That Song About The Midway" is much like > Joni's and Bonnie Raitt's recordings in overall flavor, but, of course, it's > Judy's voice -- which is still fine at age 65.5. Judy, whom I have seen and > heard perform live seven times -- more than any other major artist -- is > coming to Annapolis, Md.'s, Ramshead Tavern Live Onstage on Dec. 2 -- about > 60 mi./108 km from me. However, the nominal price of a ticket is $71.50, and > tax is additional, and a handling charge for online or telephone purchases > (avoidable if purchased at the door, if not sold out) is on top of that, and > I shall not be going. > > Tim Spong > Dover, Del., U.S.A. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:35:01 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Big Yellow Taxi - (Guarantess and Insecurities) Do you mean that the idea of "one's getting out of one's life" started with that "Old Man taken away" in Joni's "Big Yellow Taxi" or is a "Big Yellow Taxi" ride means, in the U.S.A. - bye bye, love? Nuriel p.s. Notice that Janet song is all about riding in a man's fancy car, trying to impress the girl with money and stuff, so it could be that she meant to say something like "Wanna feel what's it like to be an ordinary girl? Take a ride in a cab. But we're not here do talk about Janet's songs... Dflahm@aol.com wrote: Since "wanted" is in the past tense, I assume the "take a ride..." line means "get out of my life." (and don't slam the screen door behind you.) LAHM Meet the all-new My Yahoo!  Try it today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:42:05 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: Covers & Cash Hi Bryan, Sorry, love, but what exactly is that power you were talking about?...Tell me you were kidding...You weren't, right?:) Love (or money) Nuriel BRYAN8847@aol.com wrote: Joni may be retired, but her songs are anything but! 2004 was a HUGE year for Joni covers and 2005 promises to be killer as well. Yes, Joni may be laughing all the way to the bank with songwriting and publishing royalties these days (more power to her, I say), probably as much or more than ever. Bryan The all-new My Yahoo!  Get yours free! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:00:15 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: goodbye No! No! No! No one hit the road! Please remain calm! I've been with this list almost since its inception and I have seen many people come and go and come back again. Take a break if you need to...delete the digests for a while or just become a lurker but don't leave! We have become a network of friends as well as a family and trust me, after doing that, when you walk away...it is very painful because we're all kind of joined at the hip with each other no matter how vehemently we disagree. Sometimes you have to take a break from the list to find your direction with your "life path". Sometimes the list gets in the way of it. Sometimes it is part of the direction. There is much to learn here about ourselves and each other here. It can be very painful but I have found that what is more painful (If you are not really sure about it) is to walk away from the list and unsubscribe. There's an emptiness there that from my experience is hard to describe. I am just asking that if you want to walk away from the list, know that you know that this is what you want to do. From my experience, if you walk away because you are hurt or because you feel that you offended someone, it just leaves a bigger hole in your heart and magnifies the sadness you are already feeling. If indeed it is time for a permanent change then there is a brighter horizon waiting for you. I just hate to see people unsubscribe in haste. There is more to this list than meets the eye. It is so unlike any other. Okay, back to my corner.... Sherelle Em wrote: I don't recall brandishing a pitchfork. But if I did, please let me know - I will hit the highway too. Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:59:49 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: goodbye Victor...Please...Please don't...I remember that day, was really a bad day, then i listened to one of your songs...And in your music i found peace...YOU ARE PEACE, Victor...Saying goodbye is when all your dreams fade and die...but they never do...Surely not yours...Don't let this goodbye echo in your head once you're out there...there's no peace out there, Victor...none wheatsoever...this madhouse is where it's at...Please don't...oh no no no...The only way is down... Yours, Nuri Victor Johnson wrote: > [Original Message] > From: Em > To: Victor Johnson ; Lori Fye > Cc: > Date: 11/14/04 6:12:35 AM > Subject: Re: politics and the list NJC PC - and depression > > --- Victor Johnson wrote: > > No I don't believe that all people CHOOSE to be depressed. > > Just wishing you peace, Victor. > > Em > > Thank you. I'm tired of this squabbling. It does not bring me peace. I've been on this list since early 1999, have attended paz fest and five jonifests, and immortalized them in the song, Parsonage Lane, written on Sept 10, 2001. But maybe its time to move on. I can't take this anymore. Victor "I'm not one who make believes I know that leaves are green They only turn to brown when autumn comes around I know just what I say Today's not yesterday And all things have an ending" Stevie Wonder - Visions Victor Johnson New cd "Parsonage Lane" available now Produced by Chris Rosser at Hollow Reed Studios, Asheville http://www.waytobluemusic.com Meet the all-new My Yahoo!  Try it today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 08:10:24 +0100 From: "FredNow" Subject: Re: :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.exe] ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #327 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)