From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #320 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 9 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 320 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Hello ["Wallykai" ] Re: ["FredNow" ] Re; ivoted for bush respond for john c. ["dfrench" ] Re: Thanks :) ["Wallykai" ] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [Cathe] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [] RE: Kate's Joni Birthday gig! ["Kate Bennett" ] Detroit [Michaelpaz@aol.com] Re: New Jonifest dates ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: New Jonifest dates [Jerry Notaro ] TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [N] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [Cath] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [Cath] Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now [Lor] Joni mix on Blogcritics [patti haskins ] not my worm [FredNow@aol.com] Re: Hi ["Wallykai" ] Re: Hi ["FredNow" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:25:55 +0100 From: "Wallykai" Subject: Re: Hello :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.com] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:25:55 +0100 From: "FredNow" Subject: Re: :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.com] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:15:37 -1000 From: "dfrench" Subject: Re; ivoted for bush respond for john c. thanks john for alerting me to your post off list, im sorry as i said in my reply that i sometimes skim over looooooooooonnnng posts, not to infer that what you were saying wasnt important.... i am quite at a loss for words at he moment..............hang on .................ok i see that you write beautifully with a sincere passion for what you believe......although since you dont know me i would say that some of your presumptions are a bit presklumptuous and your assumptions are a bit asklumptimous as gw may say but i kind of understand your frustration .........im the sane way sometimes ...i get to a point that i need to just run away. i run up, the trail about 2 miles up the mountain behind my house thru forest and theres nothing but trees and nature and bushies(oops) and when i reach the top out of breath theres nothing else that matters but being there at that moment and everything else ,is so insignificant ,all the bullshit and crap that i./we have to deal with doesnt matter and when i come down i m kind of more REAL as to what matters inside and what for me its quite like when you re on the downside of an acid trip and everything is COOL and Easy i try not to dwell on negative things ..its difficult sometimes ...i try to control my dreams and when i get to somewhere i dont want to be i go back to my original thought and analyize the progression as to how and why and what made my mind go in that direction........... i have a trick that i play on myself when i have a train of thought thati want to stop and thats thaBOMB like one of those black bowling balls with a fuse and i throw it at the thought and BOOM it goes away and i can move on to ssomething else...all in a dream or trying to get there .how many bombs per night?..depends on the shit of the day (SOTD).i prefer to make the best of the shit i got going on as meager as it may seem to another but its MY shit and i keep it and treasure it and it dont matter what anyone else thinks of it cuz i dont care wat they think ...its mine ...i am ME .......i once got so flustered from expectations from family, friends job, taxes ,bills, flat tires that i swam out... yes just started swimming OUT im not sure how far i got im thinking less than a mile ...i was out there ........deep water ..........turned around and swam back.......swimming back has such a more beautiful view ,from out there you can see the panorama of the mountains and the sky without all the shit in the way....as opposed to swimming out theres nothing but horizon........being there was real...no bs ..you are who you are and nothing else matters ...not what others think of you ..not what you were supposed to do ....not anything but YOU and your ass in the deep water potential shark bait or other fish fodder........then realize how insignificant all the head trips were. i guess what im trying to say is that in the scope of life for me is not what other people ,government..,things ,politics ,or how the streets are paved its what makes you happy that you should go for and not get hung up frowning because ............that has nothing to do with the price of fish.(tic) aloha and lets enjoy life while we can , dfrench ....and btw i agree that the list will eventually turn to all things JONI...luv ya john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:40:40 +0100 From: "FredNow" Subject: Re: Hi :) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.cpl] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:40:39 +0100 From: "Wallykai" Subject: Re: Thanks :) :) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Joke.cpl] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 03:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now Thank you very much, Mark.:) Wow. Poor Joni. Recording an album with more than half of it's songs being love songs to Donald or Donald-related songs and even one song by Donald about their love, while they're still in love - at least up to 2000 - then him not only leaving her, but leaving her with an album that is a celebration of their love, now a souvenir, and in way, a mocking it's own creator souvenir...My oh my...I wonder if Joni is even able to listen to it...and in case she listens to it every now then, i wonder what she's going through...No wonder BSN was the result...And maybe, dare i say, maybe that's one of the reasons she quited writting lyrics...I mean, she "took a risk" of recording a sort of an "WTRF" album again (in the sense that most of the lyrics there are "I found my everlasting love at last" kind of lyrics), and giving love a second chance not only in real life terms but in recording an album such as TTT terms, letting the whole world know...I mean, if something like that happened to me, i'd be so scared of ever writting a love lyric again...And in the Fresh Air interview she says that she doesn't want to write about social issues again...Oh no, no, no...Maybe she's lost all faith in love...Maybe TTT that she believed would be her "Solid Love" is now her "Car On A Hill"...I for one, find it not only sad, and ironic, and bitter, but very very scary... Nuriel Mark or Travis wrote: Nuriel Tobias wrote: > And if don't mind - could you please help me learn another fact that > i know nothing about? Was TTT recorded (not written) while Joni and > Donald were together or after they broke up? It's been bothering me > for some time now, and i'm really interested in finding the answer. > I'll be waiting to hear from you. > > Thanks again, > > Nuri Checking the archives in the JMDL library I see that TTT was released in 1998. There are articles about Joni's exhibit at the Mendel Art Gallery in Saskatoon in 2000 that mention her boyfriend, Donald Freed. So I would say she and Donald were still an item whe TTT was recorded. Mark Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 06:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Thank you very much, Mark.:) > Wow. Poor Joni. Recording an album with more than > half of it's songs being love songs to Donald or > Donald-related songs and even one song by Donald > about their love, while they're still in love - at > least up to 2000 - then him not only leaving her, > but leaving her with an album that is a celebration > of their love, now a souvenir, and in way, a mocking > it's own creator souvenir...My oh my... How do you know he left her? She might have been the one to end it - or it could have been mutual. You never know. I wonder if > Joni is even able to listen to it...and in case she > listens to it every now then, i wonder what she's > going through... I'm sure I've read the Joni never listens to her own stuff once it's out there. Don't know if that's true, but listening to yourself is kind of strange anyway. I don't think I'd want to do it! No wonder BSN was the result...And > maybe, dare i say, maybe that's one of the reasons > she quited writting lyrics...I mean, she "took a > risk" of recording a sort of an "WTRF" album again > (in the sense that most of the lyrics there are "I > found my everlasting love at last" kind of lyrics), > and giving love a second chance not only in real > life terms but in recording an album such as TTT > terms, letting the whole world know...I mean, if > something like that happened t! > o me, i'd > be so scared of ever writting a love lyric > again...And in the Fresh Air interview she says that > she doesn't want to write about social issues > again...Oh no, no, no...Maybe she's lost all faith > in love...Maybe TTT that she believed would be her > "Solid Love" is now her "Car On A Hill"...I for one, > find it not only sad, and ironic, and bitter, but > very very scary... > She has said that she started writing when she lost her daughter and stopped when she found her again. The timelines are right. I think she's a lot braver in love than most of us are and that she wouldn't give up that easily. There may be another man in her life or there may not be. Sometimes being alone, even if it's only for a short while, can be the most liberating experience. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 08:37:34 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now Okay, this sounds so gossipy, but I recall Joni saying that they broke up on September 11, 2001, and that she broke it off after Donald accused her of repeating herself. At 06:54 AM 11/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: >How do you know he left her? She might have been the >one to end it - or it could have been mutual. You >never know. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 06:39:15 -0800 (PST) From: mags h Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now Donald Freed was in town this past summer performing with a group of local musicians in a neighbourhood venue. I met him and had a little chat about 'things'. Suffice to say, he wasnt willing to engage in any conversation of the Joni kind. Mags. Deb Messling wrote: Okay, this sounds so gossipy, but I recall Joni saying that they broke up on September 11, 2001, and that she broke it off after Donald accused her of repeating herself. At 06:54 AM 11/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: >How do you know he left her? She might have been the >one to end it - or it could have been mutual. You >never know. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? - ----- Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 07:53:36 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Kate's Joni Birthday gig! Hi Kate, Just wanted to say "break a leg" to you and all of your performers in tonight's Tribute show. I've put on the ruby slippers and said "There's no place like Santa Barbara" over & over, but to no avail - I remain stuck in redneckville. But I'll be there in spirit, and I look forward to your report! Bob Thanks Bob, We had our most successful turnout ever last night! I've included the set list below although most of the names won't be that familiar to anyone. Tom Rush was his amazing self. So talented & down to earth & funny. He told some stories about meeting Joni at the Chessmate when he was performing & she gave him that tape of her songs. He told another story about hearing her at the Bread & Roses event. He was warming up in the dressing room getting ready to follow some marching band & feeling quite depressed about it. Next door he heard BB King teaching Joni one of his songs- the Thrill is Gone. I can't do his story justice but he said where is a tape recorder when you need one. Anyway, we did a rousing alternative finale version of Woodstock that was lots of fun. That song just keeps evolving for me. We raised lots of money for Keep the Beat, the organization I do these tributes for that helps to keep music in our public elementary schools. Several of the very talented performers are also very talented teachers- a couple of them music teachers so it is a very poignant thing. We auctioned off a poster that Jeff created & Tom Rush signed. A great night & I'm hoping a nice introduction to Tom to our music community as he's a part time resident. Off to the day job now! Kate Album Song Performers Instruments 1) Song to a Seagull Dawn Treader Pat Milliken & Anita Bayley Guitar & Vox 2) Cactus Tree Pat Milliken Guitar 3) Clouds I Don't Know Where I Stand Vince Chafin & Zach Hood Guitar, Flute & Vox 4) I Think I Understand Joyce Hielig & Jack Lee Piano, Guitar & Vox 5) That Song About the Midway Kate Bennett & Cinder Jean 2 Guitars & 2 Vox 6) Chelsea Morning Julie Lewis, Pat Milliken, Debra Farris & Laura Sapia Guitar & 3 Vox 7) Ladies of the Canyon For Free Jennifer Terran Piano & Vox 8) Woodstock Brad Bayley Guitar & Vox 9) Circle Game Tom Rush Guitar & Vox 10) Urge for Going Tom Rush Guitar & Vox 11) The Priest Robert Brown, Lisa Starr & John Downs 2 Guitars & 3 Vox 12) Morning Morgantown Bruce Goldish Guitar & Vox 13) Blue River Kirstin Candy Piano & Vox 14) California Delilah Poupore Guitar & Vox 15) All I Want Marcella & George Quirin Guitar & Vox 16) A Case of You Donna O'Connor Guitar & Vox 17) Court & Spark Twisted Kasey Lloyd & Gordon Morrel 2 Vox 18) Help Me Cinder Jean, Vince Chafin, Karen Thurber & Kate Bennett Guitar, Bass & 3 Vox 19) Raised on Robbery Debra Farris, Laura Sapia, Julie Lewis, Michael Adcock & David Cowan 2 Guitars, Bass, & 3 Vox 20) Hejira Hejira Kate Price, Hans Betzholtz, Rick Sweeney & Vince Chafin Guitar, Bass, Percussion, & Vox 21) Mingus Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Karen Thurber Guitar & Vox 22) The Dry Cleaner from Des Moines Jill Keller, Vince Chafin, William Pasley, & Zack Hood Bass, Sax, Percussion & Vox 23) Wild Things Run Fast Be Cool Laura Hout & Chris Judge Guitar & Vox 24) Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm The Beat of Black Wings David Cowan & Andy Webb 2 Guitars & Vox 25) FINALE Woodstock- reprise Kate & All 26) Both Sides Now Debra & All 27) Big Yellow Taxi Debra & All ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:21:23 EST From: Michaelpaz@aol.com Subject: Detroit Hi Guys I am in Detroit land of my birth. How surreal is this? My brother is hanging in there but not good. I will be here as long as it takes. I had dinner with my sister and her husband and daugther and her husband last night and it was great to be with them. Hope all is well with everyone. I will try to check in as the week goes by. My aol address is the hot one for now but I can be contacted by cell if you have it. Love Paz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:17:48 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: New Jonifest dates Hi Laurent, 13th-15th is fine with me, thanks for doing this. db >>> Emiliano 11/5/2004 12:38:01 PM >>> Hi, Laurent! I guess there's no problem for me about the exact dates in August. I mean: I'm free from work for the entire month Anyway, I'd prefer avoiding to drive long distance in 15th (due to heavy traffic), but that's no serious problem for my part. Many thanks for caring about this!!! Have a Wonderful time! Yours: Emiliano - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Laurent Olszer" ... > Hi > > The middle of august seems more convenient for some people. > Since we haven't really set the dates officially yet, would you be OK for > august 13-15? > > Laurent This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 12:56:54 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: New Jonifest dates Laurent, Those days will work for me, also. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:21:51 -0800 (PST) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now Catherine said  "How do you know he left her? She might have been the one to end it - or it could have been mutual. You never know." Deb replied  "Okay, this sounds so gossipy, but I recall Joni saying that they broke up on September 11, 2001, and that she broke it off after Donald accused her of repeating herself." First of all  Deb, the Bible is gossip too, so please feel very unguilty:) My take? A man who accuses a woman of repeating herself is a coward who don't have the guts to break up and simply awaits the woman to do it for him, so this time, I'm happy to find out, Joni gave up the wrong infant for the very right reasons. Back then lots of Donald-related threads were going 'round here, and I got the impression that he's a charming Gentleman that teaches kids poetry. All I can say is  welcome to the "Lucky Girl" list, you idiot. He was loved by one of the most amazing women on earth, and this "repeating herself" thingWell, what can I say? Ok  no mercy here  I think this man was only basking in Joni's spotlight and when she, as we all know "gets that crazy feeling" forgot that it's "trouble again", and he managed to fool her. (and don't anyone even think of posting and telling me that no one can fool Joni, thank you very much). As I see it he spotted "the chance" at one of her weakest and lonesome periods. I recall a post regarding the Joni all star Tribute where the description of a "meaningless" event was that slides or clips of Joni were shown on the screen, and when the young Joni photos were screened he started sobbing and she hugged him to calm his "e(my ass)motiones". That "meaningless" scene alone was good enough for my red alert lights to go flashing. That man should've gotten the Oscar for his acting, and Myrtle, I'm afraid, knew exactly what she was talking about when she adviced her daughter to "snap out of it!". I now have no doubt as to what drove Joni to record BSN. As I see it now, it's Joni's score settling with LOVE, and maybe i'm beginning to loose my sight, but I don't see too many love songs on Travelogue either. I wrote  "I wonder if Joni is even able to listen to TTT...and in case she listens to it every now and then, i wonder what she's going through..." Catherine then answered - "I'm sure I've read the Joni never listens to her own stuff once it's out there. Don't know if that's true, but listening to yourself is kind of strange anyway. I don't think I'd want to do it!" Yes, I also read that, Catherine, though I know lots of other musicians that do listen to their own music on daily basis. Both ways seem strange to me, but let me rephrase my question  "I wonder if Joni hasn't burned TTT and all it's Donald songs and flashed the ashes down the toilet". One of her best albums, imho, I think that "Love puts on a new face" is Joni's best love song, imho again, words can't describe what I'm going through when I hear it, when it comes to the lyric "I miss your touch and your lips so much I long for our next embrace" I always faint for surely even a deaf man would notice the pure love nearly breaking Joni's voice into tears in that song  but if that's the case, hey, I'm moving back to "underneath the streetlight" for Larry Klein suddenly seems to me a knight in a shining armor! So yes, Catherine, maybe she doesn't listen to her own albums, but I do, and I dread the next time I'll play TTT and you bet I'll be "repeating" it over and over again, pretending that all the Donald songs were about her cat, but 'Lead Balloon'! Then Catherine wrote  "She has said that she started writing when she lost her daughter and stopped when she found her again". Before I met my man I used to constantly write love songs. The day I met him  I stopped. My advice? Don't let "if music be the food of love" turn into "if love be the food of music". There's a dark spell in it. Catherine wrote  "I think she's a lot braver in love than most of us are and that she wouldn't give up that easily. There may be another man in her life or there may not be. Sometimes being alone, even if it's only for a short while, can be the most liberating experience." Catherine, I've just called 911! Love, Nuriel Catherine McKay wrote:--- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > Thank you very much, Mark.:) > Wow. Poor Joni. Recording an album with more than > half of it's songs being love songs to Donald or > Donald-related songs and even one song by Donald > about their love, while they're still in love - at > least up to 2000 - then him not only leaving her, > but leaving her with an album that is a celebration > of their love, now a souvenir, and in way, a mocking > it's own creator souvenir...My oh my... How do you know he left her? She might have been the one to end it - or it could have been mutual. You never know. I wonder if > Joni is even able to listen to it...and in case she > listens to it every now then, i wonder what she's > going through... I'm sure I've read the Joni never listens to her own stuff once it's out there. Don't know if that's true, but listening to yourself is kind of strange anyway. I don't think I'd want to do it! No wonder BSN was the result...And > maybe, dare i say, maybe that's one of the reasons > she quited writting lyrics...I mean, she "took a > risk" of recording a sort of an "WTRF" album again > (in the sense that most of the lyrics there are "I > found my everlasting love at last" kind of lyrics), > and giving love a second chance not only in real > life terms but in recording an album such as TTT > terms, letting the whole world know...I mean, if > something like that happened t! > o me, i'd > be so scared of ever writting a love lyric > again...And in the Fresh Air interview she says that > she doesn't want to write about social issues > again...Oh no, no, no...Maybe she's lost all faith > in love...Maybe TTT that she believed would be her > "Solid Love" is now her "Car On A Hill"...I for one, > find it not only sad, and ironic, and bitter, but > very very scary... > She has said that she started writing when she lost her daughter and stopped when she found her again. The timelines are right. I think she's a lot braver in love than most of us are and that she wouldn't give up that easily. There may be another man in her life or there may not be. Sometimes being alone, even if it's only for a short while, can be the most liberating experience. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:48:07 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now --- Deb Messling wrote: > Okay, this sounds so gossipy, but I recall Joni > saying that they broke up > on September 11, 2001, and that she broke it off > after Donald accused her > of repeating herself. > > LOL - now that you mention it... What a silly reason to break things off but I guess if they had arrived at that point after -what?- a few years together (?), imagine them after twenty years. It was probably a good thing. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 20:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now --- mags h wrote: > Donald Freed was in town this past summer performing > with a group of local musicians in a neighbourhood > venue. I met him and had a little chat about > 'things'. Suffice to say, he wasnt willing to engage > in any conversation of the Joni kind. > That's good to hear. Joni does seem to find gentlemen, doesn't she, and not the kiss-and-tell kind. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:01:28 -0500 From: Lori Fye Subject: Re: "My Child's A Stranger" - now "TTT - Joni's risk in recording it then and having to deal with it now Nuriel wrote: > Wow. Poor Joni. Recording an album with more than half of it's songs being > love songs to Donald or Donald-related songs and even one song by Donald > about their love, while they're still in love - at least up to 2000 - then > him not only leaving her, but leaving her with an album that is a celebration > of their love, now a souvenir, and in way, a mocking it's own creator > souvenir...My oh my...I wonder if Joni is even able to listen to it...and in > case she listens to it every now then, i wonder what she's going through...No > wonder BSN was the result... That an interesting observation, about BSN. Could be. As far as an album of "lover-related" songs goes, though, how about WTRF? One could opine that album is almost entirely about Larry. Of course Joni and Larry have remained friends, but I'm sure they didn't smoothly segue from marriage to best friendship. I'm thinking that, after 10 years of marriage to Larry, Joni would have more reason to come out with BSN than she had after a few years with Donald. Or maybe "Last Chance Lost" said it all. Lori ~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 22:23:21 -0600 From: patti haskins Subject: Joni mix on Blogcritics Hi all, I saw this posted on http://blogcritics.org/archives/2004/11/07/225035.php I have no idea why this dude titles this Icky Girl Music, must be a guy joke. My husband laughed when he saw the title. Thought you might find his writing and mix cd choices interesting. Patti in Dallas (I'm working on a song called "Stuck in a Red State Blues" Posted by Al Barger on November 07, 2004 10:50 PM (See all posts by Al Barger ) Icky Girl Music: Joni Mitchell's Birthday Mastermix Joni Mitchell was born 61 years ago today, on November 7, 1943 in Alberta, Canada. Much as any decent person might normally hate Canadians, what with their beady little eyes and their heads so full of lies, you've got to stop and give respect to this classic artist. She's usually described primarily as a songwriter, and certainly not without reason. She's had a unique melodic style, and a lot of jazz gained skill in harmonics that has coalesced into a hella catalogue of songs. However, the known recordings of almost all her songs (save a Nazareth cover of "This Flight Tonight") are her own. She's quite a unique vocal performer with a really good instrument. On top of which, whoever she's got producing from record to record, she's gotten a lot of really interesting arrangements that add a lot to the already excellent basic songs. Indeed, Led Zeppelin and Prince and Elvis Costello have all cited her as a model, particularly for creating orhcestral colors. Dig particularly, for examples, on "The Jungle Line" or "Carey." She's got a very painterly consciousness of her tone palette. Here's a little late arriving email quote from Sananda Matreiya aka Terence Trent D'Arby : Were Joni Mitchell born instead John Mitchell, shed easily and without typical chauvinist reluctance be ranked as one of the greatest artist of the second half of the century. Her genius is not only a novelists eye for vignettes and imagery but also in the complexity of her harmonic ear and brilliant melodies. More men owe a debt to her in my profession than have yet had the balls to own up to. For me she easily ranks with the big boys of my Valhalla, Wilson, Wonder, Dylan, Bacharach etc. If you haven't got any Joni Mitchell, then your priorities in life are just messed up. The Blue album comes top recommended, along with Court and Spark . I've never seen a Joni Mitchell compilation I was real satisified with, though. So, of course, I've made my own mix CD. It would be worth your time to hunt down mp3s P2P and whip up your own copy of: ICKY GIRL MUSIC - THE JONI MITCHELL MASTERMIX The Jungle Line Help Me Carey Big Yellow Taxi God Must Be a Boogie Man This Flight Tonight You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio Raised on Robbery Court and Spark Free Man in Paris In France They Kiss on Main Street My Old Man The Last Time I Saw Richard All I Want California River A Case of You People's Parties Blue Song to Aging Children Come Twisted Little Green Both Sides Now Posted by Al Barger on November 07, 2004 10:50 PM (See all posts by Al Barger ) Filed under: Music , Music: Adult Alternative , Music: Folk , Music: Jazz , Music: Pop , Music: Popular and Standards ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:42:34 -0500 From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: not my worm I'm dismayed to see all these emails sent by a worm seemingly on my behalf, but just to let everyone know that to the best of my knowledge, it's not my worm. First of all, I'm on a Mac, which is generally immune from these email worms. Also, I only use this email account in web mail form, not POP client, so none of my AOL resides on my hard drive. Perhaps the worm is coming from AOL (although I'd like to think they have some serious virus protection on their servers), or has attached to the server of this list (again, I would hope this list's server has protection). But most likely it's a worm residing on the hard drive of someone on this list, and it's harvested email addresses (mine, Wally's, etc.) from incoming email. - -Fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:10:16 +0100 From: "Wallykai" Subject: Re: Hi :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Joke.cpl] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 08:10:20 +0100 From: "FredNow" Subject: Re: Hi :)) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Price.cpl] ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #320 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)