From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #309 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 30 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 309 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: [NortheastJonifest] Dr Joni in La Presse de Montreal [ReckersL@ebrd.c] Re: "Best Of" Joni covers compilation. [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: Jonifest in France ["Martin Giles" ] Re: Jonifest in France [Jamie Zubairi ] Re: Joni photos [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni photos [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Joni Covers ["Laurent Olszer" ] Very happy for Joni ["Sherelle Smith" ] Joni Symposium Special on CBC Radio 2 [Doug ] a joni encounter from Tenda at the UTNE CAFE LAURA NYRO SITE [JSerkes@aol] Re: a Joni encounter from Tenda at the UTNE CAFE LAURA NYRO SITE [Jerry N] Joni Symposium Special on CBC Radio 2 Update [Doug ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:04:45 +0100 From: ReckersL@ebrd.com Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Dr Joni in La Presse de Montreal Thanks very much for these translations, Catherine. I think that last sentence simply means: they are just "as little relevant as" those others that demonise Yoko - in other words: they are just as irrelevant! Lieve. - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: 28 October 2004 23:03 To: JonifestList; Jonilist Subject: [NortheastJonifest] Dr Joni in La Presse de Montreal Here are tow articles from La Presse de Montreal today. Right below this para is a link to their website (there are pics which I've saved but can't attach to smoe e-mails). Following this is my translation of the articles, and then text in French of the articles. I really didn't understand how to translate the last sentence in the 2nd article. It didn't make a great deal of sense to me in French, much less in English. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/arts/article/1,144,163,102004,827031.shtml - ----------------------------------------------------- Honorary doctorate, living body! by Alain Brunet La Presse We knew she was on her way to Montreal, and that McGill University's Faculty of Music was going to grant her an honorary doctorate last night. But the physical presence of Joni Mitchell at the colloquium dedicated to her all day (Exploring the art and music of Joni Mitchell, to use the event's official title) was never a sure thing. To the great pleasure of her fans and analysts, the great lady made an appearance around 4:00 p.m., climbing the stairs of the Redpath Room as cameras and microphones swarmed around her. There was a scrum as might be expected. This practice of political reporters seemed to amuse the 60ish Mitchell, who hadn't made a public appearance in Montreal in 30 years. She took the time to greet friends who had come to meet her, took off her trench cooat to reveal an outfit in shades of red with equally bright shoes. There might have been a halo around the genial songwriter and visual artist. Less preoccupied with the artistic reasons for her Montreal stopover, media generalists soon started questioning Joni Mitchell about American politics, since she has lived mainly in the US since the 60s. Generous and smiling, the Canadian-born, California-dwelling Mitchell could not be prevailed upon to sum up her position on the situation in the land of Uncle George W. - -------------------------------------------- A day to study Joni Mitchell by Alain Brunet La Presse All the greats praise her, from Prince to PJ Harvey, and on to Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Joan Armatrading and Me'Shell Ndegecello. So many music lovers consider her to be a super talent, if not the most influential of female songwriters. There are so many reasons that lead the Faculty of Music of McGill University to dedicate an entire day to her, at the end of which they granted her an honorary doctorate. Don McLean, Faculty Dean, talked about the process. "We took these steps because popular music is now a great part of our field of studies. Through some privileged contacts, I was finally able to meet Joni Mitchell in Los Angeles. When I submitted our project to her, she was delighted, but also curious about the fact that we were interested in the relationship between her writing, her music and her painting. She didn't accept the invitation right away though. After a lot of hesitation and many phone conversations, she finally accepted." And so it was that yesterday a learned group reflected on the work of this artist who hails originally from the Prairies. For Jennifer Rycenga, from the State University of San Jose, the artist is an unstoppable force in the advancement of the female condition. Even though Mitchell has always rejected the label "feminist" and doesn't associate herself with its movements, her writings are nonetheless progressive. "Those that say she was one of the pioneers of the engaged song are no less important than those that demonized Yoko Ono." ( or maybe it's "Those who claim she buried the committed song are as relevant as those who demonized Yoko Ono.") JONI MITCHELL Docteur honorifique, corpus vivant! Alain Brunet La Presse On savait qu'elle itait de passage ` Montrial, que la faculti de musique de l'Universiti McGill allait lui dicerner hier soir un doctorat honoris causa. Mais la prisence physique de Joni Mitchell au colloque lui itant consacri la journie durant (Explorer l'art et la musique de Joni Mitchell, pour reprendre le titre officiel de l'ivinement) n'avait rien de certain. Au grand plaisir de ses fans et analystes, la grande dame a fait son apparition aux alentours de 16 h, gravit les escaliers de la salle Redpath pendant que les camiras et les micros se ruaient sur leur sujet. Scrum en bonne et due forme! Cette pratique de reporters politiques, peu courante dans la pop culture, a sembli amuser la sexaginaire, qui n'avait pas fait d'apparition publique ` Montrial depuis trois dicennies. Elle a pris le temps de faire l'accolade ` des amis venus ` sa rencontre, a retiri son trench et divoili des vjtements rouges assortis ` des souliers aussi voyants. On ne parle pas du halo enveloppant la giniale songwriter et artiste visuelle. Moins prioccupis pas la dimension artistique de son escale montrialaise, les midias giniralistes auront ttt fait de questionner Joni Mitchell sur la politique amiricaine, puisqu'elle riside (principalement) aux Itats-Unis depuis les annies 60. Ginireuse et souriante, la Canadienne itablie en Californie ne se fera pas prier pour risumer sa position sur la conjoncture au pays de l'oncle George W. - ------------------------------------------------------- Une journie ` scruter Joni Mitchell Alain Brunet La Presse Tant de grands s'en riclament, de Prince ` PJ Harvey en passant par Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Joan Armartrading ou Me'Shell Ndegecello. Tant de milomanes la considhrent surdouie, voire la plus diterminante des songwriters au fiminin. Voil` autant de raisons ayant conduit la faculti de musique de l'Universiti McGill ` lui consacrer hier une journie entihre, au terme de laquelle on lui a remis un doctorat honorifique. Don McLean, doyen de la faculti, raconte le processus. +Nous avons entrepris les dimarches parce que la musique populaire fait disormais partie de notre champ d'itudes. Par l'intermidiaire de contacts priviligiis, j'ai finalement pu rencontrer Joni Mitchell ` Los Angeles. Lorsque je lui ai soumis notre projet, elle s'est montrie ravie, igalement curieuse du fait que nous nous intiressions ` la relation entre son icriture, sa musique et sa peinture. Elle n'a toutefois pas accepti l'invitation d'emblie. Au bout de nombreuses hisitations ponctuies par de nombreuses conversations tiliphoniques, elle a finalement accepti.; Ainsi donc, un ariopage d'universitaires riflichissait hier sur l'oeuvre de l'artiste originaire des Prairies. Pour Jennifer Rycenga, de l'Universiti d'Itat de San Jose, l'artiste est un moteur incontournable de l'avancement de la condition des femmes. Mjme si Mitchell a toujours refusi de s'itiqueter fiministe ou de s'associer aux mouvements progressistes ayant imailli son existence, l'engagement de ses textes n'en demeure pas moins progressiste. +Ceux qui affirment qu'elle fut parmi les fossoyeurs de la chanson engagie sont aussi peu pertinents que ceux qui ont diabolisi Yoko Ono.; - ------------------------------------------------------- ===== Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. 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The contents of this e-mail do not necessarily represent the views of the EBRD. ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:18:44 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: "Best Of" Joni covers compilation. **Is there a "Best of" covers compilation made out of all the compilations so far, Bob? Nuriel, you're nappin' on the job. I've done not one, not two, but three volumes of "Best Of" Joni covers and they've been discussed at length in this very forum (at least as far as covers discussions go). Let me know your address and I'll send you V3 so that you no longer have to live another day in a life of deprivation and quagmired disappointment. Tracks: 1. Diana Krall b Black Crow 2. Karrin Allyson b Help Me 3. Jibe Project b Chelsea Morning 4. Holly Near/Cris Williamson b Tea Leaf Prophecy 5. Don Conoscenti b River 6. Azure McCall b Shades of Scarlett Conquering 7. Jacqui Dankworth b Man From Mars 8. Catherine Moon b The Beat of Black Wings 9. Max Leake b Both Sides Now 10. The Uptown Trio b Song For Sharon 11. Bill Lancton b Woodstock 12. Danilo Perez b The Fiddle And The Drum 13. Terri Lyne Carrington b Ethiopia 14. The Fourth Stream b In France They Kiss On Main Street 15. Fabio Ranza & Elisabetta Zamberlan b Moon At The Window 16. K.D. Lang - Jericho Bob NP: Green Day, "Wake Me Up When September Ends" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:11:05 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: Jonifest in France I'm flexible too Laurant - no plans that far ahead in my diary! Martin Giles. - ------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:02:30 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Jonifest in France >>> I'd like to get some feeback from the participants about choosing a convenient date in August. Laurent, now travel agent. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:49:13 +0100 (BST) From: Jamie Zubairi Subject: Re: Jonifest in France Well, as August is also my birthday month, I guess the earlier part of the month would be better as the 19th is my birthday and I've been asked to keep it clear this year as there are about 4 of us who share the same birthday week... Much Joni Jamie Zoob "Gerald A. Notaro" wrote: The first part of the month is easier for me than later. Jerry Donna Binkley said: > . > I'd like to get some feeback from the participants about choosing a > convenient date in August. > > Laurent, now travel agent. > > > Laurent, my birthday is August 8, I'd love to celebrate my 44th in > France! But any date in August will work, put me under the flexible > column. db > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:52:56 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni photos > Joni photos > Here are some pics of Joni from the National Post, La Presse de Montreal and > the Montreal Gazette, today > http://ca.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/anima_rising/album?.dir=/8775&.src=ph&.tok=ph > bOC.BBIxXZQEBF > Thanks, Catherine. Wonderful photos! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:36:56 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni photos **Thanks, Catherine. Wonderful photos! I agree, and thanks for sharing them Catherine - but when is Joni going to let her hair choose it's own color? I guess she still thinks of herself as the Blonde in The Bleachers in a way. Bob NP: Kim Prevost & Bill Solley, "Woodstock" Mmmm Mmmmm Good! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:33:22 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni Covers Chalom Nuriel I've got a dozen or so Cover CDs from the tree that I can send you. Sorry I didn't make those re-available earlier. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:17:38 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Very happy for Joni Thanks so much to whoever posted the pictures! I had to take a moment and reflect on this new event in Joni's life and I am very happy for her. It feels right. Once Joni started performing again in the late nineties (remember when we used to pine for that?) I felt she made a lot of people very happy. I never got a chance to see her live, but my life has been so saturated with her music (especially Shadows and Light) that I have never felt the need to. There are very few artists who can capture that essence in a recording and Joni is one of those people. When I think of all the pearls of wisdom she has imparted through her songs ("We're stardust...we're a billion year old carbon...) an honorary doctorate is just a natural progression. Somehow, she understands the mysteries of life and the universe, but moreover, she has always been brave enough to explore her own shortcomings and emotions in a public forum. That is what I love most about her. She has taught me that it is okay not to be perfect. She has taught me so much more than beautiful chords and haunting words. She has taught me how to be a better human being by being an imperfect one. I'm fighting back the tears on this one because I have never known anyone who has had the kind of courage to show herself in such a brutally honest manner. It's not that one puts her on a pedestal as that would negate the whole concept of what I am trying to say; but one cannot help but be awed and inspired by who she is and what she has done in her lifetime. For those of you who have had an opportunity to speak to her or reach her directly or indirectly, you are very fortunate indeed. You should savor and cherish that moment. This is a great lady because she made a choice a long time ago to dare to be different. By doing so, she has impacted so many other lives. She has dared to be fallible in a world where perfection is the only standard. She has allowed herself to feel joy and pain and she shared it with us. Anyone who listens to her music is privileged to get a glimpse into her real world. That's why people love her so. It's just plain admiration from one human being to another. So now? Now I would love Joni to enjoy the fruits of her labors. At this time of her life, if she feels like singing, I would like her to sing. If she feels like stepping back, then I want her to step back. I want her to do whatever makes her happy in her life right now. I want her to enjoy her grandchildren and enter into that "rest" I feel she deserves. I am so saturated and content with her life and her music. It's a good feeling..... Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar  get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 10:27:28 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Joni Symposium Special on CBC Radio 2 I believe this is a two hour show. I will record it. Doug - ------------ 12:00 p.m. Studio Sparks 29/10/04 - A tribute to Joni Mitchell today on Studio Sparks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:22:27 EDT From: JSerkes@aol.com Subject: a joni encounter from Tenda at the UTNE CAFE LAURA NYRO SITE This is just so cool. Our friend Susan who is a regular on the UTNE CAFE site, had a joni encounter that I would like to post below. It is so magical, as she had JUST put her cat to sleep the day before. What a gift from her car!! here is her post: and her references to Laura Nyro just amazing! I got to Redpath Hall five minutes before the end of the afternoon panel at 3:30 - I'd have to wait until 4pm before the last part the Roundtable...everyone got up to go out side for a break...and in comes Joni Mitchell from a side door followed by a stream of cameras and reporters and journalists...boom mikes. She looked stunning - red blouse and sleevless top red and grays and blacks...a very fashion statement skirt and red shoes ...kinda like Dorothy from the Wizard... She was immediately surrounded by the media ..at this point people came back into the room hearing that she had showed up ... I think due to my grief...I wasn't quite in a normal state of mind... I walked slowly over toward herandgot myself positioned right behind her and a little to the left...she couldn't see me...I was the only non-media person in the group...every one had a mike or a camera and asked her questions...the usual stuff...finally the dean who was with her said , "Okay that's the last question, we need to start the round table now"...and at that moment I stepped forward and touched her arm (her blouse was like a very soft red crinkly crape paper that you would find at a kids party table) in fact I didn't just touch her arm I kinda gently rubbed it with my index finger...and at the same time I said her name..."Joni" and she turned around and looked right at me with a very open and receptive look.... So here's what I said, "Joni...did you ever get to spend any time with Laura Nyro" and Joni said looking into my eyes..."Yes I did - I spent some times (and she specified it as plural) with Laura and she smiled. Then I asked her, "Did you like her?" And Joni replied, " Yes I liked Laura...and we had times together...but the way Laura was you know...and I nodded ...she was a strange girl...it wasn't easy to get to know her...she didn't let you in too easily...and the time I spent with her ...it was strange...but certainly NOT alienating...and she smiled and really looked into me...you know...and I nodded yes ...I knew...then I sort of went brain blank and was just smiling at Joni...and then they took her away... but it was a beautiful moment...truely... I canceled my last class tonight ...so I could go to the convacation...how lovely it was ...Joni giggled alot ...she had to sit beside the chancellor...and she kept bursting into little teenage giggles...from time to time...I don't blame her -you should have seen the hat she had to wear...those graduation clothes are a hoot....but her little red shoes were ever so cute...she was called down to the platform in a procession with all the other graduates ...led by a scottish bagpipe in full regalia- Mr McGill being a Scott- anyway when Joni had to get up and say something after receiving an honorarydoctrate...she looked stunned that she had to speak...she walked over to the mike and said - you know its very rare that I feel speechless...then she paused ...and said, Well I guess from now on they'll have to say... "Uh What's Up Doc" (in her finest imitaion of bugs bunny)... so that's the news tribe... theres more but I'm tired need to get some zzzzzzz's Jody L. Serkes jserkes@aol.com 314.378.6052 Fax) 859.268.7729 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:40:23 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: a Joni encounter from Tenda at the UTNE CAFE LAURA NYRO SITE What a wonderful, magical post Jody. Thanks for sharing it. It sounds so much like our Joni. She is just unbelievable to meet, so natural, and graceful to all. Jerry > This is just so cool. Our friend Susan who is a regular on the UTNE CAFE > site, had a joni encounter that I would like to post below. It is so magical, ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:49:18 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Joni Symposium Special on CBC Radio 2 Update The Joni segment starts at 2:05PM EST Doug - ------------ 12:00 p.m. Studio Sparks 29/10/04 - A tribute to Joni Mitchell today on Studio Sparks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:25:19 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Joni Symposium Special on CBC Radio 2 It turned out to be a review of the symposium with a few clips of Joni answering questions and two songs: Silky Veils and BSN2000. 23 minutes total. Doug ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #309 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)