From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #285 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 6 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 285 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Court & Spark [Deb Messling ] Re: Court & Spark [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests [Em ] Re: Our Kids & Joni ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: For the Roses is better than Blue [Scott Price ] Re: For the Roses is better than Blue ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] Re: For the Roses is better than Blue [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: Future Jonifests [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Future Jonifests [mags h ] Re: Future Jonifests ["Kakki" ] Re: Future Jonifests [AsharaProducLLC@aol.com] Covers # 57 - a quick giveaway [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: For the Roses is better than Blue [Nuriel Tobias ] Today's Library Links: October 6 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 06:26:46 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: Court & Spark I ran across a pop group called Court & Spark when I was aimlessly trolling Amazon.com. Has anyone heard of them? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- messling@enter.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:39:29 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Court & Spark **I ran across a pop group called Court & Spark when I was aimlessly trolling Amazon.com. Has anyone heard of them? Yeah, they're a west coast indie rock band - NJC. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 04:41:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests If it were, for some reason, held in Tucson, AZ, I would bust butt to go, for the additional reason that I have some close friends there that I would love to see. Em ps: even Phoenix, but Tucson would ROCK. I know, lets take over the Hotel Congress...very cool place right in the old downtown http://www.hotcong.com/ - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > My 2 cents though I am not able to help be in charge due to my > dual(dueling?) careers these days. however I know it would be much > more > feasible for us & perhaps others in the west if the fest moved > towards this > direction. the ideas of new mexico, arizona & colorado all sound good > to me. > ===== - ---------- "But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues You can tell by the way she smiles" Bob D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 15:17:25 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Re: Our Kids & Joni Too funneee! Thanks, Brian. Say hello to your Joni woman for me....Joni women rule! You are lucky to have one, and you know it! Laughing it all away, Patti > >--- Patti Parlette wrote: > > > > P.S. Gotcha, Chris! I TOLD you I was going to report you to the Joni > > Police! Now Paz will never get you Jack Nielson's autograph. And Brian replies: >You see Chris, better to NOT get on the bad side of any of these Joni >women. >They kick ass and take no prisoners! (Take it from one who knows, >first-hand) > >Brian in NJ > >===== >Don't it always seem to go >That you don't know what you've got till it's gone > > --Roberta Joan Anderson, who never lies _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 11:56:06 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: For the Roses is better than Blue At 12:05 AM 10/4/2004 EDT, KindTaper@aol.com wrote: >"Blue" is overrated by some as her best work. "Blue" equals "confessional." It opened the door for a whole new genre and is perhaps the most significant album in Joni's catalog. >"For The Roses" was a foreshadow of what was ahead. And oh my, what indeed followed! I couldn't begin to rate Joni's individual albums or songs as "best" to worst. I can rate my own favorites, as you have done. I rather look back at her career output as an artist and remain simply amazed. IMO her best vocal performance was done for "Mingus." Her best lyrics were from "Hejira." Her best production was "Court and Spark." Her "best work" was done over a period of many years. But if one wishes to point to a single album that set a new standard for generations of singer-songwriters, then "Blue" it is. Scott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: For the Roses is better than Blue Scott Price said: But if one wishes to point to a single album that > set > a new standard for generations of singer-songwriters, then "Blue" it is. And then surpassed immediately by For the Roses. Jerry :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:33:02 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Future Jonifests Re: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests I REALLY REALLY think we should, at least once or twice, manage to have the fest in Europe. Yes, Laurent, do tell us more (again, for those who forgot!) about that place near Carcassonne. It all depends whether enough people are close enough to do some of the practical arranging. Lieve. Hi Guys Sure Holland sounds cool and very central, as Uncle John wrote. I'd go for that. The place I was thinking of is a wild area, middle mountains, sort of Topanga Canyon like. It's filled with medieval castles, 11th century abbeys, rivers. Very unpopulated area (twice more than Patagonia) and the least populated county in Europe. Population is a mix of locals and also a Haight-Ashbury refugee national park. This friend of mine has a place which is truly magical. He has bungalows + a renovated mill for housing, a view on the whole valley, private waterfalls, fruit trees, pond, prehistoric bat cave, etc. It's hard to describe but rest assured that everybody (including some U.S. friends of mine) who goes there feels the magic. Local housing is also available in nearby villages. Why go to a Vegas lookalike when you can get the real thing? Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:54:41 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: For the Roses is better than Blue Scott writes: << I couldn't begin to rate Joni's individual albums or songs as "best" to worst. I can rate my own favorites, as you have done. I rather look back at her career output as an artist and remain simply amazed. IMO her best vocal performance was done for "Mingus." Her best lyrics were from "Hejira." Her best production was "Court and Spark." Her "best work" was done over a period of many years. But if one wishes to point to a single album that set a new standard for generations of singer-songwriters, then "Blue" it is. >> Thanks, Scott. I think this is very much like the thought I have been trying to form for years now. Joni maintained such a high level for so long -- before she retired -- I really can't say any one song is the best. And I like the way you didn't say that Blue was Joni's best. - --Smurf "Helloooooo. I'm Randy." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 19:09:46 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Future Jonifests excuse me for replying a little late on this, but it still hurts to type after the hand surgery. like others have written, i would defintelty like to move on from the full moon. although it was a nice place to have such large number of people to accomodate, i would like to see some other parts of the US or the world for that matter. for the money that we spent flying up to Albany, the rental car, the accomodations, the questionable quality of the food, we could have gone to europe. the most important factor for me is to see my fellow jmdlers, but i also like to see other parts of the country or world, and make it a vacation/jonifest. i've attended 7 jonifests/minifest so far, and my favorites have been Pazfest in new olreans, the 2 in Boston at Ashara's, the mini LA fest, and the Joni hommage in Toronto. we got to be with some great friends, but also got to see some of the city too. I spent just as much money at the Full Moon, so I don't really care to go there again. although i enjoyed listening to my friends perform, 4 nights of planned music was a little too much for me. the impromptu jams are better IMO i would love to go back to new orleans (or honduras as Paz suggested). i'd love to do out west......colorado or california. the suggestion of canada would be great..........and anywhere in europe would be WONDERFUL!!! i know it takes a lot of work to throw a large jonifest together, so even having minifests are great. i'm hoping to go to cindy's in birmingham next year........and alison's wedding in utah. how bout a mini jonifest cruise ? :~) jimmy great talking with Mags over the weekend, and Queen Lulu today! "Who is Bob Murphy, and why haven't I done him yet?" - --Gov. Jim McGreevey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: mags h Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Future Jonifests chiming in on this one a little late too, mostly because I just cannot decide where to vote for....and I would never in a million years be able to manage all that goes into the Fest on a grand scale because it's just too complicated.... ;-) I'd seriously love to see the Fest happen in Europe or in the mid west America and very serious about here in western Canada....(prairies) there are many beautiful places out here...close to Joni country. There's so much going on in the Peg in the summer...but then it's so far for the Europeans. I give up, I will go wherever it is.... and help in whatever way I can. I loved hearing your voice too Jimmy ;-) and Queen Lulu on my answering machine today !!!! love, Mags let us just be side by side, helping, respecting and understanding each other, in common effort to serve humankind. ~Dalai Lama~ vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:09:12 -0700 From: "Kakki" Subject: Re: Future Jonifests Jimmy wrote: > the most important factor for me is to see my fellow jmdlers, but i also like > to see other parts of the country or world, and make it a vacation/jonifest. These are important factors to me, too. I'm lucky if I can even squeeze out the time to have ANY kind of vacation each year so when I do travel afar and save up my clams to do so, I want to enjoy something extra in addition to the fest and make the most of it. I think a lot of people have limitations with money and time so there is an added incentive if the fest moves around and can become a combined fest weekend/vacation/sightseeing/places we've always wanted to visit kind of thing. Plus, other people who are not usually able to come to one place may be able at attend in a different venue. The years I traveled to the fest in Boston, I always planned extra days to drive around and experience places I'd never been before. I'm real, real partial to any fest location in a tropical or semi-tropical environment like the suggested Honduras, Florida or New Orleans because it is relaxing to me (and I (and probably a lot of us) certainly am in extreme need of relaxing from my day to day world). I also would love something in Europe - having never been there it would be an opportunity to combine the wonderful festivities with touring. Laurent's place sounds wonderful as does John's Holland (but fuggedabout the cycling! ;-). Kakki - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:42:16 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Re: Future Jonifests Looks like the overwhelming majority wants to see Jonifest somewhere besides Full Moon, so I am officially signing off of all Jonifest duties and hope that someone will pick up the ball in Europe, Canada, midwest, west coast, or wherever. Hope to see you all "somewhere!" Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 23:14:40 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Covers # 57 - a quick giveaway OK, I've got an extra copy of Joni Covers Volume 57 to fling, so I've got an EASY trivia question...but first, this covers update: Hopefully you'll recall a couple weeks ago I posted about a newly-released CD from Roxana Amed with a Spanish-language version of Amelia. I received the CD today (and heard the track several days ago thanks to my JMDL-pal Eduardo) and lo and behold, there's a bonus track that is also Amelia but is sung in English. Both are beautiful, of course, but I like the Spanish-language one better. Anyway, now this brings me to my easy trivia question - first to answer it gets a freebie frisbee #57: This is not the first Joni cover to be a hidden/bonus track - there have actually been a few. Name another Joni cover that was a hidden track (song and artist). Bob NP: Steve Earle & The Dukes, "F the CC" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:19:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: For the Roses is better than Blue Scott writes: "I couldn't begin to rate Joni's individual albums or songs as "best" to worst." My man, who's not a jmdl member, but has my permission to sometimes read a message or 2, asked me to tell you all the he, unlike Scott, has no problem in rating Joni's best song. It's called Jericho. Nuri p.s. Smurf, what is this? Every time i read those Gov. remarks i laugh so hard i can hardly smoke.:) "Helloooooo. I'm Randy." - --Gov. Jim McGreevey vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 02:11:21 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 6 On October 6 the following article was published: 1998: "Joni Mitchell captures perfection with latest" - Hamilton Spectator (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=128 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #285 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)