From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #284 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, October 5 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 284 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- DJRD ["Michael" ] Re: DJRD [Catherine McKay ] Re: DJRD [Nuriel Tobias ] Re: STOP THE BLEEDING .. VOTE FOR KERRY ["Steven Polifka" ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests [Michaelpaz@aol.com] Our Kids & Joni ["Patti Parlette" ] vote for Kerry ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: DJRD [Catherine McKay ] Future Jonifests ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: Future Jonifests [colin ] Re: Our Kids & Joni ["janine sherman" ] RE: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests ["Kate Bennett" Subject: DJRD Hey Jim I hadn't really noticed that dialouge, but I am hearing it as I read your post and can see where you are coming from. Might have to have another Joni night, not that that will be difficult Cheers Michael Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:49:52 -0400 From: Subject: DJRD, 100% JC You probably already noticed that Joni slaps too. Joni does it alone on Overture. It becomes a real dialog on many other songs, especially the ones on MINGUS. If you play just "Overture", then immediately play the intro to "God Must Be A Boogie Man", you'll hear the dialog. Joni & Jaco "bark" at each other, like dogs, with slapping. I think it's very special. I love the collaborations on THOSL, DJRD, HEJIRA, and MINGUS most of all. (I love the ones on BLUE too but the jazz influenced era is in another league to my ears.) To me, this whole era is special although many on the list think HEJIRA stands above the others. All the best, Jim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 07:13:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: DJRD I think the guitar, and in particular the bass guitar, is a percussion instrument just as much as a plucked/stringed/melodic one. The bass guitar drives the beat and the rhythm. IMO the other instruments should follow the bass and not the other way around, the same way you would let a drummer set the beat. It helps if the bass player and the drummer have a good sense of rhythm. ;-) Michael, if you haven't seen the video version of the Shadows and Light tour, you really must. It's just fascinating watching Jaco perform - the man is all over the place. You'd almost think he was making this sh*t up as he goes along - I don't think he is, because I've heard audience recordings of the S&L tour and it's pretty much the same each night. There may be a small amount of improvisation on each performance, as the spirit moves him to carry it on a bit longer sometimes, but, if so, he's a master improviser. I've never played bass but, after watching Jaco go nuts with it, it looks like a lot of fun. --- Michael wrote: > Hey Jim > > I hadn't really noticed that dialouge, but I am > hearing it as I read your > post and can see where you are coming from. > > Might have to have another Joni night, not that that > will be difficult > > Cheers > Michael > > > Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:49:52 -0400 > From: > Subject: DJRD, 100% JC > > You probably already noticed that Joni slaps too. > > Joni does it alone on Overture. It becomes a real > dialog on many other > songs, especially the ones on MINGUS. If you play > just "Overture", then > immediately play the intro to "God Must Be A Boogie > Man", you'll hear the > dialog. Joni & Jaco "bark" at each other, like > dogs, with slapping. I > think it's very special. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 05:10:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Nuriel Tobias Subject: Re: DJRD ...And don't forget that lovely moment on "Talk To Me" where Joni goes chicken and Jaco echoes her... Nuri Catherine McKay wrote: I think the guitar, and in particular the bass guitar, is a percussion instrument just as much as a plucked/stringed/melodic one. The bass guitar drives the beat and the rhythm. IMO the other instruments should follow the bass and not the other way around, the same way you would let a drummer set the beat. It helps if the bass player and the drummer have a good sense of rhythm. ;-) Michael, if you haven't seen the video version of the Shadows and Light tour, you really must. It's just fascinating watching Jaco perform - the man is all over the place. You'd almost think he was making this sh*t up as he goes along - I don't think he is, because I've heard audience recordings of the S&L tour and it's pretty much the same each night. There may be a small amount of improvisation on each performance, as the spirit moves him to carry it on a bit longer sometimes, but, if so, he's a master improviser. I've never played bass but, after watching Jaco go nuts with it, it looks like a lot of fun. - --- Michael wrote: > Hey Jim > > I hadn't really noticed that dialouge, but I am > hearing it as I read your > post and can see where you are coming from. > > Might have to have another Joni night, not that that > will be difficult > > Cheers > Michael > > > Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:49:52 -0400 > From: > Subject: DJRD, 100% JC > > You probably already noticed that Joni slaps too. > > Joni does it alone on Overture. It becomes a real > dialog on many other > songs, especially the ones on MINGUS. If you play > just "Overture", then > immediately play the intro to "God Must Be A Boogie > Man", you'll hear the > dialog. Joni & Jaco "bark" at each other, like > dogs, with slapping. I > think it's very special. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 08:48:12 -0500 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: STOP THE BLEEDING .. VOTE FOR KERRY I saw some great graffitti in the mens room at work last week. It read: Vote for Ecology- Plant a Bush back in Texas! (I think they were a Nader fan, but still fun nonetheless..) Steve >>> 10/02/04 02:50PM >>> I've been thinking about how best to help Kerry win, and this is what I've come up with. I know more than a few people who are registered to vote but are still on the fence for various reasons ... they don't necessarily want to vote for Bush but they're not crazy about Kerry, either (well, neither am I). They're clinging to the noble idea of voting "for" someone, a dangerous notion to hold when the wolf has already crashed through the door while you wait for a knight in shining armor. If every person who has already decided to vote for Kerry "adopts" just one person who is on the fence and helps to convince them to vote for Kerry, he'll win, we all win. If you can help sway two, or five people, all the better. Give them information, point them to web sites and articles, tell them to rent or buy Fahrenheit 9/11 next week, or even treat them to a rental. The analogy I've come up with for myself in answer to the undecided's reluctance to vote "against" Bush instead of "for" Kerry is that when there is profuse bleeding from a wound, the first thing to do is to apply a tourniquet ... before any healing can begin, we must stop the bleeding. In fact, that's my new slogan: STOP THE BLEEDING .. VOTE FOR KERRY Peace, Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:53:58 -0400 From: briangross@rocketmail.com Subject: canada.com Story Dear joni@smoe.org, briangross@rocketmail.com, Your friend briangross@rocketmail.com thought you might be interested in this canada.com story: "Mendel unveils expansion plans" http://www.canada.com/nanaimo/story.html?id=412f076f-06b8-4943-a7cd-94e28f1bb91d Expansion plans for the Mendel, including a Joni Cafe _______________________________________ This is a free service courtesy of canada.com (http://www.canada.com) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:28:24 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Future Jonifests Hi Everyone, I know there has been a lot of talk around moving Fest to a different location in the country, specifically mid-west or west coast. Is there anyone that is willing to pick up the ball and put this together so it will actually happen? I know there are many people that would like to see Jonifest continue. If it doesn't pan out for another venue, there is the possibility of having Fest back at Full Moon around April of 2006. Since we have already been there several years, it would be very easy to put this together, and I would be willing to get back on board with this since I will have had a good long rest in between. Also, because it would be off-season, the price would most likely be considerably less. For those of you that would even consider going to another Jonifest, please e-mail me back with the following: 1) Do you prefer Jonifest back at Full Moon, or another place in the country? (Also indicate no preference if that is the case.) 2) Would you be willing to be in charge of putting together a Jonifest in another location and making it happen? 3) What are the most important factors in attending Jonifest for you? (Price, location transportation, etc.) Thanks and hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:59:24 -0500 From: "Steven Polifka" Subject: Re: Future Jonifests Ten Reasons to Have Jonifest in Milwaukee in 2005... 1. If you fly, you will land in MITCHELL FIELD. 2. Across the street from the airport is a club/restaurant calld AMELIA'S. 3. You can shop on MITCHELL STREET. 4. If your not PC, you can shop at MITCHELL FURS. 5. You can walk down Klien Drive in St. Francis... 6. Ah, let me think about number six... 7. Actually, now that I think about it, Jonifest would probably be more fun in Chicago!!! Steve >>> 10/04/04 10:28AM >>> Hi Everyone, I know there has been a lot of talk around moving Fest to a different location in the country, specifically mid-west or west coast. Is there anyone that is willing to pick up the ball and put this together so it will actually happen? I know there are many people that would like to see Jonifest continue. If it doesn't pan out for another venue, there is the possibility of having Fest back at Full Moon around April of 2006. Since we have already been there several years, it would be very easy to put this together, and I would be willing to get back on board with this since I will have had a good long rest in between. Also, because it would be off-season, the price would most likely be considerably less. For those of you that would even consider going to another Jonifest, please e-mail me back with the following: 1) Do you prefer Jonifest back at Full Moon, or another place in the country? (Also indicate no preference if that is the case.) 2) Would you be willing to be in charge of putting together a Jonifest in another location and making it happen? 3) What are the most important factors in attending Jonifest for you? (Price, location transportation, etc.) Thanks and hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:06:35 EDT From: Michaelpaz@aol.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests 1) Do you prefer Jonifest back at Full Moon, or another place in the country? (Also indicate no preference if that is the case.) Honestly I am just tired of the Full Moon. There is nothing really wrong with the joint I am just ready for a change. I would love to see it move to the west coast or mid america somewhere. Being that there is the amount of participation that you got from others this year I could be talked into doing another one in New Orleans. Since Hurricane Ivan hit the panhandle I have been thinking that it would be really cool to organize something in the Gulf Shores-Pensacola area. They really need the financial impact. The devastation is incredible there, but I have heard that the clean up is going great and by next summer they should be back to normal beautiful hot beaches. A combo New Orleans event with an after party couple of days detox in Gulf Shores could be cool. This could be cost prohibitive but.... Also I am planning a trip to Honduras right now for Christmas (we are not going to NYC as planned before) and we plan to go to the island of Roatan for a few days so I could talk to those folks again. Last check the flights are around $199 round trip from Miami, New Orleans, or Houston (only during certain times of the year). The hotel where we always stay is more of a condo kinda thing (bedroom, living room, dining room and kitchen. King bed in the bedroom and fold out couch in living room. This was about $115 per day. Breakfast and lunch are $5-$10 and Dinner $15. Of course you can cook yourself to save money. > > 2) Would you be willing to be in charge of putting together a Jonifest in > another location and making it happen? I would yes but would demand HELP from many. > > 3) What are the most important factors in attending Jonifest for you? > (Price, location transportation, > etc.) The people! and of course the sex drugs and rock and roll. > > Thanks and hugs, > Ashara > Other comments: April is by far the worst month of the year for me work wise and I venture to say that I would not to able to participate on any level if you do something during April or May. (Here's your chance to get rid of me!!!) Les how about Colorado??? There is going to be a minifest in Utah next year for the wedding. Also another minifest is scheduled for March at my bitches house in Birmingham, Alabama. More later Love Paz NP-Mrs. Jesus-Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 18:02:22 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Our Kids & Joni Hi Janine et al: Clearly you raised your daughter well: that she would KNOW that a Joni commercial on London TV DEFINITLEY merits a long-distance phone call home to Mom! Sweet! I think boys are a little different, though. My sons are jokesters. My twenty-something son Chris stopped by last Saturday night....I was have my own private Joni-fest going, with all the house lights turned up bright, and all the windows open as it was a balmy evening. I think at that moment FTR was playing. He came in and said: "You'd better turn that down or you'll have all the dogs in the neighborhood howling." Brat! Now how do you respond to THAT? I took a deep breath and the high road, ignored the barb, summoned all my Joni-grace, smiled sweetly, and said: "Well, I knew you were coming, so I wanted to have some quality, soul-enriching music on for you in case you ever venture out into cultured society." I love it when our kids acknowledge (in any way) our passion for la Joan! At least they have heard something we've tried to say. Peace, Patti P.S. Gotcha, Chris! I TOLD you I was going to report you to the Joni Police! Now Paz will never get you Jack Nielson's autograph. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 14:34:25 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: vote for Kerry Sounds good Fred. In addition, another avenue is to persuade potential Bush voters to not vote at all. . I mean, give them enough reason to not go to the polls on Nov. 2. Fred below: Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:50:05 -0400 From: FredNow@aol.com Subject: STOP THE BLEEDING .. VOTE FOR KERRY I've been thinking about how best to help Kerry win, and this is what I've come up with. I know more than a few people who are registered to vote but are still on the fence for various reasons ... they don't necessarily want to vote for Bush but they're not crazy about Kerry, either (well, neither am I). They're clinging to the noble idea of voting "for" someone, a dangerous notion to hold when the wolf has already crashed through the door while you wait for a knight in shining armor. If every person who has already decided to vote for Kerry "adopts" just one person who is on the fence and helps to convince them to vote for Kerry, he'll win, we all win. If you can help sway two, or five people, all the better. Give them information, point them to web sites and articles, tell them to rent or buy Fahrenheit 9/11 next week, or even treat them to a rental. The analogy I've come up with for myself in answer to the undecided's reluctance to vote "against" Bush instead of "for" Kerry is that when there is profuse bleeding from a wound, the first thing to do is to apply a tourniquet ... before any healing can begin, we must stop the bleeding. In fact, that's my new slogan: STOP THE BLEEDING .. VOTE FOR KERRY Peace, Fred Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:47:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: DJRD The missing part from my post, and one that has driven me nuts all day (it's true - I have no life!) is that it may have looked like I was saying bass is percussion and rhythm and nothing more. Completely not true and it's so obvious when you listen to Jaco - better yet, get the S&L video, and watch him! It makes me want to run out and buy myself a fretless bass! --- Nuriel Tobias wrote: > ...And don't forget that lovely moment on "Talk To > Me" where Joni goes chicken and Jaco echoes her... > > Nuri > > Catherine McKay wrote: > I think the guitar, and in particular the bass > guitar, > is a percussion instrument just as much as a > plucked/stringed/melodic one. The bass guitar drives > the beat and the rhythm. IMO the other instruments > should follow the bass and not the other way around, > the same way you would let a drummer set the beat. > It > helps if the bass player and the drummer have a good > sense of rhythm. ;-) > ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 00:23:32 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Future Jonifests Hi I've posted to you privately before that there's this place is SW France near Spain that would be ideal because it is THE "Back to the Garden" spot and also region. It would be very convenient from UK also because low-cost Ryan Air flies to Carcassonne. More details available upon request Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:14:41 +0100 From: colin Subject: Re: Future Jonifests Laurent Olszer wrote: >Hi > >It would be very convenient from UK also because low-cost Ryan Air flies to >Carcassonne. > > Carcassonne and surrounding area is indeed beautiful. We were there in 2003 and 2002. - -- bw colin http://www.btinternet.com/~tantraapso/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:05:40 -0400 From: "janine sherman" Subject: Re: Our Kids & Joni Hi Janine et al: > > Clearly you raised your daughter well: that she would KNOW that a Joni > commercial on London TV DEFINITELY merits a long-distance phone call home to > Mom! Sweet! > I think boys are a little different, though. My sons are jokesters. My > twenty-something son Chris stopped by last Saturday night....I was have my > own private Joni-fest going, with all the house lights turned up bright, and > all the windows open as it was a balmy evening. I think at that moment FTR > was playing. He came in and said: "You'd better turn that down or you'll > have all the dogs in the neighborhood howling." > > Brat! Now how do you respond to THAT? I took a deep breath and the high > road, ignored the barb, summoned all my Joni-grace, smiled sweetly, and > said: "Well, I knew you were coming, so I wanted to have some quality, > soul-enriching music on for you in case you ever venture out into cultured > society." > > I love it when our kids acknowledge (in any way) our passion for la Joan! > At least they have heard something we've tried to say. > > Peace, > Patti P.S. Gotcha, Chris! I TOLD you I was going to report you to the Joni Police! Now Paz will never get you Jack Nielson's autograph. Hi Patti, Thanks for the response and your sharing! Your son's comment sounds just like my husband. He admits her musical genius and loved hearing Jonifesters sing her music (is that one of HERS?), but he can not tolerate her voice for long. I just tell him to 'get over' Stevie Nicks, but Stevie IS still writing and performing in that sultry voice..... I digress. In honor of my daughter's call, I decided to go right to Amazon and buy Dreamland. I ended up buying it and The Beginning of Survival as a set at a lower total price. So I guess the advertising worked, albeit 'round Robin Hood's barn. NP: Move On: Heart Janine P.S. I just received notification that the big "Move On" concert scheduled for MCI Center next Monday night will be televised LIVE on the Sundance Channel (kudos R Redford). So we'll all get to see and hear what Bob M. is seeing in Cleveland. How was it? was Jackson Brown "over" Joni? hehe BROOOOOOOCE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:21:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: [NortheastJonifest] Future Jonifests My 2 cents though I am not able to help be in charge due to my dual(dueling?) careers these days. however I know it would be much more feasible for us & perhaps others in the west if the fest moved towards this direction. the ideas of new mexico, arizona & colorado all sound good to me. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 02:01:38 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: October 5 On October 5 the following articles were published: 1998: "Taming the Tiger" - People (Review - Album) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=241 2002: "This is Yorkville's last stand" - Toronto Star (Mention) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=934 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #284 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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