From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #209 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, July 24 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 209 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Snapshots in a Diary??? ["Ross, Les" ] RE: Snapshots in a Diary??? Call off the Search... ["Ross, Les" ] Timothy SPong and the Joni Covers Train ["robin mortlock" ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [Catherine McKay ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [Bill Dollinger ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [Smurfycopy@aol.com] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [Em ] RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) [Catherine McKay ] Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) ["Mark or Travis" ] CAS [Em ] RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) ["Wally Kairuz" ] Today's Library Links: July 24 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 07:59:29 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: Snapshots in a Diary??? While browsing for more information on the TBOS thingy, Amazon.com list Joni Mitchell's Snapshots in a Diary with a release date of September 14 2004. I'm assuming it's music. Has anyone else heard of this? Have I missed something...again? Les (London) Np. Keane - She has no time ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 08:11:14 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: Snapshots in a Diary??? Call off the Search... It's a Rhino Records collection or whatever.... ..... god is that the time?! I really must get on with......zzzzzz ~* Les Np Todd Rundgren - Godsaid > -----Original Message----- > From: Ross, Les > Sent: 23 July 2004 07:59 > To: 'Joni@smoe.org' > Subject: Snapshots in a Diary??? > > While browsing for more information on the TBOS thingy, Amazon.com list > Joni Mitchell's Snapshots in a Diary with a release date of September 14 > 2004. I'm assuming it's music. > > Has anyone else heard of this? Have I missed something...again? > > Les (London) > > Np. Keane - She has no time ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 09:26:08 +0000 From: "Raffaele Malanga" Subject: Re: What's with the ghoulish hand? - My turn to actually complain about >The hand doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the 4th similar layout for >the front cover. TI, TTT, Travelogue and now TBOS. I love the paintings, but I'm bored already with the front cover layout!! Or ... are these layouts just confined to albums with names that begin with the letter "T"? Lori, missing covers like Court And Spark >>>>>>>>>>>>> Now me: Lori I was just to write a post exactly like yours! I don't mind the hand nor the painting - I mind the lack of imagination in the cover design! Being a designer, I am probably drawn to covers too much (and sometimes buy a cd or a book only because of the cover), but come on! how about changing the template? Raf, missing covers like Mingus and DJRD. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:51:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: What's with the ghoulish hand? - My turn to actually complain about Lori wrote: >What bothers me is the > 4th similar layout for > >the > front cover. TI, TTT, Travelogue and now TBOS. I > love the paintings, but > I'm > bored already with the front cover layout!! --- Raffaele Malanga wrote: > > I was just to write a post exactly like yours! I > don't mind the hand nor the > painting - I mind the lack of imagination in the > cover design! Being a > designer, I am probably drawn to covers too much > (and sometimes buy a cd or > a book only because of the cover), but come on! how > about changing the > template? I think maybe Joni has fallen to the nasty "branding" concept - everything has to have the same look, so you know it's "Joni Mitchell brand." Same layout, same font, all that. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 04:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: What's with the ghoulish hand? Now non-ghoulish books Thanks Bob, and others who have upped this info about the book. :) Em - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > **The Mendel *was* selling her book up until recently, > but I just checked and it's now out of print :-( > > It's constantly on ebay, at first copies were fetching $150-$200. Now > you > have a couple of sellers and they generally close out around $50/$60. > Here's one > you can buy now for $69.95 or bid for $55: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29223&item=6914222885&r > d=1 > > And there's a StarArt too: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=6913537999&rd= > 1 > > Bob > > NP: Jefferson Airplane, "Lather" > ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:44:38 -0400 From: Lori Fye Subject: (Some JC) Re: What's with the ghoulish hand? - My turn to actually complain Raf wrote: > Being a designer, I am probably drawn to covers too much (and sometimes buy a > cd or a book only because of the cover) I'm not a designer (although I piddle around with graphics programs all day at work), but I've done the same thing. I bought Joy Division's "Unknown Pleasures" because of the cover -- I had never heard them until I set the record on the turntable. And, in a weird case of instant synchronicity, I was JUST about to write that I also bought LA Express's "Shadow Play" because of the cover (which was painted by Joni), but decided to see if I could find the image for "Unknown Pleasures"... Here's the image, with the word "shadowplay" in the url (weird, huh?): http://www.lwtua.free-online.co.uk/shadowplay/image/jd_unknown.jpg And, just for grins (and Joni content), here's the image for the LA Express album: http://sudo.3.pro.tok2.com/Quest/cards/L/LAExpress/ShadowPlay_x.html Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:10:55 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: Subject: DJRD Music Book > Did you find the unused words to "Paprika Plains" already? I know they're in the songbook. I think they're in the LP and CD too but don't hold me to it. Nope mine doesn't! My CD does though! Imagine if she actually used those words too, I get impatient enough with already with this song ;) NP: Malcolm In The Middle - on TV - I love this show! * * * * * * Stephen " The lower down you go to gain your momentum from, the higher up it'll propel ya' " - Judee Sill - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:52 AM Subject: Subject: DJRD Music Book > > Lama, > tanned and relaxed after getting my 'fix' from the Junkies last weekend. Man, I was jonesing real bad too. > > >Recently got the DJRD Music book in really good condition for a really good > price too! I can't read sheet music but I just think they are wonderful > things to have. Anyway I'm amazed to see the full music for 'Paprika Plains' > in there - no less than 19 pages folks!> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:53:24 +0000 From: "robin mortlock" Subject: Timothy SPong and the Joni Covers Train Hey Timothy I emailed you and your account is full - so i am sending this to you to the JMDL as you need to know all the 'rules' about sending them on when you have recorded what you need. Is your address in the US - i am assuming it is. Will send them to the address on monday. Enjoy, RObin Eric's original post: In order to enable latecomers to the list or >new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible >compilation of covers of Joni's songs - some 1500 in all - this begins the >launch of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with >trading trains, here is how they work. When the disks come to you, you >make >copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to >this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not >keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most >trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters >along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them >around >within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect >that >to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang >on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to >respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if >everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting >them >get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the >tracks for years. Bob copied 50+ disks for me to launch this and I have >copied them so there is a LOT of time sunk into offering these up. Nobody >is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and >then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you will have kept others from >enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One >final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you >want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s >permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please >pass the masters along. > >So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 41-50, please send me: >1. Your mailing address and >2. Your prom ise to reoffer, etc. > >If you want to know what is on the disks, please see this link: > >http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:18:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs for Sharin' (Bad Joni pun) - --- Em wrote: > I would love to be part of this - but I don't, at > this time , have a CD > burner. Why do I need that? > Hoping to get one soon though. > Em Did anyone answer your question? You don't NEED a CD burner to take part in this, although ultimately you will certainly want one. As long as you can listen to music on your computer, you can download songs and concerts and then turn around and share them with other people. (The last time Les set this up, I had downloaded a lot of stuff, hadn't backed it up and lost it all when my hard disc crashed - D'OH!) There's loads of Joni stuff, and a whole bunch of other people too. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:18:32 -0400 From: Subject: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) Did anyone else read the lastest news on the official site? http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html I think Joni wants to make new cover *ART* every year to keep her ghoulish hand in. If the market stays the heck away, maybe she'll get her back up. I picture her pouting for an instant then picking up a legal pad, a pen, her cigarrettes and heading outside. Once out in fresh air, the curiosity comes back... She "tunes to the sonic references available"... our own MG (living eternally as a Muse) takes the form of a gentle breeze and whispers in her ear... then... another latter-day, left field miracle like "Harlem In Havana" condenses out of thin air. Lama, impossible dreamer? PS, Can a songwriter record ideas on an iPod? We got a few albums out of the VG-8. Maybe she is waiting for a new tool to work with. That would be a clever gift from the JMDL for her birthday: a songwriting kit. Talk about dualism. It says 1. We love you AND 2. Get back to work! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) - --- jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > Did anyone else read the lastest news on the > official site? > > http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html > > I think Joni wants to make new cover *ART* every > year to keep her ghoulish hand in. If the market > stays the heck away, maybe she'll get her back up. > I picture her pouting for an instant then picking up > a legal pad, a pen, her cigarrettes and heading > outside. Are you talking about this: "Joni has a favor to ask of you. Joni and I talked for some time tonight about all of us getting a little "conspiracy" together for the release of The Beginning of Survival. How can you help? By purchasing the CD on July 27, the day it's due in stores. Tell your friends. Let's help Joni get her new CD onto the charts. "There's a very good reason for this: Joni wants to make sure that there are future collections as beautiful as this one's going to be. It's an unfortunate truth that how a CD sells when it first comes out can make or break an artist's chances for having a say on future releases. Joni doesn't want what she considers her best work to end up "in Geffen's basement." She wants to be sure that she can continue to give us releases with her latest paintings, more than just a disc inside a plastic box. "Joni's really happy with this CD. "When they see it, they'll love it, and they'll want to share it with people," she told me. "Buy two and hold on to one of them to give away as a Christmas present!" I promised her I would, of course, and hope you all will too." - ---------------------------------------- Me now: I find this tres bizarre. I think the chick is twisted. Flip city. Ooby shooby. Why the feck doesn't she just produce a really nice -- AND BIG -- art book? I'd buy it - hell, I'd buy two, maybe even three - however many I can get away with before Mastercard turns me down. Most of us have already got these songs. (Really?) Yeah, OK, you can get art with this CD. But it's CD-sized art. You'd need a fecking telescope to see it properly. Now if it were LP-size, that would be different, but we ain't going back there no more. (whine whine, bitch bitch. Obviously I just don't get it. So what. Get over it.) On a whole 'nother topic, I went over to jonimitchell.com and realized I hadn't been there for quite a while, so it was kind of fun poking around. I had a look at the "art" section (galleries in the frames index), and within that, the sheet music covers. If you've never seen this before, you really must scoot on over there and take a look at part 6, the sheet music cover from "In France they kiss on Main Street." "Allo. My name eez Zhoni Meetchell and yes, zees eez a cigarrrrette I am zmoking, so peese off, you seely bourgeois americain and leave me ze 'ell alone! C'est l'amour de la cigarette, not sheep deezplay!" I've never seen this pic before. If Muller thought the green hand was scary, he ought to have a look at this. Lauging and smoking, you know it's the same release. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:43:00 -0400 From: Bill Dollinger Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) I agree - as much as I urge people to support Joni, I don't see buying this (that's just me, I still urge everyone else to do as instructed ;-) I have all these songs, and can program the sequence into my ipod. I have cds all stored away anymore, and I agree with Catherine about the artwork being small. I would buy an artbook, for certain. Bill On Jul 23, 2004, at 10:29 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > --- jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > Did anyone else read > the lastest news on the >> official site? >> >> http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html >> >> I think Joni wants to make new cover *ART* every >> year to keep her ghoulish hand in. If the market >> stays the heck away, maybe she'll get her back up. >> I picture her pouting for an instant then picking up >> a legal pad, a pen, her cigarrettes and heading >> outside. > > Are you talking about this: > > "Joni has a favor to ask of you. Joni and I talked for > some time tonight about all of us getting a little > "conspiracy" together for the release of The Beginning > of Survival. How can you help? By purchasing the CD on > July 27, the day it's due in stores. Tell your > friends. Let's help Joni get her new CD onto the > charts. > > "There's a very good reason for this: Joni wants to > make sure that there are future collections as > beautiful as this one's going to be. It's an > unfortunate truth that how a CD sells when it first > comes out can make or break an artist's chances for > having a say on future releases. Joni doesn't want > what she considers her best work to end up "in > Geffen's basement." She wants to be sure that she can > continue to give us releases with her latest > paintings, more than just a disc inside a plastic box. > > > "Joni's really happy with this CD. "When they see it, > they'll love it, and they'll want to share it with > people," she told me. "Buy two and hold on to one of > them to give away as a Christmas present!" I promised > her I would, of course, and hope you all will too." > > ---------------------------------------- > > Me now: I find this tres bizarre. I think the chick is > twisted. Flip city. Ooby shooby. Why the feck doesn't > she just produce a really nice -- AND BIG -- art book? > I'd buy it - hell, I'd buy two, maybe even three - > however many I can get away with before Mastercard > turns me down. > > Most of us have already got these songs. (Really?) > Yeah, OK, you can get art with this CD. But it's > CD-sized art. You'd need a fecking telescope to see it > properly. Now if it were LP-size, that would be > different, but we ain't going back there no more. > (whine whine, bitch bitch. Obviously I just don't get > it. So what. Get over it.) > > On a whole 'nother topic, I went over to > jonimitchell.com and realized I hadn't been there for > quite a while, so it was kind of fun poking around. I > had a look at the "art" section (galleries in the > frames index), and within that, the sheet music > covers. > > If you've never seen this before, you really must > scoot on over there and take a look at part 6, the > sheet music cover from "In France they kiss on Main > Street." > > "Allo. My name eez Zhoni Meetchell and yes, zees eez a > cigarrrrette I am zmoking, so peese off, you seely > bourgeois americain and leave me ze 'ell alone! C'est > l'amour de la cigarette, not sheep deezplay!" > > I've never seen this pic before. If Muller thought the > green hand was scary, he ought to have a look at this. > Lauging and smoking, you know it's the same release. > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:02:08 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) **Joni wants to make sure that there are future collections as beautiful as this one's going to be.** Meanwhile, the rest of us would give our eye teeth to see her retire these Geffen recordings forever! End up in Geffen's basement??? The whole damn Geffen catalog got a remastered re-release last year, and now this "best of/worst of" Geffen monstrosity (with monster ghoul hand to match) shows up! No, I won't buy it, I will not Sam I am, and the message I'm sending is JONI PLEASE DON'T DO THIS AGAIN! Continue to create or call it a day and stop. Christ. Listen to Catherine, she's smarter than me...put out a nice glossy art book for the coffee table. Like they say down in SC, this dawg don't hunt. Meanwhile, what's this "Snapshots In A Diary" that's coming out 9/14? More Geffen? After all, she hasn't re-released "Dancin' Clown" yet. **I've never seen this pic before. If Muller thought the green hand was scary, he ought to have a look at this. Lauging and smoking, you know it's the same release.** Yikes! Paging Mrs. Beetlejuice...pretty macabre indeed, but at least she's just pale and not deathbed green. Bob NP: Spirit, "New Dope In Town" PS: At least the latest covers are HOT. Richie Havens' Woodstock is astounding, done in a Wooden Ships style, very loose and folk-rockish old school - sweet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:02:35 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) OK I'll say the thing for which you all will kick me out of the Joni club --I really don't think very much of her visual art is all that good. So it wouldn't make me buy the latest recycling of the previously released. And I agree with Catherine. When I read that on jonimitchell.com I said, "Hey, now I'm *really* not going to buy it!" I would buy any album with original compositions by Joni Mitchell--even if it was laden with both 80's synthesizers and overblown orchestral arrangements, but if she wants her fans to conspire to help her to the top of the pops, then I say she better write some fecking Joni Mitchell songs! I intend to boycott all product that doesn't give us something new. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]On Behalf Of Bill Dollinger Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 10:43 PM To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni@smoe.org; jlamadoo@fuse.net Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) I agree - as much as I urge people to support Joni, I don't see buying this (that's just me, I still urge everyone else to do as instructed ;-) I have all these songs, and can program the sequence into my ipod. I have cds all stored away anymore, and I agree with Catherine about the artwork being small. I would buy an artbook, for certain. Bill On Jul 23, 2004, at 10:29 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > --- jlamadoo@fuse.net wrote: > Did anyone else read > the lastest news on the >> official site? >> >> http://www.jonimitchell.com/Frames1.html >> >> I think Joni wants to make new cover *ART* every >> year to keep her ghoulish hand in. If the market >> stays the heck away, maybe she'll get her back up. >> I picture her pouting for an instant then picking up >> a legal pad, a pen, her cigarrettes and heading >> outside. > > Are you talking about this: > > "Joni has a favor to ask of you. Joni and I talked for > some time tonight about all of us getting a little > "conspiracy" together for the release of The Beginning > of Survival. How can you help? By purchasing the CD on > July 27, the day it's due in stores. Tell your > friends. Let's help Joni get her new CD onto the > charts. > > "There's a very good reason for this: Joni wants to > make sure that there are future collections as > beautiful as this one's going to be. It's an > unfortunate truth that how a CD sells when it first > comes out can make or break an artist's chances for > having a say on future releases. Joni doesn't want > what she considers her best work to end up "in > Geffen's basement." She wants to be sure that she can > continue to give us releases with her latest > paintings, more than just a disc inside a plastic box. > > > "Joni's really happy with this CD. "When they see it, > they'll love it, and they'll want to share it with > people," she told me. "Buy two and hold on to one of > them to give away as a Christmas present!" I promised > her I would, of course, and hope you all will too." > > ---------------------------------------- > > Me now: I find this tres bizarre. I think the chick is > twisted. Flip city. Ooby shooby. Why the feck doesn't > she just produce a really nice -- AND BIG -- art book? > I'd buy it - hell, I'd buy two, maybe even three - > however many I can get away with before Mastercard > turns me down. > > Most of us have already got these songs. (Really?) > Yeah, OK, you can get art with this CD. But it's > CD-sized art. You'd need a fecking telescope to see it > properly. Now if it were LP-size, that would be > different, but we ain't going back there no more. > (whine whine, bitch bitch. Obviously I just don't get > it. So what. Get over it.) > > On a whole 'nother topic, I went over to > jonimitchell.com and realized I hadn't been there for > quite a while, so it was kind of fun poking around. I > had a look at the "art" section (galleries in the > frames index), and within that, the sheet music > covers. > > If you've never seen this before, you really must > scoot on over there and take a look at part 6, the > sheet music cover from "In France they kiss on Main > Street." > > "Allo. My name eez Zhoni Meetchell and yes, zees eez a > cigarrrrette I am zmoking, so peese off, you seely > bourgeois americain and leave me ze 'ell alone! C'est > l'amour de la cigarette, not sheep deezplay!" > > I've never seen this pic before. If Muller thought the > green hand was scary, he ought to have a look at this. > Lauging and smoking, you know it's the same release. > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:11:46 EDT From: Smurfycopy@aol.com Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) Muller writes: << After all, she hasn't re-released "Dancin' Clown" yet. >> Damn! I curse that fact anew every day. Cherchez la femme, indeed! - --Smurf, who would have loved to see more collaborations with Billy Idol. Man, that Larry Klein was the shot in the arm Joni's career needed back then . . . "The Beach Boys didn't curse. Cursing is a bunch of malarkey." - --Brian Wilson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:09:56 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) Preach it, sister! Amen! Tell it! Thank ya, Jesus! How'd she like to see her name on the publsher's hot seller list for an art book this Christmas instead of looking in "Radio And Records" or "Billboard"? In my dweams we buy and the Barnes and Noble book buyer says, >"Women are disproportionately represented among book buyers. Literate women are disproportionately represented among Ms. Mitchell's audience. This is a natural for us. When asked Joni to go on a book signing tour, like former president Clinton did, she sat up and took notice. She'll be starting and ending in Cincinnati, Ohio."> Brother Lama npimh: "too cool to be forgotten / hey hey" Who was that? Which album? Catherine McKay wrote: > Why the feck doesn't > she just produce a really nice -- AND BIG -- art book? > I'd buy it - hell, I'd buy two, maybe even three - > however many I can get away with before Mastercard > turns me down. > > Most of us have already got these songs. (Really?) > Yeah, OK, you can get art with this CD. But it's > CD-sized art. You'd need a fecking telescope to see it > properly. Now if it were LP-size, that would be > different, but we ain't going back there no more. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:23:21 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) **--Smurf, who would have loved to see more collaborations with Billy Idol. Man, that Larry Klein was the shot in the arm Joni's career needed back then . . . Dude, you better hope that a major lightning storm doesn't pass through or your ass is grass. Really though, this TBOS thing is pretty insulting. I mean, does Joni (or her mgmt) think that we're so starry-eyed that we'll just bend over and buy anything, if all it has some new thumbnail-sized paintings? Gimme some credit for having the intelligence and tenacity it takes to be a Joni Mitchell fan in 2004. As I've said before, this release has NO market whatsoever. Bob NP: Mike Bloomfield/Al Kooper, "Dear Mr. Fantasy" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) dang ya'll are in fine form tonight! its refreshing to hear this anarchy! soon; wine flowing through the gutters..and knitting.... Em NP Last Chance (bit I'm gonna put it back on TI) - --- Smurfycopy@aol.com wrote: > Muller writes: > > << After all, she hasn't re-released "Dancin' Clown" yet. >> > > > Damn! I curse that fact anew every day. Cherchez la femme, indeed! > > --Smurf, who would have loved to see more collaborations with Billy > Idol. > Man, that Larry Klein was the shot in the arm Joni's career needed > back then . . > . > > > "The Beach Boys didn't curse. Cursing is a bunch of malarkey." > > --Brian Wilson > ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:30:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > OK I'll say the thing for which you all will kick > me out of the Joni > club --I really don't think very much of her visual > art is all that good. > > So it wouldn't make me buy the latest recycling of > the previously released. I doubt you'd get kicked out for that. I'd buy an art book simply because it's Joni doing it. I like her art well enough that I'd buy it because it's *her* art, but am not generally blown away by most of her stuff. I like some of it. I'm not sure if any of it is original or different enough so you could look at it and identify it as a Joni Mitchell, but I could be wrong. (The self-portraits don't count.) I don't have an art background and my eyesight sucks anyway! I definitely don't want the micro-sized versions of it with the bonus re-re-re-released Geffen stuff. Is she selling art with a bonus of music, or music with a bonus of art? Either way doesn't do much for me. If she wants to push her art, she needs a different format. I'm with you in that I want some NEW stuff, dammit! It can even be mediocre, as long as it's new; if not new, then previusly unreleased old stuff. Joni must have something to say, in words and music. If not, Joni, if you're listening, there are a whole bunch of us out here (OK, maybe not that many, LOL, but I'm sure many more than want another box of stuff you just re-released recently) that would be happy to buy a boxed set of your early, unreleased stuff, or any of the alternate versions of things that we've only heard about. And you could put a whole lot of art in it too, but please make it a real box, and not that weird overpriced promotional candy/hatbox version that BSN came in (I didn't buy that version anyway 'cause I thought it looked goofy and I'm cheap), and anyway, those things don't fit really well onto a shelf. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:47:18 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) > npimh: > "too cool to be forgotten / hey hey" > Who was that? Which album? > Don't know if this inquiry was meant to be serious but you would be referring to Lucinda Williams from 'Car Wheels on a Gravel Road'. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 21:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: CAS listening to this after many months of not hearing it. wow! is it so WRONG to desire more of this??? top notch... yep. maybe travel in space and time to a parallel universe and there would be the "other" CAS. :P em ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 01:59:39 -0300 From: "Wally Kairuz" Subject: RE: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) lawd!!!!!! this is the maddest i've evah seen mr muller and i love it!!!!! glory be! *W* > -----Mensaje original----- > De: owner-joni@jmdl.com [mailto:owner-joni@jmdl.com]En nombre de > SCJoniGuy@aol.com > Enviado el: Sabado, 24 de Julio de 2004 12:02 a.m. > Para: anima_rising@yahoo.ca; jlamadoo@fuse.net; joni@smoe.org > Asunto: Re: BS, 100% JC (aka tBoS) > > > **Joni wants to > make sure that there are future collections as > beautiful as this one's going to be.** > > Meanwhile, the rest of us would give our eye teeth to see her > retire these > Geffen recordings forever! End up in Geffen's basement??? The > whole damn Geffen > catalog got a remastered re-release last year, and now this "best > of/worst of" > Geffen monstrosity (with monster ghoul hand to match) shows up! > No, I won't > buy it, I will not Sam I am, and the message I'm sending is JONI > PLEASE DON'T > DO THIS AGAIN! > Continue to create or call it a day and stop. Christ. Listen to > Catherine, > she's smarter than me...put out a nice glossy art book for the > coffee table. > Like they say down in SC, this dawg don't hunt. > > Meanwhile, what's this "Snapshots In A Diary" that's coming out > 9/14? More > Geffen? After all, she hasn't re-released "Dancin' Clown" yet. > > **I've never seen this pic before. If Muller thought the > green hand was scary, he ought to have a look at this. > Lauging and smoking, you know it's the same release.** > > Yikes! Paging Mrs. Beetlejuice...pretty macabre indeed, but at > least she's > just pale and not deathbed green. > > Bob > > NP: Spirit, "New Dope In Town" > > PS: At least the latest covers are HOT. Richie Havens' Woodstock is > astounding, done in a Wooden Ships style, very loose and > folk-rockish old school - > sweet. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 02:12:21 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: July 24 On July 24 the following article was published: 1974: "Joni adds a show" - Detroit News (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=947 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #209 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)