From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #192 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, July 7 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 192 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- ...America again [JRMCo1@aol.com] Joni tribute at Winnipeg Folk Festival ["Les Irvin" ] Joni mention in Sydney Morning Herald [Melissa ] Joni Interview ["Richard Flynn" ] JOni Interview 2 ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: ...America again [Catherine McKay ] Offer closed: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 41-50 of JM Covers [Do] State of the list ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] LOL - Sarcastic Joni lyrics [KindTaper@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:38:52 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: ...America again In his speech from Pennsylvania announcing Sen. John Edwards as his running mate, President Kerry quoted poet Langston Hughes, saying "Let America Be America Again." I thought some of you might be interested in reading the entire poem he was quoting from, so I've pasted it below. See if you can find the Joni TBOS synchro below. (Did I say "President Kerry?" just getting used to it, I guess. Rolls off the tongue pretty nicely, I think.) - -Julius > Let America be America again. > Let it be the dream it used to be. > Let it be the pioneer on the plain > Seeking a home where he himself is free. > > (America never was America to me.) > > Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed-- > Let it be that great strong land of love > Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme > That any man be crushed by one above. > > (It never was America to me.) > > O, let my land be a land where Liberty > Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath, > But opportunity is real, and life is free, > Equality is in the air we breathe. > > (There's never been equality for me, > Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.") > > Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark? > And who are you that draws your veil across the stars? > > I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart, > I am the Negro bearing slavery's scars. > I am the red man driven from the land, > I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek-- > And finding only the same old stupid plan > Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak. > > I am the young man, full of strength and hope, > Tangled in that ancient endless chain > Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land! > Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need! > Of work the men! Of take the pay! > Of owning everything for one's own greed! > > I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil. > I am the worker sold to the machine. > I am the Negro, servant to you all. > I am the people, humble, hungry, mean-- > Hungry yet today despite the dream. > Beaten yet today--O, Pioneers! > I am the man who never got ahead, > The poorest worker bartered through the years. > > Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream > In the Old World while still a serf of kings, > Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true, > That even yet its mighty daring sings > In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned > That's made America the land it has become. > O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas > In search of what I meant to be my home-- > For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore, > And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea, > And torn from Black Africa's strand I came > To build a "homeland of the free." > > The free? > > Who said the free? Not me? > Surely not me? The millions on relief today? > The millions shot down when we strike? > The millions who have nothing for our pay? > For all the dreams we've dreamed > And all the songs we've sung > And all the hopes we've held > And all the flags we've hung, > The millions who have nothing for our pay-- > Except the dream that's almost dead today. > > O, let America be America again-- > The land that never has been yet-- > And yet must be--the land where every man is free. > The land that's mine--the poor man's, Indian's, Negro's, ME-- > Who made America, > Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain, > Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain, > Must bring back our mighty dream again. > > Sure, call me any ugly name you choose-- > The steel of freedom does not stain. > From those who live like leeches on the people's lives, > We must take back our land again, > America! > > O, yes, > I say it plain, > America never was America to me, > And yet I swear this oath-- > America will be! > > Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death, > The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies, > We, the people, must redeem > The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers. > The mountains and the endless plain-- > All, all the stretch of these great green states-- > And make America again! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 09:36:06 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Joni tribute at Winnipeg Folk Festival Joniphiles - The Winnipeg Folk Festival happens this weekend in Manitoba. http://www.winnipegfolkfestival.com/ On Sunday, July 11th from 11:00 am - 12:15 pm they will be featuring "Joni's Jukebox", songs from Ms Mitchell done by: Brandy Zdan & Dave Quanbury Greg MacPherson Dan Frechette The Wailin' Jennys Hopefully someone will be able attend and report! Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:14:43 +1000 From: Melissa Subject: Joni mention in Sydney Morning Herald The Sydney Morning Herald (Australia) is running a series to celebrate 50 years of Rock. Today9s edition profiles the 1970s, and there are a couple of Joni references in the article. The full article can be viewed at There is also an Elvis Costello reference, which should please Bob! The printed article boldly goes on to nominate Blue as one of the five top albums of the decade, alongside Led Zeppelin's IV, Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express, Stevie Wonder Innervisions (or Songs of the Key of Life) and The Clash London Calling. You can also vote for your favourite song and album at . Alas, no Joni songs to vote for, but two Joni albums (Blue and C&S). NP: Talking Heads, Heaven ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:41:24 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Joni Interview Hey Joniphiles: I read a manuscript for columbia University Press recently, and in choosing books from thier catalogue for payment I came across a book by Alice Echols called Shaky Ground: The Sixties and its Aftershocks (2001). I have ordered it. But has anyone read the interview that constitutes chapter 15? It's called ``The Soul of a Martian'': A Conversation with Joni Mitchell." Echols has also published a pretty good bio of Janis Joplin. In any event, it's $18.50 in paperback and available here: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/023110/023110670X.HTM Yours, Richard Richard Flynn Professor Dept. of Literature and Philosophy Georgia Southern University Statesboro, GA 30460-8023 Home page: http://www.GeorgiaSouthern.edu/~rflynn "We go to college to be given one more chance to learn to read in case we haven't learned in High School. Once we have learned to read, the rest can be trusted to add itself unto us." --Robert Frost, "Poetry and School" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:48:24 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: JOni Interview 2 It may be that the interview is a version of what's in the JMDL library. When I get the book, I'll compare and let y'all know: http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=165 Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:51:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: ...America again - --- JRMCo1@aol.com wrote: > In his speech from Pennsylvania announcing Sen. John > Edwards as his running > mate, President Kerry quoted poet Langston Hughes, > saying "Let America Be > America Again." I thought some of you might be > interested in reading the entire > poem he was quoting from, so I've pasted it below. > > See if you can find the Joni TBOS synchro below. Reading that made me want to read more Langston Hughes. I had forgotten what a wonderful poet he is. He puts out so much power using simple vocabulary. So I did a google search and went to a site, and one of the first names in a bibliography list of his poetry is "The Weary Blues." ("These hectic joys, these weary blues" - Joni again!) http://www.poets.org/poems/poems.cfm?45442B7C000C07010E75 and you can hear him read one of his poems, "The Negro speaks of rivers" at http://www.poets.org/poems/poems.cfm?45442B7C000C07030C71 ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:10:08 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Offer closed: Perpetual Joni Covers Train: Volumes 41-50 of JM Covers Covers #41-#50 going to Robin in Ireland. Still looking for covers 1-10 Doug Thanks to Kenny B, I can offer this set to the first reply and promise to re-offer. I still have Covers 31-40 I'm looking for Covers 1-10 Doug Eric's original post: In order to enable latecomers to the list or new traders have a chance of listening to Bob Muller's incredible compilation of covers of Joni's songs - some 1500 in all - this begins the launch of the Perpetual Joni Covers Trains. For those not familiar with trading trains, here is how they work. When the disks come to you, you make copies of as much of the contents as you want, and then you post back to this list offering to pass the disks along to the next person. You do not keep the originals -- you keep the copies you made for yourself. On most trains, the convention is that you make the copies and send the masters along within two days. For these trains, you must agree to turn them around within one week. Sometimes the offer goes unclaimed. Bob and I expect that to happen from time to time. So, by participating, you agree to just hang on to the disks and then make another offer a month or so later (or to respond if somebody posts a grovel looking for them). In theory, if everybody takes good care of the disks, wrapping them well, not letting them get scratched, etc. and passes them along, these covers will run on the tracks for years. Bob copied 50+ disks for me to launch this and I have copied them so there is a LOT of time sunk into offering these up. Nobody is going to monitor the progress of these trains so if you participate and then lose the disks or fail to reoffer them, you will have kept others from enjoying them. When you post an offer, please include these "rules". One final note, I know a few folks like to compress these into MP3s. If you want to, go ahead but please do not send MP3s to the next person - MP3s permanently delete some of the "data" and sound quality degrades so please pass the masters along. So, anybody who would like to receive volumes 41-50, please send me: 1. Your mailing address and 2. Your promise to reoffer, etc. If you want to know what is on the disks, please see this link: http://www.jmdl.com/covers/byvolume.cfm . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:57:02 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: State of the list Whoa! Messling, Irvin & "Kakki from Los Angeles" in one digest! Rock on. I thought the JMDL was dying. Lurking but not like Dulson, Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY The prehistoric rule is that the "State of the list" is JC, right? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:28:27 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Beginning of Survival JONI RELEASE JULY 27 Uh-oh, ICE has called BS, "The first theme-oriented collection". If this was an episode of The West Wing, a month ago the press officer (C.J. Craig) would have said, "W-ah-lll!! If she's gonna do more of these, there's gonna be some resistance. I better soften up the ground, first. I'll float the idea in ICE." Lama, who's not looking forward to "The Beginning of Sunday Morning Sunny Songs" nor "The Beginning of Challenging Jazz Influenced Pop Songs" nor "The Beginning of Piano Flavored Pieces", and certianly not "The Death of Metaphor". But I wouldn't mine trying Taylor's Ham before I check out, or seeing a DVD of the first Carnegie Hall show. Someone posting from the "Music Is Special" account said, >(the) Current issue of ICE says on page 11: >The first theme-oriented collection by Joni Mitchell > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:34:33 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Audiophile's Corner It's been a long while since I used this subject line. I can check off another life-long ambition: I now have a premium pressing of what may be Joni Mitchell's most signifcant statement on the art of revealing songwriting: BLUE. As far as I can tell, Reprise in the Netherlands (hey!) pressed it on 180 grams of vinyl. It was picked up by Simply Vinyl in the UK I guess and I've seen that advertised. Strangely, mine came from a dealer in Australia. It's a small world... but being true believers, we all have known that for a long time. Lama ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 01:33:26 EDT From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: LOL - Sarcastic Joni lyrics I was listening to "Amelia" from "Hejira", after reading how so many people love that as their favorite album. I thought this line was funny: "People will tell you where they're from, They'll tell you where to go". BUT what I heard was: "People won't tell you where their from, they'll tell you where to go". Before I read the lyrics, I took this as a sad, but true comment on our sometimes narcissistic society. I began to think about other lyrics in which Joni is sarcastic (something I love about her). I also love this line from "Song for Sharon" "And she lit a candle for my love luck, and $18 went up in smoke". Any other funny or sarcastic Joni lyrics anyone would like to share? Thanks, Wes ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #192 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)