From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #190 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, July 5 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 190 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: A studio of one's own - a female Schubert? or Beehthoven? ["Mark or ] Re: Songs that mention 4th of July ["Mark or Travis" ] RE: A studio of one's own - a female Schubert? or Beehthoven? ["Kate Ben] Today's Library Links: July 5 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] Night Ride Home [Rob & Tracy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:15:21 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: A studio of one's own - a female Schubert? or Beehthoven? ), I found a page > dealing with neglected women composers, some of whom I > had heard of before (like Klara S., Fanny M and Cecile > Chaminade), but most of whom I had not: > http://www.ambache.co.uk/wNavigate.htm > This a great site, Catherine! Thanks for posting it. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:17:39 -0700 From: "Mark or Travis" Subject: Re: Songs that mention 4th of July > LOL! Then there's the classic: > I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy > Yankee Doodle, do or die > A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam, > Born on the 4th of July. > How about that Rogers and Hammerstein tune from 'South Pacific': I'm as corny as Kansas in August High as a flag on the 4th of July If you'll excuse an expression I use I'm in love with a wonderful guy! M E in S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 23:30:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Night Ride Home - --- Jamie Zubairi wrote: > Hi Catherine > You might already have had a number of replies to > this but... The Only Joy In Town is the same tuning > as NRH and Hejira, My Secret Place and perhaps a few > others... if you're in the same tuning for NRH then > just capo up two steps so you don't tune the middle > D string to an E. I don't like staying in TOJIT > tuning as it is higher like Coyote and DJRD and > WOHAM where that B is tuned to a C. > Thanks, Jamie. That's not so bad. I guess I should've just looked it up. That'll be the next tuning-family project, because I like all of those songs. Right now I'm trying to stay in the same tuning family because I'm constantly breaking strings. Tuning down's not so bad - it's tuning up that kills. I'm doing Coyote and DJRD, but a tone lower, so I don't have to tune the B up to C at all (for some songs, I put the capo on 1 or 2 with the guitar tuned to BbFCEbBbD instead of CGDFCE (but I often break the G string trying to tune back up from Eb - it's probably due to the shoddy way I put the string on to begin with. I figure if I get the damn thing on there at all, that's a good start. Next step, learn to do it right). I wish guitars just strung themselves. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:53:56 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: A studio of one's own - a female Schubert? or Beehthoven? >Wow, Kate! Thanks for that interesting tidbit. That's just the kind of thing I was hoping my post might turn up. I'd like to know more about this sister of Mozart's if anyone has any more information. Mark> Here is the first thing I found I'm sure there is more... just google mozart's sister... "Mozart's sister Sister Maria Anna Walburga Ignatia Mozart, called Nannerl, was born on July 30, 1751 in Salzburg. Nannerl also was a musical talent, an excellent pianist. Father Leopold took her on journeys through Europe together with brother Wolfgang Amadeus. They played Duetts. In the age of 16 Nannerl was no longer called a wonder-child, but than marriagable woman. Father Leopold did no longer take her on journeys. She only played for halfpublic audience in Salzburg and did housework after mother's death 1778. Father Leopold ignored not only her compositions, but also her love to the director of the Salzburger Pagerie, Franz d'Ippold. Nannerl had to marry a man selected by father Leopold, a realm baron Johann Baptist Berchtold zu Sonnenburg (born 1736), a widower with 5 children. They married on August 23, 1784. Nannerl left Salzburg in the same year to go to St.Gilgen to her mother's birth house. Nannerl had 3 children, on July 27, 1785 son Leopold was born in the "Tanzmeisterhaus" (dance master house), Makartplatz 8-9 in Salzburg. She was still intimately connected with her brother Wolfgang Amadeus. After the death of her husband 1801 she moved to Salzburg again. She was working as piano-teacher and also worked on a complete index Mozart's works. She died on October 29, 1829 in Salzburg. Her grave is at Peter cemetery behind the church Stiftskirche in the Kommunegruft." http://www.vienna.cc/e/music/mozart_nannerl.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 02:13:34 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: July 5 On July 5 the following articles were published: 1968: "Singer-Songwriters Are Making a Comeback" - New York Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=799 1983: "Joni Mitchell Manages to Fuse Musical Styles" - Detroit Free Press (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=979 1999: "Central Park SummerStage" - New Yorker (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=35 2000: "Portrait of a singer's inner soul" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Review - Art Show) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=531 2002: "Canada honours Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn" - Jam! Website (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=898 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 00:09:28 -0600 From: Rob & Tracy Subject: Night Ride Home Marianne, Catherine the Great, and Mark (is this the same Mark in Seattle!?!?!?!?!?) wrote commenting on NRH, and oddly enough, I haven't listened to this in ages, so I just pulled it out again. I know I've said it before, but I just can't get my head around those who do not like "Nothing Can Be Done." I swear, it is one of my top ten favorite Joni tracks - there's something so poignant about it, and I gotta tell ya, I loved the song when NRH was released, back when I was 21, and 13 years later, the whole "I am not old/I'm told/but I am not young" thing is really starting to mean more than I ever thought it would.... The song really strikes a chord with me, and unlike many, I give props to Klein on this one. As for the rest of the album, I love it, especially the title track, which I find so achingly romantic. I love "Come in from the Cold" as well, which actually got some airplay around here, and while "Cherokee Louise" makes me wince because the whole thing is a little too close to home (race and geography all in one), I love the song. However, while I do like songs like "Passion Play" and "the Windfall", they sort of get on my nerves at the same time, because - dare I say it - Joni is just a tad too preachy and cranky. I loved her mindset on DED, as y'all know, but NRH is in so many ways a return to "classic" Joni, or autobiographical Joni, or whatever you want to call it, but these tracks just sort of sit there for me, not a part of the whole. I dunno, I am just so discouraged with the contemporary Joni and the bitterness, and I am sad that all we seem to hear is the crankiness and the hurt now, and I just relate the origins of that with this album. So anyway, that's my boring ramble. Have a lovely week! Evian np: the hideous sounds of overalls in the dryer ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #190 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)