From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #187 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, July 3 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 187 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Best of Covers Vol 1? ["Happy The Man" ] On this day in Joni History ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: On this day in Joni History [Em ] Re: Best of Covers Vol 1? [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] A simple & complex line [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: A simple & complex line ["Norman Pennington" ] Howard Soloman RIP [frasere@intergate.ca] Re: Howard Soloman RIP and Marlon Brando too [Catherine McKay ] Re: Howard Soloman RIP and Marlon Brando too [Em ] Joni in Clinton Memoir [JRMCo1@aol.com] Today's Library Links: July 3 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:17:43 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Best of Covers Vol 1? BoB, Have you thought of a best of covers CD. Of course because of living in lurkdom I hardly ever get a chance to read postings. And if you have thought or actually made one what are the top 15 covers that you or others think would be on it. Personal favorite and I by know means have heard probably more then a few in my life is: Diana Krall - Case of You. Peace, Craig NP: Finn Brothers - new single don't know the name - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: Covers 54, Where Aaaaare You? > How can it be July already - man oh man, half the year is done - can you > believe it? > Speaking of hard to believe, with another new month comes a new collection of > Joni covers, and July's collection, Volume 54 is like a box of cheap South > Carolina fireworks; some work and are really explosive, and a couple are duds. > But at least with the Covers, there's no having to pickup all those bottle > rocket sticks! > > Thanks to my buddy and helper extraordinaire Paul Maggio for his assistance > with this volume. And here's what you'll hear (Emiliano, I'll try to remember > to put in all the song titles!): > > 1. George Sawyn - 2 By Joni: It's a medley of Paprika Plains & Pirate of > Penance! Just kidding, it's a pretty acoustic guitar medley of BSN and Circle > Game. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/georgesawyn > 2. Alan Caddy Orchestra - Woodstock: The UK put out lots of soundalike > versions of Matthews Southern Comfort's cover...for the love of God, why? > 3. Yoghill - Refuge Of The Roads: Those of you who have heard Thierry > Antoine's songs know that as a Frenchman he has trouble with his R's. That makes this > selection a particularly challenging one, but if you can get past his accent > (no problem for me) you'll hear a simply lovely guitar and I like they way he > picks up the pace a bit. > 4. Repairs - Michael From Mountains > 5. Repairs - Woodstock: I know what you're thinking...Bob, you idiot, you had > MfM on Volume 7! Well, these are both from a live record that Repairs did, so > it's a different recording, so there, nyah. Pretty much the same arrangement > though, and I like their take on Woodstock a lot, it's got a nice funky chunky > feel to it, and if you haven't heard their treatment of Mfm it's real nice. > 6. Charlie Matthews - Both Sides Now: Why is it all these UK easy listening > dudes sound like Anthony Newley? > 7. Betty Buckley - Amelia: This is an audience recording made from her recent > cabaret show. She does a great job and is a big big Joni fan as we know, > she's done quite a few and they're all stellar. > 8. Don Conoscenti - River: This one is my pick as the favorite on this disc. > Don's voice is simultaneously fragile and strong, and the harmonies and > piano/guitar here are exquisite. And he adds a unique touch by incorporating pieces > of 'Auld Lang Syne' and even Lennon's 'Imagine'. A very moving ending to a > song that always makes my eyes wet anyway. > 9. Allan Omar Castro - Both Sides Now: Originally from The Phippines, now an > NYC cabaret performer. This is pretty nice - hear a part of it at: > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/allanomarcastro > 10. Dixie Crosby - Blue Motel Room: This one's a bit ragged, maybe that's > what Ms. Crosby is trying to achieve, that down and out effect. She actually > reminds me of Lucinda Williams a bit. Anyway, I won't badmouth a Hejira cover. > 11. Ernie Watts - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat: A nice instrumental jazz stretch > with fine playing all around. Ernie plays the sax, but allows everyone some nice > solos. > 12. Tony Malone - Carey/Morning Morgantown: Nothing I can say will describe > this track, a medley of the two songs done in a dixieland/bluegrass/polka > style. See I told you it was indescribable! Tony was an 80's Toronto rocker who > formed a band called Drastic Measures. I've never heard of him but maybe some of > you Canadians can fill me in. This one is a lot of fun - VERY unique to say > the least. > 13. Stacy Frank - Both Sides Now: This one's a recent recording, but it > retains the cheesiness of BSN's recorded decades ago. > 14. Gemma Schettino - Big Yellow Taxi: > 15. Gemma Schettino - Carey: She's got a nice voice, these songs are not easy > to sing when you get down and to it, and she navigates them pretty well. Nice > guitar accompaniment too - sounds like an inspired Jonifest performance, > which I say as a compliment. > 16. Mayumi Itsuwa - Both Sides Now: This woman is so beautiful I have fallen > totally in love with her. I only hope she's on on the list and is reading this > now - Mayumi, come run away with me NOW. Oh, and the song's nice too - she > sounds like Nancy Wilson (Heart, not that other one) with a slight Japanese > touch. > 17. Deborah Thacker - Help Me: Deborah plays Help Me pretty close to the > original, a little simpler arrangement, singing the flute part and giving it a > carefree feeling. Unfortunately, after hearing Karrin Allyson's version, this one > is tough to judge. > 18. Celeste Prince - A Case Of You: This one is not like Joni's at all, it > has a hip-hoppy Alanis vibe to it, and not surprising as it was produced by Glen > Ballard. I appreciate her updating the sound and taking a chance of > converting it to a pop ballad sorta thing. Hear some of it at: > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/celesteprince > > And that brings us to another close of another volume; 18 tracks, over 76 > minutes of Joni-related goodness. If you already have a copy I'd love to hear > what you think. If you don't have a copy and would like one, let me know. And if > you want to win a copy, stay tuned and I'll have another giveaway soon. > > Yours in covers, > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:05:10 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: On this day in Joni History According to the New York Times, "On July 2, 1937, aviator Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan disappeared over the Pacific Ocean while attempting to make the first round-the-world flight at the equator." This morning I lift my coffee mug in the names of Amelia & Fred. They taught me that courage is a noble trait and that a backup method of navigating never hurt either. All the best, Lama ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:26:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: On this day in Joni History Hi Lama, thanks for the reminder - I will go boil water for tea now, so I may raise my cup as well. Haven't thought about Amelia E. in a long time. Used to be quite fascinated by this heartbreaking mystery. Will raise my mug to Noonan as well...sure do wonder what happened. Have a great day Lama. (and all) Em NP "Hoochi Coochie Man" Allmans (on Radio Margaritaville thru iTunes) - --- "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" wrote: > According to the New York Times, > > "On July 2, 1937, aviator Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan > disappeared over the Pacific Ocean while attempting to make the first > > round-the-world flight at the equator." > > This morning I lift my coffee mug in the names of Amelia & Fred. > They > taught me that courage is a noble trait and that a backup method of > navigating never hurt either. > > All the best, > Lama > ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:02:11 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: Best of Covers Vol 1? **Have you thought of a best of covers CD. Of course because of living in lurkdom I hardly ever get a chance to read postings. Well, if you were a better reader than you'd know that I'm WAY ahead of ya there Craigster. I put out a "Bob's Sweet 16" 2 years ago, and Volume 2 last year. Matter of fact, I pulled it off the rack and put it on, and man is it SWEET! Not all of these artists are household names, but that doesn't stop these from being A-1 collections. David Sapp calls them "essential listening" for Joni fans. Now that I think about it though, I guess I'm pulling a TBOS by putting out comps of already released stuff - Dios Mio! Here's what's on these 2 cd's: 1. Lydia van Dam b All I Want 2. Will Taylor b Black Crow 3. Karin Allyson b Blue Motel Room 4. The Rumba Club b This Flight Tonight 5. Anni Clark b He Comes For Conversation 6. Christine Sullivan b I Think I Understand 7. Mark Wise b Woodstock 8. Prince b A Case Of You 9. Gregson & Collister b Same Situation 10. Bonnie Raitt b That Song About The Midway 11. Jack Donahue b Little Green 12. Chaka Khan b Man From Mars 13. Carla Helmbrecht b Song To A Seagull 14. Kevyn Lettau b You Turn Me On Ibm A Radio 15. Counting Crows b Big Yellow Taxi 16. Carl Verheyen b Cactus Tree bBobbs Sweet Sixteenb b Take Two 1. Judd Grossman b Carey 2. Pam Bricker b Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 3. Melissa Errico b Night Ride Home 4. Sara Hickman b Chelsea Morning 5. Blue Tapestry b In France They Kiss On Main Street 6. Terry Gonda b Both Sides Now 7. Diana Krall b A Case Of You 8. Erinn Brown b Urge For Going 9. Beth Nielsen Chapman b You Turn Me On Ibm A Radio 10. Avalon Motel b Blue 11. Jonathan Cohen b Woodstock (with Christine Sullivan) 12. Itxaso & Daniel Perez b Cherokee Louise 13. Lorna Grant b Big Yellow Taxi 14. Renata Friedrich b Moon At The Window 15. A Bird That Whistles b Hejira 16. Lydia van Dam - Love Happy to make you copies if you're interested - you'll see that your pick is track #7 on Volume 2! And will there be a Volume 3 in the giveaway pack for those who go the Fest? Well, you'll just have to sign up and go and find out. Bob NP: Anni Clark, "Conversation" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:37:47 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: A simple & complex line You know how you hear these Joni lines 1 zillion times and they breeze right by you, and then WHAM all of a sudden they hit you like a ton of bricks? I was just listening to Lydia van Dam's superb take on "All I Want" and this line just leapt up at me: "I love you when I forget about me" Boy, the more you think about that one the deeper it gets. Is it complimentary? Is it a slam? Is it self-deprecating? All or none of the above? Bob NP: still that killer Chaka cover ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 18:07:34 -0600 From: "Norman Pennington" Subject: Re: A simple & complex line Bob expressed wonderment at still another great Joni line thusly: > You know how you hear these Joni lines 1 zillion times and they breeze right > by you, and then WHAM all of a sudden they hit you like a ton of bricks? I was > just listening to Lydia van Dam's superb take on "All I Want" and this line > just leapt up at me: > > "I love you when I forget about me" > > Boy, the more you think about that one the deeper it gets. Is it > complimentary? Is it a slam? Is it self-deprecating? All or none of the above? I've always interpreted that line as re-enforcement of the theory that true loves abandons or rises above self, or perhaps self-conciousness. The merging of souls, if you will. But, that said (and it's MY take), you are oh-so-right Bob when you suggest it could be "all of the above." "Love is touching souls surely you touched mine..." Best Regards, bp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:28:13 -0700 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: Best of Covers Vol 1? Hey Bob! I agree! Both are just great- hard to choose a fave song- there are many, but Prince doing a shortened version of A Case of You blows me away. Man! that guy is genius. I urge all of you listers to take Bob up on his offer. Best, Stephen in Vancouver NP: Richard Bona Munia- the tale Quoting SCJoniGuy@aol.com: > > Well, if you were a better reader than you'd know that I'm WAY ahead of ya > there Craigster. I put out a "Bob's Sweet 16" 2 years ago, and Volume 2 last > year. Matter of fact, I pulled it off the rack and put it on, and man is it > SWEET! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:35:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: A simple & complex line - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: > You know how you hear these Joni lines 1 zillion > times and they breeze right > by you, and then WHAM all of a sudden they hit you > like a ton of bricks? I was > just listening to Lydia van Dam's superb take on > "All I Want" and this line > just leapt up at me: > > "I love you when I forget about me" > > Boy, the more you think about that one the deeper it > gets. Is it > complimentary? Is it a slam? Is it self-deprecating? > All or none of the above? Yeah, as usual, with Joni, what might be simple ain't necessarily so, and can mean a bunch of things. I think she's saying that she tends to be so self-absorbed and/or self-conscious or inward-looking, that she can only love the guy when she stops thinking about herself, or when she can stop just *thinking* so much. It could be a compliment to the guy (I love you so much that you make me forget about me-me-me), or it could be a bit of a slight (I only love you when I forget about me - which isn't all that often!) Self-deprecating? Yes, I think so - how many people can make an admission of that kind? Over-analyzing complicates the shit out of things, but some people just can't help it! Think of some of her other lines: "I'm so hard to handle. I'm selfish and I'm sad." "...she rallies her defenses For she fears that one will ask her For eternity And she's so busy being free." "He saw my complications And he mirrored me back simplified" "It was all so light and easy Till I started analyzing And I brought on my old ways A thunderhead of judgment was Gathering in my gaze" "Love has always made me Feel so uneasy I couldn't relax and just be me" And you know, you know, you know... ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:40:33 -0700 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Howard Soloman RIP Howard Soloman, owner of Cafe Au Go Go in Greenwhich Village in the 60's-70's, passed away June 3rd, age 75. The Cafe was a hotbed for launching many acts of the day, and Joni played there a number of times. She and Fred Neil, whom she met there, performed at a 1976 save the whales benefit concert in CA. Howard was also the manager of Fred Neil (Midnight Cowboy and The Dolphins), for some time. He was active til his death on the Fred Neil list. He is probably most famous for being arrested along with Lenny Bruce who profaned considerably at the Cafe- Soloman's charges were later dropped. If anyone cares for more info, go to fredneil.com and you can read the latest threads, including a few from Richie Havens, an old friend of Howard's. I believe there is also a website for Cafe Au Go Go, tho' not all that current. Best, Stephen in Vancouver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 22:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Howard Soloman RIP and Marlon Brando too - --- frasere@intergate.ca wrote: > Howard Soloman, owner of Cafe Au Go Go in Greenwhich > Village in the 60's-70's, > passed away June 3rd, age 75. The Cafe was a hotbed > for launching many acts of > the day, and Joni played there a number of times. > She and Fred Neil, whom she > met there, performed at a 1976 save the whales > benefit concert in CA. And then there's Marlon Brando. I had no idea he was that old - 80. I figured maybe 70. RIP Howard and Marlon. ===== Catherine Toronto - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 19:55:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: A simple & complex line reminds me of a woman I know who is hugely egotistical but also hugely intelligent, and so, because of her intelligence, she has great perspective over her own weirdness. Every once in a while she lets go of it, perhaps though, not by design - - but by season, maybe? Anyway, sometimes it fades away. I think its a blessing for these amazingly heavily egotistical people when that aspect falls away. Then they are free and life is lighter, though perhaps less controlled and defineable. I've pondered that line too..but knew someone just like that, so it wasn't such a mystery. Em :) ps TI hath arriven at my house, but I'm struggling to move beyond that aweful echoey, effect ridden arranging/production. Why? why? Whyyyyyy????? "it's nature's way of telling you..something's wrong.." - --- SCJoniGuy@aol.com wrote: and > this line > just leapt up at me: > > "I love you when I forget about me" > > Boy, the more you think about that one the deeper it gets. Is it > complimentary? Is it a slam? Is it self-deprecating? All or none of > the above? ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 20:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Howard Soloman RIP and Marlon Brando too this reminds me of that Steve Goodman song "The Twentieth Century is Almost Over". Ain't it the truth. Scary. and yes, RIP all.. Em - --- Catherine McKay wrote: > --- frasere@intergate.ca wrote: > Howard Soloman, > owner of Cafe Au Go Go in Greenwhich > > Village in the 60's-70's, > > passed away June 3rd, age 75. The Cafe was a hotbed > > for launching many acts of > > the day, and Joni played there a number of times. > > She and Fred Neil, whom she > > met there, performed at a 1976 save the whales > > benefit concert in CA. > > And then there's Marlon Brando. I had no idea he was > that old - 80. I figured maybe 70. > > RIP Howard and Marlon. > > > ===== > Catherine > Toronto > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We all live so close to that line, and so far from satisfaction > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > ===== - ------- "Don't try to build an aeroplane when you just need a kite." Tee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 01:55:31 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Joni in Clinton Memoir I was among the first people to meet President Bill Clinton when he came to San Francisco earlier this week. The event was quite a spectacle. They estimate that 4000 people waited in line all along the waterfront to meet the ex-prez. I had a nice chat with him and got to witness his famous charisma firsthand. He greeted people and signed copies of his 957 page book for 5 hours straight with just one 15 minute break. He's left handed, so he shook hands with his right hand while signing with his left...all the while listening to whatever comments the star-struck book-buyers would make. Then he'd reply something like: "Thank you for saying that" or "thank you for telling me that" or "if we pull together we can win in November." I got a "Wow" and a laugh out of him, too, which thrills me to no end. I got three of my books signed. Anyway, on the ferry back to Marin from San Francisco, I took a peek at the index. Sure enough it read: "Mitchell, Joni, 73, 646" I'm about to quote what he said, so if you're going to get the book, and you don't want it spoiled for you right now, cover your ears and go "ah yaah yah nanah annanan nah nah!!!!!!" Okay, here it comes: Page 73 "Though occasionally I felt cooped up in Georgetown, most days I was happy as a clam, absorbed in my classes and my friends. However, I was also grateful for my few trips out of the cocoon. Several weeks into my first semester, I went to the Lisner Auditorium to hear Judy Collins sing. I can still see, her standing alone on the stage with her long blond hair, floor-length cotton dress, and guitar. From that day on, I was a huge Judy Collins fan. In December 1978, Hillary and I were on a brief vacation to London after the first time I was elected governor. One day as we window-shopped down King's Road in Chelsea, the loudspeaker of a store blasted out Judy's version of Joni Mitchell's "Chelsea Morning." We agreed on the spot that if we ever had a daughter we'd call her Chelsea." Page 646 (regarding a visit to Canada while president) "I also spoke to the Canadian parliament, thanking them for our economic and security partnerships and the rich cultural contributions of Canadians to American life, including Oscar Peterson, my favorite jazz pianist; singer-songwriter Joni Mitchell, who wrote "Chelsea Morning"; Yousuf Karsh, the great photographer who had become famous for his portrait of Churchill scowling after Karsh jerked the omnipresent cigar out of his hand, and who had photographed Hillary and me in less forbidding poses." That's it....you can uncover your ears now, if you want to, book-buyers. I'm enjoying the book and highly recommend it. You can order it for $18 in US scratch at buy.com. Happy Independence Day, my fellow Americans...and a great weekend to all my valued List-mates around the world. - -Julius ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 02:27:02 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: July 3 On July 3 the following articles were published: 1971: "Beautifully Blue Joni Mitchell" - Sounds (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=342 1976: "A Woman of Heart and Mind" - Toronto Star (Biography) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=580 1999: "Canada's first lady of folk gets a warm tribute in New York" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=34 1999: "It's All Joni Mitchell Onstage, but She's in the Audience" - New York Times (Review - Concert) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=33 2000: "Pop star-artist attracts thousands to gallery" - CBC News (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=668 2000: "Saskatoon stages a Canadian icon's retrospective" - Calgary Herald (Review - Art Show) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=617 2000: "Thousands converge on Saskatoon to see Joni's art" - CBC News (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=669 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #187 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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