From: les@jmdl.com (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #184 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: les@jmdl.com Errors-To: les@jmdl.com Precedence: bulk Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni Websites: http://www.jmdl.com http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, June 30 2004 Volume 2004 : Number 184 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Vuelo 605 ["mike pritchard" ] Re: JMDL CD Trees Info Help.... [Lance Michel ] good for all ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: Joni guitar and rapping ["Donna Binkley" ] The Beginning of Survival ["Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! ["amelio747" ] Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! [SCJoniGuy@aol.com] Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! [JRMCo1@aol.com] Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! [frasere@intergate.ca] Re:Seeking attendees for Jonifest [PassScribe@aol.com] Mary Grace: A Musical Tribute [JRMCo1@aol.com] Today's Library Links: June 30 [ljirvin@jmdl.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:55:51 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: Vuelo 605 Vuelo 605 There is a letter in today's El Pais about the ending, after more than 40 years, of a radio show called Vuelo 605 (Flight 605). The presenter, Angel Alvarez (accents omitted) is now 85 and has presented the show since the 1960s. The reader pays tribute to the show and its presenter for introducing him to many types of music over the years. I quote, in a free translation: "I first heard Angel Alvarez's Vuelo 605 in the spring of 1964. I was 15. It changed many things in my life, among others, to appreciate all types of music, starting with folk music and ending up with jazz. I discovered Dylan, Simon and Garfunkel, Johnny Cash. Joni Mitchell... Billie Holliday and Miles Davis. It dragged me from the grey life of Madrid to Nashville, San Francisco, Detroit, New Orleans and Liverpool where the world's best music came from. And there were many thousands more like me." Maybe Emiliano can add something about this show, which I confess I have never heard. mike in barcelona NP Lloyd Cole - The Collection ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 04:07:25 +0000 From: Lance Michel Subject: Re: JMDL CD Trees Info Help.... Howdy Folks, Hope all are doing well and having a wonderful Summer...I was wondering; does anyone know of a link to the info for the various CD Trees this list has run....I need to pass along my info to a friend who I have dubbed these for, and I cannot find my ol' info files...Thanks in advance.... Again, hope all are well... Ta... Peas...Sir Lance Nabalom I. Vitari: - -There are as many shades to reality as there are windows unto the soul- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 08:36:16 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: good for all A "good for all" public service announcement: Let your computers sleep. I heard a news report on NPR last week about the importance of letting your computers sleep when not in use. Apparently, computers use a good amount of energy, unless they are sleeping. Some people leave their computers on all day. . . and this is supposedly fine if you program it to sleep when not in use. Most computers now have the sleep function but not everybody has taken the time to set their computer to it. They said something like in a large corporation such as General Electric ( I think it was) by putting all their computers on sleep mode they were able to save about 7 million per year. . . . that the emissions from the energy used from running all of our computers is equivalent to the emissions of several million cars. . . This, I never knew. All this time I thought computers were really a good move in the right direction as far as energy conservation was concerned. . and they probably are, as long as you choose the sleep function. Pass this on and we can save energy around the world. . the government isn't leading. . .so the people must lead. If you find more information about this, pass it along to us. ~ a "good for all" announcement. (more encouragements such as these are most welcomed.) stardust golden Marianne _________________________________________________________________ From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=married ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:07:43 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Joni guitar and rapping Hey Anita, I'm late on responses, but love your stories here! I was watching the Shadows and Light DVD recently for the first time and the guitar Joni played in that looked a lot like your Blonde to me. Do we know if it could have been the same one? Thanks for sharing these and take care, love db >>> Anita Gabrielle Tedder 6/28/2004 7:55:00 AM >>> Someone off list suggested I share a couple of recent Joni related events to befall me recently - so I will. At the end of February, I had the good fortune to see rising English singer/songwriter Amy Wadge play a local venue. I thought she was a really gutsy tune smith(was described in local promo stuff as the new Joni Mitchell, but she's nothing like Joni but different and good nonetheless). I was somewhat the worse for wear for beer that night and, whilst purchasing her cd, muttered in an unfortunately slurred voice that 'If I were years younger I'd follow your tour like I did Joni Mitchell in '83.' Amy said how much she loved Joni - which was rather daft on her behalf because I came fully into contact with my Jonivangelist and began to blurt out endless tales of Joni Fest (if you haven't been - go. It'll change your life) and our purchase of the blonde guitar. Owning Joni's guitar elevated me instantly to celebrity status and I promised that I'd bring it along for Amy to play sometime. From there, Amy and I kept in touch and we seem to get along quite well. A couple of weeks ago, Amy played on a Bob Harris Presents night (he of the old UK show 'Old Grey Whistle Test') at Johnny Dankworth and Cleo Laine's venue The Stables. Amy topped the bill and, at the end of the night, we sat in the foyer playing Coyote and Hejira. Her bass player and producer, one Dave Bronze, says that Hejira is his all time favourite album and both Amy and Dave posed for photos with the guitar. Anyway, to top it all, Amy had secured the support slot (from over 250 artists) that very day for the UK tour with Jeff Beck and is currently playing all over the UK with said top guitarist. Last week the tour reached the Albert Hall in London and was sold out for both nights. What's really nice was that Amy got Steph and I a couple of complimentary tickets and even dedicated a tune to us! Anyway, it's nice to know that more big Joni devotees are currently out on tour and if they're coming your way go and see them! This only goes to show the old adage 'Have Joni guitar - will travel and get freebies!' My other news is that I have been doing quite a bit of session work recently and, as some know, been working with a rapper. I am frankly astonished at a lot of his writing and performing and thought that I must get him some Joni lyrics to peruse. He is blown away by Joni. 'Man, that Hejira is DEEP' were his exact words. Yup - quite right! Love Anita xx This message has been scanned by the E250. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:56:34 -0400 From: "Lama, Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: The Beginning of Survival amelio747 (Stephen T) said, >what does everyone think of the track-listing for "The Beginning Of Survival (please tell me there is an abbreviation for that!)???> Now Jim: Could we agree to abbreviate it "BS"? For example, people who enjoy the new compilation would post something like this: "Joni says the industry is a cesspool but it isn't true. The proof that the industry has integrity is right here in BS." Or... "You guys were wrong about BS. I've been playing it for days. I highly recommend her BS collection. For new people who want to find out what Joni's all about, introduce them to her BS." Jim L'Hommedieu Covington, KY, US It doesn't seem to "scan" well... :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:03:18 +0100 From: "amelio747" Subject: Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! >Passion Play (now with a bonus subtitle!). Ooh I'm sold! ;) > TBOS...it has not been warmly received for the most part, Stephen. First & > foremost because it's a product without an audience. Joni fans already have this > stuff, and non-Joni fans won't care. It's like the proverbial tree in the > forest - does it make a noise if no one is listening? Good point Bob, but could it really sell more badly than TLOG? Ouch! Yeah I am kinda' disappointed with all the regurgitation too but I still give her credit for not cashing in so early on. I really do think this is all a platform for her art and opinion though, I mean how many other people waited 28 years for a best of album!! NP: Blood Roses - Tori * * * * * * Stephen - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 3:16 AM Subject: Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! > **Not been on the list for a while coz I wasn't feeling too good. Hopefully > I've not been totally forgotten ;) > > Not at all, Stephen...matter of fact I made mention of you last month, > thanking you for your > contribution to the covers project (the Madeline Milla stuff) and wondering > where you had gotten to. (Go look up the digest if you think I'm pulling your > lariat or if you just want to see it). Anyway, sorry you were sick and damn > glad to see you back! > > > **but what does everyone think of > the track-listing for "The Beginning Of Survival (please tell me there is an > abbreviation for that!)??? > > TBOS...it has not been warmly received for the most part, Stephen. First & > foremost because it's a product without an audience. Joni fans already have this > stuff, and non-Joni fans won't care. It's like the proverbial tree in the > forest - does it make a noise if no one is listening? > > Which is not to say that it's all bad; who could argue with great songs like > "Magdalene Laundries, Slouching, Beat Of Black Wings & Passion Play (now with > a bonus subtitle!). Then you've got the songs that aren't bad songs but suffer > from the dated production and superfluous studio gimmickry (Impossible > Dreamer, Dog Eat Dog,) but unfortunately the bulk of it is a recap (recrap) of > Joni's worstest stuff ever: Reoccurring Dream, No Apologies, The Windfall, Fiction, > and so on. For the life of me I can't figure out why this thing exists, > especially when all the Geffen stuff just got re-released last year. At least > Dancing Clown got left out. > > The Beginning of Survival? What a pretentious title. The Beginning of > Retirement, perhaps. Or maybe "Yard Sale". Or maybe "I Guess Dylan Really IS Better" > LOL > > For someone who didn't want to paint a starry night again, man, she's been on > quite a nostalgia binge of late. But then again I guess that recycling is > consistent with her social and political content in regards to this collection. > > The track list, > > "Slouching Toward Bethlehem" > "The Beat of Black Wings" > "The Reoccuring Dream" > "Impossible Dreamer" > "The Windfall (Everything for Nothing)" > "No Apologies" > "Dog Eat Dog" > "Passion Play (The Story of Jesus and Zachius ... The Little Tax Collector)" > "The Three Great Stimulants" > "Cool Water" > "Lakota" > "Sex Kills" > "Fiction" > "Tax Free" > "The Magdalene Laundries" > "Ethiopia" > > Bob, swearing not to write about TBOS anymore...again. > > NP: Andy Partridge "Strawberry Fields Forever" (Dave Gregory actually) > > PS: I'm not sure why the new subtitle for Passion Play - maybe because not > enough people knew the Bible story? And I hope they get Zaccheus' name right on > the official product. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:30:49 EDT From: AsharaProducLLC@aol.com Subject: Jonifest 2004 Hi Everyone! Hope you are all enjoying the summer so far. Of course, if you are not signed up for Jonifest 2004, I don't know how you could possibly *completely* enjoy the summer! ;-) Just to let you all know, I am releasing the rooms that are not taken so far for Jonifest back to Full Moon today to sell if they can. I think it is only fair considering the circumstances. If you are still planning on coming and have not gotten your money in, please let Donna or myself know RIGHT AWAY so I can hold a bed for you. It's SUCH a great weekend. Don't you deserve a little Joni time with your JMDL buds? Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 13:33:47 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: speaking of dylan & F9/11 http://movies2.nytimes.com/rnr/movies/rnr_read.html?fid=.f5d2e71 &showtimes=1&trailer=1&sort=helpful While I and my fellow Canadians go to the polls tomorrow to elect a new federal government (with the frightening prospect of right-wing Conservative party forming a minority government), I was impressed with the number of my fellow citizens who packed a Super-Size-Me theatre in the Vancouver suburb of Coquitlam. And, as I'm sure is happening in theatres throughout the United States, the audience cried openly at the grief of Lila Lipscomb and the innocent Iraqi citizens whose lives have been shattered beyond repair. And, at the closing credits, we broke into enthusiastic applause. While the singer/songwriter of the 60's was writing their protest song on an American campus, it will be the film students of this generation who chart the political discourse of the second half of this decade. Michael Moore, whatever your leaning, just may be their Bob Dylan. This movie was astonishing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 20:58:53 EDT From: SCJoniGuy@aol.com Subject: Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! **Good point Bob, but could it really sell more badly than TLOG? Ouch! I think it will sell FAR worse than Tlog - I bought Tlog, but I have no intention of buying a collection of recordings I already have - why on earth would I? And I bet I'm not the only JMDL'er that owns Tlog but will not bother with TBOS. After all, Tlog was old songs, but at least it featured new recordings of them; at least there was an attempt (ill-advised & misguided and bloated as it was) at some creativity . TBOS offers *nothing* new except for mini-reproductions of some paintings. That will be a draw for some I suppose, but it's like buying a pack of baseball cards for the bubble gum. (although now that I think about it that's probably a stupid analogy as they don't put bubble gum in baseball card packs anymore, but they did when I was a kid and it was great because my friend Ray & I would buy stacks of baseball cards and I got all the gum because he had braces. And no, his Dad (Murray) didn't drive a Cadillac, he drove a White Buick.) Bob NPIMH: Ray's Dad's Buuuuuiiiick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:17:26 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! Golly. You hit the nail right on the head, Bob. And I love the baseball card analogy. I feel exactly what you're saying. 'Cept I could never stomach what they were sellin' as "gum." That crap always cracked like stale brittle upon the biting and fell apart in the most peculiar way once ya chawed it for awile. Yuck. You can have mine, too, dude. Lots of my friends call me "Ray, too, ya know? - -Julius > TBOS offers *nothing* new except for > mini-reproductions of some paintings. That will be a draw for some I > suppose, but it's like > buying a pack of baseball cards for the bubble gum. (although now that I > think > about it that's probably a stupid analogy as they don't put bubble gum in > baseball card packs anymore, but they did when I was a kid and it was great > because my friend Ray &I would buy stacks of baseball cards and I got all > the gum > because he had braces. And no, his Dad (Murray) didn't drive a Cadillac, he > drove a White Buick.) > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 19:34:18 -0700 From: frasere@intergate.ca Subject: Re: The Beginning of Survival and hi again! Quoting SCJoniGuy@aol.com: > I think it will sell FAR worse than Tlog - I bought Tlog, but I have no > intention of buying a collection of recordings I already have - why on earth > would I? And I bet I'm not the only JMDL'er that owns Tlog but will not bother with TBOS. After all, Tlog was old songs, but at least it featured new recordings of them..... I wholeheartedly agree, Bob! I am one who happens to like Travelogue, tho it doesn't get frequent rotation in my player. I even have the Geffen 4 disc set- the sound is far superior to the original, but it gets even less play. As you, I see NO reason whatsoever to purchase the new release. Who this is being marketed to, is beyond my comprehension. I have a 19 year old niece,and over the last couple of years whenever a "gift" occasion arises I have been turning her on to Joni. To date she has received and LOVES Blue, Court and Spark, For the Roses and Miles of Aisles. There is SO much more that she would be interested in- can't even imagine her liking the upcoming release. Best, Stephen in Vancouver- coming out of lurkdom PS. Welcome back Mark E. happy to see you posting again. NP: Ron Sexsmith- Retriever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 23:59:57 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:Seeking attendees for Jonifest With all the talk of a possible low turnout for this year's Jonifest, I thought I'd suggest an idea I mentioned to Ashara last year, but too late to implement: how about seeking attendees from OUTSIDE the JMDL site? I'm pretty sure a "free public-service" announcement on a station like WFUV in New York (where "Blue" placed #7 and "Court & Spark" placed #27 in "The Top 100 albums of the Century" by listeners a few years ago) could shake up a few more folks interested in the drive up to Full Moon. Of course, it's up to Ashara since it's an event that grew out of her backyard gatherings but it could help make the weekend a big success as well as introducng some possible new members to the JMDL site. Just trying to think up ways to help it along.... Kenny B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 01:20:43 EDT From: JRMCo1@aol.com Subject: Mary Grace: A Musical Tribute Hello All: I've compiled a 15 song musical tribute to MG, which I've culled from my personal live music library and a few rare and semi-rare studio gems. I want to offer it free of fee, postage paid, to any and all who make a donation - in any amount - to the Mary Grace Kunz Memorial Fund. All you need do is email me your mailing address and indicate that you have, or intend to, make a donation to this fund set up to help defray education costs for MG's kids. I'll get the disc in the mail to you expeditiously, you have my word: Send your donation to: Mary Grace Kunz Memorial Account c/o Yolo Federal Credit Union 266 W. Main ST. PO 657 Woodland, CA 95776 I've poured some of my soul into this compilation, and I hope you'll dig it and will listen in joyous memory of Mary Grace. Featured artists include the following: Aretha Franklin and the Los Angeles Community Choir Tracy Chapman Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds Marvin Gaye Frankie Beverly and Maze The Jerry Garcia Band Tuck and Patti Otis Redding Toni Childs Donnie Hathaway and Roberta Flack Sade Everything But the Girl ...And others! Even if you don't want the disc, I encourage anyone who can to give until it feels good. There's no Joan, but you guys don't need me to do your Joni for you. Do you? :-) Thanks much. Peace and Love, Julius ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 02:14:11 -0400 From: ljirvin@jmdl.com Subject: Today's Library Links: June 30 On June 30 the following articles were published: 1979: "Scared to Dance" - Sounds (Review - Album, with photographs) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=356 1999: "Tribute Concert Honours Mitchell" - Toronto Globe and Mail (Concert Preview) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=32 2000: "Joni Mitchell returns home to open art show" - Reuters/Variety (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=528 2000: "Mendel braces for media frenzy" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=746 2000: "Mitchell-mania takes hold" - Saskatoon StarPhoenix (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=533 2000: "The National" - CBC TV (News Item) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=672 2000: "Top 10 Canadian Albums Of All Time" - ChartAttack.com (Appreciation) http://www.jmdl.com/articles/view.cfm?id=1082 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2004 #184 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------- Siquomb, isn't she? 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